To think a friend shouldn 't give a sip of beer to get ds 8?

(52 Posts)
FedupofTurkey Fri 01-Feb-13 14:18:35

I was :0 at it. She said a bit won't harm, they do in france! Isn't she setting up problems for the future?

Yes after the sip he will become reliant and by 9 he will be sitting a bench with a Stella in a brown bag.

He will be swapping his packed lunch for minitures at the dodgy corner shop.

Joiningthegang Fri 01-Feb-13 14:20:25

No she isnt
Yab very u

What harm could it possibly do?
What is your reasoning?

Trazzletoes Fri 01-Feb-13 14:20:38

It's not illegal if she's at home. Did she force him to drink it? IME children think alcohol tastes foul anyway.

MsHighwater Fri 01-Feb-13 14:21:54

Her DS or yours? A sip of beer is hardly likely to set him on the path to alcoholism (on its own).
As long as she isn't forcing it on him or letting him drink significant quantities of it, I see no real problem.

Bottleoffish Fri 01-Feb-13 14:22:27

Talk about an over reaction, what harm can one sip do? Do you think he'll get a taste for it? hmm

ZipItShrimpy Fri 01-Feb-13 14:22:51

I sometimes let my 7yo DS have a swig of beer. It really won't set him up to be the local alcoholic swigging Veno's from a brown paper bag in 10 years. hmm

UC Fri 01-Feb-13 14:23:40

Yes, YABU. Don't be silly. It's a sip.

My dad used to let me have the odd sip of wine or beer when I was a kid. Am 41 now and so far am not a raging alcoholic.

She is right, it is very common in some countries in Europe and I think that probably the UK has worse stats on binge drinking than these other countries who seem to be a bit more sensible with the way they deal with alcohol.

wineandroses Fri 01-Feb-13 14:25:35

YANBU, alcohol is for adults not children. The odd sip may not do him any harm, but he may like the taste and feel free to help himself to adults' drinks (dregs - yuck) when at parties etc. I think it is stupid to give small children alcohol, why would you?

StickEmWithThePointyEnd Fri 01-Feb-13 14:26:14

My mum used to buy boxes of wine with a tap. My sister and I used to lie underneath the tap and drink the wine when mum wasn't around/looking. We never had a lot because it was horrible but it was a game we played regularly.

We also used to be allowed sips of dad's beer.

As adults I don't drink alcohol ever and have never been drunk. My sister drinks at parties but never at any other time. So yabu.

we have given both ds's sips of beer, wine etc.

ds1 is 17 and rarely drinks, ds2 is 11 just pulls a 'disgusting' face

you think letting a child have sip of something they invariably will think is gross is just storing up trouble for the future?

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JiltedJohnsJulie Fri 01-Feb-13 14:28:18

Both of mine have tried wine. Both hate it. Really can't see what your problem is,

docket Fri 01-Feb-13 14:29:35

You are joking, surely?!

Andro Fri 01-Feb-13 14:30:29

I think having a 'you will not drink in this house until you are 18' policy does far more harm than an odd sip of wine/beer under parental supervision.

spiritedaway Fri 01-Feb-13 14:31:03

I think it probably depends on the manner it was done. . If it was all "look at him, just like his Dad! He'll be down the pub soon," then could unintentionally make the kids feel that is the way ahead to be accepted as a big man. If it was, it's not for kids and a glass would be bad for you, but if you want a taste go ahead, then YABU

feetheart Fri 01-Feb-13 14:34:17

My DS (7) has had a sip of DH's beer once or twice and a sip of wine on occasion, as has DD (now 9) - each time they thought it was horrible.
DH and I don't drink much (have wine about once every few months, beer or cider a few times a month) and have very real experience of alcoholism in our immediate family. We have the view that taking any mystery out of alcohol is a Good Thing so that it isn't seen as some special, magic, forbidden, grown-up rite of passage.

If this was how your friend was treating it then YABU, if she was forcing it on him then that's another matter.

Minty82 Fri 01-Feb-13 14:35:17

We used to have 'water wine' (ie very heavily diluted) at family dinners on special occasions from very young, and certainly were allowed to taste the odd sip of beer. I can see why, if you were teetotal yourself, you might have a problem with the idea of normalising alcohol for children, but if not it seems entirely sensible to present it as something to be enjoyed responsibly and in moderation, rather than making it into a taboo.

LegoAcupuncture Fri 01-Feb-13 14:35:58

Have you alerted the authorities to this? You simply must!

Bluemonkeyspots Fri 01-Feb-13 14:37:55

My parents were always fairly relaxed with alcohol.

We were never given nips of spirits but could have wine/beer/cider from a young age.

My siblings and I all like a drink but rarely are drunk rolling around the place, even as teens there was no need for us to rebel againsed our parents and we knew as long as we were sensible we would not get into trouble for drinking.

KenLeeeeeee Fri 01-Feb-13 14:38:46

My 8yo ds had about a centimetre deep bit of champagne at New Year. He spat it out, declared it disgusting and said I must be a loon to enjoy drinking that. grin

YABU. We have such a silly attitude to alcohol in this country. No wonder there's such a problem with binge drinking when we act like booze is some mystical concoction.

Whydobabiescry Fri 01-Feb-13 14:39:40

Sorry but YABU I allow my DS (8) to take a sip of beer or wine and every time without fail he pulls a face and says how disgusting it is - mind you he does that with coke as well! I think that you can create more problems by treating alcohol as something exotic and forbidden whereas if your children see you drinking responsibly and allow them a little taste the magic allure isn't there. I was always allowed and I loved to scoop the froth off my dads pint of Guinness as a child but I can't stand the stuff and hardy drink as an adult.

PoshCat Fri 01-Feb-13 14:40:24

OP, you're having a laugh with us, surely???

NymphadoraTonks Fri 01-Feb-13 14:42:09

ahahahaha

Oh my.

SoldeInvierno Fri 01-Feb-13 14:43:53

YABU. I was always allowed a bit of beer or wine at home at that age with weekend meal. I grew up abroad and that was considered absolutely normal. So, when I was 18 I felt no desire to go and get absolutely legless just because I could. I think waiting until children are 18 to introduce them to alcohol is a big mistake and only promotes binge drinking.

Funny replies here.
I'm sure when I was about 4-5 I was sucking the froth off my dads beers?
It used to be our treat if my dad was having a beer.
Had to take in turns with my sister.
And yes, we are both full blown alcoholics today!

DragonMamma Fri 01-Feb-13 14:46:30

YABVU

My DD is 5 and has had a sip and thinks it's absolutely foul. They are hardly likely to feel that lovely heady feeling after the first glass on a Friday and start selling themselves for a bottle of 20/20

manicbmc Fri 01-Feb-13 14:50:55

Has anyone called SS yet? hmm

I am reliably informed that I got tipsy at a Greek wedding when I was 2 (and nicking people's champagne).

I was allowed sips of beer, wine and sherry (at Christmas) as I was growing up. By about 13 I was also allowed a small glass of wine with my dinner, though we rarely had wine anyway.

I'm 43. My liver is in good order and I'm not a raging alcoholic.

And thankyou for reminding me to put wine in the fridge for later. grin

GirlOutNumbered Fri 01-Feb-13 14:56:15

YABU

Trazzletoes Fri 01-Feb-13 14:58:18

Just out of interest, OP, at what age do you think it would appropriate?

OldBeanbagz Fri 01-Feb-13 15:06:57

Was it your DS or hers? If yours then she really shouldn't have done it without asking your permission?

If it's her DS then i'd have no problems. My children (11 & 8) have both had odd sips of wine/beer but it's always met with a look of disgust. I don't think i'm setting them up for a lifetime of alcohol abuse.

I on the other hand, grew up in a house with a strict no alcohol policy and boy did rebel against this in my late teens!

usualsuspect Fri 01-Feb-13 15:11:39

Call the police

BackforGood Fri 01-Feb-13 15:13:23

a sip ? really... a sip ?

Scholes34 Fri 01-Feb-13 15:20:33

You should give some serious thought to CAMRA membership for him.

Pagwatch Fri 01-Feb-13 15:23:23

No. She isn't .
Yabu

Did you not see the other 30 posts saying no, it will not set up problems and yes, you are being unreasonable?

SomeKindOfDeliciousBiscuit Fri 01-Feb-13 15:27:03

Legally you can give a child some alcohol at home from five years old. I assume they mean sips, but YABU.

was this her child or yours?

Booyhoo Fri 01-Feb-13 15:34:16

what problems do you think she is setting up OP?

my dsis and i were both allowed to have a sip of my mum's wine around that age. i thought it was vile and have never touched any wine since. dsis liked it and would have the odd sip now and again however chose to be tee total aged 18 when she saw how some of her friends reacted to alcohol. neither of us have experienced any problems as a result of having wine at that age.

Fenton Fri 01-Feb-13 15:58:56

I'd be surprised if an eight year old would actually like beer and develop a serious taste for it.

I wouldn't be shocked or alarmed.

DS1 has always had a bit of a taste for Pinot Grigio, - he used to toddle over and drop his dummy in my glass, I thought it was an accident the first time it happened grin

He is eight now and he's still only on one glass a day, so it can't be that bad.

LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance Fri 01-Feb-13 16:02:45

If it was Stella YABU
If it was Watneys Red Barrel, YADNBU

In this, as in all areas of parenting, it's important to establish good habits from the off.

InNeedOfBrandy Fri 01-Feb-13 16:03:06

Where have you gone OP, thinking of a new spoon to mix somewhere else?

MrsWolowitzerables Fri 01-Feb-13 16:12:42

YABU.

What harm can it do? I remember being small and my dad letting me have a sip of his whiskey. Apparently I said in a husky voice "oooooooh thats nice".

I also used to be allowed sips of wine as a child or a bottle of alcopop from about 15 yo.

Now I don't drink very often and I really respect my parents for not making alcohol a big issue or a taboo. When I started going out clubbing (is it still called that)? it wasn't a novelty to drink and I never ended up wasted and puking in the toilets and mostly drove anyway as I wasn't that fussed about drinking.

sheepflower Fri 01-Feb-13 16:14:30

YABU. It's a sip. Nothing will happen!

OneMoreChap Fri 01-Feb-13 16:18:01

YABU

I was allowed watered wine or beer as a youngster.
I preferred Coke.

If alcohol is available and drunk with meals, and you don't make it special, it's much less rebellious to drink it.

I remember going to one lads house and he said, "there's some beer left from a party, shall we drink it?" I thought, there's beer in our frdige, and i don't like taht, so said "No".

katiecubs Fri 01-Feb-13 16:19:34

OP you are crackers

ZipItShrimpy Fri 01-Feb-13 16:48:47

Fenton grin

tattoosarenotallowed Fri 01-Feb-13 16:50:51

My gran used to dip my brother's dummy in her vodka and bitter lemon. Hasn't done him any harm that I can see.

TheYamiOfYawn Fri 01-Feb-13 16:55:13

My mother is French, and I was given watered-down wine with food regularly from when I was 5 or so. I would have a glass of undiluted wine from around 14. By that point, I liked nice wine and didn't associate it with getting drunk, so had no desire to get hammered on cheap nasty drinks in my teens. I have continued to drink less than my friends (but very good quality) ever since.

FunnysInLaJardin Fri 01-Feb-13 16:56:04

YABU. You would have been totes shock at me as once when camping I dipped my finger into my wine and my baby DS2 aged about 17 months tasted it. He then reached out to drink the whole glass as he so liked the taste. I have learned not to do that again grin

Mind you both DC now recoil at any suggestion that they might like a sip of beer, so obv not scarred for life

extracrunchy Fri 01-Feb-13 17:00:53

A sip?! For god's sake OP... YANBU YABRidiculous!!

JiltedJohnsJulie Fri 01-Feb-13 17:06:10

Do you think the OP is coming back?

mrsbunnylove Sat 02-Feb-13 20:46:34

harmless, i think. i gave mine alcohol, dosed her with the stuff. she hasn't shown any sign of being over-attached to alcohol yet.

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