Think I've got proper flu and worried....

(69 Posts)
Worried345 Sat 02-Feb-13 11:41:27

In sole charge of my DCs with no help here and really worried. Been incredibly ill since 5am after a week long 'normal' virus and caring for DS1 who has been off sick from school with it all week.

Suddenly, this is a whole different calibre of virus. I can't move. I spent 3 hrs on toilet floor vomiting continually with delirium and high temperature and headache. Coughing up brown phlegm and really bad pain in chest cavity. Can't remember having anything as bad before ever. Normally just drag myself around and still able to look after DCs. Can't stop my heart racing at way above its normal speed even though I'm just sitting in bed. Can't get cool even though I had Ibuprofen at 9.30am.

AIBU to think I have proper influenza today and not just a normal virus? AIBU to be worried that there's only me here looking after DCs - aged 10 and 11 and can't actually look after them at all? DC1 still really weak from his virus all week and not eating and I'd been supporting him to drink fluids but I literally can't move right now and am soaked in sweat and feel really weird.

DC2 has the cough only so far but he has SN - mildly - and is finding it difficult that we're not doing normal routine today and is gettign cross that mum can't talk properly or get up.

AIBU to be so worried that I'm THIS ill and the DCs and I have no one at all to come in and help? Is it just that I'm feverish and so unwell that I'm panicking?

Anyone who can offer reassurance and tell me to stop being a weakling, pull myself together and get on with it - or are my symptoms going to get worse and I should be trying to get some help in for all of us? But there's no one I know of who would be willing to come into a house full of sick people.

noblegiraffe Sat 02-Feb-13 11:44:32

You need to see a doctor ASAP.

delilahlilah Sat 02-Feb-13 11:44:57

I would think you need paracetamol instead of / alongside your ibuprofen?
Settle the DCs with a DVD and tell them what food and drink they can have, then get some sleep. Sleep will help you fight it, they are old enough for you to have a nap.

Hope you feel better soon. Is there anyone who can at least drop off some proper cold and flu medication for you?

delilahlilah Sat 02-Feb-13 11:45:50

Call NHS direct for advice?

FREEHULLYxxDeepRedBetty Sat 02-Feb-13 11:45:56

There must be someone, even if they're a long way away. You sound really rough.

My mum once drove three hours to look after me when I was really sick. Now that I'm a mum myself I know I'd do it too, and for my sisters and bestest friends.

Wishfulmakeupping Sat 02-Feb-13 11:46:30

Call the out of hours doctor out or nhs direct.
Hope you are all feeling better soon.
Do you have any friends or neighbours nearby that could pop some medication over to you? Or some food?

noblegiraffe Sat 02-Feb-13 11:47:06

My worry would be that it's not flu but pneumonia.

RooneyMara Sat 02-Feb-13 11:52:53

You need to get a Dr out to you. Insist they come out. You can't possibly get to them and you sound very ill.

please try and get someone to come out.

RooneyMara Sat 02-Feb-13 11:53:49

You may have to be admitted to hospital if you have pneumonia. Is there anyone you can warn that will come and take care of the children? Family etc.

lisad123everybodydancenow Sat 02-Feb-13 11:54:55

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I would consider getting to hospital, as noblegiraffe has said, it does sound like it could be pneumonia.

BeaWheesht Sat 02-Feb-13 11:57:00

Sounds to me like you've had a fluey bug and its now turned to a bacterial infection which will need treatment.

Get yourself seen ASAP

AnyFucker Sat 02-Feb-13 11:58:44

Coughing up brown secretions is not a sign of influenza, it is more likely a sign of pneumonia (possibly as a consequence of the flu)

Call the out of hours doctor

Altinkum Sat 02-Feb-13 12:00:06

If you had flu you wouldn't be able to post on MN.

Id ask for Dr to come and check you out.

fusspot66 Sat 02-Feb-13 12:00:11

I think you should call out of hours gp and think hard of anyone, you could ask for help . Perhaps a neighbor with older children who won't be scared of germs. The kindness of strangers can be amazing. But you need to take care of you to do your mothering .

RooneyMara Sat 02-Feb-13 12:00:42

Altinkum, that's not true. She is probably posting on her phone.

Cherriesarelovely Sat 02-Feb-13 12:01:24

Call nhs direct, you sound extremely ill. Or take yourself to hospital asap.

AnyFucker Sat 02-Feb-13 12:02:08

Altinkum has a point though

OP should be using what energy she has to summon RL advice/help in the form of a doctor and/or someone in RL to come around and assist her

RooneyMara Sat 02-Feb-13 12:02:14

OP also, not to alarm you but I'm sure you have talked the boys through what to do if you pass out? ie call 999 etc.

Just in case. But please do get seen. if you can dial your normal surgery number they might well put you straight through to OOH - ours does automatically when it's shut. Do you need us to find you any numbers etc?

WandaDoff Sat 02-Feb-13 12:02:39

Where are you? If you are near me I'd happy look after your boys.

RatherBeOnThePiste Sat 02-Feb-13 12:03:06

agree with the Out of Hours doc.

Whereabouts are you?

skullcandy Sat 02-Feb-13 12:03:21

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Altinkum Sat 02-Feb-13 12:05:08

My point still stands, I'm currently in bed with double pneumonia!

I am posting from my phone, I've had flu, you can't Ben lift your head, never mind post on a website.

You still need to get checked out OP.

Fakebook Sat 02-Feb-13 12:13:41

Did you namechange just to post this? grin it's really fiddly to nc on a phone isn't it? Takes a lot of time...and you need to focus more because you change the settings to desktop and the writing goes all small and unclear.

Get well soon. Call a doctor...or ambulance.

AbbyCat Sat 02-Feb-13 12:16:47

Agree you sound ill. But surely a 10 and 11 year old (even if slightly poorly) don't need much looking after? I was at home with flu this week with DS 1.10 who had flu and 3mo dd and we managed. If you can't cope with older kids ten you must be really very ill?!!

redwellybluewelly Sat 02-Feb-13 12:31:49

Os this going to repeat the format of a thtead a while back where the OP had flu but was told by many she couldn't possibly have flu and post on a website.

Get well soon OP and see if you can call in support. Peopleihjt be unwilling yo enter a house of sickness but that doesnt stop them bringing food for your dc or drugs for you!

RooneyMara Sat 02-Feb-13 13:24:43

Fakebook, that's not very subtle.

I think we need to give the benefit of the doubt - after all what does it cost us to tell her what she should do, it's not like she's asking us to send her anything etc.

Or pretending to have a sick baby/no money/

I mean if y ou are concerned about advising a flu troll then don't post.

Altinkum Sat 02-Feb-13 13:29:25

We are concerned hence why all in this thread have said she needs medical assistance.

Just because we don't agree that its flu, does not mean that we are not concerned, far from it!!!

Altinkum Sat 02-Feb-13 13:31:08

Oh and you can disagree without jumping in a bloody idiotic "troll" mindset.

How are you OP, donny have a partner, mum, sis, neighbour, school friend that can't help you out?

RooneyMara Sat 02-Feb-13 13:34:11

I don't understand what you mean Altinkum but I'll assume you're not calling me bloody idiotic.

farewellfarewell Sat 02-Feb-13 13:35:17

OP it doesn't sound like flu to me (not a doc!!) but it does sound terrible. I think there is no question that you need to see a doctor today. Explain that you cannot go to see them, you are too ill and have no help with children. Your poor ds, it sounds like a really tough situation to be in, Lots of sympathy from here.
I hope you get seen soon.

Fakebook Sat 02-Feb-13 13:44:13

Rooney, altinkum not calling you an idiot. She's saying that the trolling mindset is idiotic. Which it is.

RooneyMara Sat 02-Feb-13 13:45:50

thanks fakebook - I appreciate that. And sorry if I was harsh before.

crashdoll Sat 02-Feb-13 13:48:39

You cannot diagnose flu over the internet, even if you have all the medical qualifications in the world.

OP, please phone OOH. Whatever it is, you need a medical professional to see you.

Jinsei Sat 02-Feb-13 13:49:05

I think you need to see a doctor OP. There must be someone you could call to help you.

Altinkum Sat 02-Feb-13 14:08:09

No I'm not calling you a idiot Rooney.

Just saying that we can disagree, without someone sprouting anyone a troll. That's what I did idiotic.just because we differ in opinions.

Altinkum Sat 02-Feb-13 14:08:54

Bloody iPhone autocorrect. I call

RooneyMara Sat 02-Feb-13 14:12:31

thanks for explaining smile

Montybojangles Sat 02-Feb-13 14:52:58

It sounds like it may be pneumonia and you need a doctor.

Worried345 Sat 02-Feb-13 15:50:45

Appreciate all advice and sorry not to get back sooner but felt too ill. I'm in bed with a laptop BTW and name changed today as I'm embarassed about having no RL back up support.

I'm now waiting for out of hrs doctor service to call me back. No way can I get out of house today to see anyone but I expect this is what they'd suggest. GP surgery and out of hrs is an unusually long way from where we now live as we were allowed to keep original GP practice when we moved house.

DS1 is just not complying with any self care - like drinking or weeing. On the one hand this might be a good sign that he's feeling better enough himself to be difficult. On the other hand, I'm worried that he should be keeping up fluid intake at the least, after a week not really eating and fairly ill himself - though nothing like what I've got.

DC2 looking after self better but is not coping emotionally v well with the change in routine.

If being able to type on my laptop means I don't have proper flu, then that's a good thing and I hope it's the case. I'm less worried now about having flu than having pneumonia.

I did an AIBU post this morning as I'm rather scared as I'm never this ill and wanted some outside feedback as only have the DCs here to communicate with. All feels really surreal probably cos I've got a high temperature.

Thanks for all contributions today and will post again once I've spoken with out of hrs service.

MadHairDay Sat 02-Feb-13 15:58:48

Hope you feel better soon, OP. The brown phlegm may at least suggest a chest infection, possibly pneumonia but possibly not. Either way, it's horrible to feel so ill and have to look after dcs - been there too many times. However, they are older so to a certain extent can get on with it - hope ds complies soon and feels better. Let us know what the doctor says, keep your fluids up if you can keep anything down.

Montybojangles Sat 02-Feb-13 16:01:00

Glad you have called gp, green or brownish sputum can be a sign of a full on chest infection, so best to get it checked out, especially with a high temp and other symptoms. Sorry there's no one nearby to help you with the DCs. Hope your feeling better soon.

Montybojangles Sat 02-Feb-13 16:01:58

Xpost with mad hair day.

mrsbunnylove Sat 02-Feb-13 16:13:02

keep explaining things to your dcs. even though i wouldn't recommend that children of that age look after themselves 'for fun', they are perfectly capable of looking after themselves and you, in this situation.

you may or may not be a troll. someone accused me óf 'sockpuppeting' a few days ago, just because i changed my name. the cheek of it!

manicbmc Sat 02-Feb-13 16:16:46

Sounds like a nasty chest infection, rather than flu.

I couldn't even stand to look at the tv when I had flu because it hurt to look at anything that bright.

Hope you're feeling better soon.

farewellfarewell Sat 02-Feb-13 16:19:19

Poor you, checking in to see how you are. Don't worry too much about the children you need to take care of yourself.

TattyDevine Sat 02-Feb-13 18:37:15

You can post on mumsnet when you have flu or pneumonia. I had swine flu which became pneumonia, with pluericy (how the chuff do you spell that anyway) and posted on mumsnet from time to time.

If you are well enough to call the NHS direct, you are well enough to post on mumsnet. Its called "asking for help" and takes various guises. Sometimes mumsnet may provide more quick help than the NHS direct when you are looking for perspective or advice or experiences from people who have done it.

Anyway, you may well have full flu, or pneumonia, or a bad bronchitis, and yes it is very hard to care for children in that state - mine went on for a while and a relapsed too after I thought it was gone - this was a couple of years ago - not pleasant, and my husband was in Copenhaagen for some of it, and there was one time I had to pick my children up from school and I clipped the curb a couple of times, and was wearing 2 cardigans, 2 coats, gloves and a hat I was so cold with fever (I'd get shivery and then the sweltering bit would kick in a couple of hours later and I'd get the shakes)

Tres pleasant it was.

The upside is since then I've never moaned about having a simple head cold since!

Hoping a speedy recovery for the OP

TattyDevine Sat 02-Feb-13 18:39:32

By the way I would urge you to get seen - if you have a bacterial infection, antibiotics will help no end. If you call NHS direct they might be able to get you an appointment at out of hours. Failing that a walk in first thing tomorrow; it will be painful, you might have to wear 6 layers of clothing and haul your kids there but it will be worth it. Once they had finally worked out which antibiotiic was good for my particular bacterial infection (Doxycycline!) I was feeling better within 2 days and was cured within 2 weeks (albeit with scar tissue and stuff but I won't bore you with that)

Worried345 Sun 03-Feb-13 08:26:56

Just updating from yesterday. managed to do the three hour marathon trip to out of hrs doctors - had booked in for 6pm but not seen till 7.30pm - with disgruntled children in tow.

Was diagnosed with influenza AND pneumonia! Got prescription for antibiotics and then had to drive to open pharmacy. It was freezing cold by then and I was shaking like mad and feeling extremely sick and ill. DS1 was being completely horrible to me the entire time we were out. I expect he hates the fact that I can't be his regular slave and he refused to believe I was really ill.

Was sick again when got home. But not vomited since and now had 2 of the antibiotics. So far too weak to get out of bed today and the domestic tasks are piling up. DCs are completely hopeless and do nothing at all to help in the house. DC2 however, is apparently trying to unstack the dishwasher and then restack. No surfaces in kitchen currently free and just piled with mess.

Must get their laundry done today - school uniforms - but will have to tell them what to do to do this themselves. Planning to send them out to a local shop for very basic food.

Realising that although they're not that young, they completely rely on my to run their lives and do every single thing, including finding clean clothes for them and even running them a bath.

Hope I start to feel well enough shortly to potter around. Got to drive them to school tomorrow or send them in a taxi.Can't afford to be off work for long as I'm self employed and we're solely reliant on my income.

Still feeling lousy but hope antibiotics start to help soon.

Thanks for all support yesterday.

Bunbaker Sun 03-Feb-13 08:32:26

I hope the antibiotics kick in soon. Take care of yourself. thanks

Abra1d Sun 03-Feb-13 08:50:22

'Agree you sound ill. But surely a 10 and 11 year old (even if slightly poorly) don't need much looking after? I was at home with flu this week with DS 1.10 who had flu and 3mo dd and we managed'

I doubt you had flu; probably another virus! You would not be looking after two babies if you had temperatures of up to 104 or 105, plus rigors, plus severely aching limbs, headache, etc.

stickyj Sun 03-Feb-13 09:05:52

Hi, don't out yourself but if you're near West Mids, I can help a bit. Hope you feel better soon x

Buzzardbird Sun 03-Feb-13 09:06:43

So the gp is wrong then?

DoingTheBestICan Sun 03-Feb-13 09:18:25

If you're in north Wales I can wash your dcs school uniform for you,we both had the flu over Christmas and it was awful,my dh went on to have blood clots on his lungs and was hospitalised with it before being diagnosed with pneumonia.

You need plenty of rest and don't forget to drink lots of water.

Montybojangles Sun 03-Feb-13 09:20:53

Glad your on the right treatment, hope it kicks in soon. As sticky says if you are happy to tell us your rough location maybe one of us can come with some supplies and show your DCs how to use the washing machine. Get well soon.

thornrose Sun 03-Feb-13 09:25:43

Worried - I just want to say I totally understand your ds reaction. I have a dd 13 with AS, when I am ill she just cannot cope (I'm a lone parent).
She is used to me being at her beck and call and is actually really horrible to me when I am ill. I've realised it can be a bit of fear and anxiety too. It's a bit scary seeing your parent ill and can make children insecure.
Also dd responds to another family member ringing and having a chat and asking her to " look after your mum" type of stuff, it works better coming from someone else.

maddening Sun 03-Feb-13 09:29:58

Can you call an emergency childcare service? You can get emergency nannys who might help with some light domestic work too.

I love how people think they know better than a gp.

Did you know that around 20% of people are thought to have contracted h1n1 (the swine flu variant) during the first year of the pandemic in the UK. Flu can massively vary intensity depending on the variety and the person. The 'it can't be flu if you can lift your head' is a fallacy.

And why the ridiculous troll hunting?

Hope you feel better op.

Buzzardbird Sun 03-Feb-13 09:39:16

Exactly badkitten

McNewPants2013 Sun 03-Feb-13 09:41:50

Get well soon op.

Don't worry to much about the housework, you will catch up.

Except abra1d was referencing another poster who may or may not have had flu and wasn't actually questioning the ops diagnosis. Sorry abra1d blush.

However I still stand by my comments about flu.

ll31 Sun 03-Feb-13 09:51:44

Think once you're better, you should consider teaching kids how to do more to look after themselves also. hope your feeling lot better today

BeaWheesht Sun 03-Feb-13 09:52:23

Oh I am so sick of hearing the 'if you had flu you wouldn't be able to do x'.

We had confirmed swine flu a few years ago - we had to keep going because we had a newborn and a 3 year old .

Mia4 Sun 03-Feb-13 10:12:35

Whether you've had flu or not, the brown gunk and chest pain sounds like an secondary infection which you'll need antibiotics to shift. But the good thing s if it is an infection rather then a virus then antibiotics will help and you hopefully feel some measure of relief within a few days.

Try not to panic, speak to the doctors- your sons may need antibiotics too if they have an infection too. Do you have anyone near to you that you can call to help? A friend? Their father? Family?

Also dose yourself up on vitamin C and zinc, manuka or local honey and echinachae. Hope you feel better soon.

ike1 Sun 03-Feb-13 11:21:02

Poor you op. That is really crap love. I was in your situ myself 2 years ago. I felt so ill i couldnt actually get to the docs and it took weeks to get better. I had some unsympathetic responses later and it made me feel very depressed. Get a fucking life you twats trying to troll hunt... the OP is ill ffs have some empathy!

ike1 Sun 03-Feb-13 11:24:03

Fortunately my kids could go to their dads...but he literally did not give a shit if I was alive or dead. I didnt see anyone for days....I understood totally how someone could pass away and not be found....and I live in a lose knit community...keep posting OP. There are plenty of us here who do understand.

Dawndonna Sun 03-Feb-13 11:24:10

Hope you start feeling better soon.

mercibucket Sun 03-Feb-13 11:36:39

get well soon op

do you have any phone numbers for people who could do the school run for you?

take it easy

also find the flu deniers annoying. i had flu, pneumonia and pleurisy and still managed to move my fingers. couldn't speak as not enough oxygen, but fingers still worked. bummer as 999 doesn't work by text message (or does it?)

Abra1d Sun 03-Feb-13 11:39:37

Just to be clear, I was not referring to the OP! She does sound very ill indeed.

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