to feel insulted by the availability of a ginger gene test

(52 Posts)
HariboAndWine Tue 29-Jan-13 17:40:05

As a redhead I find the whole idea of this test incredibly insulting and offensive. I wouldn't change a single hair on the heads of my beautiful redheaded daughters either. The suggestion that one of the most defining physical features of myself and my beautiful girls is in some way a defect makes me envy envy envy

oddslippers Tue 29-Jan-13 17:42:12

shock

HecateWhoopass Tue 29-Jan-13 17:42:18

Is there a link?
I know physical characteristics are genetic and can therefore be identified but are you saying this test is available so people can decide to not have a child?

lashingsofbingeinghere Tue 29-Jan-13 17:48:45

Meh, it's a test for parents to see if they have one of the genetic variants that might lead to a red headed baby. here

Why? Do you honestly think people who carry the gene will decide not to have children because of it? If they do then they are probably too ignorant to make good parents anyway.

We wanted a red head smile Looks like DH may not have the gene though as I only have red genes and neither kid was blessed with red.

YorkshireDeb Tue 29-Jan-13 17:54:52

YANBU. I would far rather have beautiful red hair than my boring 'mousey' shade. I would be thrilled if my children had red hair & can see why you would find this test offensive. X

LegoAcupuncture Tue 29-Jan-13 17:56:11

YANBU! I have two children with beautiful red hair, it wouldn't have even crossed my mind to have a test. Ds3 otoh does not have red hair, much to his disappointment.

This reminds me of the scene in glee where Emma describes her parents as ginger supremacists LOL

HariboAndWine Tue 29-Jan-13 17:59:35

I am well aware that i may be overreacting! Perhaps my hackles have been raised by people who think it acceptable to make comments such as 'never mind, perhaps it will get darker as she gets older' and 'at least she is a girl with that colour'. I even had people ask if i was 'worried about the hair.colour' when i was pregnant.

Oblomov Tue 29-Jan-13 18:03:06

Ginger ds2 was a surprise. I don't see that this test is offensive. If you have no interest in having such a test done, then this is no problem. If there are some people that would like to have the test done, this is also fine. I don't see what the issue is.

Catchingmockingbirds Tue 29-Jan-13 18:04:50

My cousin is a ginger, I'm really jealous as her hair is such a beautiful colour. I find it quite strange that people would pay for a genetic test for hair colour, and then what, chose not to have children if it's shown that they may be red heads? hmm

Osmiornica Tue 29-Jan-13 18:05:10

I don't understand why anyone would bother doing this. What are they going to do with the information? There's a family near me who's children have the most beautiful red hair envy.

exexpat Tue 29-Jan-13 18:05:20

I was carrot-topped as a child, but it later faded to what I gather I'm supposed to call 'strawberry blonde'. I really, really wanted a daughter with long curly red hair like one of my cousins; DD does indeed have long curly hair, but you can only see the glints of red in certain lights. I really can't imagine how any parent could be so prejudiced as to not want a child with red hair.

Speaking of which - this should be compulsory viewing: Prejudice

WowOoo Tue 29-Jan-13 18:07:11

I feel quite shocked by it.

Is it actually something that people would test for? Anyone who'd use a test like that would be an arse.

Vive la difference..

WorraLiberty Tue 29-Jan-13 18:10:14

These threads always tend turn into a Ginger-off where people try to go 'one up' on how much they adore ginger hair grin

By the end of it, someone will have built a shrine to Chris Evans and Mick Hucknall in their front garden, just to prove they love the hair colour more than anyone else in the entire history of Mumsnet.

But YANBU, I heard about this test the other day and was totally gobsmacked confused

Herrena Tue 29-Jan-13 18:10:15

exexpat - I was just about to link to that!!

If people want to find out their dismal genetic fate (i.e. that they will probably not have lovely ginger offspring) then meh, let them.

My ginger sister, son and myself salute you smile

shockers Tue 29-Jan-13 18:13:56

The issue is that some people would want to abort a baby because they dislike the colour his/her hair could be.... I hope this isn't real because it's utterly vile and is telling people/children with ginger hair that they are undesirable within our society.

Locketjuice Tue 29-Jan-13 18:14:35

My friend had her lb I called to congratulate her, she said he's ginger and 'why did I have to have a fucking ginge! Just my luck' as a red head myself I thought it was disgusting she acted like he had just had shit plastered over him!

shockers Tue 29-Jan-13 18:15:09

And I speak as a proud ginger!

IndridCold Tue 29-Jan-13 18:17:42

YANBU!

In my family it was my DB who got the red hair, and I was envy because my mum was always being complimented for it.

When did this anti ginger thing start? When I was at school in the dark ages we admired and envied the red headed girls, who all had much more interesting hair than everyone else.

mademred Tue 29-Jan-13 18:17:55

Yanbu, im a red head.it is insultive.those people that don't want ginger kids should not procreate atall then.im the youngest of six kids, and the only redhead my parents had.i have five children and am dissappointed that I didn't have one with ginger hair, but I love them equally, and wouldn't have not had a child because it was going to be dark haired or blonde.redheads are passionate and firey.i was bullied all thru school because of my hair.

TheLightPassenger Tue 29-Jan-13 18:19:33

yanbu. Doesn't seem the best use of medical research, if the gene just identifies hair colouring rather than has any other health implications.

FlorriesDragons Tue 29-Jan-13 18:26:57

grin

KatyTheCleaningLady Tue 29-Jan-13 18:29:23

When I read about this, it never occurred to me that someone would use it to avoid having redheaded children. I thought it was just a curiosity thing.

But, the whole ginger thing is weird to Americans. We don't get it.

Montybojangles Tue 29-Jan-13 18:30:00

They will offer it as people are dumb enough to cough up for the test, so kerching! I believe the companies offering it are discussing being a red head as a positive thing, rather than a negative.
www.myredhairgene.com/page3/page3.html

Narked Tue 29-Jan-13 18:31:39

'By the end of it, someone will have built a shrine to Chris Evans and Mick Hucknall in their front garden, just to prove they love the hair colour more than anyone else in the entire history of Mumsnet'

grin

PictureMeInThese Tue 29-Jan-13 18:34:16

Why would you want that test? Who would take it? And what would you do with that information? <mind boggles>

lovetomoan Tue 29-Jan-13 18:38:32

YANBU
At the same time, I don't think someone would choose to have an abortion because of that.

I also don't get the 'whole ginger thing' here.

Have 2 redhaired cousins and they had lots of girlfriend because of it not in the UK

BoringSchoolChoiceNickname Tue 29-Jan-13 18:39:31

It's occasionally handy for cops with random DNA evidence. They dream of a test that can feed in a drop of blood and output a definitive photo fit image, but at the mo they can't get much further than ginger/not ginger.

wigglybeezer Tue 29-Jan-13 18:43:19

I assumed it was so that people could avoid mating with a ginger gene carrier if they really wanted to avoid a redheaded baby. I can just see dating website profiles with "tested ginger gene free" on them smile.

HariboAndWine Tue 29-Jan-13 18:44:05

worra i splurted tea everywhere reading that! My hair colour is also called 'strawberry blonde' by most but in a way that suggests people feel I would be insulted by 'ginger'. Sadly I possibly would be, such is the negativity attached to the word. I used to hate my hair as a child but as I have grown up have come to appreciate the uniqueness of it. shock shock shock at the mother horrified by her own ginger baby!

wigglybeezer Tue 29-Jan-13 18:45:38

I have a picture of one of my redheaded DS's on my profile ready for when one of these threads pops up (as it regularly does). I am happy to encourage ginger worship!

oldebaglady Tue 29-Jan-13 18:48:10

its not a test to find out if a baby you are carrying will have red hair

it's a saliva test to find out if YOU have recessive ginger genes - so a bit of fun really - how could that be applied to people having abortions?

FWIW I kinda hoped I'd have ginger kids but I guess my other half doesn't have any of those recessive ginger genes so my ginger genes (others in my family have fab red hair, but not me!) didn't get a chance to shine! Oh well!

ErikNorseman Tue 29-Jan-13 18:49:17

It isn't a test in utero is it?

stubbornstains Tue 29-Jan-13 18:49:49

Surely more likely to be used by those actively seeking gingers to procreate with or is that just me?

HariboAndWine Tue 29-Jan-13 18:55:52

No erik it is to test whether you possess the 'ginger gene'. It is difficult to see how this would be of use to anyone!

iloveeverton Tue 29-Jan-13 18:56:46

YANBU

My dh is a redhead who is a double of Damian Lewis smile

We had hoped for a ginger DD, but she is blonde. We can't be the only people to see it as a positive.

babybarrister Tue 29-Jan-13 19:05:01

I don't want to be pursued to weirdo redhead fanciers who have taken the test and now want to ensure the continuance of the redhead racegringringrin speaking as a fellow ginga who has experienced serial redhead daters ....hmm

I have red hair 3 of my 5 children have red hair. Im not really insulted by it - I cant understand why you would care but tbh if people really would base the choice to have children on this they may be better off remaning childless anyway - it would be beyond pathetic to chose not to have a child based on the fact it may be ginger!

MamaBear17 Tue 29-Jan-13 19:17:00

YANBU

ratspeaker Tue 29-Jan-13 19:28:47

The saliva test to see if you are a carrier of one of the red head gene has been around for a while. Not sure why there's a fuss about it now.


Im not paying a load of dosh to find out what I already know.

Go and crack a chalk-board over the head of whoever is responsible ;)

As a ginger myself (although becoming increasingly auburn in my old age) I harbour a secret, fervent desire to breed more little gingers, so actually I would be tempted to take this test to see if I'm in for a shot!

Embarrassingly, in the early days of our relationship, I secretly made replicas of myself and DH in The Sims 2 just to see what the children looked like. Alas, all 12 of them inherited DH's soot-black hair, after which I grew bored of simulated breeding...

LivingInAPinkBauble Tue 29-Jan-13 19:38:23

Wigglybeazer your children are utterly gorgeous! I would love a red haired child, it does run in my family but doesn't seem to in DH's sad

wigglybeezer Tue 29-Jan-13 19:57:53

Thank you for the admiration, DS2 is no longer a small elfin child with long hair but a tall lanky 12 year old with a sensible haircut. My boys have had surprisingly little ginger abuse really, less than I did anyway, but ti is quite common where we live so they don't stand out so much.

wigglybeezer Tue 29-Jan-13 20:00:02

Baby barrister there are definitely men who have a thing for redheads, DH has a thing redheads but I was the first and i think he imprinted on me.

mrsbunnylove Tue 29-Jan-13 20:02:19

i was brought up to believe that red hair is the very best colour, and that natural red lights in your hair are much to be admired.

and that by grandparents whose menfolk had black hair and bright red beards.

BridgetBidet Tue 29-Jan-13 20:04:11

It's an anti-Celtic thing isn't it? That's why the yanks don't get it, it's just Anglo-Saxon discrimination against the Celts. Like racism for before there was racism.

LucilleBluth Tue 29-Jan-13 20:07:56

I am so proud of my ginger toddler. I have mousey brown hair that I have highlighted for as long as I can remember, DH is mousey also.....my 2yo DD has the most beautiful curly red hair, people love it as do I.......she hasn't had any negative comments yet but I will make sure she is fully prepared for it.

Mumsyblouse Tue 29-Jan-13 20:26:18

This test isn't going to tell you very much, all it shows is whether you have one of three variants in a particular ginger gene, and given that 40% of the population have it, that's nearly a 1 in 2 chance.

Then, you need to find out if the partner also has it (fancy asking your new man to take that test then?!)

If you both have it, then you only have a 1 in 4 chance of having a ginger baby anyway!

So, it's more of a fun thing, I wouldn't bother with the test, I don't want to know if I'm related to American Indians either.

lovelyladuree Tue 29-Jan-13 21:25:30

Hitler included gingers in his plan for the master race. Speaker as a ginger, married to a ginger, whose DD is ginger, I quite like the fact we are going to take over the world one day. Fuck 'em all. We fucking rule.

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