To think 'hun' is less twee and sickly than using 'D' in front of all abbreviations for family members

(75 Posts)
Bearbehind Thu 24-Jan-13 12:36:12

Spin off from another thread but it is a genuine question.

I don't really like the word 'Hun' and wouldn't say it in real life but I hate the use of 'D' in front of family member abbreviations ,DH, DD etc yet it is common place. I think this is far more twee, sickly and false than Hun.

Why is one acceptable but the other isn't?

Wouldn't people know what you meant if you just typed D, H etc?

dinkystinky Thu 24-Jan-13 12:36:50

But D could stand for any number of adjectives...

SavoyCabbage Thu 24-Jan-13 12:37:26

Damn

Bearbehind Thu 24-Jan-13 12:38:46

But doesn't it mean Dear or Darling in its most common use.

I have to admit when I first saw the abbreviation DH I thought it meant Dick Head, which in some instances, is perfectly apt!

Pandemoniaa Thu 24-Jan-13 12:40:03

It's the element of irony that's makes all the difference.

Also, Hunning is so often a substitute for the much deadlier weapon the hunner would prefer to plunge into the back of their victim.

Sugarice Thu 24-Jan-13 12:40:27

I was always under the impression dh ,ds, dd and the rest are standard internet forum abbreviations and have always been around.

HecateWhoopass Thu 24-Jan-13 12:42:47

They are, sugar. They're widely used.

I find it confusing a lot of the time.

dd - daughter? dad?

df - fiance? friend? father?

dn - nephew? niece? neighbour?

I don't object to them on cringy grounds grin but I think it's only a few more letters to type and it's clear who you're on about.

Bearbehind Thu 24-Jan-13 12:42:55

They are Sugarice, but so are words like Hun or Pet as terms of endearment yet some people on Mumsnet seems totally anti them

Pagwatch Thu 24-Jan-13 12:46:18

But dh or ds is an endearment being used by a poster about a close relative.

Hun is usually being used by a virtual stranger.

So they are different.

If you chose to use Hun between yourself and a close friend then that's your choice. Hunning a stranger on the Internet presents the possibility that it might irritate the crap out of them.

Hullygully Thu 24-Jan-13 12:47:23

you ar wrong

the end

CooEeeEldridge Thu 24-Jan-13 12:47:52

Yanbu, I hate both!!!

Bearbehind Thu 24-Jan-13 12:49:38

Thanks for that reasoned response Hully!

ginslinger Thu 24-Jan-13 12:49:58

No huns - ever.

The very end

Sugarice Thu 24-Jan-13 12:50:13

To me, it feels awkward to address a stranger as Hun and as Pag says there is sentiment behind the d of the abbreviation.

SminkoPinko Thu 24-Jan-13 12:50:37

lol @ DH = dick head!

I've never liked the d prefix thing but it's endemic.

nickelbabe Thu 24-Jan-13 12:51:31

no.
"D" whatever isn't "twee", it's the internet standard abbreviation.

I know it means "darling" or "dear" but I've never thought of it like that, I've always just thought of it as "the"

AThingInYourLife Thu 24-Jan-13 12:51:32

You are right.

A new beginning.

itsaruddygame Thu 24-Jan-13 12:52:37

I HATE hun with a passion. I thought the DH, DD, DS thing was very wierd when I first started mumsnet - I am used to it now but cant bring myself to use the abbreviations.

PippinWoo Thu 24-Jan-13 12:54:41

I can't help it. I fucking hate "hun" so much. It actually irritated me so much it prevented me from ever using the Weight Watchers forums when I was a member.

It seemed so redundant because "hun" was used at the end of virtually every sentence!

Bearbehind Thu 24-Jan-13 12:55:39

I know we can't change standard abbreviations but I just think it should have been MH for 'my husband' as opposed to all this darling crap. A lot of the time, particularly on AIBU, the person being written about is anything but 'Dear' or 'Darling'!

stretch Thu 24-Jan-13 12:57:21

I second the no 'hunning'. It isn't even right; honey, not hunny. Unless you are Winnie The Pooh

AboutThyme Thu 24-Jan-13 12:58:44

Don't like either but would prefer hun over the bloody D. The rogue D is so unnecessary. People describe their exes as "my ex-DH" ffs! I hate it.

Should have a brew eh!

stretch Thu 24-Jan-13 12:58:51

MH stands for Mental Health usually. MP, for my partner wouldn't work either! Or MC for my children! grin

stretch Thu 24-Jan-13 12:59:59

About, it would/should be 'my ex-H'.

I don't use them. I say the toddler instead.

lubeybooby Thu 24-Jan-13 13:02:54

Nah. Hun is efinitely more twee and sickly

I don't thing anyone actually says in their head 'my dear children' when they type 'my DC'

The D first is widely used all over the place. it's handy for making it known who you are talking about and not some random letter mistake or someones initial eg h, c, f,

hun has no use at all, unlike the 'D'

BumpingFuglies Thu 24-Jan-13 13:04:03

Dunno but MN seems to be doing rather a lot of navel-gazing today grin

JenaiMorris Thu 24-Jan-13 13:04:43

Unless you still quite like your Ex-H I suppose.

Bearbehind Thu 24-Jan-13 13:05:09

Fair point on the MH thing stretch. TBH I can't see why it needs a prefix anyway, as I said at the beginning, wouldn't H or D be sufficient?

Ex-DH is one of my biggest hates too Aboutthyme!

RosyRoo Thu 24-Jan-13 13:06:41

It's just a standard abbreviation used across Internet forums. The D doesn't necessarily mean anything anymore so don't let it bother you. It's easier to read a 2 letter abbreviation then a single letter. Barely any single letter abbreviations are used for this reason, for example in conception AF (aunt flo) is used not P for period.

Narked Thu 24-Jan-13 13:42:20

What Hully said.

snuffaluffagus Thu 24-Jan-13 14:53:55

I agree wtih you Bear, I don't likes it!

StickEmWithThePointyEnd Thu 24-Jan-13 15:04:49
GrimmaTheNome Thu 24-Jan-13 15:04:51

People do use just H or Ex-H to make a point.

Hun is very useful in the following cases:
1) discussing Attilla and the Mongol hordes
2) First-world war contemporary slang for 'German'
3) The baddies in Mulan.

StickEmWithThePointyEnd Thu 24-Jan-13 15:05:43

They're a bit too screamy and bloody for my liking.

Bearbehind Thu 24-Jan-13 18:54:26

Some very strange responses- it seems I was naive in thinking Hun was short for honey. Either that or i read less into these things than others

GrimmaTheNome Thu 24-Jan-13 18:57:13

Americans sometimes use 'hon' as an abbreviation for 'honey' - more logical and without the barbarian connotations.

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles Thu 24-Jan-13 19:04:19

Yanbu. I hate it too.

'Hon' is short for 'honey'.
'Hun' is often used in the same context and generally accompanied by text speak.

DH, DD, DS etc are all standard internet abbreviations and have been around a long time. I don't think 'Oh that's Dear Husband' when I read it, it's just shorthand.

And when referring to the children it often means something else: dratted, darn, damned, devilish etc. grin

And imo DH is far better than hubs. [boak]

PastaDee Thu 24-Jan-13 19:11:43

How about 'Hubster' *joyfulpuddlejumper'. Has that settled your stomach?!

YABU. I hate 'Hun'.

3monkeys3 Thu 24-Jan-13 19:13:17

I used to hate using dh, dd, ds, etc and just used to type out husband (or hubby - quickly realised that is frowned upon on mumsnet!), daughter, son but have since got used to it. I don't like hun.

FuriousRox Thu 24-Jan-13 19:21:21

Loathe hun. One of my friends used to call me that and it intensely irritating and patronising.

Initially found the whole dh, ds, dd thing confusing and odd but used to it now. Would never get used to being hunned by a stranger. Shudder.

cluelesscleaner Thu 24-Jan-13 19:30:14

Can't stand either! When would you ever in rl call the kids 'dear children'?

I actually like it when a poster types husband, kids etc.

catgirl1976 Thu 24-Jan-13 19:39:37

YABU

Hun is a word so awful I had to bleach my fingers after typing it

PessaryPam Thu 24-Jan-13 19:42:24

Yes I kind of agree, it's all twee and has been irksome before. It's a MN thing. Hunz is a FB thing, so it's common. :-)

thegreylady Thu 24-Jan-13 20:25:59

surely the 'd' thing is just mn and sets mnetters apart from them over there grin

fizzykola Thu 24-Jan-13 20:35:59

YANBU. It's all crap. What's wrong with writing 'husband' 'children' etc?

Complete clarity and takes 0.2 of a nanosecond longer.

The word 'Hun' in Glasgow can be a bigoted term of abuse. But I can't stand it as it's just so fake.

monsterchild Thu 24-Jan-13 20:36:33

Hon/Hun is what the waitress at the diner where we often get breakfast who sounds like she smokes and drinks too much calls you. That or darlin'.

notmyproblem Thu 24-Jan-13 21:13:21

What Pagwatch said. -->

But dh or ds is an endearment being used by a poster about a close relative.

Hun is usually being used by a virtual stranger.

One is a descriptor, the other is addressing a person. If you started calling the OP "DOP" that would be annoying too.

Terms of endearment used by a stranger to another person on the internet end up sounding sarcastic and/or just plain mean in a lot of contexts.

Hun is just grating regardless.

Tanith Thu 24-Jan-13 22:37:24

I really hate "hun".
I first encountered it in a novel as a derogatory term used for the Germans in the First World War and I just can't get past that.

Tweasels Thu 24-Jan-13 22:43:29

Eh?

Surely though DH, DC whatever is just abbreviation for ease of typing. Hun isn't an abbreviation, people actually say it out of their mouths. I've heard them. I don't call my husband DH though. I use his name.

Also, I don't know, but is Hun short for honey? As a term of endearment? It definitely only used by people who are overly familiar with people they barely know. Like the types who "collect" Facebook friends.

Snot the same fing.

Bella88 Thu 24-Jan-13 22:55:11

YANBU

'Hun'ners and 'D'ers are indeed cut from the same tweem sprig print cloth viscose. Utterly toe curling the lot of it.

LadyWidmerpool Thu 24-Jan-13 22:56:12

I can't bear the abbreviations. I don't care how long they've been around or if Shakespeare invented them. Awful, awful,awful.

Porkster Thu 24-Jan-13 22:59:42

No Huns. Ever.

I hate dh, dd etc etc but use them as it's less clear if you use h, s or d.

Tommy Thu 24-Jan-13 23:00:07

agree with Tweasels - I only use DH, DS etc on mumsnet. When i am talking about them to realk people in real life I either say "my husband" or "my son" or use their name. hmm

I hate, hate, hate "hun" - blurgh

tigerdriverII Thu 24-Jan-13 23:00:23

I am always worried about using DS etc in other forums in case it outs me as a Mnetter.

As said before, DH, DS, DD etc are common internet usage across many forums, going back longer than I care to remember. It will not 'out you as a MNer' although I'm not sure why that would be a problem anyway. hmm

If you don't want to use it, don't. But don't whinge about it - people won't suddenly stop using established internet shorthand just because you don't like it. I strongly dislike hubs, bubs, hon/hun etc but it's not up to me how other people post.

I absolutely hate the usage of hon/hun. It is too personal and makes the person using it sound dense (in my opinion).

For me it is is the same league as:
Lil man
Hubby
Bubba
Lil girl

In my experience people who use hon sound like this:

"Hey hon av u got dat fing we was tlkin abot"
"Ill pm u hon"
"fanks hon xxx"

It just shouldn't be allowed so yabu.

mrsjay Fri 25-Jan-13 09:20:38

NO huns here i dont like the DD and all that I sometimes use it some times not , I do get confused with DSD DIS DSGD I could go on some of them are just daft I usually say the daughters or my mum or whatever

Jengnr Fri 25-Jan-13 09:22:13

Ds, dd, dh etc etc are vile and cringey. Just type the effing words instead.

FlouncingMintyy Fri 25-Jan-13 09:22:57

I simply think most people who use Mumsnet loathe hun and hunning and are neutral about dh, dd, ds etc. Its just one of those things.

mrsjay Fri 25-Jan-13 09:24:57

what I don't understand is and maybe somebody can tell me is, a poster could type a long winded post with huge and complicated words but can't type husband confused nothing wrong with typing DH just wondering

Glitterspy Fri 25-Jan-13 09:25:53

I always thought the 'D' was used with an element of sarcasm/ irony - often the 'D' concerned is acting any thing but 'dear' or 'darling'. Otherwise yes it is all a bit pukesome, I find 'hun' a bit condescending as well.

tilder Fri 25-Jan-13 09:33:28

Exactly notsofrownie.

Hun is awful.

I didn't get the d bit when I first started on mn, used to type in full but can no longer be arsed. I have 3 children and use my phone so writing dc1 is a lot quicker then my eldest child or similar.

I use my phone so DH/DS etc is easy for me to type, also I've been using it on other forums for about 10+ years so it's ingrained in me now.

Calling someone hun is just patronising and false.

BupcakesAndCunting Fri 25-Jan-13 09:48:29

YABU

Hun is a shooting offence.

I showed DH a thread once where an OP was slating her husband. Mine said "Why do you all keep writing DH?" I said "Oh it means husband..." Dh said "Oh well I know what that means then" I said "what" he says "Dick head?"

grin

mrsjay Fri 25-Jan-13 09:49:34

have 3 children and use my phone so writing dc1 is a lot quicker then my eldest child or similar.

I do that I can't be bothered saying youngest child or whatever

Altinkum Fri 25-Jan-13 09:52:18

Never HUN!!! it has so may connotations, going back to WW1, and also in Scotland Ireland people have been injured or killed using it!

Enigmosaurus Fri 25-Jan-13 09:54:15

Yabu.

I fucking hate, hate, hate, hate, HATE hun. Or hunny. Or hunni. Or hunnie or huney or any other stupid way to spell it. It's patronising and it's WRONG.

'D' means little more than 'the' to me. I can live with it, its a widely accepted acronym across the internet.

MiniEggsinJanuary Fri 25-Jan-13 09:55:50

I hate "hun". Didn't we refer to the enemy at the Hun during the First World War?!

MiniEggsinJanuary Fri 25-Jan-13 09:56:34

Oops - cross post!

MiniEggsinJanuary Fri 25-Jan-13 09:59:53

Love your post notsofrownie!! Totally agree. My sis in law uses "hun" all the time and I think it just makes her sound more disingenuous and daft than ever!

cumfy Fri 25-Jan-13 12:50:15

Just convenient shorthand, OP.wink

The dear/darling is silent; the "D" just conveniently signifies a family relationship.

It assists in the cognitive flow of complex events and inter-relationships.
Could be an F, R or any other random letter.

I am confused others take it literally in anyway whatever.

YABU

cumfy Fri 25-Jan-13 12:52:24

Hun on the other hand is a twee affectation ..... and nothing but.

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