AIBU to despise racist old people and wish I could tell them so

(39 Posts)
theykillhorses Tue 29-Jan-13 12:02:59

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LadyBeagleEyes Tue 29-Jan-13 12:06:11

Do you prefer racist young people then Op?
I don't like either, but I don't like ageism either,

Catchingmockingbirds Tue 29-Jan-13 12:06:55


Nancy66 Tue 29-Jan-13 12:08:08

I have had this a few times with taxi drivers - london black cab drivers in particular.

I usually just say 'I don't share your views so it's probably best we don't have this conversation' and that usually shuts them up.

AnyFucker Tue 29-Jan-13 12:09:43

Why can't you tell them to STFU ?

It isn't against the law to put someone in their place.

theykillhorses Tue 29-Jan-13 12:11:05

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theykillhorses Tue 29-Jan-13 12:12:16

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Jins Tue 29-Jan-13 12:12:21

I hate racists of any age but its the younger ones that wind me up more because they should know better

Fakebook Tue 29-Jan-13 12:12:27

If your partner is black or Asian, then I don't understand why you didn't voice your opinion a bit louder earlier or just walk away? confused did your Mum teach you to listen to racist and bigoted views quietly without saying "that's wrong" too? Something like that would have pissed me off a lot. No point in coming here and ranting about it.

WorraLiberty Tue 29-Jan-13 12:14:40

Oh the irony...I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the ageism given the subject.

PeppermintPasty Tue 29-Jan-13 12:15:09

If they have a rude manner then I'm afraid I am rude back.

If they are "polite", but are still peddling racist crap I am still rude back, but I use a softer voice grin

Seriously, old or young, give it to them with full force.

BerryChristmas Tue 29-Jan-13 12:17:10

It was his opinion. He is entitled to it. If you don't like it then walk away.

PeppermintPasty Tue 29-Jan-13 12:17:18

And I usually find that a loud "What a LOAD of rubbish" stops all of 'em in their tracks. You can then fill the space with your non racist agenda. Try it, it works wink

Jins Tue 29-Jan-13 12:18:37

Too many people walk away from racism

More people should challenge it

theykillhorses Tue 29-Jan-13 12:18:55

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AnyFucker Tue 29-Jan-13 12:19:06

I think there is every point in coming here to rant about it, if it helps you to speak up next time

Childhood indoctrination to "respect your elders" is a difficult social more to overcome. Don't think twice though, OP. Racism is despicable, no matter what age group is spouting it.

theykillhorses Tue 29-Jan-13 12:24:35

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AnyFucker Tue 29-Jan-13 12:28:48

Don't beat yourself up too much, love

it is doubtful you would have had much impact on his views if there were very entrenched, after all

You didn't let your kids down. That racist let himself down x

adeucalione Tue 29-Jan-13 12:33:31

I agree that racism should always be challenged, but people rarely react well to being told they're wrong.

Generally they either don't believe you, or they inwardly admit that you have a point but outwardly get defensive.

It's not often that someone, when challenged, will admit you are right and change their mind.

Unfortunately the older generation often do hold racist views - they are of a different era, when racist sit coms were must-see tv and racist comedians had sell-out tours.

Smile and mention the positive elements of multiculturalism ad nauseum - I am well versed, having several older racists in my family unfortunately.

manicinsomniac Tue 29-Jan-13 12:34:29

I don't think this is that ageist - there are more racist older people because the views were more mainstream when they were younger and some people haven't changed their opinions.

I've never met a racist person my age and very few of my parents age but loads of my grandparents age. I just try not to think of them as racist because it is how they were brought up and is normal for them.

RuleBritannia Tue 29-Jan-13 12:37:51

We have to remember that older people (75+) remember what this country was like not only before immigration became a headache but how they could play in fields that are now housing estates, how they could play in the street but not now because of the amount of traffic, how they could have a clip round the ear from a policeman for a naughty deed (eg scrumping) rather than be hauled up in court. They remember how a bus fare was 1d or 2d (I remember that) and how churches were full on Sundays. They remember how to cut their cloth according to their means and never borrowed money. People were frowned upon if they owed money (mortgages excepted).

They remember leaving school at 14 or 15 and were able to read and write properly with neat handwriting that others could read. Their spelling was excellent, too.

The man was just airing an opinion about how, in many ways, life is remembered as being better.

AmberLeaf Tue 29-Jan-13 12:41:17

If he is working he isn't that old.

Yes you should have challenged him.

If your children are mixed race then it is even more important to challenge racism.

PeppermintPasty Tue 29-Jan-13 12:42:17

There is a difference between a full on racist rant, as the OP describes, and a nice nostalgic trip down memory lane fgs!

AmberLeaf Tue 29-Jan-13 12:42:27

RuleBrittania. What a load of old bollocks!

FlouncingMintyy Tue 29-Jan-13 12:42:58

BerryChristmas - exactly why should anyone "walk away" from another person spouting racist shite? What nonsense.

You should say something "I find your views racist and offensive" - that's the brave and correct thing to do. Granted it is very difficult if the person is of an older generation and I understand op's difficulty.

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