to think it's compulsory for the female lead in an adventure film to be attractive?

(45 Posts)
kim147 Sat 26-Jan-13 17:19:03

But the appearance of the male lead does not matter?

Film 4 - Journey to the centre of the Earth. Male lead not much to look at. But they have a women to guide them - and obviously she's young and attractive.

Look at any adventure film - there's a male team full of all types of men. Then the token women joins the team and she's very attractive.

Is it Hollywood law?

KatyTheCleaningLady Sat 26-Jan-13 17:20:34

Sure. They want to make money and action/adventure movies appeal to men as a genre, so of course they'll put in a bit of eye candy.

Well, the Avengers had a whole cohort of very good looking men. Doesn't pass the Bechdel Test, though I don't think.

lovelyladuree Sat 26-Jan-13 17:25:46

Of course. Who wants to pay good money to watch ugly people?

kim147 Sat 26-Jan-13 17:30:52

It would be quite nice to see some attractive men as part of the team.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sat 26-Jan-13 18:01:16

I actually fancy Brendan Fraser. I think 90% of people in movies are attractive.

Less attractive men have more of a shot in Hollywood than less attractive women though.

hiddenhome Sat 26-Jan-13 18:01:53

I find attractive people in movies quite boring. They all look the same, especially the women. I want people with lived in interesting faces smile

Oh, it was the Brendan Fraser one. He's good looking. I would...

All in all, you have to be young and beautiful to get into films at all. More exceptions are made for men. Very few for women.

scarletforya Sat 26-Jan-13 18:06:15

Yes. And frequently seven stone female sidekicks in action films have the fighting prowess of Chuck Norris and make punching and kicking sounds which make your ears ring! Amazing!

LadyBeagleEyes Sat 26-Jan-13 18:10:45

I think in most adventure films, the male lead has to be attractive too.
I loved the Indiana Jones films, Harrison Ford was gorgeous in them.
Also, all the Bond Films, the lead actor has always been chosen for their looks.

nefertarii Sat 26-Jan-13 18:10:52

Attractiveness is down to opinion. Brendan fader is consider attractive in my book.

Most female (and male actors) are attractive.

nefertarii Sat 26-Jan-13 18:11:45

I meant brendan fraser.

Darkesteyes Sat 26-Jan-13 18:14:44

I said this on the Julie Burchill thread but i will say it here as well.
i dont believe we will ever see a woman above a size 10 and at a push 12 playing a romantic lead or an action lead or any type of lead.
And i mean on TV as well as cinema.
A good example of this was last years ITV drama Leaving.
They had a curvier woman playing the supportive friend. A lot of dramas/comedies/action/"chick lit" (i really hate the term chick lit) seem to follow this formula.
As a slightly heavier woman (size 18/20) i suppose i just notice it more.

BelaLugosisShed Sat 26-Jan-13 18:15:29

Male lead not attractive? shock

Brendan Fraser is a God! Have you not seen him in The Mummy and George of the jungle? 6ft 4 of yummy.

TheDeadlyDonkey Sat 26-Jan-13 18:15:45

Brendan Fraser is gorgeous! Much sexier than the usual run of the mill forgettable blandness that is a Hollywood star.

I have noticed in several films though that it is ok for the male lead to be a bit paunchy and less than perfect, but the lead women are all skinny with perky boobs.

SolidSnake Sat 26-Jan-13 18:17:12

I can't believe how many people on this thread think Brendan Fraser is very attractive, interesting...

Darkesteyes Sat 26-Jan-13 18:18:49

But we see plenty of heavier men playing a romantic lead and/or having romances as part of an action drama.
Robbie Coltrane in Cracker.
Mark Benton in Waterloo Road/Clocking Off. Just 2 examples off the top of my head.

SolidSnake Sat 26-Jan-13 18:20:10

And my, uh, "favourite" trope Dark, 'heavy men with gorgeous skinny wives', yet you never see the vice versa...

Flatbread Sat 26-Jan-13 18:21:33

I like the tv show Rosemary and Thyme. Very ordinary middle-aged women as the main characters.

And usually a bit of property porn thrown in as well grin

Darkesteyes Sat 26-Jan-13 18:22:50

EXACTLY Solid EXACTLY.

And if you did i can certainly imagine what the TV critics in certain papers would be saying the next day.

BelaLugosisShed Sat 26-Jan-13 18:23:16

I also find Ben Stiller incredibly sexy, so I may just have odd taste.

I've had a thing for Brendan for donkey's years, The Passion of Darkly Noon sparked my interest, despite him playing a religiously repressed psychopath who kills people. He was at his peak in The Mummy though, my god with his floppy hair , white shirt and gun belt, I so would.

KatyTheCleaningLady Sat 26-Jan-13 18:24:34

Ben Stiller looks like a chimp!

Anyway, I've noticed that there are a lot of "ugly hot" men. I mean, men that aren't conventionally handsome but are still hot. They're the hottest of them all, in my opinion.

Few women are "ugly hot" however. Women are expected to be pretty.

There are even categories for the ugly hot men...

Wrinkly hot - George Clooney
Grey hot - Also George Clooney
Druggie hot - Robert Downey Jnr
Stupid hair hot - that Spanish bloke, what's his name?
Funny hot - Brendan Fraser when he hasn't been working out

Can you think of any more?

Sigourney (sp?) Weaver with shaved head and space-combats in Aliens?, Its a bit sad that she could have paved the way for strong female action leads but it never quite happened.

Sigourney (sp?) Weaver with shaved head and space-combats in Aliens?, Its a bit sad that she could have paved the way for strong female action leads but it never quite happened.

StrawberryMojito Sat 26-Jan-13 18:35:28

Toni Collette has done well. She is far from unattractive but she isn't a head turner (and neither am I). Same goes for Cate Blanchett and...erm...I'm struggling to think of some others...YANBU. I can't imagine the female equivalents of Jonah Hill (get him to the Greek) or Seth Rogan (knocked up) being as successful.

I actually started my comment trying to play devils advocate and have failed miserably.

Actually, Ridley Scott tends to have quirky, interesting, not traditional female characters. Blade Runner, Thelma and Louise...

Actually, depressingly Toni Collette is skinny and stunning IRL. I know someone who has snogged her...

Actually, I have to stop using the word actually grin

kim147 Sat 26-Jan-13 18:39:54

I've seen far too many adventure films recently (Volcano etc)

Standard theme is to have a generally male filled expert team. But they have to call in outside help. Normally an attractive female.

Possibility male lead and female lead have relationship. Or have had previous relationship.

I should be a scriptwriter.

StrawberryMojito Sat 26-Jan-13 18:40:31

You and me both.

Back2Two Sat 26-Jan-13 18:40:49

Um. Hasn't anyone noticed this is the trend everywhere in the media?

Men can be old, rugged, a bit haggard, or just plain old. Very fat (but funny of course), grey haired, wrinkly ..........
Women are attractive with good, slim or curvy body. Glossy hair.

Be it film, news reader, weather person, reporter.. Whatever.

BelaLugosisShed Sat 26-Jan-13 18:40:51

Uma Thurman is definitely not pretty or even conventionally attractive yet is seen as hot .

LadyBeagleEyes Sat 26-Jan-13 18:42:04

I was about to say Sigourney Weaver too.
(I can't spell it either)
I do think there is as much male eye candy as female in films.
And in the history of Hollywood, there have been many men that have had to pretend to be hetrosexual so as not to lose their vast army of female fans.

I do think there is as much male eye candy as female in films I agree but I think it is because the ratio of men to women in films is high. In ensemble pieces there is invariably 3-4 white men, one black man, possibly one 'other' man (Hispanic, Asian...) and one or two women. I'm looking at you, The Expendables/The Avengers/every other action film.

kim147 Sat 26-Jan-13 18:47:47

Exactly - you have maybe 4 - 5 men as the team who range in attractiveness - along comes the female lead and no surprises.

In Volcano, the two vulcanologists - 1 was average looking, 1 was slim and "pretty". No surprise which one fell into the magma.

StrawberryMojito Sat 26-Jan-13 18:48:21

I agree back2two. But whilst I couldn't care less what the person reading the news looks like (male or female), I do quite like looking at beautiful people on the big screen, it's about escapism I think.

marjproops Sat 26-Jan-13 18:53:23

Hey Kim147 was asking about you the other day , thought you'd disappeared!

Yes the proverbial bond girl thing.

big perky 99% -on -show -boobs, pert bum, pouty lips and perfect skin, more often than not the obligatory topless shot, totally unneccessary to the actual film, then they complain that theyre classed as bimbos etc.-- they have a brain, they have a choice.

and somehow theyre the ones who either save the day or manage to run around in perect hairdo and high heels. and always so predictable whats gonna happen, as in end up in bed together.

deleted203 Sat 26-Jan-13 18:55:35

I want to know why it is compulsory for crappy pre-teen things on the Disney Channel to have characters who are only ever one of the following:-

a) an impossibly skinny, good looking girl who's smart and everyone fancies
b) a hunky (but often slightly dim) 'jock' type
c) a ridiculously geeky/nerdy loser who is in the chess club
d) a smart mouthed kid who is always trying to get away with things.
e) a very dumb (but good looking) girl

The girls are always ridiculously gorgeous - yet the teenage boys are always immature idiots that no girl would want to hang out with.

kim147 Sat 26-Jan-13 18:57:17

marjproops I have so not disappeared grin

Just look at FWR!!

Trills Sat 26-Jan-13 18:59:22

The attractiveness of women in films is more important than the attractiveness of men. You're not wrong.

KellyElly Sat 26-Jan-13 19:06:52

Uma Thurman is definitely not pretty or even conventionally attractive yet is seen as hot Er yes she is! She's really beautiful. Most hollywood actors who play the lead roles are. Maybe comedy is an exception, but the romantic hero or leading lady are. It's the same in novels, you rarely get the romantic leads being referred to as ugly.

marjproops Sat 26-Jan-13 19:16:59

Kim whats FWR???

kim147 Sat 26-Jan-13 19:22:43

Feminism and women's rights - now known as feminism chat.

It's an interesting place smile

StinkyWicket Sat 26-Jan-13 19:36:51

It's practically law that any American made film or tv series has impossibly good looking (and therefore bland imo) in it. The only exception I can remember is The Killing, where the main woman looked like a 'normal' person, although was still attractive IMO.

I watched The Orphanage the other week, it's a Spanish film. It looked so much more real.

Mind you, generally it's not the physical attributes of the actors that annoy me, it's more the fact that they all live in enormous houses that are (on the whole) immaculately presented. Only poor, drug-addled and - in the main - black characters seem to live in the smaller apartments that aren't perfect.

Just a few generalisations on the last few films I have watched!

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