To hate hate hate having tiny boobs(157 Posts)
highly padded bra my chest is completely flat - like a bloke. I am relatively small framed but I hate my lack of boobs sooo much. My friends always go on about how 'lucky' I am because big boobs are painful/annoying etc but in reality I would be delighted to have C or even B cups which I don't imagine to be hard to live with!
AIBU to hate having small boobs? I hate that I live in 'Abracadabra Bras', hate that I can't wear a bikini because I look ridiculous. I don't know anyone else as flat as me!
its not unreasonable to have feelings.
Sympathies. Maybe you could work that gamine/ingenue Audrey Hepburn look - she had no boobs but looked fabulous in a bikini. ?
I have 36J's - so the other end of the scale from you
I tend to work the comedy barmaid look
YABU. Your body is healthy, does not have cancer, is not paralysed, does not have a million other problems (at least I hope not). Even tiny boobs work for their designed function, feeding a baby.
to hate a healthy body is to be ungrateful for it. Speak to someone with a real health problem (or even someone badly scarred) and then think about what you just said.
Well, I have ballerina boobs and I'm very fond of them.
They are perfect for running, I can get clothes to fit and they produced gallons of breast milk when I needed them to.
What's an 'Abracadabra' bra?
Its not unreasonable to feel the way you do.
But its not unreasonable for your friends to think you are lucky, because when you have big boobs and find them uncomfortable, its very very difficult to imagine why anyone wouldn't want to be flat chested, be able to wear pretty bras, not be in pain etc.
However, if your friends comments upset you, and they know that the comments upset you, then it is very unreasonable of them to voice those comments, regardless of what they actually think.
I've always been an A cup and, when I was younger, pined for bigger boobs.
They barely grew - even when pregnant.
The advantage is that they have never sagged and look quite good on my ancient frame.
All good things come in small packages
I have smallish boobs but I quite like them, would look a bit odd if they were bigger tbh-small boobs always stay where they start off fortunately whereas the larger variety, at some point, have to give in to gravity.
All the pretty undies come in small sizes, not always the case if you have bazookas or so my large breasted mate informs me.
Meglet I love the phrase "ballerina boobs".
I agree with Laurie about working a look. It feels terribly unfair when you live in a society that seems to value enormous boobs but if you're slim all over then you can get away with tiny t-shirts and like shift dresses - there is a world of lovely clothes out there for the slim, petite woman. I also think confidence is a big thing - if you think you look lovely, then other people will too. And not every man is mad about huge breasts, despite the impression one might get from the media.
well i am < zero bust size, my fella said it was major attraction to him (thou will not tell you why>cos its rude!)unfortunately.
YABU about because they are normal and healthy.
However YANBU because it can be a bit of a nasty shock to new boyfriends when you eventually take the padded bra off....
No YANBU I hate having small boobs and it's worse on me because I'm a big person and my belly is bigger than my boobs. What I hate the most though is friends regularly laughing in a 'jokey' way about the fact I have no boobs. It's not funny.
Mine are an A cup, and most of the time I'm happy enough. Bizarrely, one of the times I'm not ok with them is when my DP says that he thinks they're amazing. I always say something like, "oh but they're so small/not enough of them/you like bigger ones". He says to me:-
"There are nice big ones and horrible big ones. There are nice small ones and horrible small ones. You definitely have brilliant small ones and I'd never change them".
YANBU to feel the way you do. But try and look on the positive aspects of small boobs rather than the negatives. Small boobs might not 'fill' a bikini as well as larger ones but I bet there's loads of beach sports you can do that I couldn't as a result. You also won't get that awful sweat rash underneath them. That's two positives right there!
I would love small boobs, but sometimes I just have to tell myself to be grateful for the healthy body I do have, even if certain aspects are not to my liking.
Specialsubject - chill out! I think the OP can dislike her small chest if she likes without being piously reminded to be grateful for a working body!
If it's any comfort OP I lived for many years with massive boobs (34 HH) and I hated them and I paid 8 grand for a brilliant plastic surgeon to reduce them - and I love my new small breasts.
Big breasts are not all they are cracked up to be I can tell you.
I know how you feel- I thought mine had grown as I went up to a b cup, but then I lost some weight (needed to as was very overweight for my height at 5 foot 1 and 11!!! stone) and they are now tiny again. On the plus side, I have lost two stone so will happily sacrifice bigger boobs for that I guess.
I can't wear the pretty undies I am reliant on my Abracadabra Bras which whilst amazing are very plain (they are from asda and make you look 2 cup sizes bigger whilst being surprisingly light/ comfortable. I won't wear anything that doesn't have massive amounts of padding! My mum saw some of my bras and asked how I even fit my boobs in them, to which I replied easily as I have none
Haha yes many men have been shocked when they have taken off the padded bra... the ones who I took it off for that is
Of course I am lucky to be healthy and the last thing I want is to offend someone who isn't. I guess I have some pretty major self esteem issues- I've already had a nose job and trying to remind myself of the positives of small boobs!
I don't really think that society does value enormous boobs. They are perhaps popular with trashy magazines aimed at a certain type of young man, but boobs are non existent in the world of fashion. You'll never see a model with boobs for example. And many high street clothes just aren't cut with anything but small boobs in mind. And large boobs are often associated with being overweight.
That should say 'wrongly associated with being overweight'
andubelieved you have to reveal what the rude thing is!
I have humungous knockers which I can't stand, op so I know what it's like to hate your boobs. I think a B/C cup seems ideal.
1980s Outspan advert: 'Small ones are more juicy'
Not all the big ones out there are originals.
If you had bigger boobs you'd probably find another body part to hate. What do you like about your body?
Strangely enough, I always thought I would have a boob job if I come into some money.
But I tried on a very padded "booster" bra and hated my silhouette. After that I was much happier with my body shape.
If i could donate you some of my boobage i would. Mine are a d/e, and i hate it. I want b/c.
andubelievedthat i wanna know what the rude thing is too
I have AA and used to hate them but now I like it. I managed to exclusively breast feed both my dc so they are at least fit for purpose. Dh has never shown the slightest concern, neither have ex boyfriends. On my last office, a couple of the women in my team would come up to me in the loos and look at my boobs enviously saying they wish theirs were the same (they both were DD cup). I've come to terms with it and am more than fine with it - hope you manage to as well OP - very possible!
Agree that the boobs splashed over the media are pretty unhelpful, but try not to dwell on it.
Yes, the OP should be grateful for a healthy body and so on, and there are people paralysed, but it doesn't stop her hating having very small boobs. Life doesn't work like that.
And all this bollocks about being able to wear pretty clothes etc, is just that - bollocks. When you are very flat chested, you cannot wear the normal pretty tops that others take for granted. They gape. The show ribs and collarbone instead of flesh.
The OP is not talking about being petite or small-breasted. She is talking about being flat chested. It's different.
No, YABNU to feel the way you do. A happy medium is always best.
I've always been pretty big for my build - usually Im a 32E - and its not great (back ache, dresses never fit me) but at 35 weeks pg I'm already in my old nursing bras which are whopping 34H. Hate it :-( God knows what size bras I'll be forced to fork out for when my milk comes in. And after breadtfeeding DS for 12 months and planning to again for DB when he/she arrives, my pair will eventually look like a couple of naan breads stapled to my chest.
I'm thankful I have a healthy body but hate my boobs. I'm allowed to, and so are you, I hate it when people spout 'you should be grateful because you are healthy etc' but theres always somebody worse off no matter how bad you got it, doesn't mean no one should complain or air their negative feelings!
I went from a small B cup at 19 to a EE in pregnancy, boobs went huge, then shrunk after pregnancy.
This happened 4 times.
Now I have small boobs in the very stretchmarked skin of big boobs ... you can imagine how awful that looks
Yes I am flat chested, and struggle to find clothes I feel comfotable wearing. I am due to be a bridesmaid at my sister's wedding soon and the other bridesmaids each having boobs bigger than E cup, I am going to feel so unattractive stood next to them. I would love to feel more feminine. I'm too scared to get a boob job, after my nose job I was very poorly so I wouldn't take that risk again.
Also after I had my ds, I was unable to breast feed him as he wasn't gaining weight ad the midwives told me to formula feed, rationally I know this won't have been because of the size of my boobs but for a while I certainly felt as if it was a factor.
YANBU. I'm fairly flat chested and have never wanted them bigger, they would only sag more when I'm old
your feelings are your feelings.
BUT, YABU to think it matters. I think your thinking is faulty which is how you got to your unpleasant feelings. It irritates me hugely that women invest so much of their self-esteem in their bra size. I don't want to blame anyone, but it is a wrong wrong wrong situation, however we got to it.
I'm about average & always wanted to be flat-chested. Seems brilliant to me. What's not to like? If a bloke didn't like it then sod him, I don't fancy blokes that work like that, anyway.
I think you should try to wean yourself off the super-dooper bras. I have some but wear them just for work/going out. Some clothes are obviously just designed and cut for C or D cups, the most common sizes, so they can seem a little gape-y.
Anyway, get yourself some comfy unwired bras for around the house with very little padding. No one will see you, you'll be comfortable and most importantly you'll stop "seeing" these big norks all day and then feeling disappointed when you take your bra off and look at yourself in the nud.
Ironically my failure to bf both times has been because of my size (38G). There was no way that anyone could think of for me to bf that wasn't lying on my side. Great for bedtimes but highly impractical for 75% of the time.
I hate hate hate my breasts. I would give anything for a flat chest.
I am small chested.. A cup.
I don't often wear a bra unless I am wearing a lower cut top then I wear my miracle bra.
I used to really be bothered by it, It made me feel like I wasn't as womanly and I spent a lot of years wanting a boob job.
Now I don't care as much. If I could take a tablet and get bigger boobs I would be all over it but I have learnt to live happily with it and concentrate on my good bits!
Plus, mine are a great shape and five children later they are still perky.
If your tits are anything out of the ordinary you will hate them. Fact. I have a slim back and slimmish frame but my tits are 10inches bigger than my ribs. 30jj. They are awful.
But. I mostly cope ok, dress carefully and look as unmatronly as possible in the circumstances. YANBU - tits which feel unattractive are not great.
BTW, what size do you wear? You might be wearing wrong size - lots are - and a change of fit might look better (or the number might make you feel better if nothing else!)
Aha, a boob thread <flexes fingers>
Alwaysasking Have you read this
very, very long thread about small boobs?
Loads of great advice and help about buying to correct bra to maximise what you have/haven't got.
I'm large of chest but look much smaller due to great bras. My size 8 niece is pretty much flat chested. Honestly, she has tiny bumps. She was measured recently as a 28DD. Just saying...
greenpostit A true AA cup is very, very rare as it means that your under bust and across bust measurements are exactly the same. The thread above has got some examples of people thinking they're a 34AA when actually they're a 28D!
At the risk of being a complete bra bore:
Measure under your bust (hold the tape tight) to get your band measurement. Do not add on any inches to this measurement. Then measure across the fullest part of your bust. Each 1" of difference between the two measurements equals a cup size. So, lets say you measure 30" underneath and 35" across? That would give you a starting point of 30DD.
Usually you should take the across bust measurement whilst wearing your best fitting bra (preferably an unpadded one although slight padding shouldnt make too much of a difference). If you think that your bras are fitting so badly that you'll get a distorted measurement, then measure without a bra, but lean forward so that your boobs are hanging towards the floor (attractive!). The cup size is always harder to get right by measuring than the band size.
Testing the band and cup
To test the band size, put the bra (in this example a 30 back) on back to front on the loosest hooks. If you can breathe but if feels tight and you can only fit two fingers underneath the wire at the front, then that's the correct back size for you. If it's so tight it's unbearable then go up a size.
The cup will differ much more between brands and styles than the back. Turn the bra round the correct way, lean forward then take your right hand and put it inside your left cup. Reach right round under your armpit/towards your back and scoop all the backfat/escapage forward in to the cup of the bra. Repeat at the other side.
Then put the shoulder straps up and adjust as necessary (not too tight as it's the back that should be doing most of the supporting work). If for example, you've started with a 30D, you will probably find that after scooping, you have some bulging over the cup and four-boobage going on! This means you need to go up one or more cup sizes. Keep going up through the cup sizes until all your breast tissue is firmly in place.
Stolen from HazelNutt:
Bra myths and D+ denial
There are thousands of women who should be wearing 32 back or smaller and a D+ cup or bigger but:
They went to M&S for fitting
They haven't seen anything smaller than a 32 back in the shops
Have read that [insert a really slim big-boobed celebrity] wears a 36DD and therefore cannot imagine they could need a smaller back/bigger cup (the celebrity in question is of course in a wildly wrong size as well).
So the next time a tiny woman claims to be a 34 bra, you know what to do..
And finally There is no such thing as an AA, or a D cup!
AlwaysAsking clothes shopping is a nightmare isn't it? You have my sympathy. When I was shopping with my sister for a dress to wear at her wedding I ended up in tears of frustration. She wanted me in a strapless number and I just couldn't keep them up. It was awful. I ended up with a shift dress
which admittedly did look nice
Oh hello Sorrel! Knew you'd pop along!
It's usually a three way race between me, StatisticallyChallenged and HazelNut to see who gets here first!
I was a 34A before I got pregnant, ballooned to a prow-of-ship-like 36B when bf-ing ahem before deflating to a pathetic and soft 36AA (if even) after weaning. I'm not impressed by them I admit, but I think that both now and as I get older there are lots of advantages to being flat - you can wear practically anything, bikinis still look great (and you can wear the REALLY weeny Miss Selfridges ones if your bum is up to it!), you probably couldn't look slutty if you tried and as you get older there's pretty much nothing to droop.
Try Wacoal Petite bras on figleaves. They come in weeny sizes and look remarkably good, esp. the Petite Push Up Bra, which is really nice on.
However these women most emphatically do not "look tiny" to me, and I suspect the OP!
NotYouNaanBread See above. Bet you a kitkat that you're probably not an AA unless your above and under bust measurements are exactly the same?
*ArielThePiraticalMermaidFri 01-Feb-13 18:34:43
However these women most emphatically do not "look tiny" to me, and I suspect the OP!*
Point taken but I bet those pictures still aren't what many people thinkg a DD looks like.
Oh sorrel, I have been thinking about your last bra thread recently! I need to get a new bra and keep thinking about your suggestions. My 'true size' according to you makes me want to weep though
That attempt at making everything bold went really well.
You need to keep it all in one paragraph <knowledgeable>
Well, I bet you look lovely. Neater bosoms are a gift for the most feminine of qualities, elegance, chic, etc. Plus one ages brilliantly.
I have cartoon knockers - stopped buses etc - and people rant with envy - but honestly, the only person who's ever really enjoyed them is Mr Cory, the fat tabby who likes a nap on the cleavage when I am on the Kindle. You know, being liked for your boobs can be a bit creepy. Altho I dont have to bother much with make-up (no one ever looks up that far).
I am 6 feet tall and my underbust is 38 inches. There is no way I am in denial about needing a small back measurement . I am a gigantic person!
Overbust 39 inches. Even if you say this doesn't make me AA, an A cup bra swamps me.
YANBU I hate my usual (non pregnant) boobs! They don't exist.
Right now I'm a D cup and its fantastic but I've been warned they'll flatten back to an A cup after breast feeding .
I've had CBT and counselling and still hate them. And as for the healthy body comments - I don't have that either. I'm blind and have long term health issues and if I could fix one thing it would be my boobs. Simply because my confidence is amazing now my boobs exist, before pregnancy I felt horrible most days.
Everyone is entitled to like/dislike whatever they choose about their own body.
A tit thread just what I need.
I'm on a hunt for my sister she needs bras but we can't find any that fit she measures 26.5" back and 30" breast, she is using 32C ATM because m&s said that was her size (I wish they're give up measuring women, I'm sure they're the reason most women are wearing the wrong size)
Can any one link me to somewhere that sells small sizes, and not too expensive please.
Haha I'll agree with the comment about not being able to look slutty! That is impossible with a flat chest in my experience!
I'm going to look into shift dresses. The thing is while I'm relatively small, I'm not skinny enough for the Audrey Hepburn look! I'm a size 10 on top, luckily I have curvy hips. I have one other flat chested friend but she's a size 6 and dark so looks beautiful whereas I look out of proportion
I'm really flat - I mostly go braless tbh - and I mostly find it very convenient. It was fab for bf as I could do it with baby in a sling while walking around etc.
I wear an AA or A cup when I wear a bra - thank you for that link and info, Sorrel, I had v little idea - and it never ever fills it out. With clothes on you can see two little bumps and that's it.
The time I've felt saddest about it was when I had to return a really lovely and bargainous dress I'd ordered because it gaped. But I don't think my breasts in themselves are particularly unaesthetic (or particularly aesthetic tbh). They juat are. I couldn't imagine hanging my confidence on them.
YANBU to want larger boobs - I sometimes fancy straight hair rather than my crop of unmanageable curls, or wish I were taller - but I do think YABU to hate a part of your body.
I'm an AA - 30 inch ribs and just under 31 inch bust. I like it, but I'm short and scrawny (despite largish ribcage) so big ones might look out of proportion. It all depends on the individual. And we can wear any tops we like. Excepr shirts, which never bloody fit.
I really detest my boobs. I can't really believe I'm admitting this but mine are 2 cup sizes different. At least.
But there's nothing I can do about it. So I kind of just brazen it out and hope that no-one is paying close enough attention to me to notice it!!
Me too I'm 5'10 a size 12/14 and am an A cup it's shite I'm completely out of proportion
Oh and when I was pg and put on 3 stone they didn't grow or change at all and then bf was a massive disaster so now even more annoyed with their inadequateness
YANBU but I think small boobs often look better out of a bra as they retain their shape (even when the bra is padded).
You might be adding an inch outwards but others raise theirs a couple inches!
I have small boobs and hate the phrase 'no boobs'. I think it can make small chested women feel worse.
i LOVE having small boobs, one of the main reasons i am on a diet as they are the first to go flat
sorrell - great post! I used to wear 36DD and how wrong was I? I am actually 32G! Great fitting underwear makes you feel and look good whatever your size. I don't care how 'big' that sounds - it's what I look and feel like that matters.
Really sad to hear that so many people on here 'hate' their breasts though. Whatever your size you are unique and should look after and love your body. You only get one body to live in so don't waste your life hating it!
And for those who say that us large breasted ones can't find gorgeous underwear - wrong! Figleaves. Bravissimo (my personal fave) etc are full of lovely things for larger breasts.
greenpostit Going on those measurements (I'm assuming you held the tape tight for the under bust measurement and loose for the across bust measurement), I'd say 38A (possibly even a 36B if the band rides up).
An A cup in too big a band will swamp you which is why I think you may need a slightly smaller band.
Callycat On those measurements (30 and 31) I'd try you in a 30A.
JustFoldingStars One of my favourite brands Ewa Michalak makes bras with removable pads to help with symmetry.
I used to have issues with my micro boobs (not small, flat chested- there's a diference!) when I was aged 17-20 (mid 90s, height of Pamela Anderson/loaded/jo guest etc) but I turned 21 and thought bugger it, this is it, get used to it, I'm healthy and I'm not having an pointless operation. Wouldn't go braless though, I don't like having my nips obviously out!
Sorrel after your sizing advice I am on a campaign to get all the women I know wearing the correct size, I've come up against a problem though where can I find bras for a 26back 30 cup? All help would be appreciated
Another convert .
OK, for measurements 26/30 you really need a 26D. Some Polish manufacturers (Ewa Michalak again amongst others) will custom make bras in a 26 band. However, I find that some brands do come up really small in the back (Bravissimo and EM for example) so a 28 might be ok.
Thanks sorrel, I will have a look, if I can find some my sister will be very happy, my mother keeps taking her to the kids bras, not good for a 21 year old.
I have dreadful boobs. I am a freak! I am 5ft10in and quite curvy but have no tits whatsoever. I measure 40in under bust and have an a cup. But because aim broad my boobs are far apart. I have been told there are no bras to fit me by every fitter I have tried. I am often in tears in lingerie depts. dh can't buy me sexy undies, nothing matches or fits right. And now to top it off I am bfing, but only from one side (left is broken!). so I have a dd right boob and an a left. So now I am looking forward to one fried egg and one sock with a satsuma in the bottom
Wouldn't go braless though, I don't like having my nips obviously out!
This! One of the drawbacks of having microboobs is that nips are much more of a visible feature
MrsKoala I am sooooo angry on your behalf. No decent fitter should ever say anything so insensitive (and untrue!).
If you want to, post (or PM) your actual measurements (usiung the guidance above) and I'm sure that I can't suggest something that might work for you, then SC or HN will be along shortly <sounds boob klazon>
This was me. 32aa, they simply never grew. I was a big teenager and then lost the weight quite drastically, but "fried eggs" on the women on my dad's side, combined with "pear shaped" on my mum's led to me getting the worst of both worlds. I used to cry everytime I had to shop for bras as I always ended up in the teenage range, although after a load of my comedy bras got stolen off the washing line (mortifying) I found Little Women who at least helped me feel a bit more adult, even if I didn't fit the matching pants.
What happened? Sisters, I betrayed you and had them done 5 years ago. Not big, I'd grown up a small busted woman and remained one, going for a 32c (against the surgeons advice who said women always wished they'd gone bigger). But after testing, as advised, with little bags of rice in a bra in my preferred size, big norks made me look fat and besides I wore a suit, not a bikini, most days. Post-baby (and half-expected bf disaster) I'm 32e which is at the top end of what I'd like. When I've completed my family ill have them done again, I'd always planned to and since they're the dodgy PIP ones they will definitely need replacing.
Yabvvvu you can have my 32ff any day f I can have yours
Where do people find bras with smaller back sizes and larger cups though because I find most shops stock the 32 + M&S style sizes
I hate hate hate having melons.
they bounce when i walk, they give me black eyes if I run ;-) and i hate people looking south when they talk to me!
Take mine, OP, please!!
Well atm my measurements are skewed because one the one bfing boob. I am wearing a nursing bra which is the comfiest I have ever been. It's stretchy in xl and I think you can convert it to a normal bra too. It's not very sexy tho!
Oh please will someone take some of my boobs? Am 23 weeks pg and running out of bra sizes already. And it's not even practical for bf!! Am dreading the first 6 weeks of agony bc nipple too big to fit newborn mouth ouch! DH said it looked like the millennium falcon docking into a Death Star with DS1. Not amused.
frillyflower - I disagree. None of us is perfect, but the 'I hate my....' thing should be grown out of by about 15.
just seems really juvenile, and I don't think this is a kiddy site.
Bravissimo, BraStop, Figleaves all stock 30 backs. Ebay is often a good place to find unusual sizes.
Sorrel Hi again! Thanks for your suggestion. That size doesn't fit, though, whereas AA fits like a dream. We have had this chat before, on another thread ;)
I had very small boobs until I had children.
I am now a 32 DD; this isn't exactly huge but I would love, love to have my old small boobs back.
I hate having to wear a bra, although I am hugely thankful that my boobs are very perky & past 40, still pass the pencil test.
I am determined to get down to 8 stone something, in the hope that my boobs will go.
(I'll probably just get sunken cheekbones)
Well i was a 70"s punk rock chick and as soon as the "Patti Smith album and specifically the cover was being plastered in every record shop window cos she was hailed as the mother of "punk /attitude" i purchased a (2nd hand!) white shirt!>> album covers ,/record shops , a flat chested girls saviour !
I have 38F, i fecking hate them, so annoying, heavy and hard to get into nice tops.
Callycat Ah yes, it's coming back to me now
Just out of
pure stubbornness interest, did you try a 28A? That would be the same cup volume as a 30AA.
Hi Sorrel! I could try, but to be honest I've found that AA is really comfortable, so I don't
Hi Sorrel! I could try, but to be honest I've found that AA is really comfortable, so I don't feed the need to change.
Your advice has clearly helped lots of other ladies, so I don't mean to dismiss it! But I have never had trouble finding bra's to fit.
I got the feeling OP was unhappy with what she saw in the mirror, rather than the number on her bra. I just wanted to try to reassure her
Op I'm sure there must be a way to change your thinking. There is nowt wrong with being flat or bouncy.
I recently had an op on my hideously ugly feet. Funny enough they are now just as ugly (permanently misshapen) and have massive scars but I don't mind getting them out now because it's the doctors fault their are grim and not mine!
IMO it has nothing to do with how you actually look but that you feel your boobs imply something about you. Perhaps you find a group of equally flat ladies so you get used to feeling normal not unfeminine?
Oh absolutely Callycat. Hey, comfort is so important IMHO (although I often sacrifice it for a bit of uplift!).
Sorry OP - didn't intend to hijack .
I'm small boobed and very happy. Strangely so because I'm always looking for something about myself to hate! I'm 47 and they still look pretty good. They suit my style and if I wear any kind of padded bra I don't like the way clothes hang on me.
I can't imagine running or doing any exercise with big tits, it must be a bit of a nightmare.
I hope you learn to love them OP.
OP sorry to put a downer on this thread but I have spent the day with my friend who is having chemo for breast cancer. Stand in front of the mirror, look at your boobs and rejoice that they are healthy.
Special subject then we will have to agree to disagree. I think people can hate things or love things at any age. It's not childish or adult - it's just what it is. You have a weird attitude in my opinion.
Sorry for the long link.
I think when I stop bf, I'm going get a really great bod like this (no need for boobs)
I can't imagine running or doing any exercise with big tits
Tis a very serious undertaking involving much underwiring and yards of heavy duty lycra
OP, have to disagree about the being unable to 'look slutty' with small boobs- anyone can look slutty, prefer sultry myself which can also be achieved whatever your shape
autumn . Your poor friend.
"I'm about average & always wanted to be flat-chested. Seems brilliant to me. What's not to like?"
a) Being out of proportion
b) Clothes don't fit properly - they gape or sag emptily in the boob area.
c) Being called skinny all the time (I'm not skinny I'm slim) just because I don't have any boobs
d) Not able to wear low cut tops
e) Looking crap in a bikini
f) I look like a boy if I don't wear a bra.
I have always wanted to have another inch or two in the boob area, but haven't let it ruin my life. At 54 I'm as perky as I was 40 years ago, and I managed to successfully BF DD for 6 months.
Thanks to Sorrel's advice I am now wearing 32B instead of 34A bras. They haven't made any difference to my silhouette, but I feel good wearing a B.
Why are women so big these days? Are they overweight? Is it the growth hormones used in meat production?
and i hate people looking south when they talk to me!
And they think they're being subtle. So annoying
OP, I'm a 34 G, and would love a B or C cup too. I'm looking into a reduction once I'm finished with breastfeeding my second child. YANBU at all.
I am at peace with my 32a pair! Went up to a 38G when early bf and it was painful!
Mine are obv quite saggy after and dh offered to pay for a boob job cause I was v unhappy for a while but I don't care anymore. I run a lot and they don't get in the way, I'm small framed 6-8 so I would probably look odd any bigger.
Autumn - that does put things into persepctive somewhat
iloveeverton TBH if you're a small framed 6-8 then you almost certainly need a smaller band. I'm a very stocky 10/12 and wear a 30 band (G cup mind you!).
BunBaler - Why are women so big these days?
I don't think they're that much bigger. It's more to do with years and years of people wearing the wrong size e.g. 38B instead of a 30D.
is that you kiera knightley?
I have a friend who is flat chested, totally flat. She wears a padded bra most of the time and looks great cos she is thin. Once at a dinner she wore a fantastic dress that plunged in a sharp v at the front down almost to her navel and was scooped at the back to her bum. She looked sensational. No tits but men's eyes were out on stalks. Lesson: it isn't how much you have, it is how you present it.
Blog entry about lingerie for small boobs Here
I disagree a bit there fallen angel (although your friend sounds gorgeous). If you have small boobs and are slim/gamine/petite/athletic all over then it suits. But what if like me you are curvy (not fat) with broad hips and shoulders, fleshy thighs and arms - you look completely out of proportion. I have had people ask why I have such small boobs when the rest of me is clearly rounded so I look so odd without them. I could never wear strappy, halter, backless tops because my arms are so fleshy, no matter how many bean can reps I do!
Great blog. Thanks Sorrel. The links to the others were very useful as well
even if some of them are in Polish God bless Google translate
Yanbu because that's how you feel.
But...take a look at the Hollywood actresses around,Kate Hudson,Keira Knightley,Carey Mulligan etc. They don't have large boobs. Nor did the supremely beautiful and stylish Audrey Hepburn.
I think smaller boobs look better in clothes,more elegant. And also,great in bikinis too.
I don't have big boobs per se but they look big on me because I have a narrow frame. I hate them.
Wish I had some of your problem! I have large ones. Finding t shirts, dresses and tops that don't make me look matronly are a challenge. Really.
Enjoy your freedom to wear anything you like.
I misread this and thought you were complaining about tiny books, which I quite like.
I'm sorry you don't like your own body. I don't know if that is U or not, but perhaps consider ways to work on liking yourself more?
While I don't blame you for wanting bigger boobs (I am an E cup and I cannot imagine what it would be like to be flat-chested, horrible I imagine) I do think you have the better part of the deal compared to someone generally fat and dumpy like me. You can wear very good padded bras or get a boob job to end up with the perfect figure, whereas there is nothing at all I can do to disguise the fact that I have short, unattractive legs and a low-slung fat arse.
Also as I have got older my boobs have stopped looking like glamorous traffic stoppers and started looking like unappealing wobbly udders that just age me and make me look frumpy and dumpy if I cover them or blousey and muttony if I flaunt them.
I think it's all about proportion though. The most important thing is too look reasonably in proportion. I find it hard to listen to really slim people complaining about this - it's part of the deal of being slim! If you want my tits and my hourglass shape you have to take my fat thighs and fat arse as well. They are part of the package.
I feel exactly the same. I don't think the 'at least your healthy' comments are particularly helpful, can't help the way we feel. I do agree that maybe we need to work on our perspectives, however.
I did read that other thread though and after re measuring I have gone from a 32 a/b (depending on the shop) to a 30 b/c.. It's a pain though as high street stores, ones I can afford anyway, don't tend to go smaller than a 32 back.
Meh. It does annoy me somewhat when someone starts a thread like this, asking for empathy, and people come on saying "You have it easy. Try having big boobs" etc. It's not top trumps! The OP was moaning about being flat chested, not having small boobs. I don't think anyone with average to large boobs can imagine that, to be honest. In so many societies, a curvy shape (forget the models etc) is associated with femininity and sexiness and fertility. I have had people imply that it's no wonder I can't get pregnant, given that I have such a boyish shape (which I don't entirely actually - I have quite a curvy pair of hips. They're just narrow). To which people say "Oh what about the models and people in magazines? They give out the wrong message" Yes, but how many blokes have you heard say things like"Oh Kelly Brook - now there's a proper woman!" etc, as though you need extra assets besides the possession of certain chromosomes to be an actual woman. And the comments such as "Eat a pie!" get more than a little irritating - as if you can put on bust size through eating a pie!
Besides the whole point of this thread is that is isn't a skinny minnie moaning thread. There are women on here who have categorically stated they are not slim - they're have wide shoulders, hips, big arms and legs etc, just hardly any boobs. It's very different. And as an aside, I wouldn't go on a fat thread and say "Count yourself lucky - at least being fat means you have decent boobage."
I have always hated being completely flat-chested but have now learned to accept myself as I am.At the age of 47 I now only wear a padded bra to give me a shape when I am going outside the house to shops,school,socialising,walking etc-otherwise I never wear one indoors and its soo comfortable.Love the freedom of it now actually.
Learn to accept it OP...there are lots of us about and it has its advantages.
oh,Arielthepiraticalmermaid, so you have decided what the whole point of this thread is? bloody glad you popped up then, i was confused and looking for a bit of guidance re the point of this thread,ta 4 your imput.and you may wish to know ,you can ,although as you say you do not, go on a "fat thread" and say as u feel, it is a forum ,as in, all welcome.take what u want and leave the rest.
Don't worry ariel - it made no sense whatsoever so I think you can ignore it.
I agree with you, Ariel - when I was 14 I was sometimes mistaken for a boy, which wasn't very nice. Though really I wouldn't have minded that much - it's more to do with the attitude of other people giving you "advice" about how you could make your boobs bigger, look more feminine etc. It's very hard to feel happy and confident in yourself when other people are telling you that you ought to feel unhappy with the way you are.
I am a f cup and I love my breast, just don't like the price tag of the bras.
I always think of supermodels when thinking of small busts fwiw, or as someone else mentioned Audrey Hepburn
Big breasts are actually quite annoying. I hate bras with an absolute passion and would love to be able to get away with not wearing one but it will never happen unless I get a reduction. I've been stuck with at least DDs since I was 12, i'm now FF through three pgs and bfing, its no fun. They do give me upper back pain, also no fun. I have to hold them when I run.
All in all I personally think smaller breasts are better and never understood the desire for big breasts (even women that are a C cup but want to go up more). But then a lot of us want something we weren't born with- I'd quite like thinner hair for example but a thin haired person might long for thick hair. Its (sadly) the way it is.
My grandmother has small breasts. 7 children, all EBF. No sagging and she looks wonderful wearing dresses.
My friend has big breasts. 1 child, FF. Her boobs are sagging and she describes them as pancakes now.
I am glad I have mine small :D
"I think it's all about proportion though. The most important thing is too look reasonably in proportion. I find it hard to listen to really slim people complaining about this - it's part of the deal of being slim! If you want my tits and my hourglass shape you have to take my fat thighs and fat arse as well. They are part of the package."
And I am slim with fat thighs and backside. I just want bigger boobs just to look and feel balanced. I can't wear shift dresses, for example. To get one to fit over my hips it would sag emptily over my boobs.
YANBU I think, purely because sometimes no matter how healthy and perfect our bodies are, we are still unhappy with some aspect.
I doubt there's a woman alive that wouldn't take a magic wand fix for something if it was offered.
Well, I have one big boob and one small boob so the best / worst of both worlds
<glares at DD as boobs were evenly sized before BF>
Don't worry. I never noticed
though will obviously be checking out your boobs from now on when I see you. As you will mine I expect given the way this thread has run. Sometimes it's very unfortunate to meet actual Mumsnetters
Sorrel, THANK YOU for the links above. I have no bloody idea what bra size I am, I just buy bras that don't hurt. Am going to unearth a tape measure and find out for real!
You're very welcome. Post your measurements on here (if you want) and we can suggest some sizes.
You fibber Ariel I saw you checking out my puppies.
Hmm, maybe Mumsnetters should stay on Mumsnet!
agree with sorrel. I look totally flat chested but I am a 30B
I have learnt to accept my skinny/petite/flat chested
unwomanly shape and gave up pining for tits when I was a teen and realised it was never going to happen. I dont buy deep v tops/dresses as the total lack of cleavage is unflattering but I feel confident in everything else.
Post your measurements on here
Hahahahahahahahaaaaah!!! I appreciate your kind offer, but ... !
. Oh dear, I forget that most
sensible people are slightly averse to posting their vital statistics.
... I just can't risk well-meaning posters suggesting diets, Sorrel!
I would love small boobs. Mine are DD cup and always have been. I can't run properly, I can't wear a shirt, I can't wear a halter neck or a vest. I envy your tiny boobs!
I used to like my 30f boobs but my 32 gg is just too big I can not get things to fit me and have to wear v neck tops all the time
I hate the rest of my body too
It may seem rubbish now, but I bet you'll be glad of it once you're old and everyone else's are hanging around their knee's from being big for so many years!!!
PS in no way meaning that to be horrible to big breasted people - just realised how that came out!! I will be joining the knee-boob associations in old age if that makes it any better haha!
No diet comments from this quarter! My boobs are always super sized no matter what size I can currently squeeze my wide hips into!
I can't find the last thread I commented on where you worked out my size Sorrel Can you help me again? My one and only bra has died today so I've taken it as a sign to buy a Sorrel-approved one
I measured 36.5" under my bust and 45" over. What do I do with that half inch measurement, round up or down?!
Ok, try a 36FF and a 36G. I think a 38 is going to be too big as most people who measure I between sizes uausally end up sizing down.
Ok, thank you so much Sorrel! I have actually lost weight since I last posted anyway, and am deliriously happy you just suggested a G. I haven't been a G for years!
I bet you'll be glad of it once you're old
Actually, yeah I was still slim and small of tit at 45. Other women kept telling me I should make the most of my chest perkiness while I still had it, as I'd find myself drooping post 40. As you can imagine, I felt quietly smug!
Sadly, I now resemble a precarious pile of barely-set jellies.
It seems a shame that if you want to have a bit of a whinge about your body you are told to be grateful that you are healthy. Of course I'm sure the OP is very grateful that she is healthy but that doesn't mean she can't have a bit of a moan from time to time?
I have tiny boobs too. I hate them because:
When I was younger my mum and other family members took the piss out of me for having small boobs, calling me a boy and making me feel really self conscious.
The media seems to imply that unless you have large boobs you are unattractive.
When I was breastfeeding I would get loads of comments about how they couldn't hold enough milk, how my daughter would need a bottle to top her up, how I only got pregnant so I could have some boobs
Clothes don't fit, they just hang. Necklines are made to make the most of cleavages, strappy tops are hung too low, blouses are baggy at the front, etc.
I wear padded bras all the time and am lucky enough to have a dh who loves me for who I am and who has never once made a disparaging comment about my boobs.
I'm happy with them the way they are now. I wear padded bras because otherwise clothes don't fit but if I could buy clothes for small breasted women then I would and I could then buy cheaper bras.
Well Rhubarb we may not agree about catshit, but we certainly agree about this
It's the clothes thing that pisses me off most I think.
How are your cats? Shat in any more gardens lately?
The clothes thing is a pain in the arse. They look lovely until I try them on and if I get a size smaller than the arms are too short. I end up having to adjust most of my clothes. In fact I give a lot of my stuff to my 12yr old dd now, the tops all fit her.
I did get some of those chicken fillet things once. One of them fell out and got trodden on by a girl with high heels. I didn't have the heart to tell her she had one of my boobs stuck to her heel! I whipped the other out and just accepted that I was destined to have small boobs and that was that.
Oh and by the way, small boobs do look just as bad when you get older. I used to look after elderly people and <whispers> they just become little envelope flaps. I would say that the bigger boobed old ladies actually came off better.
I have lanky gorilla arms and massive hands too <sighs> My extra twiggy wrists always stick out the end of sleeves.
Roaring at your chicken fillet tale. I had some of those - I bought them from MaxCleavage.com which actually sounds like a porn site, and I found particularly in hot weather them to be very uncomfortable. They made my boobs sweat and itch, and then I got a scaly rash. So attractive. Now I have a good bra from M&S called 2 sizes bigger. Seen that?
PS my cats never shit in gardens, as well you know!
YABU because I'd swap you in a heartbeat for my heavy 34 F/G's
patience I suppose I will never know the discomfort of having large boobs and I can think of nothing worse than your body actually causing you pain like that. I suppose our scars are more psychological because people/strangers assume it's ok to make disparaging comments to us, to ask if we have a penis or are lesbians, to question our suitability to breastfeed our children and to make us feel unsexy, unwomanly, unattractive and unappealing.
It's just another way in which women are made to feel less worthy.
People say all that to you??!!
I hope you don't let 'em get away with it! Rude fuckers!
Better natural boobs is what I think; big or small, but not implanted with crap. Any size is better.
I think as a smaller-boobed woman, you'll always look neat and well put together. It's not as easy when you have enormous boobs.
"Clothes don't fit, they just hang. Necklines are made to make the most of cleavages, strappy tops are hung too low, blouses are baggy at the front, etc.
I wear padded bras all the time and am lucky enough to have a dh who loves me for who I am and who has never once made a disparaging comment about my boobs. I'm happy with them the way they are now. I wear padded bras because otherwise clothes don't fit but if I could buy clothes for small breasted women then I would and I could then buy cheaper bras."
Yes, yes yes to all of the above. My biggest gripe is that so many tops are too low cut for me to wear unless I wear a T-shirt/vest top underneath.
"Oh and by the way, small boobs do look just as bad when you get older."
Mine don't. I breastfed DD for 6 months and mine are the same as they were when I was 22 - I'm 54 now.
Yes, yes yes to all of the above. My biggest gripe is that so many tops are too low cut for me to wear unless I wear a T-shirt/vest top underneath.
But I find that too, and I am the cleavage queen. Most of them look positively obscene unless I put a camisole underneath. I can get away with it for glamorous evening wear for a big night like a ball, but anything less dressy than that it just seems inappropriate and wrong, and attention-seeking. Even for very glam occasions I still need to close the gap a bit with a safety pin, lest I look like I wish to swallow men whole down the front of my dress.
Who can actually wear these things? I think if you have an average or smaller sized chest it's probably easier actually. People don't stare quite so much.
Clothes dont fit anyone. Fact. I expect to alter anything off the peg to fit me. If it's too advanced for me or something expensive I take it to a tailor. My life changed when I stopped expecting clothes to fit straight off the hanger.
Rhubarb that's awful People are vile about women's bodies regardless of how they look I've found.
I do appreciate that it's equally difficult for women with no or small breasts as it is for women with huge breasts, we're both at different ends of the same spectrum I feel.
No, YANBU. I feel the same. Actually, I have no problem with how my boobs look as they are now, if they could be taken in isolation, but it's that proportion thing that everyone else has mentioned. I'd be happy with being this flat chested (which is what I am - with no padded bra on I look totally boyish) IF I was also slim (like I was back in my teens/early 20s, and yet I wasn't happy with how my boobs looked then ) but now I'm a sz14 in bottoms, sz12 in tops, and in profile my belly sticks out further than my boobs! Clothes in my size (correct back width, etc) don't fit because I can't fill them up in front... Plus my belly isn't huge but it looks far bigger because I'm not in proportion.
I am pretty happy with my small "b's" tbh. No complaints from DH either (that he has mentioned).
Got bras and swimwear sorted from max cleavage webite for when I want some more volume!
My general view is that it's easier to make small breasts look bigger but virtually impossible to do the reverse.
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