....to ask the smokers

(58 Posts)
HoHoHoNoYouDont Wed 30-Jan-13 23:41:34

...who enjoy smoking if a part of you really wants to give it up? If you do then what in your opinion do you think could really help you succeed?

Reaa Wed 30-Jan-13 23:45:37

A full time nanny then I won't get stressed with the kids and won't need to smoke. What about you?

WorraLiberty Wed 30-Jan-13 23:46:55

Only one thing made me succeed and that was the wonderful E.Cig.

Best invention ever imo

Seeing someone close to you with six months to live, in so much pain, dying aged 46 leaving a 14 year old son, a 21 year old daughter and a baby grandson who won't remember him.

Sorry. You did ask sad

HollyBerryBush Wed 30-Jan-13 23:48:38

Nothing. It is an addictive drug. Only a nonsmoker would ask such a question. It would be like taking heroin away from an addict.

I wish I'd never started, but give up? Unlikely.

5madthings Wed 30-Jan-13 23:48:51

I like smoking, I would like to stop and only have about five a day. No idea what would help, I would stop if I got pregnant again...

Can't they just invent a non harmful non smelly cigarette?!!

manicbmc Wed 30-Jan-13 23:53:14

What 5mad said

HoHoHoNoYouDont Wed 30-Jan-13 23:53:43

I don't smoke. I was having a conversation with some of my colleagues today. One said she no longer enjoyed smoking but needed too, she couldn't give up. The other said she loved smoking but knew she had to give it up and that she just didn't know how she was going to do it because she enjoys it so much.

McNewPants2013 Wed 30-Jan-13 23:54:58

I have tried everything.

Champix, e-cigs, patches, inhalers, gum, mint, spray, cold turkey, stop smoking wales, helplines and internet support groups.

I have failed so many times, I am just a weak and pathetic that i can not stop smoking for good.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Wed 30-Jan-13 23:55:32

Do you enjoy it though Holly or do you just feel it's an addiction now?

McNewPants2013 Wed 30-Jan-13 23:57:33

If people ask me in RL if i enjoy smoking, i say yes because when you say no you get all the 'helpful' tips to give up.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Wed 30-Jan-13 23:58:41

tallwivglasses that's so sad. A close friend also gave up when she saw her grandma die the same way. Although she does occasionally have a sly drag when she's been drinking.

pinkstinks Wed 30-Jan-13 23:59:29

I quit on new years day and have only had two rollies since... So far its ok. Going to the pub was when.I cracked. I miss the routine.of.Cig breaks at work.too.and the social aspect. But.I like not.smelling of fags. I.never wanted to quit and never tried, but something clicked and I didn't want to be defined by smoking iyswim. Hth.

Tigerbomb Thu 31-Jan-13 00:01:50

Heart attacks, asthma, Champix, patches, ecigs, gum, spray, cold turkey - nothing has stopped me smoking longer then three months

I give up every day and fail miserably

I love and loathe smoking at the same time.

I agree with 5 mad - cant they invent a cigarette that's basically the same (taste etc) as a cig but not harmful

HoHoHoNoYouDont Thu 31-Jan-13 00:04:58

Although I don't smoke I feel as though I'm in a similar position to my smoking friend in that for the first time in my life I'm having to give up on something I like doing and it's really hard. I need to lose weight but can't stop eating. I have never had to watch what I eat before and it's really hard work, a real psychological challenge! I don't mean a mad diet either, just eating sensibly. But I'm of that mindset that if I want something I enjoy then I'm going to have it and to hell with the consequences.

WorraLiberty Thu 31-Jan-13 00:05:10

Although she does occasionally have a sly drag when she's been drinking

FFS I read that as 'she does occasionally have a dry slag when she's been drinking'

And I'm sober, and I have my reading glasses on blush

HoHoHoNoYouDont Thu 31-Jan-13 00:06:23

grin Worra.

TheSecondComing Thu 31-Jan-13 00:07:57

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ripsishere Thu 31-Jan-13 00:08:22

grin at dry slag.
I am a smoker. I started when I was 12 and am fast approaching 49.
Last year I stopped with the aid of Champix. Due to stupidity I thought one wouldn't matter. It did.
After February 15th, I am going to buy some more and stick to it this time. The problem is, I really enjoy it.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Thu 31-Jan-13 00:09:47

Good luck rip. Keep at it!

Bogeyface Thu 31-Jan-13 00:09:48

Whats the point of a dry slag? No fun for anyone I would have thought!

I hate smoking, it smells, its antisocial and it kills you.

I have quit twice, once for three years, and yet here I am , fag in hand sad

Bogeyface Thu 31-Jan-13 00:11:10

Due to stupidity I thought one wouldn't matter. It did.

Thats my problem. Quitting I can do, no problem.

Staying stopped? No.

I always think, usually when having a drink with smokers, that one wont hurt and within a week I am back on 20 a day.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Thu 31-Jan-13 00:11:31

Oh Bogey at least you've tried. I'm sure when you feel stronger you'll do it again.

Bogeyface Thu 31-Jan-13 00:12:45

My father is suffering badly with Emphysema (sp?) due to smoking and even that isnt enough despite me knowing that in 20 year that will be me...........

freddiefrog Thu 31-Jan-13 00:13:34

I gave up both times when pregnant but I always crept back on them after a year or so, but cracked full-time smoking a few years ago with Champix.

I really miss it though, especially if I'm having a drink. A lot of my friends smoke, and come summer when we're all sitting in the garden with a bottle of wine, I enjoy smoking.

I'll puff my way through a packet of Marlboro lights in one evening, then not have another one for weeks

Bogeyface Thu 31-Jan-13 00:14:45

Booze tastes better with fags

Fags taste better with booze

A very sad fact

WorraLiberty Thu 31-Jan-13 00:15:24

My Aunt is a social smoker and has been since she was a teenager (she's 84)

Every Thursday and Saturday night she goes to the British Legion to have a drink and play Bingo...and that's the only time she ever smokes.

But I've noticed that she...and all other 'social' smokers I know don't actually take the smoke right down into their lungs.

Not one part of me wants to give up

If I tried I could possibly kill someone grin seriously though they are my outlet. How this year has been lately I have started smoking more then usual to deal with it.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Thu 31-Jan-13 00:16:09

I blame the booze then because when I've had wine I always want to eat more!

worra I bet you were one of those kids in school that shouted "SPs ain't even taking it back!" weren't you? grin

WorraLiberty Thu 31-Jan-13 00:18:24

I was more crafty than that SP

I'd say, "Here, let me show you how to smoke that"...and then bugger off with it grin

When one cig went round a group of 6 grin

5madthings Thu 31-Jan-13 00:20:17

I gave up smoking for nine years and then started again!! Nine fucking years!! I then had post natal psychosis afyer ds4 abd started again it helped save my sanity.

Really i dont think its to much to ask that they invent a non harmful, non smelly cigarrette?? I am tempted by the ecig things but they look stupid, are they expensive?

flow4 Thu 31-Jan-13 00:22:19

I quit when my 13yo DS started. I rolled my own, and for a few months I kept thinking "Gosh, I smoked a lot yesterday", not realising that my DS was stealing pinches of my tobacco. I felt like his dealer.

Now he's 17 and I haven't smoked for 4.5 years. He has never stopped though. sad

WorraLiberty Thu 31-Jan-13 00:22:58

Yes the E.Cig looks stupid but honestly it's worth the money.

I bought E.Lites (lights??) can't remember and it was £40 with filters that were equivalent to 200 fags.

But they do a much cheaper starter kit.

freddiefrog Thu 31-Jan-13 00:24:00

I didn't really want to give up either but my kids nagged the daylights out of me and I had a bit of a word with myself over how much they were costing. If I had no kids and money was no object I'd probably never have given up

Champix works really well, every cigarette I had when taking them, tasted like I was licking an old ashtray and I got no enjoyment from them

WorraLiberty Thu 31-Jan-13 00:27:06

They do a starter kit for 7

I really wouldn't bother with the cheaper 'copies' as the ones I tried were shit.

What I liked about them was I could 'smoke' the E.cig as well as normal fags...unlike patches where you're not supposed to do both.

So I'd have a normal fag in the morning and then go onto the E.cig until say lunchtime where I'd have a normal fag...then 'smoke' the E.cig until the evening.

That cut me down to about 5 normal fags a day until I eventually gave them up...then the E.cig took about 4 months to give up after that.

But I had been a 40 a day smoker.

LadyBeagleEyes Thu 31-Jan-13 00:28:03

I've stopped a couple of times too, the longest was 18 months.
And I agree with others, I then felt 'safe', after all I'd stopped hadn't I?
So I'd take the occasional one, from a mate or a neighbour, and hey ho I was buying just ten, then twenty and within a matter of weeks I was a full time smoker again.
I sometimes wonder, if it was possible to buy single cigarettes, if that would help?
Then at least you could control how much you smoked, as it is you have to buy a packet of 20, and just get into that mindless habit of lighting up without thinking.

5madthings Thu 31-Jan-13 00:29:03

O might have a look then and they would mean i dont have to go stand in the garden when i want a fag!

WorraLiberty Thu 31-Jan-13 00:33:48

5mad oddly enough I still went outside to 'smoke' it when my mates went outside to smoke their fags grin

To tell the truth, I didn't buy it originally with a view to giving up.

I bought it because I was doing volunteer work in a school and I couldn't handle the thought of going 6 or 7 hours without a smoke...so I'd have a quick drag on it in the loo at lunchtime/break time.

But I eventually realised that it satisfied me as much as the fags did. Although I did get the odd craving for a real fag...especially after a meal but the beauty of it is you can still have those fags, until you're ready to give up totally.

5madthings Thu 31-Jan-13 00:39:16

Yes i may still go outside as it means i can escape ftom the madthings for 5mins, lovely as they are i need that break!

They look quite good and dp wants me to quit and i am doung the bupa 10k run for wooly hugs in may and am sure it will help with my training for that!

I do like smoking tho which is bloody stupid!

WorraLiberty Thu 31-Jan-13 00:44:58

Yeah see I loved smoking too

But to be honest now I've given up, I realise it wasn't the smoking I loved but that 'hit' that catches the back of the throat when you inhale.

But the reason I loved the hit (and it was a beautiful feeling!) was because it was feeding my nicotine addiction.

I needed it to feel as normal as my non smoking friends felt all the time IYSWIM?

Having said that, even now when someone lights up a fresh cigarette the smell is heavenly for the first few seconds blush

BegoniaBampot Thu 31-Jan-13 00:48:09

For those who can't seem to stop. My mum was probably about a 40-60 a day woman. Total chain smoker from her teens, all through her pregnancies, all through a stroke in her 40's and still carried on though tried several times to give up that never lasted more than a week or two. I honestly thought she would never stop. Then in her 50's, something just clicked and she never had another and said it was easy. Knowing my mum and her need for fags, it was unbelievable (and then became the biggest anti smoker going). Honestly, if she could stop, it is possible for anyone. Unfortunately she still died of lung cancer about 8 yrs later.

5madthings Thu 31-Jan-13 00:48:22

Oh yes that first drag on a fag when you light up is heavenly. God its crap but i should stop...steals resolve to quit...

Tbh as i am.now training for this run it is the perfect time to give up...

WorraLiberty Thu 31-Jan-13 00:53:47

Then honestly 5mad I can't recommend the link I posted enough.

I'd tried numerous times with patches but I failed because they gave me stupid, awful nightmares and because you're not supposed to smoke fags with them.

The latter was what made me fail because I was never quite ready to take that leap.

But with the E.cig there is no leap to take...you can do both and eventually (with a dollop of willpower too) you'll rely on it more and on cigarettes less.

Bogeyface Thu 31-Jan-13 01:15:32

Yes i may still go outside as it means i can escape ftom the madthings for 5mins, lovely as they are i need that break!

Thats the bit I miss most when I quit. Its not so much the fag as the excuse to take 5 minutes "out of life". And its totally legitmate because you cant smoke in the house!

meddie Thu 31-Jan-13 01:20:47

I can recommend an e cig too. Not the cheapo disposable ones from the shops they are rubbish. Its worth investing in a decent one.
I recently bought an Ego-W and its refillable with the nicotine liquid. has the same feel as a cigarette, loads of vapour, realistic 'pull' sensation. Plus loads of really nice flavours . The vanilla, cherry and menthol ones are pretty nice.
I haven't touched a cigarette since I got mine after 33 years of smoking.
The nicotine liquid comes in different strengths right down to zero, so I am gradually cutting the strength back, still go outside with the smokers for a 'fag' but tbh I can see that stopping soon as they stink.... pew I never really realised how bad it smelt.

5madthings Thu 31-Jan-13 01:20:54

Well worra you have convinced me i shall order some tomorrow.

bogey yes its a legitimate break usnt it? How are you anyway are things any better workwisr for dh?

meddie Thu 31-Jan-13 01:24:47

I have tried everything from patches,hypnosis,pills,cold turkey, Alan Carr and the thing that keeps me going at the moment is not giving this bloody government £5 a day extra tax..

shouldkeepquiet Thu 31-Jan-13 01:29:47

I had to practise at giving up. I'm an expert at it now -been 4 years.
I recon it took 10 years or stopping / starting ect untl i finally cracked it. I'm afraid the only think that really makes you stop is the fact your really have to want to stop. Get that right in your head and yes it's actually quite easy after that.
The habit side is harded than the physical side, that goes in about 10 days, only really bad for 4-5 days (grinding teeth stage!) Get another habit to fixate on, i chewed gum after meals ect and soon found i would become frantic if i run out of gum!
Still enough advice it's boring you've all heared it before.

CaptChaos Thu 31-Jan-13 05:36:19

I loved smoking, everything about it, couldn't have given a poop about being all smokey smelly, we just couldn't afford it, so we stopped. Quite how our marriage survived that first couple of weeks, I shall never know.

I still miss it despite now not being able to stand the smell of smoke confused

Chloe55 Thu 31-Jan-13 05:53:16

Ecigs were the only thing that helped me. I have stopped 'smoking' those too now. Dh, my dad, stepmum and some friends all stopped with the help of ecigs. I recommend them all the time. As a smoker I never thought I'd be able to stop but now I'm one of those reformed smokers who hates the smell grin If someone comes into work stinking of cigs it makes me consider that I too must have stunk like that whilst smoking.

MrRected Thu 31-Jan-13 06:29:51

I gave up in September 2000 when I found out I was pregnant with DS1. I smoked 30 a day and just gave up cold turkey. It really was easy, I never craved a cigarette.

I stayed off the cigs until he was 2 started again for about 6 months and gave up again when DS2 was conceived - same thing, gave up as soon as I had a positive pregnancy test. I have never started again.

On the odd occasions I have been tempted, I picture myself at my childrens' weddings and remind myself that it's my job to keep healthy to be around for them well into the future.

wigglesrock Thu 31-Jan-13 06:46:19

I smoke abut 6 cigarettes a week, sometimes less especially if the weathers shitty. I have 1 at about 9.30pm most nights. I have no intention on giving those cigarettes up.

I did obviously smoke a lot more before I had the kids. I was able to stop in each pregnancy without any bother, stay off them for about 6-9 months and then start again as soon as I went back to work.

My husband stopped and started through each pregnancy as well but about 18 months ago just stopped - this time he used nothing - no gum, no patches etc. It was much more successful for him and he hasn't touched them since. He was turning 40 around that time and I think that was a huge motivating factor although he never said.

magimedi Thu 31-Jan-13 09:30:10

After 40 years of smoking (& many failed quitting attempts) I have given up with ecigs.

The strangest thing is that I really, really loathe the smell of cigarettes now & other times when I quit I still loved the smell!!

Worra (& anyone else) how easy was it to quit the eCig? Did you drop nicotine strengths or just go cold turkey?

gordyslovesheep Thu 31-Jan-13 09:35:12

I loved smoking but my friend died of cancer (not smoking related) aged 34 leaving her children behind I asked my self why I would knowingly risk doing the same

I took champix - I stopped 3 years ago and haven't even wanted one since - the thought makes me sick

WorraLiberty Thu 31-Jan-13 09:38:37

magimedi, oddly enough I did neither.

I just kind of found myself using it less and less, especially as I was strict with myself and made sure I still went outside to use it...so no chance of just idly puffing on it when MNetting or anything.

It kind of became like a dose of medicine in the end because the whole smoking element had been taken away...and as long as I knew it was in my bag, I eventually felt as though I just didn't need it.

I think I finally quit it in the end because I kept forgetting to charge the battery.

magimedi Thu 31-Jan-13 09:49:30

thanks Worra

Am ashamed to say that I have not been as good as you & have enjoyed being able to smoke inside!! Will have to go back to outside the back door again!

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