to be irritated by the workmen using my loo?

(89 Posts)
cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:09:39

A (sort of joint) job of work, but arranged by next door neighbours, required workmen to go up into my loft on to the roof through our private bathroom. This is my special place - bath, bath cream, soaking and so on.

Anyway - the roofers came back down, muddy and dishevelled (fine - to be expected) and I was about to escort them down when the chief roofer said 'give me a minute - I want a pee'. And proceeded to close the door and use our private (and nighttime) loo.

I was so taken aback I didn't say anything. There's a loo by the front door for guests (which he had been told about) but no-one but family (and close family at that) uses the top one. I felt real irritated. He's a decent enough guy but I just don't feel happy about men that I don't really know using my toilet.

Please tell me. Am I being unreasonable or should I get some perspective? The sky isn't going to fall because someone peed in my loo - it just feels icky!

McNewPants2013 Wed 30-Jan-13 22:11:50

don't you use public toilet, toilets at work ect

FlouncingMintyy Wed 30-Jan-13 22:12:06


cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:12:51

Thanks. That relieves me. The sky won't fall!

50ShadesOfGreggs Wed 30-Jan-13 22:12:51

It is a special place to you. To him it is just a look, and he had to go.

50ShadesOfGreggs Wed 30-Jan-13 22:13:34

Loo. Not look. Grrrr...

Fakebook Wed 30-Jan-13 22:14:04

Ugh. Workman wee is the WORST.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Wed 30-Jan-13 22:14:37

YANBU if you had already told him which toilet he could use. I wouldn't like it either. What if you had left something of a very personal nature in there.

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 22:15:25

YABU. It's only a toilet.

Life will go on.

MyHeadWasInTheSandNowNot Wed 30-Jan-13 22:15:33

I think either 'Get A Grip' or Grow The Fuck Up' work here. You choose. It's a toilet, he was in the room and needed a wee... fair enough to be annoyed if he walked past the downstairs loo and the family bathroom and traisped up there to use it, but he didn't.... now, have a nice cup of tea and chill the fuck out grin

fuckadoodlepoopoo Wed 30-Jan-13 22:15:46

Yes you're being unreasonable and a bit crazy.

timidviper Wed 30-Jan-13 22:16:11

Yes, for God's sake get some perspective. the man had a wee which was all flushed away. He didn't wipe his knob all over everywhere hopefully

I have never heard of anybody being precious about loos apart from on MN, I'm sure you will find someone else weirdo to agree with you here as I have seen similar threads before.

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:16:15

That's as may be apostropheuse. You haven't seen my roof!

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:17:10

I'm feeling so much better. Perspective is all.


sukysue Wed 30-Jan-13 22:17:19

I bloody hate ppl using my toilet I hate ppl working in my house full stop they just make me uneasy and onedge and it's like they have spoiled our pristine home lol not that it's pristine but ykwim! I spose it's an invasion of our orivacy that we hate really yadnbu imho op!

sausagesandwich34 Wed 30-Jan-13 22:17:44

can I hand you a biscuit

he is a human

if they had been through your bathroom you were pressumably already going to clean it

surely it's better he used that one rather than traipsing into the downstairs loo?

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 22:17:51

Oh well if he pished on your roof that would be unreasonable. grin

sukysue Wed 30-Jan-13 22:18:16

I bloody hate ppl using my toilet I hate ppl working in my house full stop they just make me uneasy and on edge and it's like they have spoiled our pristine home lol not that it's pristine but ykwim! I spose it's an invasion of our privacy that we hate really yadnbu imho op!

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:20:40

Sorry apostropheuse. In our neck of the woods, if he'd pished on my roof he'd have been pretty quickly in charge.

But I feel happier now.

Thank you all.


ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 30-Jan-13 22:22:23

I can't bear workmen either. Their wee is so inferior to my own.

sukysue Wed 30-Jan-13 22:22:27

and how blatant of him to do that in front of you after you tellling him to pee downstairs thats like 2 fingers up at you and as if he did it to upset you he must have seen how lovely your bathroom was .I am getting angry now for you what a horrible arrogant ignorant bastard.

Minimammoth Wed 30-Jan-13 22:24:27

My DH is in the building business and no way any of our guys would have used a loo without asking if it was ok first, so no the world will not end but they should have asked. As you say it is a very personal space.

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 22:25:43

sukysue - Disproportionate response. hmm

JoanByers Wed 30-Jan-13 22:26:39

bastard workmen peeing in ones personal toilet.

whatever next.

I would issue them with some adult diapers.

FreePeaceSweet Wed 30-Jan-13 22:31:34

Sukysue was that reply a piss take? confused

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 22:33:10

freepeace grin at a piss take

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:34:34

Well it may have been. The point was that they were told that they could use the downstairs loo but the chiefie chose to use my private bathroom which was full of personal lotions, makeup, bath essence, flowers, towels etc etc.

It made me uncomfortable.

piprabbit Wed 30-Jan-13 22:37:16

OP - you have made me laugh grin.
I would love a private, nighttime loo, to complement my public daytime loo and my private daytime loo. I would also like a cleaner to spruce them all.

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:38:07

But the sky's still up there so Hey Ho! Anyone tries to break in tonight or key my car and I'll just phone my roofie! (What goes around here comes around with bells and whistles.)


sukysue Wed 30-Jan-13 22:39:19

no it was not a piss take, it's time we all stood up for ourselves, it was an invasion of her privacy and against her wishes and instructions in her own home. Where is he to totally ignore her requests, you nor I would dare do that, the more I think about it the worse it seems.

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:39:58

I'd love a cleaner as well, pip. smile

I'd also like to be free of the needs which make loos on each level necessary.


Creamtea1 Wed 30-Jan-13 22:40:35

It could have been much worse. He could have had a dump.
And not flushed.

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:42:24

He could have. But that would have been less bad to me - I wonder why?

<resolves to speak to counsellor on this>

ApocalypseThen Wed 30-Jan-13 22:43:15

What do you think he did with your personal lotions? Notice them? Ignore them? Breathe on them? Inhale the magic out of them? Use them? Is he looking younger?

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 22:49:12

Oh cozietoesie perhaps you smell so divine that he wanted to check out your private, personal bathroom so that he can go out and buy the same smellies as you have

As you read this post he is probably languishing in a beautiful en-suite bathroom with candles and flowers and YOUR smell is wafting out into his beautiful master bedroom with petals strewn across the bed...

as he waits your arrival with anticipation.



Creamtea1 Wed 30-Jan-13 22:50:05

Can't believe a dump would have been less offensive cosie! I would find that the ultimate insult - you can always hold a poo in but when you need a wee, you need a wee. I'm concerned over use of the lotions now too..

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:50:29

Well I couldn't say, Apocalypse. He was pretty muddy to start off with and pretty muddy to end up with.

Not a good advertisement for any if he used then I fear.

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:52:26

I shall take note of your worries and squirrel all the lotions away when they come back tomorrow.

Oh - did I mention that?


apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 22:52:27

You can't always hold a poo in if you've got IBS though creamtea


apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 22:53:41

cosietoes Are you going to tell him you were discussing his bodily functions on t'internet?


Pandemoniaa Wed 30-Jan-13 22:54:40

which was full of personal lotions, makeup, bath essence, flowers, towels etc etc.

OMG. They must feel utterly violated. I'd throw the whole lot out now they've shared the same air as a tradesperson.

YABU. But then I think you may already suspect this.

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 22:55:26

You've all cheered me up so much and given me perspective. I'm not good with such things.

Many thanks everyone. I'll be relaxed tomorrow.


FreePeaceSweet Wed 30-Jan-13 22:56:50

apostropheuse I did wonder if that gentle bit of comedy would be well received. grin

Sukysue Sheesh... it was a fella answering the call of nature not a masked intruder hiding with his cock out ready to flash.

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 22:56:55

Great cozietoes smile

Sorry but I can't help giggling at Sukysue's utter OUTRAGE at workmen.

Here's a thought Suky if you hate workment that much - go to B&Q, buy a copy of their twee-ly named book "You Can Do It", and do everything yourself.

Then those "bastarding arrogant workmen" hope I got the names in the right order won't have to enter and therefore violate your very personal space.

Whilst there they sell grips in aisle five.... hmm


TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub Wed 30-Jan-13 22:59:18

Timidviper, you've never seen a thread on MN about unreasonable loo use? My dear, you haven't lived.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Wed 30-Jan-13 22:59:35

which was full of personal lotions, makeup, bath essence, flowers, towels etc etc

Did he use them? shock

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub Wed 30-Jan-13 23:02:33

Here you go, timidviper. You may lose an hour of your life and control of your pelvic floor, I warn you..

Creamtea1 Wed 30-Jan-13 23:04:18

cozie I think tomorrow you should elaborate more on rules re toilet usage to him - and his team - differentiate between wee's, poo's, ibs induced poo's (ensure he had adjusted his diet to try and prevent these at all costs), lotion usage etc. I would also refuse all cups of tea until the rules are agreed; everyone knows a morning cuppa often gets things moving too - and you don't want that.

sukysue Wed 30-Jan-13 23:04:51

I wouldn't put it past him.

cozietoesie Wed 30-Jan-13 23:05:48

I was just off to bed - but I thought I would add. Men who you don't know well peeing in your personal space without invitation. There are times (and past times don't help) when that is both unwelcome and threatening. Don't make too much light of it.

Anyway - the sky is still up there and I've made a banana cream pudding for supper tomorrow.


Pandemoniaa Wed 30-Jan-13 23:06:31

Have we mentioned poo bugs yet?

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 23:07:25

yes creamtea and definitely no pishing on the roof.

Pourquoimoi Wed 30-Jan-13 23:08:41

YABU - it was a toilet in the room where all the workmen had to go through. It wasn't as if he went past the guest toilet and invaded your personal space. Sorry but I think you're being ridiculous.

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 23:10:08

cozietosie You made a banana cream pudding for supper?

You're definitely not playing hard to get with your builder are you?

Creamtea1 Wed 30-Jan-13 23:13:51

I think she is risking it with the cream in the banana cream, that could well cause an ibs flare up

MildredIsMyAlterEgo Wed 30-Jan-13 23:19:41

OP - They're coming back tomorrow you do realise that they will all use that loo tomorrow grin

maddening Wed 30-Jan-13 23:26:13

It's all wipe down cleanable surfaces.

Pop your creams and lotions away and clean it after they've gone.

It could be far worse - I've watched rogue traders so I know of these things grin

grovel Wed 30-Jan-13 23:27:18


gimmecakeandcandy Wed 30-Jan-13 23:28:45

Yes yabu but I would feel just like you so I would be U too!

gimmecakeandcandy Wed 30-Jan-13 23:29:36

Put a bit of tape over it and say its broken smile

Creamtea1 Wed 30-Jan-13 23:32:01

Ooh good idea - put tape all around it saying 'crime scene - do not cross'

kissmyheathenass Wed 30-Jan-13 23:39:51

OP, I would have been pissed off too. A few years ago a man came to clear the garden. He asked to use the toilet (only one in house, upstairs). He left it dirty and skiddy. shock angryFilthy bastard. I made dh clean it. Scarred me for life it did.

BerthaKitt Thu 31-Jan-13 00:01:13

"Anyway - the roofers came back down, muddy and dishevelled (fine - to be expected)"

What the hell have you been doing to get mud on your roof?

ComposHat Thu 31-Jan-13 00:34:17

Ugh. Workman wee is the WORST

And you piss Chanel No 5 I suppose?

Arthurfowlersallotment Thu 31-Jan-13 00:37:32

I keep thinking of that dreadful film The Help.

frustratedashell Thu 31-Jan-13 00:39:20

this is seriously funny! Made me laugh. Thank you.
By the way I had 2 workmen in yesterday and one asked if he could use the loo and I said yes of course. I went out and came back to find someone had used the loo (only a pee) and not flushed. I did think that was a bit eww!

YellowTulips Thu 31-Jan-13 01:56:53

YANBU - tell him to have a pissing contest from the roof tomorrow with his workmates.

Longest reach gets to shit in your toilet. hmm

LesBOFerables Thu 31-Jan-13 02:10:52

It's a bit weird, just because most workmen I know would feel very conscious of invading your space and hate to impose, not to mention protect themselves from accusations of theft etc.

I'm surprised he didn't avail himself of the guest loo you have pointed out, which would be usual. That said, I've seen a thread on here which complained about noticing a workman next door peeing outdoors when they thought they couldn't be overlooked. So they can't win.

andubelievedthat Thu 31-Jan-13 03:26:09

so if you did not hear his pee hit the water he obviously pissed in your personal sink, not for one second am i suggesting you meet and greet outside your own toilet door ??

fuckadoodlepoopoo Thu 31-Jan-13 07:36:02

By the way I had 2 workmen in yesterday and one asked if he could use the loo and I said yes of course. I went out and came back to find someone had used the loo (only a pee) and not flushed. I did think that was a bit eww!

Perhaps he was reluctant to waste water for just a wee!

atacareercrossroads Thu 31-Jan-13 07:49:00

What are these potions you are so worried about? Lube for 'those dry days'? If not get over yourself. He probably couldn't give a squirt what your bathroom has in it. Good grief do people really get the clench over stuff like this?!

ZillionChocolate Thu 31-Jan-13 07:57:29

YABU. For me, personal space is where I am. He was already in your bathroom, so I wouldn't expect him to go looking for the "guest loo". I would have thought it's fairly unusual to have a "private bathroom".

TheCraicDealer Thu 31-Jan-13 09:42:09

I just don't feel happy about men that I don't really know using my toilet

But, why?! Maybe this comes from only having one loo which all family members, visitors, tradesmen and assorted randomers use, but it's just wee. I doubt he's getting some kick out of refolding your decorative towels or judging your choice of dried flowers. To most people it's just a toilet.

More than likely he was just desperate for a widdle after being up on your roof and didn't want to wait for you all to trudge down the stairs before being able to go.

YouOldSlag Thu 31-Jan-13 09:49:13
pingu2209 Thu 31-Jan-13 09:51:58

When we had builders in the owner of the firm said that they would provide a port-a-loo but then didn't. One of the builders had 'the runs' and used our family loo practically every half an hour one day. Result was that all 5 of us came down with the same bug. I was furious and said that he wasn't allowed in at all to use the loo/kitchen etc. I totally understand where you are coming from.

Fakebook Thu 31-Jan-13 09:53:51

ComposHat, no. That would sting like hell.

We expel flower petals and natural spring water from our back and front botties in this house.

fuckadoodlepoopoo Thu 31-Jan-13 10:13:47

I just don't feel happy about men that I don't really know using my toilet

You know you can't get pregnant like that right?! And how does it make a difference if you know them, or if they were a woman? Do only male strangers have evil wee?

TraceyTrickster Thu 31-Jan-13 11:03:08

My husband is a tradie.

He hates asking to use a loo (probably because of threads like this) and is always bursting before he will ask.

it is only a toilet and probably better than peeing on your plants because he will not be permitted to use the hallowed lav.

milkmoustache Thu 31-Jan-13 11:11:32

I am still smirking at the idea that the OP has a special 'night time loo'. I may start directing non-family members to use the (inferior) downstairs loo only and see what happens.

BabyRoger Thu 31-Jan-13 11:13:45

This is the funniest toilet thread I have read!

Lol at 'private night time loo' grin

God forbid! A man - a stranger! A tradesman man! Using a the loo in a bathroom with LOTIONS in it! shock

fluffyraggies Thu 31-Jan-13 11:32:20

Laughing at this.

But my dear dad was a tradesman, and my DH is a tradesman, and i find it bloody stupid to be so precious about a person using your toilet. I'm sure he didn't use the 'wrong toilet' as some kind of scent marking exercise hmm

Be glad he didn't do it up the side of the house.

Take it as a compliment, in fact, that he used your loo, because my DH wont go to the loo in or accept a cupper from a home that doesn't look clean. It works both ways y'know.

fuckadoodlepoopoo Thu 31-Jan-13 11:33:33

There was a workman near my house once who appeared to not be allowed to use the loo as he was knocking on neighbours doors looking for a toilet. I realised this after he knocked on my door whilst i was in the shower and so couldn't open the door but looked out the window to see who it was. Not one let him and so looking rather desperate he weed (thinking he was out of view but obviously i could see him!) in a plastic lunch box he found in his car and then tipped in down the drain. Poor bloke was desperate!

There's no need to treat workmen like dirty second class citizens who are too scummy to use your toilet!

ChasingDogs Thu 31-Jan-13 11:52:26

Utterly disgusting.

This is what happens when social boundaries fall apart- I'm convinced you allowed them in through the front door rather than directing them to the tradesmen's entrance didn't you? A common error in this day and age.

You need to take these workmen in hand, or you will be on a downward spiral. If they are already brazen enough to relieve themselves in the private night toilet, tomorrow they will probably be shitting in the corners of your rooms like dogs.

Where on earth was the housekeeper whilst all of this was going on?!

fuckadoodlepoopoo Thu 31-Jan-13 11:56:03

Chasingdogs. grin

specialsubject Thu 31-Jan-13 12:21:56

and I thought that Hyacinth Bucket was a joke...It is a toilet. It is a receptacle for bodily wastes. Urine is actually quite sterile when it leaves the body.

Would people prefer that workmen piss on the carpet?

BridgetBidet Thu 31-Jan-13 12:22:55

My husband's a workman. Actually thank you OP. It has always bothered me, now I know I'm not alone I'm going to buy him a litter tray.

atacareercrossroads Thu 31-Jan-13 12:52:15

I simply buy another house if mine need work doing to them. Much better than having ghastly workmen coming in and out with their awful work shoes that make a mockery out of my fleur de lys decor AND havig the cheek to moan about having to use the hole in the ground in the garden if they absolutely must pass urine etc.

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