full moon

(55 Posts)
duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 18:41:18

Does anyone else become a moody, mad, irrational, irritable, man hating, short tempered, bloated, angry bitch when it is a full moon - not realising it is a full moon - and then cry, shout and be totally miserable? Then realise it happens around full moon?

I know in hosp having my babies there were more born, wards were busier and more heightened emotions around full moon but Im not sure if this is a midlife crisis, Im knackered or its just the flipping moon? Anyone else??

HollyBerryBush Sun 27-Jan-13 18:50:43

Moon = luna = 'loony' = insane.

Check the papers, more murders happen round the full moon, rise in violent crime etc

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 18:58:15

Thank you HBB, I have heard the lunacy thing - but Im just a tubby housewife with a bunch of kids. Is there some kind of antidote/remedy? I mean Im not going to push them all under a bus or kill Himself, but the tears stream down my face and I am not rational - though I do realise it isn't the time to make decisions/drive and I have mentioned it to friends and they just look puzzled. Wouldn't a doc think I was bonkers to go saying "the moon makes me feel awful?" I don't particularly expect to be taken seriously, but this just keeps happening....

WowOoo Sun 27-Jan-13 19:00:29

Yes. I actually just noticed the moon and then thought it's no wonder I've been slightly unhinged and snappy.

Or it's actually all dh's fault and moon is coincidence!

AViewfromtheFridge Sun 27-Jan-13 19:04:12

I'm a teacher, and can always tell when it's a full moon by the way the kids behave. Weird!

CitrusyOne Sun 27-Jan-13 19:05:57

I was coming on to post exactly that, fridge smile

Full moon and a windy day and the kids go crackers ;)

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 19:06:49

hmmmm I have been blaming the coincidence on the moon for a long time but actually Himself has been absent this weekend and Im still, as you rightly put it, unhinged.... that is exactly how I feel. I think he must have looked at the calendar and thought he would avoid me.

Joking aside this is awful.

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 19:09:16

there must be something in it. I am generally quite rational, dh is ok in small doses, kids lovely but mad busy. This has ground me to a halt. Y, windy day seems to make it worse too - crikey, I think I am turning into a witch.

Undertone Sun 27-Jan-13 19:09:35

I get more introverted and quiet, and brood over stuff more at full moon. My version of crazy.

Admittedly i have come on today - but still.

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 19:14:20

Undertone, the two seem to happen at the same time, and then if for some reason it goes out of kilter then it will slowly happen again - coming on at the time of a full moon. Ive googled all this to see if it is a general thing but there isnt much about it. I cannot keep getting this seriously affected. I walked round Asda just wanting to commit suicide (no reflection on asda experience btw)...

got to go to docs but just think I sound crackers. Good to hear that Im not completely alone in thinking this anyway. thx

Chingchok Sun 27-Jan-13 19:14:43

I don't know, I am fairly sceptical about this as there have been a few studies to try and confirm this, and they have all been inconclusive.

My aunt suffers from manic depression, and my parents always talk about the full moon as a time to be dreaded. However, she is well aware of the whole full moon thing and so it can't really be viewed objectively.

Saying that...I was feeling a little grouchy yesterday, glanced up and saw the full moon. On the other hand, if it hadn't have been full, I'd have had to find something else to blame it on!

Has there been a full moon this weekend? I've been a fucking psycho this weekend.

HoneyDragon Sun 27-Jan-13 19:16:20

I avoid dh during full moons. He's always foul.

Ullena Sun 27-Jan-13 19:16:37

The moon affects the tides. I strongly suspect that much gravity is bound to put pressure on our brains!

YANBU

Chingchok Sun 27-Jan-13 19:17:14

Cross-posted, sorry.

Just to say that if you are feeling that low, please do seek help. Full moon or not, you don't have to suffer these feelings in silence.

headlesslambrini Sun 27-Jan-13 19:21:09

I do believe in it, DH is always a pratt refuses to do what I demand when it's a full moon, so is DS, DD surprisingly retreats to her room doesn't bother me at all. Even the dog hides in her crate grin

BikeRunSki Sun 27-Jan-13 19:24:41

My uncle is a prison officer. He says it is widely recognised that more incidents occur in prisons on a full moon than at any other time.

Fakebook Sun 27-Jan-13 19:27:53

I went into labour a day before the full moon and had DS at 3am during a full moon. The delivery suite was empty when I was in labour and gave birth, but apparently by afternoon on the same day it was so full they had turn women in labour away to another hospital in a different town.

Latara Sun 27-Jan-13 19:28:27

I think animals are susceptible to being affected by the moon, so why shouldn't humans be?

Having said that it is a good idea to see your GP if you feel very low - tell the GP that you think things are worse for you 'once a month' if that helps.

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 19:35:07

OK, prob shouldn't be saying this but GOOD... glad others feel the same. Yes, have also been fecking psycho this weekend Kiss, I didn't realise it was a full moon. I am relieved that it isn't just me heading into a major breakdown.

Right, will go to bed and stay there until someone (hopefully gently and calmly so they don't get bitten) wakes me up.

is there anything you can take/do??? And Im not a herbal kind of chick - but I would sit naked in a paperbag and eat moss if it helped me not go so flaming crazy arsed mental. I can honestly see why people lose it. I have hung on by fingernails this weekend, and am most certainly going to go to dox. I actually don't trust myself not to disappear off a cliff when I feel like this, and I can't do that - too many kids and lovely old dad who needs me.

thx for replies

Its a full moon? Today?

Thank god. I thought I was going mad. I am even pissing myself off with my diva behaviour today.

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 19:38:58

Headlesslambrini - does that kinda thing happen every full moon? Do you reckon just being aware of it/checking out calendar that stops you sinking lower or shouting louder? hope you don't mind me asking you?

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 19:42:57

yes, full bore head blasting full moon. I felt "thank god" when I was told it was full moon too - I should have known. PMT, full moon and a bloody untidy house/homework not done/no clean uniform/eaten shed load of biscuits. Still, it has cheered me up coming on here

BikeRunSki Sun 27-Jan-13 20:02:01

I swear that it was a full moon that brought DS two weeks early. The ward was full to bursting!

ArtemisatBrauron Sun 27-Jan-13 20:24:17

YADNBU - I just had a meltdown after burning my hand on the oven, chipping the enamel on our large cast iron pot with the hand blender and thus filling the soup I had just spent ages making with chips of enamel paint.
Sulked for ages,feeling very irrational then saw your post and realised it was full moon!
My yoga teacher always claimed full moon was a time of heightened emotions and also a time people are more prone to accidents. Maybe it is true after all!

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 20:50:15

OK. Im sorry about your pot and soup Arte. Totally sympathise. I think it is the time for a ready meal when I next see a full moon coming, and Im a cook. I spent hours yesterday trying to teach 12 yr old DS some cooking stuff and I screwed everything up. Everything went in the bin, pan, spoon, bowl, supper... son went to bed, rest of kids hid. Chaos, and irrational sadness.

Am going to dox tomorrow as this can't keep happening, but I imagine Im going to get hit with the "mid life crisis, take a vitamin, go to bed early, go swimming" advice. I have done all that. I know sceptics can see this as a load of toffee but surely there must be evidence. I swear if this was 120 years ago Id be in a cell or being dunked into the river in one of those chairs I learned about in history.

Midwife will dd4 said that labour ward went crazy around full moon and some old hand midwives would sometimes avoid shifts on full moon night.

got to look into this more or one day I think I will break!

fuzzypicklehead Sun 27-Jan-13 21:03:47

I'm glad somebody else posted about this--I've been cranky as hell somewhat moody today too, and feel like crap!

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 21:19:49

if anyone does find a site or info on this then pls put a link on. There must be some relation between moon/mood/tide or something. I am no mystic meg and kinda disregard all that kind of astrostuff but there must be something. Sometimes it doesn't happen too badly and the affect isn't too bad but this has been properly desperately difficult. I just want to go and sit by the sea and be a self obsessed moron and that isn't the real me. And yes, feel like crap too - really physical as well as just mental.

CaptChaos Sun 27-Jan-13 21:27:53

I always used to believe in the full moon/lunacy correlation as well, but apparently it is urban myth, no scientific basis at all.

There is this article which has links to learned ones which show no statistical basis for it. scienceline.org/2008/03/ask-grant-fullmoon/

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 21:43:15

cool, that was interesting reading....and i only skimmed it and am going to go back to big dig tomorrow. I kind of get the gist of it that if you are feeling down/slightly unbalanced/life's shite then you seem to be more susceptible to feeling different when there is a full moon. However, Am going to look into it more and in the meantime go to bed feeling like total crap and hoping the sun shines tomorrow. urban myth/smoke/fire - god knows. I just know that this has been one hell of a bad mood sad crap weekend and those seem to happen more when the moon is big. May be a case of get over self.

5madthings Sun 27-Jan-13 21:49:28

Oh is it a full moon today? That helps explain mine and the ds's behavior today, we have all been irritable and cranky.

Full moon effect is quite common I think, my midwife friend comments on it.

MammaTJ Sun 27-Jan-13 21:57:32

I started my working life working in a big Victorian Psychiatric hospital. They would have extra staff on the day before, the night of and the day after the full moon and believe me, they were needed.

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 22:02:32

5mad - how old is ds? I wondered if it was just a girl thing. Do boys get affected too - mine refused to go to see his dad this weekend and has been v moody. I thought he was just reacting to me.

goodtoesnaughtytoes Sun 27-Jan-13 22:03:36

This makes sense. I've been snappy all weekend. But there are other things going on too soo could be a mixture- first day back at work tomorrow after 11 months maternity leave. First day sending 10 month old to nursery hmm. Came on today. DP being annoying/living in a bubble grrr....

CaptChaos Sun 27-Jan-13 22:04:34

Mamma me too, which is why I originally believed in it. However, it seems that ours and many others anecdotal evidence doesn't hold water. Came as a shock to me, I can tell you!

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 22:05:40

so how come if hospitals and prisons are so affected is there no scientific whatsit to prove the correlation. If it means crime rates rise, divorce lawyers get richer, children hide under beds (and Im only talking about my house) then its puzzling that every time I have looked into it on the net it just seems inconclusive. bum, I wish I had worked harder - id have done a phd or something on it. There has got to be something somewhere. I don't seem to be the only one who goes nucking futs.

WorraLiberty Sun 27-Jan-13 22:08:15

I think it's a load of Billy bollocks personally.

So when you're snappy at other times, what do you blame it on then?

A period
Lack of sleep
Stress
Financial worries
Or just a plain old bad mood
Low blood sugar

But when there's a full moon, people will blame it on that instead of any of the reasons in the list.

CaptChaos Sun 27-Jan-13 22:14:06

Not a clue! duckduck

It might relate to expectations of behaviour though. Where we all 'gear up' for things to be worse on full moon nights, and so we interpret fairly run of the mill behaviour in a more extreme way.

It is counter intuitive, but there are large bodies of evidence which suggest that there is no such badger as full moon fever.

duckduck Sun 27-Jan-13 22:21:32

hmmmm, which is why i have ignored for ages and thought Im full of crap for thinking it. but this is one of those times when all those things have happened to the extreme, im so not myself and then I find out it is a full moon.

I often get through vile periods, sleepless nights, stupid ijit man, no cash and lack of chocolate without wanting to commit suicide. Anyway, its good to know that there might be something somewhere and I can see the counter intuitive bit.

However, I talked to dh about it and he is now v pleased, wagging his tail and said "see, Ive done nothing wrong, its the moon". dontcha love em. grrrrrrrr. maybe IABU but I will keep a check on the calendar. maybe just apeshit crazy need to get off net and into bed.

acsec Sun 27-Jan-13 22:24:12

'D'P has been unreasonable all day and in an horrendous mood. I have been super productive.

redwellybluewelly Sun 27-Jan-13 22:28:39

Certainly our delivery unit is busier at full moon, all of our community midwives joke about it

And dd's sleep gets worse as well. And several mum friends have also mentioned full moon sleep issues.

WorraLiberty Sun 27-Jan-13 22:28:51

I had someone quite 'Woo' on my FB years ago.

She'd post things like, "Oooh full moon, can you just feel the energy?"

And all her placebo affected mates would chime in and say "Yeah, it's ooozing"

Bless....

MoominmammasHandbag Sun 27-Jan-13 23:59:25

I am in my late forties and, apart from a few years when I was on the pill, I have always started my period on the full moon. Even when my periods restarted after a break for pregnancy and breast feeding they quickly got into the same cycle. To be honest I always assumed this was quite normal hence the term " mooncup".
Consequently I am always at my peak of PMT madness just as the moon approaches its fullest. Anyone else like me?

WorraLiberty Mon 28-Jan-13 00:22:02

No, the term 'mooncup' comes from the latin/greek words for monthly.

MammaTJ Mon 28-Jan-13 02:17:26

CaptChaos, we know we are right!!

Worra, you seem unusually snippy tonight, is the full moon affecting you? wink

Illgetmegoat Mon 28-Jan-13 02:45:12

Duckduck - I see you mentioned PMT and (although I joke along with others about full moon madness at work) I had a hormonal imbalance that made me feel and behave as you describe.
I could have an absolute stinker of a period but feel relatively normal, a bit weepy and wussy but no biggie, or I could have a 'fine' period and be ready to commit acts of heinous violence against the closest person for such foul crimes as standing where I need to stand, talking to me, not talking to me, breathing on me, or my particular favourite hmm the night time 'the air is too dry, I'm too hot, no don't turn the fucking fan on because now the fucking air is too heavy on my fucking skin, are you a sadist? Seriously, are you trying to wind me up, no now the fan is blowing the covers and they're touching me' ad nauseum. I felt so bad sometimes I would just be in a heap and wanting to end it all. It was hit and miss period wise, not a reliable indicator sadly as maybe I would have felt more in control.
I can't take hormonal birth control, it made it worse which was awful, but I didn't realise that even without it I needed help to get to normal - once I was being treated it was magical - seriously I felt like a rational, in control person for the first time ever. Half of the time I was patient, tolerant, kind and a fun mummy, for 2 weeks around my period I was satan - now when I'm an arsehole, it's because of usual arsehole inducing things not this irrational, uncontrolable madness that made me feel like I wanted to die.
It's worth an ask maybe?
Or widdershins round a Birch copse at the virgin moon when there is fresh dew on the grass.

duckduck Mon 28-Jan-13 07:42:16

That sounds exactly like me Illgetmegoat. Oh my goodness - it sounds exactly the same! What help did you get - when you say "once I was being treated". What you say sounds exactly like how I feel/behave. I am the same and go from supermummy to superbitch and walk round with my personal black cloud. What treatment and who did you ask - I presume a doc does a hormone test?

And I know this sounds totally crazy werewolf but why the hell sometimes does hair sprout where its not meant to and like Ive showered in Growmore? And then other times I don't need to shave legs or get the tweezers out - that would figure that it could be hormonal I suppose.
Thank you so much - that does sound a bit more plausible than howling at the moon...

fuzzypicklehead Mon 28-Jan-13 07:44:03

I know anecdote doesn't = evidence, but... I do know a person who has epilepsy, and whose seizure activity spikes and intensifies at the full moon. The person isn't in a position to know or understand about lunar activity, so it isn't because of expectation on their part. All of the seizures have been documented for decades and at some point the medical staff realized the pattern of seizures clustered around the full moon. I found it interesting, anyway.

Badvoc Mon 28-Jan-13 07:46:36

Get my period on a full moon.
I am a fucking delight to be around ATM.
angry

Illgetmegoat Mon 28-Jan-13 08:30:24

Duck - It will be a case of talking to your Dr about a blood test, they are likely to test for oestrogen, FSH, T4 and <insert here, minds gone blank blush > to see if it is due to a thyroid problem or an ovarian issue (it can also be pituitary but less likely) and what levels of hormones you have. Treatment will be dependant on this.

I had PCOS and struggled to lose weight, obesity is also a factor in hormonal imbalance as fat produces it's own hormone feedback that interferes with ovaries, HI can cause obesity so it's a nice catch 22!
I follow a holistic treatment to try and get the best effect as it was impacting my life so much - get enough sleep (this is tricky but always try when I can, DC not keen today though!), monitored my diet better, my calories weren't way off but I could and now do eat a better range of foods inc getting B vits, vit d, Iron and folic acid, lost weight and keep to an exercise regime (sigh) and although I said above I can't use hormonal bc that was a bit vague but I have pcos and endometriosis so have had a mix of tx and meds for that and other conditions so I'm a bit special hmm lucky me!.
You may end up on hormone treatment it just depends whether it's thyroid hormone or similar to hrt/birth control progesterone only.

I won't lie it did seem like quite a shift after struggling with losing weight for so long, being very discouraged and feeling awful but it made such a difference for me that now it's just routine. It's nothing invasive or that leaves you feeling only mildly shit instead of completely shit iyswim! It's definitely worth a punt I reckon, it's not fair to you to feel like this when you could feel like yourself all the time. Even if it isn't at least it's a first step to getting rid.

EPIC POST! Apologies for the novella grin

flow4 Mon 28-Jan-13 09:08:45

Statistics describe what happens in groups, not for individuals. So when Worra (or anyone else) says there's 'no evidence' of a full moon effect, that means the population of women as a whole don't experience it, not that you personally don't.

Statistically, you'd expect 1/30 women to start their periods on the full moon, and 3/30 to start within a day of it, and 5/30 - i.e. a sixth of us - to start within 2 days of it. And since most of us (estimates suggest about 85%) experience some kind of hormonal effect - PMT, moodiness, etc. - then you'd expect about 1 in 7 or 8 women to start their periods around the full moon and feel affected by it, though only a smaller number will feel 'loony'.

The rest of us don't feel a full moon effect though, so statistically speaking, there's no effect even if you're climbing the curtains and baying at the moon grin

MoominmammasHandbag Mon 28-Jan-13 09:12:16

Worra I am disproportionately disappointed to learn that. I have genuinely always assumed that everyone gets their period on the full moon, based I suppose on my Mum, my University flatmates and now my daughters being in sync with me.
Basdvoc just me and you in tune with our inner moon goddess then smile

fieldfare Mon 28-Jan-13 09:32:35

Me too. I've always got my period at full moon. Pmt over the weekend was horrendous.
There might not be any evidence but I can definitely feel a change.

duckduck Mon 28-Jan-13 10:28:29

OK am off to doc this morning so will go with armfuls of this and hopefully not get sent off to psych ward... though that might be a nice peaceful restful place compared to my house this weekend and the storm I created. kin ell Id rather feel mildly shit all the time than like this every month..

Badvoc Mon 28-Jan-13 11:15:00

Moon goddess!?
Hmm...I think dh would describe it as more of a moon dictator with sociopathic tendencies! smile

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