To think that Frankie Boyle is a despicable human being?

(190 Posts)
MiniEggsinJanuary Tue 29-Jan-13 23:06:10

Just flicked on to an old episode of Mock the Week to find Frankie Boyle. I had forgotten about him and why he was so controversial so I googled and read the Wikipedia section on controversy about him. I knew he was a racist bigot but didn't realise he also made fun of disabled children. Please tell me I am not being unreasonable to think that he doesn't deserve the fees he must get when his programmes are repeated on Dave?

sukysue Tue 29-Jan-13 23:07:05

yanbu vile man.

SirBoobAlot Tue 29-Jan-13 23:07:40

At least on Mock The Week it's not just him talking.

gordyslovesheep Tue 29-Jan-13 23:08:13

he successfully sued a paper that called him racist did he not?

his humour is not always pleasant but as far as I know it's not compulsory either

MrsWolowitzerables Tue 29-Jan-13 23:08:42

YANBU.

He's a horrid excuse for a man and a piss-poor excuse for a comedian. Ugh.

gimmecakeandcandy Tue 29-Jan-13 23:10:27

He seems quite deranged lately, full of hate! I do wonder what he is like with his wife and child!

elizaregina Tue 29-Jan-13 23:11:02

Picking on people with LD is the lowest of the low as far as I am concerned - pick on people who can fight back, not on those that cant.

he is a vile human being - any fees should surely be donated to a charity.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Tue 29-Jan-13 23:11:10

I don't really follow him, the bits I've seen of him haven't amused me too much. Can't believe he takes the piss out of the disabled. Vile.

Cherriesarelovely Tue 29-Jan-13 23:11:24

His "jokes" about Katie Price's son and about Rebecca Addlington were repulsive and then he made a truly horrendous jibe about Madeleine McCann. He is revolting.

Fanjounchained Tue 29-Jan-13 23:15:06

This guy makes me ashamed to be Scottish actually. I have a cousin who is one of the sweetest, most genuine people you could meet and I was left open mouthed a few years ago when she said she'd been to see this arsehole and thought he was hilarious.

I can understand comedians wanting to be controversial but he's just a horrible bastard.

AnyFucker Tue 29-Jan-13 23:16:50

There was a piss taking comedy sketch show on telly last night called "Very Important People" I had never seen before. They parodied him pretty well.

BumBiscuits Tue 29-Jan-13 23:18:11

He makes me laugh.

I disagree that he's a racist bigot. I believe a court also disagreed with the Mirror for saying this. He donated the £50k he was awarded to charity. He also donated his profits from his Irish gigs last year to an Irish domestic violence charity. He speaks up for female comedy writers in a non patronising way

As Gordy said, it's not compulsory to watch him or Miranda for that matter

MiniEggsinJanuary Tue 29-Jan-13 23:18:16

Madeleine McCann as well? Oh for goodness sake.

Of course his "comedy" isn't compulsory Gordy but unfortunately that doesn't stop people hearing his comments without meaning to. My pint is that he shouldn't be given the air time to be allowed to put forward such upsetting and heinous views.

FreudiansSlipper Tue 29-Jan-13 23:20:42

you are playing in to his hands this is what he wants

at times he is very funny on mtw he is very quick with his comebacks but he likes to disgust and outrage people that is his act

SamanthaStormer Tue 29-Jan-13 23:20:53

YANBU. He's vile, and can't understand why people would find him funny. The things he said about Katie Price's son was absolutely revolting.
Say what you like about her I can't stand her as she's a grown up who willingly puts herself into the media spotlight and ridicules herself enough with her actions, but leave her kids out of it.
They're innocents. They don't ask for twats like him to take the piss out of them. angry

pigletmania Tue 29-Jan-13 23:21:37

YANBU vile man not funny at all

timidviper Tue 29-Jan-13 23:21:42

I'm in agreement with BumBiscuits. I like him and if you don't, just don't watch him.

Harriet35 Tue 29-Jan-13 23:22:52

I like him. Even if you don't think he's funny you don't think he should be banned from our screens surely?

chickensarmpit Tue 29-Jan-13 23:23:00

My oh thinks he's hilarious and I must admit, he make me laugh sometimes. I think he goes too far with his jokes but I don't think he's vile. An idiot yes.

Tommy Tue 29-Jan-13 23:24:25

interesting discussion about him on "I've never seen Star Wars" on R4 this evening. Jenni Murray was on and had never seen him so they sent her a DVD - she was extremely unimpressed.....

gordyslovesheep Tue 29-Jan-13 23:24:37

yes but there is an off switch

FelicityWasCold Tue 29-Jan-13 23:25:59

I think some people are making the mistake of thinking he believes what he says.

It wouldn't be a joke if he meant it would it?

Personally I'm own the fence with how funny he is. But the skill that he uses is evident.

Slipperyslopin Tue 29-Jan-13 23:26:20

Jimmy Carr is very controversial too but manages to do it in a different, less offensive way. I've heard that people who complain and are offended by his material are sent muffin baskets XD

Harriet35 Tue 29-Jan-13 23:27:26

"My pint is that he shouldn't be given the air time to be allowed to put forward such upsetting and heinous views. "
You could say that about any comedian that has views that people disagree with. Or any person in general. Nobody has a right not to be upset!

SamanthaStormer Tue 29-Jan-13 23:28:31

I like him. Even if you don't think he's funny you don't think he should be banned from our screens surely?

So, what's the difference between a so called comedian on national telly making fun of disabled kids and making disgusting jokes about nobody wanting him and a random person on the street?
Why is it more acceptable if you're doing it in the name of so called 'comedy on telly'? hmm
People would quite rightly slap down bullies for saying the same thing. So why does the same rule not apply for him? Is it more acceptable when you're famous?
Joe Bloggs general public, down the road, could make the same argument that he's "only having a laugh."
But there's no difference between him and Frankie really, is there.

WMDinthekitchen Tue 29-Jan-13 23:35:16

Frankie doesn't have a witty or amusing cell in his body. He is like the child who can't manage to attract positive attention so he goes for the negative. In doing so he is highly offensive. A little man in all senses of the word. I expect he is a real bore in RL.

MrsWolowitzerables Tue 29-Jan-13 23:36:50

To the people who say he's harmless are you aware that he made jokes about the reduced lifespan of children with Down's syndrome?

Hi-fucking-larious no?

Disgusting man.

ThedementedPenguin Tue 29-Jan-13 23:37:23

Yabvu, that's my opinion I find him extremely funny.

Yes he does go too far sometimes, and I was quite shocked at some things he said but I do find him funny.

Also yes he successfully sued a newspaper for calling him racist.

I agree with others you don't have to watch his shows!

MiniEggsinJanuary Tue 29-Jan-13 23:37:25

Very good point Samantha. As I have now conveyed twice, I wasn't watching him voluntarily, he happened to be on a programme I happened to flick on to. I did switch him off.
I have very serious concerns about the moral standards of people who think he's funny. I guess they'll just have to wait until he says something which insults a group which affects them directly. Some people clearly don't have enough imagination to work out what is unacceptable unless it directly targets them.
As for wanting him to be banned from mainstream TV - I wouldn't campaign for it but I wouldn't be adverse to it.

MiniEggsinJanuary Tue 29-Jan-13 23:40:20

I'll also point out that successfully sueing a newspaper who accused him of being racist, doesn't make him not racist!!! It simply means that a very clever lawyer was able to argue his case and find loopholes in the law which meant that he could get a relatively small (in litigious terms) amount of money from a media giant. Doesn't prove a thing.

Harriet35 Tue 29-Jan-13 23:40:49

And what if someone you liked was banned from mainstream TV? I hate smug PC comedians like Jack Whitehall and Marcus Brigstocke but I wouldn't want them banned from telly because other people like them. Censorship is never good.

FreudiansSlipper Tue 29-Jan-13 23:41:31

Concerned about my moral standards now that is funny grin

ThedementedPenguin Tue 29-Jan-13 23:44:57

I do agree that he goes to far at times, but seriously everyone knows what he does. It's a joke (in a twisted way) I don't believe he means it.

He takes the piss out of EVERYONE! Not just a certain group of people. Have you ever watched any if his DVDs the people in the audience are abused by him.

I get that the op didn't put his show on, but if you don't like him and come across him just switch it over.

Fanjounchained Tue 29-Jan-13 23:47:54

As much as I dislike the guy I do think he is very articulate and intelligent...but there is no overlooking the fact that some of the stuff he says is simply sick. He has a kids, as someone mentioned above, I very much doubt he would be cracking jokes about disabilities if his own children were affected. He's a dick...sometimes funny, but still a dick.

MariusEarlobe Tue 29-Jan-13 23:48:34

He says what he says to shock and create outrage and attention which is what he gets.

I can't stand him so I refuse to give him any attention.

KobayashiMaru Tue 29-Jan-13 23:51:04

have you any sort of proof that he is a "racist bigot"? Thats a pretty big to say about someone, so presumably you can show us why this is true?

BumBiscuits Tue 29-Jan-13 23:52:49

Oh of course, minieggs, I forgot the Mirror don't have access to very clever lawyers.

blindworm Tue 29-Jan-13 23:52:54

He just sued a newspaper who called him racist and won, and gave the £50,000 damages to charity.

Harriet35 Tue 29-Jan-13 23:54:27

Would you rather he just made jokes about "nasty Tories" and other safe topics to get an easy cheer from a BBC audience nowadays? Comedians are supposed to be challenging.

apostropheuse Tue 29-Jan-13 23:55:34

He's a disgusting, cruel bastard.

I can't stand the vile little man.

Harriet35 Tue 29-Jan-13 23:57:12

He isn't little is he? I always thought he was quite a big bloke.

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 00:01:02

He as a man, as a whole person, is little, his physical height isn't.

Harriet35 Wed 30-Jan-13 00:02:36

Stick to your safe comedians and leave Frankie to people who aren't so easily offended.

DontEvenThinkAboutIt Wed 30-Jan-13 00:05:47

He is a really clever bloke which makes his nasty disgusting 'jokes' even more reprehensible.

Yes, he makes jokes about everyone, coz its bloody hilarious making 'jokes' involving sex (ffs) about disabled children who can't defend themselves. That is hilarious. angry

He is a very sinister man.

blindworm Wed 30-Jan-13 00:06:12

I don't like jokes about Down's or Harvey Price but I prefer him to Jack Whitehall.

Fanjounchained Wed 30-Jan-13 00:07:37

Harriet35 - what the fuck is challenging about a comedian who choses to poke fun at the vunerable people in society. Did you piss yourself laughing at bullies at school too ?

I'm not into safe comedians either...just not into pricks like Frankie Boyle..

I don't agree with censorship but he is a total cunt and I'd have a hard time liking anyone who found him funny. In the future I think disablist jokes will be looked upon in the same way that racist jokes from the 1970s are now.

MiniEggsinJanuary Wed 30-Jan-13 00:10:18

Ok, so he won his case so clearly he is not a racist bigot. This is what the opposition argued:

"Ronald Thwaites QC, for MGN, argued that Mr Boyle was a "racist comedian" and said the newspaper would claim that its use of the word "racist" was a fair opinion.

He said Mr Boyle used negative stereotyping of black people "usually in a sexual context".

"What he has done is to take the negative stereotype of black people and exploit that for cheap laughs gratuitously," Mr Thwaites told jurors.

"This is not part of some intellectual cause. This is not part of some clever message." "

His defence was that he was "vile" but not racist. He won, ergo he is not racist and therefore certainly not a racist bigot.

He still said all of the other things about disabled children however. I find that to be enough to find him despicable.

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 00:11:36

People who aren't offended by Frankie Boyle's material ought to be.

No human being should feel that the things that comes out of that man's mouth are in any way shape or form acceptable.

It's actually not cool or clever.

apostropheuse Wed 30-Jan-13 00:13:22

Oh and I am certainly not easily offended

BumBiscuits Wed 30-Jan-13 00:13:56

An argument in a case MGN lost.

StuntGirl Wed 30-Jan-13 00:16:03

YANBU to dislike him, that's your opinion. But to say he should be removed from tv just because of your opinion is BVU.

MiniEggsinJanuary Wed 30-Jan-13 00:16:17

You seem to have the opinion that a lost legal case means more than it does, Bum. Lawsuits are a game played by clever people who fight to prove mens rea and actus reas whilst using precedents to help them on their way.

MiniEggsinJanuary Wed 30-Jan-13 00:18:02

Not what I said Stunt. I said "Please tell me I am not being unreasonable to think that he doesn't deserve the fees he must get when his programmes are repeated on Dave?"

magentastardust Wed 30-Jan-13 00:18:07

Whoever compared him to Jimmy Carr - I'm sure that frankie Boyle used to write a lot of Jimmy Carr's material.

SinisterBuggyMonth Wed 30-Jan-13 00:21:30

I dont find him funny. The one episode of his show I watched, every other joke had the sam punchline (Aids), and the biggest laugh from the audience was a line nicked from Angelina Jolie in Girl Interupted.

BumBiscuits Wed 30-Jan-13 00:22:30

It is what it is mini , accept it. BTW, YABVU in repeatedly calling lawyers "clever" smile

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe Wed 30-Jan-13 00:55:51

Yes he is, OP - as are many other so called comedians - ... although, what words do you use to describe those people who watch programmes like 'Mock The Week' and enjoy that type of humour? After all... the schedules depend on audiences. No audience and the programmes disappear. You have the viewing public to thank for that. Place the blame where it should be.

deleted203 Wed 30-Jan-13 01:06:51

I used to find Frankie Boyle funny - he was quick witted and very sharp - particularly about Scotland/Scots - I remember him talking about being in a bar in Glasgow and asking for a pint of lager and lime and the barman snarling, 'We don't dae cocktails'....

Saw him live 3 or 4 years ago and he was really, really good - although there was the odd sharp intake of breath.

Bought DH his latest DVD for Christmas and the pair of us sat stony faced through about half an hour of it. It was dire. He seems to now feel that snarling things like, 'I hope your kid gets cancer and dies in fucking agony' is somehow funny because it's 'controversial'. No Frankie - it's just not fucking funny. He seems to be on a mission to see just how sick he can make his material - but has lost the point that it still needs to be funny or clever.....and it's not anymore.

KobayashiMaru Wed 30-Jan-13 01:07:08

so you don't have any proof at all, you are using the arguments of the losing side in a court case?hmm

CuriousMama Wed 30-Jan-13 01:08:03

Very Imortant People with the Frankie Boyle parody.

StuntGirl Wed 30-Jan-13 01:12:17

And I have the same opinion, YABVU!

EuroShopperEnergyDrink Wed 30-Jan-13 01:19:09

His act isn't just to cause shock and offence, it's to highlight the bigoted attitudes in our society. He doesn't hate blacks or disabled people or women or homosexuals, and if you honestly think he does and his acts are basically hate speech- then I am genuinely facepalming. You'll find that even our naice comedians have thinly veiled sexism, homophobia racism, which I find more offensive on so many levels as they actually do believe it.

Frankie is a anti domestic violence campaigner, supporter of the Palestinian cause, feminist and generally most leftie person ever.

EuroShopperEnergyDrink Wed 30-Jan-13 01:26:09

What are you on about regarding his lawsuit, mini? You seem to think that he should have lost it and he must have used ££££ lawyers and used a lot of spin in court?

Do you even know what comment that the mirror seemed to think to be racist? confused Frankie deserved to win.

colleysmill Wed 30-Jan-13 01:38:05

I have a friend who has come into contact with FB quite regularly in RL through work. She always says he is extraordinarily polite unlike other well known people that I can't name and seemed really good with his kids.

Sometimes on the old MTW he is very very funny but I don't like the more recent stuff. I tend to think his "act" is now based around shock value rather than what I find funny.

StuntGirl Wed 30-Jan-13 01:39:21

Frankie is a anti domestic violence campaigner, supporter of the Palestinian cause, feminist and generally most leftie person ever.

^ This.

Curious to what the arguments were on the winning side of the court case?

CuriousMama Wed 30-Jan-13 01:42:55

He isn't on MTW now is he?

dadadadadadadadaBATMAN Wed 30-Jan-13 03:51:48

Frankie Boyle sets out to be shocking, at least he doesn't make excuses for it. Ricky Gervais is happy to tweet "People often mistake the subject of a joke with the target of a joke" which allows him to play characters like the eponymous Derek without fear of criticism. There will be some people that find Derek 'heart warming'... but there will be many more who start using Derek as a generic term of abuse for any person with LD or ASD. At least Frankie isn't claiming that it's okay to joke the way he does. We know it's wrong and that's WHY it's funny. He's certainly not a racist and the joke he did about war veterans and the paralympic games was well received by veterans and paralympians alike.

dadadadadadadadaBATMAN Wed 30-Jan-13 03:56:04

For a despicable human being he doesn't half do a lot lot charity... Everything from domestic violence to Palestine and even legal help for a guy in Guantanamo bay... ? Not that this excludes him from qualification as despicable... Jimmy Saville was quite the philanthropist too...

maddening Wed 30-Jan-13 05:44:11

I thought he was funny on mtw so watched one of his standup shows but soon turned that off.

mrsbunnylove Wed 30-Jan-13 06:07:12

so, you had to google to find an excuse to be outraged by this joker?
that's another hit to his name.
why not just ignore?

MiniEggsinJanuary Wed 30-Jan-13 09:00:34

Right, read carefully and try to understand. I said, and many agreed, that some aspects of his comedy are vile and cruel to some groups or individuals. I find his controversial material offensive and I am not the only one. I know I can ignore him - I intend to from now on. The only reason I came across him again was because I flicked on to an old episode of Mock the Week. The host made a comment about the "racist door" (not my words) which prompted me to research what controversy Boyle has caused in the past. I found some jokes and topics which I found to be repulsive and shocking. I wondered if I was alone in this. I found that I am not but some people are able to look past his controversial jokes and enjoy some of his other material. I acknowledge that he won a court case which proved that The Mirror had erroneously accused him of making racist comments. I am very pleased that he generously gave the proceeds to charity. I still however find his comments about disabled children distasteful and hope that these "jokes" are not broadcast or published.

elizaregina Wed 30-Jan-13 09:49:46

There is a big rascim lobby in this country and they have made thier voice heard thankfully and people think twice about using abusive language.

Unfortunalty the same cant be said for diabled people. I have often wondered where MENCAP and the DSA is when people like Frankie are there speaking about people with LD in a derogatory way.

Its not really about whether you find him funny or not - or whether you can turn on or off. Its about de humanising an extremly vulnerable group of people who do not have equal status or respect in our society = who are quite often the target of vicous attacks in the community - as well as lesser abuse but still harmful non the less. Its about taking the piss to a huge audience - its ok - we can all poke a stick at them - come on - bla bla bla.

Its not ok and it never will be.

I am not sure what some posters mean that he is " as leftie as you can get" - you mean as leftie as STALIN who wanted to kill disabled people and did kill them and killed millions?

blindworm Wed 30-Jan-13 09:58:41

'He is a follower of Noam Chomsky and says that he has had a great influence on his political beliefs, claiming to be more left-wing than Chomsky.' - Taken from his wikipedia page.

ICBINEG Wed 30-Jan-13 10:01:12

Also heard the star wars interview last night...I think people are missing the obvious.

Jenni Murray was basically saying how odd it was that he stands and says vile things and then appears to be sneering at the audience laughing as if repulsed.

That's not odd at all. He is a smart generous person, it is obvious he would hold people laughing at racist, rape or disablist jokes in contempt. The fact that he told the joke is fairly irrelevant.

That is the point of him as far as I can tell. To say out loud the things that are said behind backs and essentially point out how wrong it is to say them at all.

navada Wed 30-Jan-13 10:07:26

Why do people watch & read about people they don't like? & then want to talk about them? < confused >

Cortana Wed 30-Jan-13 10:07:44

"I am not sure what some posters mean that he is " as leftie as you can get" - you mean as leftie as STALIN who wanted to kill disabled people and did kill them and killed millions?"

Yes, that's what leftie means to those on MN. JUST LIKE STALIN! <FROTH>

Agree ICBINEG. I think his mistake has been bringing his comedy to the mainstream.

I read his book and liked it. He seems to be disgusted at society, his upbringing and thoughts on the working classes alongside his descent into drink and drugs and the effect it had on his life. I think he's a very clever disillusioned man who sneers at those who laugh at the face value of his jokes and has nothing but contempt for those who claims to loathe him but give him so many column inches and web hits they've made him a fortune.

Flobbadobs Wed 30-Jan-13 10:08:18

I follow him on Twitter, one of the things he uses it for is to promote other stand up comedians, many of them his support artists on tour. At least one of them has been a disabled comedian.
He's a smart bloke, thats very obvious. He says things, people react to them, many switch on to find out if he's really that bad, discuss it on websites, other people switch on to find out what all the fuss is about...
I personally find Ricky Gervais exceptionally offensive but somehow he gets away with it.

navada Wed 30-Jan-13 10:12:40

Agree cortana - he has almost a million followers on twitter & retweets most of the insults he receives - he just laughs at them ( all the way to the bank )

Lovelygoldboots Wed 30-Jan-13 10:21:59

Yabvu to call him a racist bigot when he successfully sued the daily mirror. If you don't like him don't bloody watch him! I have read his first book and he has some really interesting observations on poverty. There are plenty of comedians out there that people find distasteful or just plain annoying like Michael Macintyre

Cortana Wed 30-Jan-13 10:26:17

Ah Lovely, not many have seen Michael Mcintyre's earlier stuff. Lovely piece he does on disabled bays and how he watches to see if people really need them, and how he feels when he can't spot a disability. If he'd posted it in AIBU he'd be ripped to pieces, yet he seen as tame and inoffensive.

Flobbadobs Wed 30-Jan-13 10:26:36

Forgot to actually answer your point. YABU to call him a despicable human being. It's a (very succesful) stage persona.
And I highly doubt he gets royalties from repeats. Some shows are repeated so often on Dave/Gold etc if the stars got royalties it would bankrupt the business!

jeee Wed 30-Jan-13 10:29:42

I stopped watching MTW when that nice David Mitchell used offensively disabilist (and extremely childish) language. What made it worse was that none of the other right-on comedians pulled him up on it.

But yes, OP, Frankie Boyle is a dispicable human being.

Wallison Wed 30-Jan-13 10:31:42

He, like any good comedian/writer/creative person in general, holds a mirror up to society. Thus you might not always like what you see. I actually think he is a very funny and clever man, and he was brilliant on Mock The Week and even Tramadol Nights.

Even if he is pretty much STALIN.

Lovelygoldboots Wed 30-Jan-13 10:32:34

Cortana I saw him on mtw making jokes about a woman breast feeding on the tube. Cant stand him. ((shudders))

MrsReiver Wed 30-Jan-13 10:40:27

I'm with Flobbadobs and ICBINEG here, I'd rather watch Frankie Boyle than Michael McIntyre or Ricky Gervais, or even Billy Connelly's earlier stuff.

ubik Wed 30-Jan-13 10:40:47

No I think Idi Amin is a despicable human being.

Frankie Boyle is just a comedian. Sometimes he's funny. Sometimes he's not.

I don't know why you have googled him just so you can get even more offended. Are you very bored?

ouryve Wed 30-Jan-13 10:43:06

YANBU.

Vile man.

Ricky Gervaise is a close second in the vileness, but brings himself up level by pretending he's not.

ICBINEG Wed 30-Jan-13 10:43:31

Yup it is all about the mirror to society. It's kinda sad that Jenni didn't get that she actually agreed with Frankie when he was sneering at his audience....

ICBINEG Wed 30-Jan-13 10:44:44

disablist jokes are all around us...but how many column inches proclaiming the wrongness of making jokes about the disabled would have been written without FB and the like slapping the issue front and centre?

blindworm Wed 30-Jan-13 10:44:45

I've only seen The Office, what did Ricky Gervais do that was so bad?

Hammy02 Wed 30-Jan-13 10:50:15

I really like Frankie Boyle. He was easily the funniest person on MTW. I found the Madelaine joke funny too. I find the X Factor offensive as this pretends to be an entertainment program but most people I know enjoy the early auditions when they show the people that clearly have learning disabilities that have no idea how ridiculous they look.

I find him in a similar vein to Brendon Burns (although not as funny). I can understand why people don't like the comedy but the point of it is to be controversial.

ouryve Wed 30-Jan-13 10:57:22

So if FB sneers at people who laugh at his jokes, and sneers at people who don't, who doesn't he sneer at. Sounds pretty misanthropic in general.

The thing that tipped Ricky Gervaise over the edge for me, blindworm was his reaction when he was pulled up for using the word "mong." There's been a few other similar things that have led to me blocking him on Twitter so I don't have to read his re-tweeted crap. I'll not be watching Derek because I have serious doubts about the sincerity of it.

MrsReiver Wed 30-Jan-13 10:58:38

I think Marcus Brigstock makes a good point in this tweet about Frankie Boyle

"He's a blinding comic with an exquisite ability to shape hilarious images with words. Some of which I don't enjoy."

Flobbadobs Wed 30-Jan-13 11:05:52

RG has used the word 'Mong' (sorry) to describe Susan Boyle, made a 'joke' about Anne Frank and frankly The Office was shit.

threesocksmorgan Wed 30-Jan-13 11:09:05

isn't he dead yet....shame

Nancy66 Wed 30-Jan-13 11:10:48

I agree that Ricky G doesn't always come across well in interviews etc but The Office was one of the best things ever seen on TV.

blindworm Wed 30-Jan-13 11:12:26

Yeah, I really liked The Office too. One of my favourites. Not sure how much I like Ricky Gervais on his own though.

Hammy02 Wed 30-Jan-13 11:22:33

I know for a fact that Ricky Gervais doesn't evade tax. More of a measure of a decent person IMO.

Flobbadobs Wed 30-Jan-13 11:27:03

RG also supports animal rights among many other charities, he's still deeply unfunny and arrogant though. I think its the arrogance that puts my back up. He's been told he's hilarious far too many times.

BumBiscuits Wed 30-Jan-13 11:28:53

Arf at Hammy. I'm sure there are plenty tax paying scumbags out there!

imogengladhart Wed 30-Jan-13 11:35:52

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

blindworm Wed 30-Jan-13 11:40:29

His lawyer admitted that you could call his humour vile or offensive.

Flobbadobs Wed 30-Jan-13 11:41:22

Just done some Googling and found an interesting fact. Did you know Barack Obama made a joke about the Paralympics? Or is that different?
articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/21/nation/na-obama-special-olympics21

threesocksmorgan Wed 30-Jan-13 11:54:45

I allways assume the people who like him and RG most would be jim davidson fans as well

FreudiansSlipper Wed 30-Jan-13 11:56:43

wonders if frankie boyle is reading this and sneering

there have been many comedians that outrage, chris rock, larry david, george carlin, billy connolly (not so much now) and richard pryor either you like it or do not but it gets people talking about it and that is often the point

Branleuse Wed 30-Jan-13 11:59:45

I LOVE frankie boyle.

FreudiansSlipper Wed 30-Jan-13 12:00:09

no i am not a jim davidson fan

i get the difference between trying to hold a mirror up to society and laughing at that and expressing vile racist and sexist views

Buddhastic Wed 30-Jan-13 12:05:07

I 'unfollowed' RG due to a 'joke' about a terrorist and paedophiles. There's just some things you don't joke about.

threesocksmorgan Wed 30-Jan-13 12:05:57

so taking the piss out of disabled people is ok, but being racist isn't
how weird

Mehrida Wed 30-Jan-13 12:12:25

Saw FB at the festival before he was famous. It was, and still is, the closest I've ever come to walking out a gig in disgust. I hate his 'jokes' about people with disabilities, paedophiles and poor Rebecca A.

However, he is not racist. Can you find a racist comment from him anywhere or are you assuming that because he's vile he's automatically racist?

As he says himself, he's not ready to be racist yet because he's not finished hating white people.

ICBINEG Wed 30-Jan-13 12:16:49

There is a massive difference (in intent if nothing else) between people day in day out telling rape/racist/disablist jokes and sniggering with their mates and FB doing it in front of millions and so obviously sneering at anyone for laughing.

There is massive good done by hauling these vile opinions out of the dark corners and sticking them in the limelight. I would not watch FB if I thought for one second he actually held any of the opinions the face value of his comedy might suggest he does.

Cherriesarelovely Wed 30-Jan-13 12:20:15

I think he IS trying to be "ironic" but it is still offensive. I have a BIL who is the same, a genuinely nice guy who thinks it is funny to make outrageously racist jokes about my DP when we are out. It's not that he really is racist, he claims he just likes to shock, but to all intents and purposes people who don't know him don't know that and are consequently horrified. My DP and I find it incredibly embarrassing.

Also I do think there are some things that shouldn't be joked about and cannot understand how any jokes about disabled/ill children or missing children can be justified.

I think people have every right to object to FB. Just as we might object to the things spouted by the BNP etc. It is a debate that goes beyond changing channels when he is on.

Cherriesarelovely Wed 30-Jan-13 12:23:21

ICBNEG so the whole point of his telling these very shocking jokes is to sneer at the people who subsequently laugh at them?

So, as a right on FB fan at one of his gigs what are you meant to do?

FreudiansSlipper Wed 30-Jan-13 12:23:46

what Ice says

Jim Davidson hates anyone that is not white

Joan Rivers has joked about her own husbands suicide, 9/11 very soon after not everyone found it funny not everyone is meant too (good clip,of her on YouTube telling a heckler why she jokes about the things she does)

ICBINEG Wed 30-Jan-13 12:24:29

I think the big question is does he do more good than evil by what he does?

Does seeing FB spouting bile make the average gutter lurker feel more bold in expressing their racist/disablist/pro-rape opinions, or does the rain of fire and public discussion of exactly why those opinions are so wrong and offensive give them pause for thought?

I don't know the answer to that. My gut instinct is that I personally find it easier to challenge shit when i encounter it when I know the newspapers are full of outrage about inappropriate comments...

IrnBruChew Wed 30-Jan-13 12:28:10

I find some of his material funny.

I read once that he loves shocking people and that sharp intake of breathe people do when shocked then they laugh knowing its wrong to laugh. Weird way to get your kicks I suppose.

threesocksmorgan Wed 30-Jan-13 12:29:49

I think you are kidding your selves, pretending that he is really a nice misunderstood guy , who actually cares.
the reality is her is a think as shit person, who makes money out of his sick"jokes"
he has no social conscience. he is no different from Jim d and his ilk.

Branleuse Wed 30-Jan-13 12:30:59

frankie boyle isnt racist although i don't think there is anything off limits for being the butt of his jokes. The guys a genius

Cherriesarelovely Wed 30-Jan-13 12:41:05

ICBINEG I do know what you mean and I don't think he or my BIL are racist but some of the jokes he has made at the expense of vulnerable children....well, I just cannot imagine how he thought that would help?? Take his joke about Katie Price's son, when he wrote that joke surely most people would think "I am making a disgusting joke at the expense of a young person whose life is already incredibly challenging and who has no voice with which to defend themselves" not to mention how abhorrent it will be for his family. In what way was he being "clever" there?

ubik Wed 30-Jan-13 12:42:16

I think the difficulty is that we can sit around stroking our chins and agreeing that Frankie Boyke is holding a mirror up to society, that he is merely highlighting the prejudices of his audience who laugh at his jokes and the joke is on the people buying the tickets.

But if you are the parent of a child with Downs Syndrome and you see the audience laughing at the 'joke' then all the intellectual wankery in the world isn't going to make up for the anger and fear for your child that you will experience as a result.

Yes he is highlighting prejudice, but at the same time there is a danger that he is enabling these attitudes.

I remember him remarking that after the smoking ban, every crappy bar in Gladgow has a table and chairs outside, and that parts of the city now resemble Paris after a nuclear war. He can be very funny.

Cherriesarelovely Wed 30-Jan-13 12:44:31

Yes ubik that pretty much sums it up.

EuroShopperEnergyDrink Wed 30-Jan-13 12:45:09

He's not a bloody misunderstood guy- you're just clearly not clever enough to get it if you take things at face value. He is holding up a dark dirty mirror to society and mocking racist, homophobic and sexist beliefs.

In regards to the mirror case- which none of the anti-Frankie Boyle brigade seems to know what it was about...the Mirror used one of his jokes to associate him as a racist in one of their stories.

The joke was MTW 'Things you wouldn't hear in a government department'

FB - 'Hello, Ministry of Defence? This is the department of n*gger bombing!'

Anyone with a brain can see that that's social commentary on our imperalist society, that has throughout history exploited people of colour all over the world. It was actually lifted from a direct quote from a minister whose name escapes me. If you genuinely think it means that he wants to bomb black people, just shoot yourself- now. Please.

EuroShopperEnergyDrink Wed 30-Jan-13 12:47:38

The only thing I will say is- that it's dangerous when people don't see it as a social commentary, which breeds the UniLad and other low humoured groups where people try and be as funny as possible. Some people aren't mature enough to not take it at face value- that goes for those who seem to think that FB is rapist who hates disabled people, and those who think the act of raping and disabled people are funny.

That's why I'd be very concerned about a young teenager watching it. It's a mature, sick breed of humour that needs to be understood to be truly found funny.

threesocksmorgan Wed 30-Jan-13 12:54:23

really so I am not clever enough to get it (pmsl) so how clever do you have to be to make jokes about disabled people????

Cherriesarelovely Wed 30-Jan-13 12:54:51

No Euro many of us do "get it" but we are still questioning whether his approach is useful or whether it unfortunately validates the veiws of people who don't realise that he is being ironic. Plus it does not explain all his offensive material. Not to say that at other times he isn't extremely clever and funny but unfortunately for me the vile "jokes"about children with disabilities are reason enough not to watch him again

LucilleBluth Wed 30-Jan-13 13:12:31

EuroShopperEnergyDrink absolutely agree.

It's quite frightening and sad that people don't see the inner workings of what he does. I find him funny, I have cringed and closed my eyes during some of his stuff but I understand that I'm not just watching a guy spouting hatred for the sake of it, another similar comedian is Louis CK, I love him and how he defends his use of the word faggot......not that I would ever use it of course but it is very funny.

ICBINEG Wed 30-Jan-13 13:17:03

Oh there is definitely value in debating whether or not his method is effective or too exploitative etc. But starting off from he is a vile sick person really is silly. He clearly isn't.

I do feel maybe there is a better way than taking a pop at a child with severe disabilities. On the other hand if taking that pop stops my neighbours child with severe disabilities from getting so much abuse on the streets then it's a tough call. The child and family he insulted was possibly better able to defend themselves and bear it than the vast vast majority of families and children in such positions.

Gah I really don't know. I know I couldn't do what FB does, I have tried the odd ironic "yeah coz all students of race <x> behave in stereotype way <y>" when colleagues have strayed off piste over coffee and it has 100% hit rate of causing them to knock it off but about a 50% hit rate of being told to remove the stick up my ass....

JennyPiccolo Wed 30-Jan-13 13:27:35

There's a Frankie Boyle thread about once a fortnight these days. I quite like him. He does write for other comedians so you should maybe check, if you hate him, that you haven't been laughing at his jokes all along.

ouryve Wed 30-Jan-13 13:49:01

I thought the office was genius, until it became clear that he wasn't really acting in it.

Wallison Wed 30-Jan-13 14:58:12

EuroShopper, I think that people had the same reservations about the Alf Garnett character. We can now, in these more supposedly 'enlightened' times, look at it as a brilliant piece of social satire. But at the time there were people who thought he was telling it like it is for the honest everyday workers etc. and so there were also worries that such folk didn't get the joke and just saw it as validation for their own views.

KirstyoffEastenders Wed 30-Jan-13 15:03:58

I love Frankie, especially when he offends the confused.

DontEvenThinkAboutIt Wed 30-Jan-13 15:32:19

I am curious to know if anyone thinks the 'joke' about Katy Price's disabled son was not offensive?

I think it was disgusting and nasty and I can't believe anyone thinks otherwiseconfused

Yes Frankie is clever and yes he can be funny but that 'joke' among many others was really nasty. I watched it when it was first aired and was stunned as soon as I heard it. I was expecting Frankie to push boundries and make me cringe a bit but I didn't ever expect to hear a disgusting joke about a disabled child. sad

He has never even apologised for saying it.

BumBiscuits Wed 30-Jan-13 15:39:15

IMO the Harvey gag was not about Harvey, it was about his mother. It would have never happened if she wasn't so keen to whore her kids in particular one with SN to the media.

DontEvenThinkAboutIt Wed 30-Jan-13 15:42:26

BumBiscuits. So you think the joke about Harvey was OK then?

AnyFucker Wed 30-Jan-13 15:50:07

I am not going to reproduce it here, because it is vile

But the "jokes" about Harvey are not funny, not even in a dark and ironic way

If anyone has forgotten them, they are on his Wiki page

BumBiscuits Wed 30-Jan-13 15:50:26

I see it for what it is. I like Frankie Boyle but that doesn't I find each and every thing he's says is funny. I'm not offended by that joke, even slightly, however.

AnyFucker Wed 30-Jan-13 15:51:04

BumB, a particular "joke" he made was about Harvey, not Katie Price.

JennyPiccolo Wed 30-Jan-13 15:51:07

The joke was about the two aspects of the Katie Price 'brand' that she has sold to get where she is. Her sexuality and her children, in particular her special needs child. More or less every story covering Katie price mentions these two things, but obviously not together, like Frankie Boyle did. The point is, that it's ok for price to endlessly flog these two aspects of her life, but it's not ok for someone to joke about it.

I didn't find it a particularly funny joke, but I got it.

I think in a way it's done Boyle a service to be cut from mainstream telly. His humour seems much sharper these days.

BumBiscuits Wed 30-Jan-13 15:52:48

Meant to add that Katie Price/Jordan's exploitation of her kids (and Peter Andre and others like them) bothers me much, much more than words uttered by a comedian.

threesocksmorgan Wed 30-Jan-13 15:53:05

so making jokes about disabled children is clever??
naming the child is ok if his mum is deemed bad.

really are people that thick.
dress it up how you like, try to defend the it how you like, try and make your self fill better as you laugh as his 'jokes"
but the truth is he is a bully, no better than the one in the street or school.
he is a not clever. if he was I am sure he would not need to make "jokes" about disabled people

BumBiscuits Wed 30-Jan-13 15:54:59

I disagree anyfucker .

I've seen the joke on telly and at a live gig and I'm happy with my interpretation of it, thanks.

AnyFucker Wed 30-Jan-13 15:57:15

I don't like celeb's exploitation of their kids either. It still doesn't make what he said right, or OK. BumB, are we talking about the same "joke" ?

MrsReiver Wed 30-Jan-13 15:59:00

I found Heat's "Harvey's going to eat me" stickers much, much more offensive.

BumBiscuits Wed 30-Jan-13 15:59:07

Yawn, yes.

LottieJenkins Wed 30-Jan-13 16:00:48

If i see any of (i will not print his name)'s books i either turn them over or cover them with other books!

threesocksmorgan Wed 30-Jan-13 16:01:11

they are all vile, the mother, heats jokes, but it doesn't make FB alright cos he made a joke about a severely disabled * child* by name.
what kind of thug thinks that is ok

DontEvenThinkAboutIt Wed 30-Jan-13 16:03:02

I am stunned that anyone can defend the Harvey joke, absolutely stunned. I don't care who it involves but 'jokes' about a named child having to restrained from raping someone is very, very sick.

I don't think much of Katie Price who does but I think it is great to see a child with disabilities getting airtime. Much better than hiding him away. sad

andubelievedthat Wed 30-Jan-13 16:25:18

and on the 7th day , the lord said" thou shall not tune into/find f.b (comedien) jokes funny, go on mumsnet and moan like fuck," because that is all , yes all, you will do.

Flobbadobs Wed 30-Jan-13 16:48:38

The joke about Harvey was vile and unnecessary, ironic or not, as are some of his other jokes. However alot of his observational stuff is sharp and clever, an awful lot of the funniest bits of MTW are his.
However labelling him a despicable human being is OTT. Do we label every single comedian who passes comments designed to offend the same way? Journalists? How about politicians? Barack Obama? I posted a link further down to the LA Times site detailing a comment made by the President on the Jay Leno show. Anyone click on it? I found that rather offensive as well as brainless. Is he despicable?
Or, as I asked before, is it different?

blindworm Wed 30-Jan-13 16:56:53

I read it, Flobbadobs. I don't see why people are objecting to Frankie Boyle making disability jokes and not Obama making Special Olympics jokes.

threesocksmorgan Wed 30-Jan-13 16:58:39

he is despicable. I doubt if he will care, the money rolls in , thick people laugh at jis unfunny jokes. he won't care

threesocksmorgan Wed 30-Jan-13 16:59:29

blindworm well for me it is as this thread is about FB not Obama

blindworm Wed 30-Jan-13 17:02:50

Did you read what Obama said? Did you think that was alright?

threesocksmorgan Wed 30-Jan-13 17:28:43

no havn't read it as I was talking about FB. that is what the thread is about I am quite sure going by what people have said, if I did read it I would calling Obama despicable..but I am not going to read something that will make me feel like shit thanks.

Branleuse Wed 30-Jan-13 22:36:09

the joke about Harvey was funny in the context of the whole show

DontEvenThinkAboutIt Wed 30-Jan-13 22:57:37

Branleuse. Which bit did you find funny, the bit where FB joked about his parents not wanting him or the bit where he joked about him having to be restrained so he doesnt rape his Mother?

I am glad you had a good chuckle about it. Perhaps, when Harveys brother and sister get to read about what FB said about their brother they can be comforted by the fact the joke was enjoyed by some people. In fact, I am sure they won't mind at all. confused hmm

Cherriesarelovely Wed 30-Jan-13 23:30:07

Have read some very interesting posts onthis thread and do understand the argument against censorship and FBs desire to shock through being edgy and ironic. Nothing I've read though explains why his joke about Harvey was clever or funny? Same for his later comments about Madeleine Mcann. Are people really arguing that disabled people are better off because of this kind of "humour"? I really don't see how?

Allthenamesiwantaretaken Thu 31-Jan-13 00:39:35

Sometimes I find him funny and sometimes I don't. About 4 yrs ago I met his long term mistress at a wedding, he had just finished with her and she was upset, I believe he had a wife and child at the time, not sure if he still does. I guess that makes him not very nice in real life too.

SolidSnake Thu 31-Jan-13 01:29:20

Successfully suing a newspaper for calling you racist means nothing! Morrissey successfully sued NME for calling him racist, you know, the same Morrissey who called Chinese people a 'sub species'

ComposHat Thu 31-Jan-13 01:30:52

I am all for comedians challenging taboos, slaughtering holy cows, dealing with difficult topics or being offensive to make a point.

However Frankie Boyle doesn't do that. He's a multimillionaire comedian who rakes it in from writing for the Sun and playing corporate gigs, taking the piss out of children with disabilities, rape victims and gypsies. This is hardly the work of Lenny Bruce,

He's a shit and lazy comedian who goes for the softest and most powerless targets he can find, then cowers behind the defence of irony whilst revelling in the stale shock he's generated.

He has no act as such, no structure and his delivery is appalling. In a way he is playing it very safe and doesn't challenge his audience's expectations of him, giving them seemingly endless variations on his 'this terrible thing happened and I had a wank over it' gag, which the brainless bastards lap up.

ComposHat Thu 31-Jan-13 02:04:24

Successfully suing a newspaper for calling you racist means nothing!

solidsnake As much as I hate his act, I don't think the racism claim has any substance to it. The Mirror calling him a racist was based on his use of the word Paki. which appeared in this routine about the reporting of the Afghan war -

"What gets me is our callousness as a society when we read out our dead on the news first, because our lives are more important. Other people's aren't worth as much."

He puts on a newsreader voice - "A bomb went off in Kandahar today, killing two British servicemen, three UN relief workers and a whole bunch of Pakis."

Whilst it is not an original observation or a good joke, his use of Paki is to satirise the perceived bias and racism in news reports.

Still don't rate him or like his act though

Zingy123 Thu 31-Jan-13 08:25:17

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264725/Frankie-Boyle-Downs-syndrome-jokes-provoke-victims-mother.html

Vile, vile man. He also has no manners on MTW he always pushes in to get his turn.

MrsReiver Thu 31-Jan-13 10:09:14

He also has no manners on MTW he always pushes in to get his turn.

From what I've heard about MTW, every comedian on the show is like that, that's why some only do it once and never go back, or refuse to go on it at all.

ComposHat Thu 31-Jan-13 11:18:44

They shouldn't mock the week, they should try mocking the powerful instead.

LaQueen Thu 31-Jan-13 11:42:02

I find him funny. I think he is incredibly gifted at blisteringly fast, put downs and rapier-accurate observation.

I don't think he suffers fools, gladly for one second, either - and I would have thought that people would realise that he is deliberately cuttingly audacious as part of his Act, and it is his stage-persona.

Some people find Miranda hilarious (personally I would rather drink bleach), but hey ho...

But, again it's all a carefully crafted Act - she is far, far more sarcastic and quite cutting IRL.

Nancy66 Thu 31-Jan-13 11:49:37

I agree with LaQueen - it's an act. It's performance.

It's no more real than something you'd see in EastEnders.

Some of the best comedy comes from the darkest places and I don't think people should be told what they can and can't find funny.

Fanjounchained Thu 31-Jan-13 19:29:08

As a result of this post I've actually looked at some of his tweets and he is funny sometimes. But I just don't "get" the downs syndrome, paedophile, M McCann jokes...also what's with all the male rape jokes (or has he down these about women too, if so I may have missed them).

I can see what he was doing using the work "paki" in the joke outlined above but what cause is he championing or point is he making when he makes fun of disabled children ? And I appreciate that people have the right to laugh at this if they want to...free country and all that...but what the f**k does that say about you if you find jokes funny ?

Fanjounchained Thu 31-Jan-13 19:29:58

should have said if you find "these" jokes funny...

'I agree with LaQueen - it's an act. It's performance'

Fair enough, but can you explain what it is you find funny about someone acting like a disablist person?

elizaregina Thu 31-Jan-13 20:14:56

I just see my beautiful innocent sweet brothers face - and then frankies snarling vicous mug = it makes me feel sick.

thezebrawearspurple Thu 31-Jan-13 22:36:35

He is very funny, I've been to a couple of his shows and he always has the audience in fits of laughter. Some people take him too seriously, he's a comedian, not a college lecturer. You have to take his jokes in context (and as jokes). Wishing death on someone because you don't like or get his humour (as some here have done) is ridiculous and far more extreme than anything he has been accused of.

MiniEggsinJanuary Thu 31-Jan-13 23:47:51

"I think the people who find Frankie Boyle's jokes acceptable or even funny must be unbelievably thick. I bet their families are all really stupid and ugly as well. In fact, I reckon they're so stupid that they think that if someone says something cruel and viciously heinous, but it's all in the name of Art, they think it's just fine. "

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, I hope no one was offended by that. It's all just part of my act.

Why is it so difficult to understand? Whatever his pretence, he still articulates these ideas and consequentlly makes them a potentially legitimate mindset. It is simply not acceptable to articulate some ideas in the media or public. I didn't believe all of what was typed above but it's still there on the page. Some people will have been offended by it. Some people will be too thick skinned to care.

Nancy66 Thu 31-Jan-13 23:59:31

When the Jimmy Savile story broke there were loads of jokes doing the rounds - some were very funny. Same with Michael Jackson.

It doesn't make child abuse any less abhorent to me, it doesn't mean I am any less glad that both Jackson and Savile are dead.

...they were jokes. They were funny. I can separate comedy from reality.

blindworm Fri 01-Feb-13 00:14:43

I like some of his jokes but not others. I laugh at the satirical jokes, like the 'racist' one outlined above, but I didn't think his Harvey joke was funny. He can be both, can't he?

fridgepants Fri 01-Feb-13 00:24:04

I'm surprised Reg D Hunter is a TV fixture - when I saw him pre-telly, his act was very very edgy, with a lot of racial humour (clever stuff, and done by a black guy about being black rather than Jim Davidson style) that many would probably find offensive. I remember thinking he was hilarious but would never work on the box.

Perhaps the difference is that he can adapt his act/persona in a way that FB can't.

I have a mental health disability and I find Gervais's 'flirting' with the mentally impared dubious at best.

DontEvenThinkAboutIt Fri 01-Feb-13 08:51:34

I really liked Reginald D Hunter on the TV but, last year,when we saw him live he wasn't very funny at all. He wasn't edgy at all. [Sad]

BumBiscuits Fri 01-Feb-13 16:04:54

I fancy really like Reg D Hunter. However, I dozed off at his gig last time I saw him. I blame it on the red wine and antihistamines his lovely voice.

I think this thread shows that you can't control what/who makes you laugh any more than you can control what offends you.

I didn't appreciate the show Derek one bit when it was on the other night, and switched over after a few minutes, yet it is getting great reviews on another thread (in Chat I think).

I used to really like John Bishop and met him when he was still doing the stand-up circuits, lovely bloke. I now find him tedious bordering on misogyny at times. Though not offensive.

discotequewreck Fri 01-Feb-13 17:06:57

If you don't get Frankie Boyle, well maybe you never will.

My interpretation is that he hates the bread and circuses dumb celebrity culture that gets fed to us everyday. I actually think he is quite clever and not disablist, racist or sexist.

He quite often promotes feminist comedians on his shows and makes some moving observations about how messed up the world is.

Ever watched Bill Hicks? Similar style I think.

If you're getting in a twist about Frankie Boyle rather than the corporate psychopaths who destroy, marginalise and ruin people everyday then I fear hope is lost.

discotequewreck Fri 01-Feb-13 17:09:55

What Jordan does to her kids is far worse than any joke FB has made.

The very symbol of why celebrity culture is so rotten.

Smudging Fri 01-Feb-13 17:16:21

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discotequewreck Fri 01-Feb-13 17:23:43

Erm no, if the viewing public were clever he wouldn't have to resort to shock tactics.

LaQueen Fri 01-Feb-13 18:08:37

I think he despises the namby-pampy, dumbed-down, Greggs Sausage Roll Opium For The Masses, sleb-culture shite that has pervaded the media - and that caters for the dumb and dumber who enjoy watching Repeat Reality TV where no-hopes, you don't know and will never meet, shed a staged tear and warble a harmony, wearing false eyelashes that are bigger then their IQs...

Smudging Fri 01-Feb-13 18:15:30

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ophelia275 Fri 01-Feb-13 18:17:04

YANBU. He is a shitbag and the epitome that is all that is wrong with society. And that he gets paid to be a shitbag is even worse.

ophelia275 Fri 01-Feb-13 18:20:27

People think he isn't racist just because some judge says so. It's blatantly clear he hates everyone, including himself!

BumBiscuits Fri 01-Feb-13 18:54:17

Frankie Boyle is not a racist. I know that because I can't fucking stand racists. After several years of following Frankie and going to his gigs I still think he's great.

discotequewreck Fri 01-Feb-13 19:13:27

Absolutely LaQueen!

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