To believe feeding pets off plates is a tad unhygienic

(74 Posts)
zignzag Sun 27-Jan-13 10:21:31

Ok so I was house sitting and dog sitting lately. The dog a beautiful golden retriever is much loved and treated like another member of the family, which is to be admired. My kids were with me, who are used to visiting and staying in this house a good bit. Anyway after dinner I went to clear off plates into refuse bin when my little says ..."just let the plates down on the floor and the dog will clean them off" ! This happens after meals it appears. I'm not a fanatic about hygiene and I love my pets but is leaving them lick the plates clean a bit much?

I know some people will see nothing wrong and I know houses where cats are fed on counter tops in utility rooms etc but I think pets should not be fed around worktops or off plates

CreamOfTomatoSoup Sun 27-Jan-13 10:25:28

My DM and DBro do this and bro did it in MY house with MY plates. YANBU but their house, their problem.

I put my cats tuna on a plate on the worktop - she then delicately takes each bit chunk by chunk and eats it off the worktop.

She also has a glass of water with her meal grin

Everything goes in the dishwasher together.

YABU.

Flobbadobs Sun 27-Jan-13 10:26:40

Well, as long as the plates are properly cleaned after the pets have had a go I don't see the problem.

*cat's

BumpingFuglies Sun 27-Jan-13 10:27:14

If the plates are washed properly afterwards, I don't see the problem?

FreudiansSlipper Sun 27-Jan-13 10:27:51

Well it would be if they did not wash them after

My handsome little puss cat sleeps on my bed and I often wake up and find muddy paw marks on my sheets, jumps on the kitchen table, if you do put a plate down he will assume its for him and have a taste hardly hygienic but I do not really care smile

CailinDana Sun 27-Jan-13 10:28:11

I can see why you're not keen on it, but it doesn't bother me at all, mainly because all our stuff goes through the dishwasher and comes out really clean anyway so it doesn't matter who uses it. Plus my cats don't carry any diseases that I know of so I don't mind them using our plates at all. I think it's a personal thing - either hating it or being ok with it is understandable.

pjmama Sun 27-Jan-13 10:28:55

YABU, plates wash. Am totally with you about cats on worktops though.

Sirzy Sun 27-Jan-13 10:29:26

although irrational as things are cleaned i do agree with you and find it odd feeding animals of plates (unless it is that animals own plate)

But I hate the idea of pets on kitchen worktops and similar things to

LazyMachine Sun 27-Jan-13 10:30:01

Lazydog is our pre-wash!

It would only be unreasonable if we put them straight back into the cupboard after she finished her job... grin

LazyMachine Sun 27-Jan-13 10:30:58

Btw, Lazycat is NOT allowed onto tables or kitchen worktops!

I know I said YABU but having thought about this further, I am totally ok with sharing my plates with my cat but if I was eating in someone else's house and Si knew their dog shared the plates it might make me feel a tad ick grin

as others have said, they get washed, i don't see the problem.

When you live in an open plan space as i do, keeping the mog off the worktops is nigh on impossible unless I monitor her every move.

D0oinMeCleanin Sun 27-Jan-13 10:33:35

Dogs are excellent for removing crumbs and scraps, like mobile waste disposal units grin

We use anti bac washing up liquid afterwards.

zignzag Sun 27-Jan-13 10:34:20

Yes I know it's probably not going to kill anyone and as I said I do love pets. Just would not feed them off my plates.

The way I would look at it is I might not mind sharing my plate with a dog but what about visitors, children etc. do not think its fair. Should you warn visitors that rusty had his breakfast off the plate you are going to have your slice of batten-burg off of.....

For those of you who do not mind pets eating off plates would you eating off plates in another's house where their dogs may have eaten off?

Not every house may worm and care for their dogs like you do!

Sparklingbrook Sun 27-Jan-13 10:35:00

Sparkling Cat has her own plates. But they go in the dishwasher. grin

MrsKeithRichards Sun 27-Jan-13 10:35:40

I think it's gross, as is having a cat wandering about work tops <boke>

D0oinMeCleanin Sun 27-Jan-13 10:35:44

Yes I would and I do and I know the dogs in that house are not wormed routinely. They are wormed as when needed.

crazycanuck Sun 27-Jan-13 10:36:04

patienceisvirtuous a spray bottle of water set to mist is a good way to train cats to stay off worktops (has worked for me with 2 cats).

FreudiansSlipper Sun 27-Jan-13 10:39:45

well handsome puss cat has his own bowls but when he has licked a plate I do not put it aside with the other licked plates it's goes in the dishwasher and is cleaned

So it I do not warn visitors and if they did ask I would use a party paper plate for them

Iteotwawki Sun 27-Jan-13 10:41:28

As l

How do you stop a cat wandering on worktops though?
Ours used to jump onto the microwave and get onto the boiler - on the topof the boiler about 12 inches from the ceiling.
We came home from work and couldn't find her- until we saw these little cat legs sticking out ...grin

Chandon Sun 27-Jan-13 10:44:04

I hate it when people do this, it is disgusting, but quite common in the UK, I think.

I get particularly annoyed when PIL invites his big dogs to te table, when at our house, to lick the plates. My Wedgwood! <faints>, seriously, faint...

Iteotwawki Sun 27-Jan-13 10:45:36

As long as dog slobber isn't the only thing cleaning the plates! DDog often acts as a prewash for us but then everything goes through the dishwasher. The only thing that bothers me when pets clean plates is that not all human food is ok for dogs & I worry about accidental poisoning. The only things I know for certain to avoid are chocolate, onions & raisins. I'm sure there's other stuff DDog is happily lapping up that is terribly bad for him though.

riverboat Sun 27-Jan-13 10:46:05

We let our dog lick plates after we've finished. As a poster above said, its great for getting rid of scraps/stuck on bits that otherwise clog up the dishwasher! All plates are of course thoroughly washed after, often first rinsed by hand under v hot water, then put in dishwasher. I'm not convinced dog saliva is more dangerous than human saliva...

I think it is disgusting as is cats on the table/worktops

My MIL lets her animals lick the plates clean and the cats are all over the worktops, god knows what they have been walking about in. I have never eaten or had a drink in her house and she knows why.

I have 2 cats and they do not go on the table or worktops. It really isn't that difficult if you catch them on the sides you either spray then or shout at then or get them off.

I am surprised people live like this.

TomArchersSausage Sun 27-Jan-13 10:59:12

Argh noooo I think it's revolting.

We have two adored cats but they have their own bowls which are washed separately with a different cloth.

One of my cats does keep jumping on my kitchen worktops and it drives me nuts. I tell him off, it's not ok and he knows ithmm I'm always spraying and wiping the surfaces because of it.

We share our living place with our cat and dog. No restriction on where cat goes and the dog either (obviously not on work surface but ok on bed and sofa). Generally don't feed the dog off our plate as human food is unhealthy for her.

However, I do sometimes put her food in our bowls.
TBH don't see the problem with it.

As a whole we are a really healthy family. No allergies here and as a rule we seem to all deal very well with viruses and other illnesses!

zignzag Sun 27-Jan-13 11:01:18

Can't understand why people just don't scrape plates off into dogs bowl if they want them to eat leftovers. I know obviously it doesn't bother them so I suppose that's my answer. Just for the sake of scraping plates off. I'm sure plenty of sickness could be caught from dogs saliva. Isn't rabies ? I know bit ott but sickness and germs and worms I'm sure can be passed onto humans through saliva.

Sheila Sun 27-Jan-13 11:02:01

YANBU. It's disgusting. Those of you who disagree should google toxoplasmosis and then see how you feel about letting your kids share a plate with your pet.

TomArchersSausage Sun 27-Jan-13 11:06:23

When you see what pets stick their noses into or eat outside it makes sense to keep their mouths off humans plates.

I absolutely hate dogs licking/slobbering. Arrgh!

Lonecatwithkitten Sun 27-Jan-13 11:13:22

My issue with this is not the hygiene, Shelia the dog would have defaecate on the plate to infect a child with toxo as the infectious oocysts are passed in faeces.
These dogs get fatter and fatter and then owners claim to the vet they have no idea why. Scraps from the table can be up to twice a golden retrievers calorific allowance for the day.

LazyMachine Sun 27-Jan-13 11:17:13

For those looking for a good, cruelty-free method of training your cat to stay off tables or workspaces, a spritzer bottle of water works wonders - just spritz straight into mog's face and s/he will soon get the message. You absolutely must be consistent, though, so keep the spritzer at hand.

D0oinMeCleanin Sun 27-Jan-13 11:22:17

I agree with the weight issue. We recently had a foster in who was slightly porky. The owner was trying to fatten her up because she thought she was too thin.

So many dogs are overweight now, we have lost sight of what a dog should look like, I am constantly being told my perfectly in proportion whippet x is too thin and needs feeding up. I've even been accused of neglect and cruelty (mostly behind my back but friends have overheard). My vet is very happy with her weight and says whilst she is bordering on being underweight, she is atm, within a normal range and he'd prefer for her to be slightly thin than slightly fat.

I think that is more not knowing what a healthy dog should look like, than feeding table scraps.

YY to animals eating human food but still don't see the problem with sharing the same bowls. They're getting cleaned afterwards.

Anyways, we're living in overly sterilized environments which means that our bodies are not given the chance to increase its antibodies against germs and diseases.

BookFairy Sun 27-Jan-13 11:34:44

I lodged with a woman who put dinner plates on the floor for the cats. There was no dishwasher and everything just got dunked in the sink confused

Fakebook Sun 27-Jan-13 11:37:16

Ugh. That is just disgusting. Yanbu.

DolomitesDonkey Sun 27-Jan-13 11:42:08

YABU - learn to wash up after you and your pets have eaten.

theodorakisses Sun 27-Jan-13 11:51:58

It's ok in your own home on your own plates. Similarly I don't like sharing my glass with someone else's toddler, the bogeys!

theodorakisses Sun 27-Jan-13 11:53:36

Regarding dogs eating human food, my beautiful boy died recently after stealing a plate of curry, he had severe liver failure from the onions. I will regret it until the day I die.

Well, the pet-licked plates went back in the cupboard and were re-used without washing, you'd have a point. But honestly, does it really matter? The plates are washed afterwards, so they're clean.

My cats love the scraps of milk leftover after cereal, and always get plates with a bit of gravy or meat scraps on. All plates go in the dishwasher, along with the cats food dishes too, so all are scrupulously clean afterwards anyway.

I do hate cats on counters though. They walk outside, and if they walk on your counters or table, you need to disinfect before you can prepare any food there. My friend's cats are allowed on all counters and tables, and it makes me a bit <vom> tbh.

zignzag Sun 27-Jan-13 12:47:31

So you think nothing of giving your cat half ate bowls of cereal yet your stomach is turned by the thoughts of a cat on a counter top..

Cats lick the shit off their arses. They then stick their same licky tongues out and lick your plates. hmm

NumericalMum Sun 27-Jan-13 12:54:45

YABVU.
Cats on tables and work tops is not ideal but I make sure I wipe the table before we eat (and we use plates!) and whilst I make sure I chase them off when I am there my cats go where they pleas when I am out!
Eating off cat plates or human plates is ridiculous as it all goes in the same dishwasher!

Ullena Sun 27-Jan-13 13:05:13

I would be more worried as to whether the food was safe for the dog, tbh! Re the cats on counters, we just wipe things down before preparing food. The hard part is keeping the cats from stealing food out of saucepans whilst cooking...

And we don't have a dishwasher, just a sink. And a very considerate DH grin

MammytoM Sun 27-Jan-13 13:39:10

YANBU - dogs lick / sniff all sorts of things when they're out and about. Who knows what's lurking on your plate after they've licked it. Not something I wold allow the dog to do, although I suppose it doesn't matter of they are washed thoroughly afterwards

carabos Sun 27-Jan-13 14:41:44

I wouldn't do it myself, but as long as plates are properly washed afterward it shouldn't be hazardous to health.

My objection would be to them being on the floor and the licking causing splattering onto floor coverings and furniture. Also confuses the boundaries and hierarchy between people and dogs - cats are a law unto themselves.

edam Sun 27-Jan-13 14:46:26

Pets should definitely not be allowed on worktops, much less fed on them. But if you wash plates throughout in hot soapy water afterwards, I guess it's not unhygienic to let them lick the plates. I think it's gross but have to confess I do let my cat do this sometimes, because it's amusing to see a carnivore so keen to lick left-over pasta sauce (vegetarian sauce, no meat, no fish). grin

(I have tried to explain to the cat that he is a true carnivore who allegedly cannot digest things that are neither meat nor fish but he hasn't read the books and ignores me.)

Dawndonna Sun 27-Jan-13 14:55:10

If the dishwasher, on a hot wash is good enough to sterilise a baby bottle, it's hot enough to clean a plate that's been licked by an animal.

DoctorAnge Sun 27-Jan-13 15:05:30

That is so disgusting

5hounds Sun 27-Jan-13 15:10:47

My dogs do, iv also been known to share my ice cream with them :D

yeah cats on countertops gross me out, but licking plates before going through the dishwasher, nah.

Sparklingbrook Sun 27-Jan-13 17:39:27

We need to see the figures for dog/cat germ related illnesses as a direct result of plate licking. How many a year I wonder?

LittleChimneyDroppings Sun 27-Jan-13 17:42:13

Gross. I'm sure the dishwasher does get them clean enough, but I still couldn't do it. <boak>

zukiecat Sun 27-Jan-13 17:45:44

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

In my defence my cat is indoors only - and I wash and disinfect the worktops without fail before use :-)

pud1 Sun 27-Jan-13 17:52:31

my dog has just pre washed our Sunday lunch. his favourite is the gravy pan.

Sparklingbrook Sun 27-Jan-13 17:53:24

I don't like it when dogs lick people's faces, and that's similar.

KellyElly Sun 27-Jan-13 17:54:15

If you wash your plates properly frankly it wouldn't matter if you had a shit on your plate. If you use antibacterial washing up liquid and clean it thoroughly it will be good as new the next time you come to use it.

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 27-Jan-13 17:56:42

I wouldn't be bothered unless they thought the dog licking the plate meant they were now clean and put them back in the cupboard. That would be incredibly disgusting.

thebody Sun 27-Jan-13 17:58:20

My cats stalk us for cereal and milk.
They finish off our fish.

I wash plates properly and put in dishwasher.

There's no health risks here its just preference like hating sprouts or liking Mark White..

My little cat sleeps with us as well.

So there.

zignzag Sun 27-Jan-13 18:14:08

Well I've learnt from this thread to ask the next house I visit if their dog has eaten off the same plate, or better still bring my own plates, cups etc

Would it acceptable to ask? Would you be insulted if a guest asked if the dog had eaten off the plates? Because I seriously do not want to share utensils with a cat, dog or similar!

Emilythornesbff Sun 27-Jan-13 18:19:04

Gross.
Why not just clear the plate into the dog's dish?
Yuck.
<heaving emicon>

Emilythornesbff Sun 27-Jan-13 18:20:08

I will only eat at home or at zignzag's place now. Decided.

theodorakisses Mon 28-Jan-13 13:52:21

When I was picking up Pitbullpup (Carrot) to bring home, I stopped for a Hardee's burger (do you get those in the UK, they are lush). Anyway, I was chatting to a mate next to me in the traffic jam and then realised he had nibbled and slobbered on it while I wasn't looking. A U turn and another drive thru would have added at least an hour on my journey so I ate it anyway. I'm still alive although anxiously watching him for signs of disease!

theodorakisses Mon 28-Jan-13 13:53:37

Dogs face licking is a big no no in our house. we have too many and I know they secretly dig up cat shit as a hobby.

LimburgseVlaai Mon 28-Jan-13 14:14:34

I wouldn't let cats/dogs do it, not so much for hygiene reasons (dishwasher) but because a) human food is not always good for animals - they might get ill or too fat; and b) because we don't want cats/dogs begging for food. Any scraps get scraped off the plates/pans and saved up for their 'proper' breakfast/dinner.

LimburgseVlaai Mon 28-Jan-13 14:15:17

Sorry meant to say 'any suitable scraps'.

LtEveDallas Mon 28-Jan-13 14:19:20

Seriously, a child said to you that the dog licks the plates and from that you have decided that the dog licks them and its owners put them back in the cupboard? Are you barking? (arf!)

Dog licks plates, plates then get washed (dishwasher or by hand). No saliva left on them, no diseases, nothing to worry about (actually dog saliva is cleaner than human saliva, so....)

theodorakisses Mon 28-Jan-13 14:22:18

As I said up thread, my darling dog died from eating human food that he stole. It is so important to remember that, an onion rich curry may mean, like me, you will never forgive yourself.

zignzag Wed 30-Jan-13 07:49:42

Ltevedallas ... Never said they put dog locked plates back in press, don't know where you picked that up from.

echt Wed 30-Jan-13 09:23:46

OP, YANBU about the plates, unless you seriously believe that all people wash their hands after using the lavatory.

LtEveDallas Wed 30-Jan-13 09:32:47

Oh well Zig, in that case I'm even more confused - I mean, if they wash the plates afterwards, what on earth is the problem?

I'm not being sarcastic, I really don't get it?

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