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to offend vegans by saying...

(99 Posts)
Moominguru Sat 26-Jan-13 23:44:26
AgentZigzag Sat 26-Jan-13 23:47:36

I'm sure vegans have a SOH...OK...not the one's I know...but some must have?

WorraLiberty Sat 26-Jan-13 23:48:01

Well let's see...

Oh I can't wrap it up with a bow so I'm just going to come straight out with it....

It's not exactly anywhere near hilarious is it?

And if you think it is, perhaps you need to get out more?

And I say that as a dedicated meat eater...but one with a sense of humour.

It's just a bit shit confused

LeaveTheBastid Sat 26-Jan-13 23:49:06

grin

Moominguru Sat 26-Jan-13 23:51:37

Fair enough. Everyone has different things that tickle them. I know it's very silly but it just made me giggle. Not sure what that has to do with how much I do or don't get out, but there you go.

AllYoursBabooshka Sat 26-Jan-13 23:51:57

Tehehehe

Naysa Sat 26-Jan-13 23:52:43

That's not hilarious IMO hmm and I have an incredible sense of humour

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE Sat 26-Jan-13 23:52:53

I just think it's really fucking lame that people feel the need to take the piss out of something that their teeny tiny brain cannot understand.

Someones a vegan- so what

Someones a veggie- so what

Someones a carnivore- so what

Who cares. All the 'save cows eat a veggie' is also pathetic shit too, but i'm sure it cracked you up.

AgentZigzag Sat 26-Jan-13 23:55:35

Taking it a little too seriously there puds?

AllYoursBabooshka Sat 26-Jan-13 23:57:46

Honestly, what is with people tonight?

StuntGirl Sat 26-Jan-13 23:58:15

Someones a vegan- so what
Someones a veggie- so what
Someones a carnivore- so what

Exactly. I could give a rat's ass what other people's diets are. Who cares?

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE Sat 26-Jan-13 23:59:04

Probably. But I have had shit for ages because of my eating decisions, and I really don't understand it.

I don't comment on what you eat, so what makes it ok for you to comment on what I eat? What makes it ok for people to make jokes about it?

Really grinds my gears.

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE Sat 26-Jan-13 23:59:41

Thank you stunt that is my point exactly! Eat what the hell you like.

Moominguru Sun 27-Jan-13 00:00:38

Oh dear. Rattled a few cages there then. Oops. I am quite capable of understanding vegan/veggie/carnivore, and yes indeed "so what". Kind of makes you wonder why they would need a support group then......

AgentZigzag Sun 27-Jan-13 00:02:13

The OP didn't say all vegans should be burned alive puds.

Tweasels Sun 27-Jan-13 00:02:25

I don't get it. Or it's not funny.

Think it's probably just not funny.

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 27-Jan-13 00:02:43

Made me laugh.

In the great scheme of things I don't care how anyone chooses to eat.

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE Sun 27-Jan-13 00:03:12

Probably because arserholes people feel the need to continually comment on their lifestyle choices and take the piss out of them.

StuntGirl Sun 27-Jan-13 00:03:14

Because they're a minority group and finding like minded people is nice? Because it isn't easy being vegan in our society so discussing things relating to a vegan lifestyle is probably helpful?

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE Sun 27-Jan-13 00:04:38

Don't think i implied that she did agent. I just find the whole laughing at peoples lifestyle choices annoying and immature.

AgentZigzag Sun 27-Jan-13 00:05:12

Maybe one of those times where you should have put '(lighthearted)' in the title OP?

AllYoursBabooshka Sun 27-Jan-13 00:05:58

I have vegan friends Moonmin, for some it's hard to stick to the diet. They morally want to be vegan but still crave the food they used to eat. For others it's hard to be around meat etc, people eating it/seeing it in shops.

I'm guessing that's what the support groups are for.

Moominguru Sun 27-Jan-13 00:07:11

Exactly. I wasn't making any big point as I really don't have one where this is concerned. It just made me laugh.

AllYoursBabooshka Sun 27-Jan-13 00:09:11

Oh also it's probably a good place to find out and share knowledge vegan friendly products and where they are sold. Recipes also.

I know there are lots of groups and forums online.

AgentZigzag Sun 27-Jan-13 00:09:13

The photograph just isn't offensive in the slightest puds.

I know you said there's a good reason why you're posting what you are, but it's like we're answering two different OPs because of the amount you're reading into it.

Don't get iyconfused
But as a vegetarian (not pescatarian)I'm probably too anaemic and tired to try.

PrettyKitty1986 Sun 27-Jan-13 00:09:52

I think it was funny. I even peed a little bit smile

AgentZigzag Sun 27-Jan-13 00:11:47

'I'm probably too anaemic and tired to try.'

Am I being offensive inwardly smiling at that play on the veggie stereotype?

Tweasels Sun 27-Jan-13 00:11:59

No you didn't

Moominguru Sun 27-Jan-13 00:12:37

Agreed - a "lighthearted" probably would have helped, duly noted. It's just a silly sign - not worth getting upset over.

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE Sun 27-Jan-13 00:14:41

I guess if you haven't had to spend a large amount of time defending your eating choices then you wouldn't understand.

I have had 10 years of having to defend my eating choices. Most of the piss-taking comes from my family, so as you can imagine i get it a lot. I just find it tiring.

Posts like this just feel like another jab.

Moominguru Sun 27-Jan-13 00:17:21

We all make choices we have to defend. If you are living your life in a way you feel is right for you then ultimately that's the most important thing for you and good on you for doing what you feel is right. Maybe you should focus on that instead of taking to heart a silly joke on the internet?

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE Sun 27-Jan-13 00:19:40

Its only a joke if it's funny.

Moominguru Sun 27-Jan-13 00:20:02

I'd hope if I was a vegan I could see the funny side, although I take on board your comments about your issues with defending your choices to your family. I can see how that would get quite tiresome.

AgentZigzag Sun 27-Jan-13 00:20:13

I have spent time taking jibes for what I've eaten puds, but not for being vegan.

But I know what you mean from other things that fuck me off.

I just felt sorry for the OP for posting to have a laugh and getting a roasting for her troubles.

Moominguru Sun 27-Jan-13 00:20:54

Yes, but it is funny to me. That's the thing about sense of humour - we all have a slightly different one.

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE Sun 27-Jan-13 00:24:09

I get that its funny to you, although from your thread title, it comes across as purposely inflammatory. Sorry.

It is literally every meal i eat with any members of my family, there is some negative mention of my eating choices.

I have also had to put up with people pushing meat into my face.

Moominguru Sun 27-Jan-13 00:24:45

Thanks but don't worry agent I'll survive. Like I said, I understand that different people find different things amusing. I can handle a few people telling me they were offended. It made a few other people laugh to so swings and roundabouts as they say.

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE Sun 27-Jan-13 00:25:40

I am sorry for seeming so irate, but reflecting on what i have been subjected too, i can only conclude i have been bullied for my choices.

Moominguru Sun 27-Jan-13 00:26:40

And pud I also take on board your comment about the thread title and concede there - I was guilty of not thinking that one through. I honestly didn't intend to wind people up, just maybe give a few people a laugh. You are right though - I didn't word it right.

AllYoursBabooshka Sun 27-Jan-13 00:27:59

That's disgusting puds.

I wouldn't be eating with those type of people again, family or not.

HopAndSkip Sun 27-Jan-13 01:52:34

A human carnivore would be very unhealthy and would most likely need a big support group due to having a much more restricted diet than vegans.

A herbivore eats primarily just plants
An Onmivore eats plants and meat
A carnivore eats primarily just meat

HoHoHoNoYouDont Sun 27-Jan-13 01:59:44

I've never seen so much attention to Vegetarians as I have since joining MN.

HopAndSkip Sun 27-Jan-13 02:01:41

HoHoHo, that is a good point. I'd completely forgotten I was a vegetarian my entire childhood until joining MN! You don't hear about it in everyday life.

MusicalEndorphins Sun 27-Jan-13 02:34:37

Doesn't look like a support group to me, looks like an casual social common interest and information group for people interested in vegetarianism. The other sign insinuates the vegans are wimps and need a support group.

balotelli Sun 27-Jan-13 07:19:37

Not that funny but then some people have a sense of humour that would find that sort of thing funny.

What I do find funny is how 'meat eaters' seem to feel threatened by us Vegans. They often feel the need to question our beliefs and diets while we Vegans rarely question them, if they want to increase their risk of numerous illnesses then that is their problem but if I want to live more healthily and save the lives of 1000's of beautiful living creatures then that seems to be a problem for a large number of people.

DoItToJulia Sun 27-Jan-13 07:34:54

I agree, veggie/vegan bashing isn't cool.

zignzag Sun 27-Jan-13 07:48:27

Support groups for vegans .... What next support groups for meat eaters?

I find the few vegans I know very pass remarkable on what I eat, always trying to educate me re my culinary choices.. So it works both ways IMO.

As others have said who cares what others eat....

Find it somewhat amusing that vegans may be having dirty thoughts about a pair of shoes or a juicy steak!! What stress to introduce to ones life! Surely if someone is craving meat just eat the bloody stuff. All unnecessary self induce mind fucks IMO. Sure you'd need in patient care not just a support group with having to deal with the guilt of wanting a pair of winter boots.

rubyrubyruby Sun 27-Jan-13 08:29:56

Vegan/Vegetarian bashing isn't good but I find that most of the bashing comes from them towards meat-eaters.

I also believe that hour body craves what it needs. Listen to your body.

AlwaysWantingMore Sun 27-Jan-13 10:04:56

I'm with pud on this one.

I would probably write on the 'carnivore' sign

'you may be more in the Perpetual Tossers' support group?'

In an equally passive aggressive way...

I found it funny. I get that others might not.

I do object to someone telling me that something isn't a joke if they don't find it funny. It might be a crap joke but it was still a joke.

Dawndonna Sun 27-Jan-13 10:16:04

I have two veggies in the house, both found it amusing.

Puds I'm sorry all you are doing is perpetuating the old thing about Vegans being martyrs.

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 10:16:53

I really think people who make informed choices about their diet are the ones who rattle all the other people's cages....

why does it bother a carnivore if someone else chooses not to eat meat/dairy etc?

It clearly bothers the person who wrote that little ad and pinned it by the first one.

I'm not a vegan or a vaggie. I was for about 15 years. I found a lot of people couldn't deal with it so they came up with jokes like this...

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 10:17:53

er, that would be veggie. VEEEEEEEggie. blush

AgentZigzag Sun 27-Jan-13 10:17:57

'I find the few vegans I know very pass remarkable on what I eat'

I've found that too, they lecture about the choices they've made and how everyone else should do the same, far more than non-vegans.

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 10:18:26

nearly wrote weggie.

I have a 3wo on my lap.

Branleuse Sun 27-Jan-13 10:20:11

is it supposed to be funny????

Haggischucker Sun 27-Jan-13 10:28:28

I'm vegetarian, have been for 24 years, DH is not and he has a T shirt that says 'I love vegetarians............ More meat for me' it tickles me every time he wears it! Classic BBQ wear. I did smile at the OP but have seen funnier, I don't tend to take it too seriously.

CheCazzo Sun 27-Jan-13 10:30:44

Not particularly funny. Maybe you're much younger than a lot of us OP?

Anyway - can't see why anyone would have an opinion on what another person eats or does not eat. Why is that your business?

As for this from balotelli -

"What I do find funny is how 'meat eaters' seem to feel threatened by us Vegans. They often feel the need to question our beliefs and diets while we Vegans rarely question them, if they want to increase their risk of numerous illnesses then that is their problem" -

Let me help you out there. I don't feel threatened by you and I'd be surprised if anyone did tbh. However, your preachy oh-so-holy tone makes me want to throw large lumps of meat at you whilst pissing on your courgette patch. HTH.

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 10:30:50

See I think that's funny, Haggis smile

It's not having a go at anyone is it. That's the difference.

crazycanuck Sun 27-Jan-13 10:32:51

I find it funny, but we all have differing senses of humour. Incidentally I showed this same photo to 2 of my veggie (vaggie ha ha RooneyMara!) friends a couple years ago. One had been veggie for years, the other had recently 'converted' and was quite evangelical about her lifestyle choice and put forth her moral superiority on it at every opportunity. The friend who was the veteran veggie found it hysterical, the recent convert hated it.

tittytittyhanghang Sun 27-Jan-13 10:40:24

made me laugh.

pictish Sun 27-Jan-13 10:44:37

Oh it's just a silly joke!! For crying out loud!

Since when have vegans been so special that we cannot poke a little light hearted fun about it?

It's not a dire insult. It's not a total slating. Christ!

I'm with Che. Preachy, martyr vegans and vegetarians (or is that vagitarians, Rooney? wink) give me the absolute screaming shits, because, as a quiet, mind-my-own-business vegetarian who chuckles good-naturedly when people jibe me frequently about my dietary choice, I don't want to be lumped into the same category as them. Support group for vegans my arse. Why not just put up a poster saying, 'LOOK AT US! LOOK AT US HERE ON OUR MORAL HIGH-GROUND! COME JOIN US AND WE CAN POINT AND LAUGH TOGETHER!' and append photos of all the members.

But back to your original point OP. Not 'hilarious', but I smiled inwardly and would like to have given the carnivore a high-five.

LadyBeagleEyes Sun 27-Jan-13 10:47:46

It made me smile.

pictish Sun 27-Jan-13 10:51:55

I was at a deeply crusty festie in the summer there, and saw a guy wearing a t-shirt that said 'Vegans are attention seekers'.

I laughed at his cheek.

That'll be 50 public lashes for me then. grin

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 10:52:05

I'd not have a problem with it if I thought it was genuinely funny like Haggis's DH's t shirt.

It just seems to have an element to it that's quite nasty iyswim. Like the person who did it genuinely feels aggrieved by vegans.

Maybe they know a particularly horrid one who annoys them. There are some of those about for sure.

But leave the rest of us (in my old self, that is) alone...not all of us try to convert everyone else/preach about it etc. We just get on with it.

It gave me a chuckle when I first saw it.

Though what I found even more funny as the idea that vegetarians and vegans needed a 'support group'!

pictish Sun 27-Jan-13 10:54:25

It's not a support group, it's a mutual admiration society. wink grin

Shakirasma Sun 27-Jan-13 11:01:57

Maybe I'm a pedant but I couldn't find it funny because I too irritated by the use if the word carnivore, when meat eating human beings are omnivores.

Just one of those things that makes my piss itch. smile

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 11:02:16

?

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 11:02:33

@ Pictish btw

ChippingInNeedsCoffee Sun 27-Jan-13 11:02:52

It's just eye rolling boring. People think they're so 'original' and they are not - that is funny.

MarcelineTheVampireQueen Sun 27-Jan-13 11:03:14

Ok its official, no one is allowed to say anything about anyone on mn anymore. This site is now so officially po that everyone is offended by everything.

Pud clearly you are with the wrong people, you are being bullied as you say yet you continue to eat in front of these people.

Vegans are not a persecuted minority ffs.

perplexedpirate Sun 27-Jan-13 11:07:55

Offensive: no.
Snide, unoriginal and unfunny: yes.

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 11:18:58

Have you ever been one Marceline? Having the same two or three comments from people again and again can make you feel a bit persecuted!

TheBigJessie Sun 27-Jan-13 11:20:46

But, none of you are carnivores... In fact, all of us, including the vegans, veggies, and meat-eaters are biologically omnivores.

Unless one of you is going to stand up and claim you never give your children fruit and vegetables?

I'm waiting! (I need a Sonic the Hedgehog smiley.)

MarcelineTheVampireQueen Sun 27-Jan-13 11:24:06

I am one Rooney.

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 11:24:26

<stands up>

blush

No I do try....

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 11:24:55

Oh fair enough Marceline.

pictish Sun 27-Jan-13 11:29:36

I was a veggie for 12 years or something.
I fancied myself rotten. Lol!! grin

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 11:31:10

grin

fascicle Sun 27-Jan-13 11:31:13

Is this a sense of humour test for vegans? Find this joke funny, or we'll know know you don't have a SOH.

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 11:31:31

strangely I rarely have fancied a veggie bloke though.

Fakebook Sun 27-Jan-13 11:40:55

It made me smile, but someone must have a lot of free time on their hands to do that. I feel quite sorry for them. What a pathetic and sad life they must have.

pictish Sun 27-Jan-13 11:44:25

Pathetic, sad, and bursting with laughter.
I feel sorry for them too. Laughing sucks.

tiffinbaker Sun 27-Jan-13 11:47:08

I don't think vegans generally would find this offensive as such. Idiots behaving idiotically isn't offensive. The picture reflects badly on the person who made the notice and the people who think it's hilarious, and makes them look small-minded. It does no harm, just lets the rest of us know who not to bother with in future. Stupid people just don't seem to realise how utterly utterly dull their jokes about vegetarianism are. What people choose to eat is their own business. If you can't get over that and feel the need to make this kind of fuss about it then I pity you but am not offended, no.

pictish Sun 27-Jan-13 11:48:31

Not offended? Methinks you are!

DoItToJulia Sun 27-Jan-13 11:50:56

I don't understand why you care pictish?

Dominodonkey Sun 27-Jan-13 12:01:32

Yanbu - I think it's funny and I find it offensive that lots of people on this thread are insulting people and lording it over them because they have a different sense of humour. I am not a vegetarian but would never criticise someone who was and I am quite happy eating meals without any meat in. The person who has made the poster is making fun of the vegans need to have an exclusive support group (is anyone else getting a 'finding nemo vibe from the poster- fish are friends!) not the act of being vegan itself.

pictish Sun 27-Jan-13 12:08:30

I don't particularly.

I do think getting your pants in a faff over a harmless, ignorable poke in the ribs is annoying though. Do all the vegans and vegetarians on here sucking on a lemon never ever have a passing snort at the expense of someone else?
Course they do! We all do!

None of us are exempt from a little good natured ribbing. Far better to be able to laugh at yourself, than imagine you are something special and above reprieve.
Don't you think?

LadyBeagleEyes Sun 27-Jan-13 12:10:05

I agree with Pictish.
Ffs it's a silly, harmless joke.
Wheesh.

DoItToJulia Sun 27-Jan-13 12:20:58

Up to a point, I agree.

However, I don't think telling someone that you think they are offended when they have said they aren't offended is spoiling for an argument.

I just don't think that poking fun at people's choices generally is big or clever.

RooneyMara Sun 27-Jan-13 12:40:36

Ribbing always makes me think of durex. I really can't seem to see it on a page and not think it's about condoms.

lljkk Sun 27-Jan-13 13:00:13

I was vegetarian for 16 years and sometimes think I'd like to go Vegan. Eating meat in meantime.

I thought it was hilarious.

Sense of humour bypass or what? One club I will not join is Taking-Themselves-Too-Seriously Eaters.

loofet Sun 27-Jan-13 15:39:24

But.. its not funny? confused

countrykitten Sun 27-Jan-13 16:18:50

As a vegan it did not offend me but neither did it make me laugh. A non-reaction from this corner....

corlan Sun 27-Jan-13 18:16:10

Mildly amusing, but nowhere near hilarious.

From my experience as an ex-vegan I think part of the perceived sense of humour failure is that vegans have heard it all before. A lot of people think it's fine to question a vegan diet & you go get tired of it. If you heard the funniest joke in the world eventually you would get bored of it & it would cease to be funny.

There's even 'defensive omnivore bingo' which predicts the top things omnivores are likely to say & every person on a vegan forum I frequented has heard them all, many times.

Which is why some vegans might want to get together to discuss food without being pestered.

Genuinely curious people, fair enough, but this is just having a dig for the sake of it. It doesn't offend me, nor is it hilarious.

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