To not understand skidmarks (genuine question)

(118 Posts)
neveradullmomentinparadise Tue 22-Jan-13 22:30:14

Seriously, is this a man thing (as it is in my household)? Surely one poos, then wipes until clean, using ridiculous toilet-blocking amounts enough paper to do the job properly. That's it. Am I missing something?

some folk just don't wipe properly.

ZooAnimals Tue 22-Jan-13 22:32:43

Maybe some people are in a rush? or blind? or they run out of loo roll?

kickassangel Tue 22-Jan-13 22:33:35

I'm with you Never.

beeny Tue 22-Jan-13 22:34:45

I dont see how loo roll would get u really clean i think u need wipes

PowerPants Tue 22-Jan-13 22:35:37

I'm with Beeny.

SushiPaws Tue 22-Jan-13 22:36:02

I recommend buying flushable wipes to keep in the toilet. Remind whomever it is that you are doing the washing (just assuming thats where you see it) and you would appreciate them using the wipes.

OneHundredSecondsofSolitude Tue 22-Jan-13 22:38:09

Piles

Poo hiding around them too sore to wipe wipe wipe

Obviously I don't speak from personal experience. I'm a laydeeee

Sorry

OneHundredSecondsofSolitude Tue 22-Jan-13 22:40:27

Apparently flushable wipes are really bad for the sewage system. Our poo collectors ;the council? Water board? Wrote to us to ask is to use some sort of spray that turns normal loo roll into wipealikes

neveradullmomentinparadise Tue 22-Jan-13 22:41:24

I am not grossed out by it or anything like that, but I always wonder if I should wash those pants separately rather than with everything else. Which would be a massive waste of water and electricity, not to mention a tad precious. It all gets washed clean in the end, right? (tea towels excepted, I draw the line there for some reason).

FreckledLeopard Tue 22-Jan-13 22:43:28

It's one reason I am so glad that I am no longer with ex. The delights of washing skid-mark free underwear are worth the pain of divorce!

beeny Tue 22-Jan-13 22:46:01

But u wouldnt dream of wiping any other area of ur body with just dry tissue

joanofarchitrave Tue 22-Jan-13 22:46:20

1. Piles - I've had them since I was 22.
2. Do you invariably know when you have 'finished'? My bottom can lie - I think it's all over, and it isn't. Possibly related to number 1.
3. Why bother wearing pants at all, if your bottom is invariably squeaky clean? Pants are a good last defence.

chickencurryfor7 Tue 22-Jan-13 22:46:33

Men have hairier bums than laydees wot have smooth peachy bums. I think this may have something to do with it.

joanofarchitrave Tue 22-Jan-13 22:48:17

I think 'flushable' wipes (cue massive intervention into blocked drains) are an enormous waste of money. We should all install the little shower heads that many Muslims have I believe (or at least I saw them in a hotel run by Muslims and was an instant convert, at least to showering my bottom).

theweekendisnear Tue 22-Jan-13 22:48:49

That's what bidets are for

FredWorms Tue 22-Jan-13 22:50:36

You're not grossed out by it?

Blimey, you must really love him grin

ninjasquirrel Tue 22-Jan-13 22:54:55

I have wondered this too, when they are mentioned. The only person in this house who might fail to wipe his bum properly with dry toilet paper is DS (3), so how come some adults allegedly can't manage it? (Can't believe I chose this thread for my sole MN post today!)

Moistenedbint Tue 22-Jan-13 22:57:08

Speaking as a lady, I don't defecate, flatulate or urinate.

littlewhitebag Tue 22-Jan-13 22:58:22

I don't understand the question. Skid marks are what you get when you do a mahoosive shite and leave marks on the inside of the lavvy pan. No amount of bog roll gets rid. Just lots of bleach.

beeny Tue 22-Jan-13 22:58:36

U may have guessed i am a muslim.Most of us do not understand how dry tissue gets u clean.

Moistenedbint Tue 22-Jan-13 22:59:54

Littlewhitebag, the op is referring to the incriminating marks which appear on ones undergarments..

littlewhitebag Tue 22-Jan-13 23:02:23

Ah well skid marks in rural Scotland is obviously different.
No excuse for manky pants though. That is just disgusting

I can't work it out either.

But I can understand the piles thing and had never thought of it before but it makes sense. I have to use wet wipes for the majority of cleaning in that area now because of piles sad (TMI, sorry!) so can see why if people didn't they could end up with skidmarks.

Nagoo Tue 22-Jan-13 23:05:46

yy I thought it was going to be the lav pan ones. Boys make them because they sit further back.

Has your DH got a very hairy crack OP?

Beeny: It was only when I was reading up on Muslim countries that I discovered that most of the Middle East, India and Far East washed their bottoms after a poo (I actually researched it after seeing it referred to somewhere!) I remember thinking that it made so much sense and scouted out some wet wipes grin

VenusRising Tue 22-Jan-13 23:07:56

Bidet, or failing that a jug of water.
Do like the Romans do, get a ceramic scraper, or gomph stick, and wash the remains off with the water.
Or just use the minimum of paper, and wash any/ the rest off.

Hey presto sparkling ring piece.

Skid marks in the over 5s are unacceptable.
He should do his own laundry btw.

One word: shart.

aimingtobeaperfectionist Tue 22-Jan-13 23:09:45

Am I the only person to have cleaned with a baby wipe bum wipe then had to use loads of toilet paper as my bum felt really wet and bleurgh?! Seemed to use a lot of wipes/loo roll for one poo...

beeny Tue 22-Jan-13 23:10:53

Glad u were not shocked. Confused my youngest wont poo in nursery as they only have tissue so can cause problems.

Pendipidy Tue 22-Jan-13 23:11:58

Imagine the pants of shitty arse man from Embarrassing Bodies!

<just had to add the words shitty and arse to my phones vocabulary. I have obviously never used them before>[biscuit ]

Pendipidy Tue 22-Jan-13 23:12:29

Imagine the pants of shitty arse man from Embarrassing Bodies!

<just had to add the words shitty and arse to my phones vocabulary. I have obviously never used them before>biscuit

aiming: I wipe afterwards with dry paper to dry it too!

beeny: It makes sense to me! I was a tad shocked later on when I was looking at travelling and discovered why, in India, a certain hand is insulting to offer to shake because it's the wiping hand, but I got over that quickly enough.

Pendipidy: I remember him! And he was too embarrassed to go to the doctor but would talk about it on national TV?!

This thread is awesome.

<admires own soft peachy bum that never does sharts.>

floweryblue Tue 22-Jan-13 23:17:21

XH always had skid marks, maybe because his pants always went up his very highly muscled bum?

DP for 10 years and 2 x DSS, I don't see skid marks very often. Don't ask me about wee on loo seats though!

FlouncingMintyy Tue 22-Jan-13 23:21:21

Adults in this household who have left skidmarks are forced to pre-soak and machine rinse the offending garments before they go in the general wash.

GetOrf Tue 22-Jan-13 23:24:39

Dirty bastards.

ComposHat Tue 22-Jan-13 23:25:34

yes the soggy arse after wet wipes is horrible.

I find a three ply better as the cheaper two ply stuff just smears the poo all over your ring.

olgaga Tue 22-Jan-13 23:25:47

Buy him lots of black undies.

BeaWheesht Tue 22-Jan-13 23:31:24

That man on embarrassing bodies - didn't he go to see dr Christian and there was nothing wrong with him, he just didn't wipe properly? And he wasn't mortified beyond belief even though he admitted he constantly stank of shite?????

I've never seen an actual skid mark when doing laundry and have been with dh 12 years. grin Ds has or had them occasionally but he's only just 6.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Tue 22-Jan-13 23:34:28

Body heat can cause skids. If there is the slightest bit of poo just up there then body heat and sweat bring it out onto pants.

aimingtobeaperfectionist Tue 22-Jan-13 23:39:37

I agree with PP, buy black pants. I've never seen a skid mark on DP pants, don't actually look- just shove in the machine. Don't want to know. My life would not be enhanced by seeing his poo on his pants.

squeakytoy Tue 22-Jan-13 23:42:13

I wouldnt even notice if there were any marks in my husbands pants as I dont tend to inspect them as they get shoved into the washing machine...

mummymeister Tue 22-Jan-13 23:47:53

my dh does all the household washing - clothes, washing up and dishwasher. these are his jobs so have no idea what his pants look like. mine obviously smell of roses even after a whole days wear.

floweryblue Tue 22-Jan-13 23:51:15

thanks oh no, it was meister floating under my nose grin

BertieBotts Tue 22-Jan-13 23:53:49

It's the bum hair. Definitely.

Passiveaggressivecakeeater Wed 23-Jan-13 01:33:21

I think it's just laziness personally.

ZooAnimals Wed 23-Jan-13 01:38:17

'But u wouldnt dream of wiping any other area of ur body with just dry tissue'

What do you use to wipe your nose?!

PowerPants Wed 23-Jan-13 01:46:45

Ooh mummymeister so does mine. Plus bin emptying.

I think it's laziness too. They just do a swift fly-by with a small bit of bog roll and think job done. Well, no. That will work with a clean break but not with the wallpaper paste style shit.

God I could write a dissertation on arse wiping.

bootsycollins Wed 23-Jan-13 01:50:58

I use baby wipes then toilet roll to dry, sometimes I'm really rock and roll and wet wipe after a wee for a freshen up. Poo stained wipes then go into a nappy sack then the bin.

ripsishere Wed 23-Jan-13 03:28:41

We've got a 'bum fun' (hose) here. DD uses it since her friend X told her it would ensure cleanliness. She always moans about having a wet bum after though.
My whole family are far too fragrant to make skiddydiddy's (we don't have a family name for DDs knickers, no not us).
A young man who lives in our flats was seen with those round the bottom of your arse pants which are fashionable and, the biggest, brownest skiddydiddy I've ever seen on his white underpants.
That was stomach turning. DD wanted to tell him. I wouldn't let her.

Twattybollocks Wed 23-Jan-13 06:59:39

Piles. Wiping afterwards with loo roll feels like cleaning a fresh wound with neat dettol. Needless to say I don't alway manage a squeaky clean bum hole. I use panty liners for this reason and am hoping the nasty little bastards go away after the baby is born!

Abitwobblynow Wed 23-Jan-13 07:51:06

Wipes are the worst thing water pollution wise.

Piles, hairy bums and rectocele birth damage (where the bum gets a herniated pouch and poo collects in there) are reasons sad

This is why the French and the Japanse are onto something, with their bidets and jet sprays. We should incorporate this technology into our loos, for cleanliness and to prevent pollution.

Abitwobblynow Wed 23-Jan-13 07:54:20

Alright, somebody else confessed so I will too. I have birth damage so have the cleanest knickers in town can only get a clean bottom by using a hose and washing, and in public loos I use the muslim facilities.

SO logical and better than the western way, from natural position to only using water to clean!

Abit: Muslim facilities? Do these exist? That is amazing! I agree RE the water solution, but for now it has to be wipes, what else can be used? confused

Abitwobblynow Wed 23-Jan-13 08:58:03

Yes Pixie, they are the french ones, with a hose for cleaning. Or maybe I am in another country??? No, I distinctly remember using one at Heathrow.

That is brilliant. I will see if we have anything similar in Brighton, which I wouldn't be surprised if we did actually as we apparently have a large Middle Eastern community here!

cantspel Wed 23-Jan-13 09:09:13

I am not a muslim but i have one of these fitted to the main loo

www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/08/gobidet-transfo/

It is great as it pumbs into the hot and cold water so you get a jet of lovely warm water to wash your bum

gobbin Wed 23-Jan-13 09:24:20

"Keep the wipes out of the pipes" says Thames Water.
They recommend Freshu spray, which you spray onto loo roll then wipe.

VenusRising Wed 23-Jan-13 09:51:39

Why flush any paper or wipes down the loo?
Surely better to bin in household waste, like Cyprus?

VenusRising Wed 23-Jan-13 09:53:31

Have to rotfl at powerpants and her dissertation grin no better woman, just based on MN username!

NearMissAgain Wed 23-Jan-13 10:09:02

I have lived in SE Asia for a while and (I think) have finally learnt the correct procedure....

1. Enter bathroom.
2. Remove trousers/skirt and underwear - in public toilets where the floor is always at least and inch deep in "water" do this while standing on top of your shoes. Hang clothes on hook on back of door (the one you thought was for handbags).
3. Sit on toilet, or squat over hole (require a whole different 7-step procedure). NEVER stand on the toilet seat - that leave footprints (which I have seen.)
4. Use hose on the right os toilet to clean yourself. It requires practice to get the pressure and direction right, but it's perfectly acceptable to spray the whole room.
5. Dry yourself with paper (if there is any).
6. Spend a long time preening yourself in the mirror (optional, but I can never get near the sink due to wah my hands to all the women doing this).

This ensures cleanliness but takes FOREVER, especially when you are waiting outside with a bursting 4yo.

NearMissAgain Wed 23-Jan-13 10:09:40

Ugh, so many typos.

valiumredhead Wed 23-Jan-13 10:35:28

In 22 years of being with dh I have never washed skiddy pants - there is no way he would just put them in the laundry basket for me to do!

MrsCR Wed 23-Jan-13 10:44:57

this is one of my pet hates. Growing up in a house full of girls I didnt even know this happened until I moved in with my (now) DH 9yrs ago.

Was so grossed out I used to throw away the worse offenders without even washing them. Once he realised his favourite pants were disappearing he soon started wiping properly.

I will add that, if it had of been caused by anything other than lazy wiping I wouldn't have been so harsh.

I personally think its gross. My two sons are being raised to wipe properly!

Nooneelseisallowedafergus Wed 23-Jan-13 10:51:50

I always wash pants and socks separately from other washing and at 60 degrees.

For 2 reasons. 1. Hubbie often has skid marks in his pants
2. I intermittently suffer from athletes foot.

So I do a weekly pant and sock wash.

NC78 Wed 23-Jan-13 11:34:55

If I'm at home I have a wash, if I am out I wipe and wipe till there are no skids on the loo roll. If there are no skids on the loo roll then there will be no skids in your pants. I can't understand skiddy underwear either.

Losingexcessweight Wed 23-Jan-13 12:07:52

I wouldnt be happy if dh put skid mark undies in the wash basket.

He would be told to throw them in the bin

Yuk.

valiumredhead Wed 23-Jan-13 12:16:12

Throw them in the bin? Not wash them himself?

Losingexcessweight Wed 23-Jan-13 13:03:14

I dont think dh would hand wash them tbh, he would just chuck them.

Joining the growing list of "rectocele birth damage" posters. Not nice, but at least I dont piss myself like a lot of women do grin

I have one half-hearted wiper. He has ASD and really doesn't get the importance of wiping properly. If I'm in the vicinity then I insist and supervise, but he is nearly 11. I'm amazed he doesn't get sore or smell, but he does quite neat poos. We have so many things we need to work on with him that bottom hygeine doesn't always get priority in terms of which battle to fight. As he approaches puberty, we are encouraging him to shower every day, so at least he is clean once every 24 hours.

amicissimma Wed 23-Jan-13 14:18:04

What cantspel said.

Or one of these·

EuroShagmore Wed 23-Jan-13 14:25:32

I like the bidet system. I never feel that paper only gets one really clean. The Asian hose system always seems a bit minging to me. Surely it sprays poo particles around the place? Plus you always end up with a pool of water on the floor, which is minging.

plummyjam Wed 23-Jan-13 14:56:08

My husband's family are from Pakistan. When I first started going out with him I discovered the lota. Basically a little watering can or empty water bottle next to the loo used for washing with water after, then pat dry with bog roll. Makes much more sense than using reams of bog roll and no skids in our house.

thingamajig Wed 23-Jan-13 15:06:40

My DH suffered with encopresis as a kid, and often gets skiddy pants even these days - it isn't just a wiping issue. He is very uptight about it (was teased a lot at boarding school) so I wash skiddy pants without comment. Ho hum

neveradullmomentinparadise Wed 23-Jan-13 18:17:45

Well, I wasn't expecting quite so much interest in this topic, thanks everyone! I grew up in a household of girls, so just accepted this as a male thing when I got married. It isn't an issue, and I too wash without comment as I really don't want to have that discussion, but mostly put all his pants and socks together well away from my stuff. Would never now put wipes down the toilet, after a blockage a few years ago resulting in Mother in Law and DH peering into open sewer to establish what was causing said blockage. It was back in the days when I would unthinkingly flush away tampons and sanitary towels and occasionally wrapped up condoms. Embarrassing is not the word for the moment all of the above were correctly identified by Mother in Law.

OneHundredSecondsofSolitude Wed 23-Jan-13 18:46:21

I thought bidets were for after shagging? And that's why the French have them, it's all the shagging y'see

thegreylady Wed 23-Jan-13 18:52:37

I use dry paper first then fold a few sheets together and drip water from bidet tap on it then wipe again-dh uses bidet but I cant work out how to sit effectively=yesterday I managed to spray water all up my front inside my clothes-I hate it and I was a pretentious prat when I bought it sad

StinkyWicket Wed 23-Jan-13 19:16:29

I wish we had a bidet. I always think I am clean but often am not due to birth issues sad

Gross but true! Mind you, I do the washing so at least no one else sees them

Clawdy Wed 23-Jan-13 19:32:07

My mum once said kindly "Men are like children - they don't wipe properly." smile

Boomerwang Wed 23-Jan-13 19:37:39

I use moist wipes. I assumed they were ok to go down the toilet otherwise they wouldn't sell them? Surely? They make you so clean that I think I'd continue to use them even if I found they don't disintegrate all that quickly...

OneHundredSecondsofSolitude Wed 23-Jan-13 19:46:41

Gosh, look at all of us you who have been left unable to wipe our your bums effectively by childbearing / birth

And they said a leaky pelvic floor was the last taboo shock

DuffyMoon Wed 23-Jan-13 19:55:22

It get sore though...if you don't wipe till clean...or is that just me

AmberLeaf Wed 23-Jan-13 19:58:37

Boomerwang, they block up your bog!

I had shitty dirty water coming up through my shower drainhole because of bloody moist wipes.

sherazade Wed 23-Jan-13 20:04:00

we all wash after using the toilet in this house.
Watering- can kept next to the loo. Fill with warm water, rinse your areas and pat try with loo roll. DD 1 (7) does her own, I wash dd2 (6).

OneHundredSecondsofSolitude Wed 23-Jan-13 21:05:18

But the water application. It's against gravity. How do you get the water to go upwards or do you trickle it down your crack from above

Sorry I know I'm getting too involved, it's just this thread has struck a nerve. Peculiarly.

Borntobeamum Wed 23-Jan-13 21:19:05

I'm rather aghast that you inspect said item of clothing prior to washing them!
I have a whites wash hamper and a coloureds one.
I just bung each one in. I've never looked to see if my DH is a blotcher or not!

lucysnowe Wed 23-Jan-13 21:23:17

I'm sorry but I am not letting a 'ceramic scraper' anywhere near my bottom parts shock shock shock

Boomerwang Wed 23-Jan-13 21:28:29

Amberleaf nothing compares to what I had to go through when our underground septic tank got full and the stuff spewed all over our garden.

The packet says 'don't flush more than 3 wipes at a time' I only ever use one. No blockage so far.

Goodkingwalkingslass Wed 23-Jan-13 21:43:12

Someone please explain watering can? How do you do it? And do you use your hand to wash or what? Intrigued by possible solution to sore bum from too much dry wiping! blush

AmberLeaf Wed 23-Jan-13 21:50:43

Oh good lord septic tanks are the stuff of nightmares. shock

wigglybeezer Wed 23-Jan-13 22:05:26

I got to like the water jet that cleans your bot in turkish loos, very effective ( like other posters I have been left with post childbirth piles, it is very difficult to wipe with just dry paper). At home I use damp loo paper or a jug of water, washing my hands very thoroughly afterwards!

I think one of those wee shower head type things, plumbed in would be very useful in most houses, especially for potty training incidents and also frail old people ( my mum had to deal with my grannies skid marks at one point [ sad])

sudaname Wed 23-Jan-13 22:13:08

This reminds me of time a friend very suddenly got rid of a boyfriend whom she had seemed very loved up with. Apparently they had been in bed together for the first time and he had got up to use the loo - next door in flat and paper thin walls (no pun intended). So she could hear he was doing number twos which was gross enough but she thought 'well, when you gotta go' etc. etc. so she quickly got herself past that one.
What finished her off was hearing the toilet flush and then in a flash our shitty arsed romeo was climbing back in bed with her.
Or as she put it ' from last plop to back in bed, in less than ten seconds'

hmm envy < bleugh

PowerPants Wed 23-Jan-13 22:35:55

sudaname - that is GRIM.

I don't get the watering can thing either. How do you get it down your arse crack? And even if you did how would the force of water be enough to wash away the poo?

sudaname Wed 23-Jan-13 22:52:16

Yes it was but funny though for years after we laughed about her lucky escape.
I dont get the watering can thing either - l'd do me back in trying to pour it down. Also surely the paper would just break up on a wet bottom wouldnt it - unless youre posh and use embossed.

nemno Wed 23-Jan-13 22:53:50

Water without some sort of scraper does not remove poo from shoes or buggy wheels unless under pressure. So I too am intrigued how a watering can might work.

I know that a lot of water ends up everywhere in loos that have a tap with short hose next to the pan but who cleans the actual hose which presumably has been held be a dirty hand? These loos (in Muslim countries I have been) don't generally provide paper as well.

I get the eating with only the right hand thing but in my experience food preparation is always done with 2 hands.

I have pondered these issues for some time and I am thrilled to find a thread to ask about them.

INeedThatForkOff Wed 23-Jan-13 22:57:34

I had a lazy glance at this thread a while ago but had nothing to add. I will say though that the title is fucking awesome. Everything I love about Mumnet!

INeedThatForkOff Wed 23-Jan-13 22:57:53

Oh bollocks, Mumsnet.

moodyblue Wed 23-Jan-13 23:07:51

I have been lurking (literally) for years and find it amusing that this thread (and half a bottle of wine) is what's encouraged me to post!! My ex-dh had very skiddy kecks but unfortunately ds1 is similarly afflicted so I didn't lose the problem when dh upped and left. In their case the issue concerned the fact that they both have developmental co-ordination disorder (dcd) and problems with knowing where their body is in space. In other words they struggle to understand what the back of their body is doing. Like how you might find it hard to fasten a belt behind your back they struggle to wipe their arses. As something like 1 in 6 males is thought to have dcd this could account for a lot of men's shitty undercrackers.

JamesBexleySpeed Thu 24-Jan-13 00:22:23

Disabled; arthritis, can't always reach properly due to stiffness etc. Try to shower though not always possible, of course.

I can't believe I just said that out loud, as it were.

Boomerwang Thu 24-Jan-13 00:58:45

Being too fat can make wiping difficult. That's why I need the moist wipes.

Abitwobblynow Thu 24-Jan-13 07:10:39

Please please please don't use moist wipes! The watering can solution sounds a really good, clean one.

TheArbiter Thu 24-Jan-13 07:15:16

There are a number of reasons for skidmarks:

1) Bumgrapes
2) Extensive anal beard, making wiping more a matter of rummaging
3) Leaving it too late to go to the loo, resulting in 'touching cloth'
4) Large bum size, making wiping the entire area a logistically complex undertaking
5) Sudden, explosive diarrhoea

I could go on. In fact, I think I'm going to spend the day repeating this post and setting it to beats.

Abitwobblynow Thu 24-Jan-13 07:16:37

Moist wipes are made of plastic! Our water ecosystem is the most delicate one we have, and you are shoving stuff that doesn't degrade down it...

"Wet wipes made from a nonwoven rayon/polyester blend along with cotton in some cases. But most of them are a poly based product" - wiki

<ecoWobbly has an attack of the vapours and moves to lie down for a bit>

DO NOT EVER PUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN LOO PAPER DOWN A LOO!

Wet wipe users promise me you are neatly disposing of your wipes in a waste bin (lined with a carrier bag of course) and disposing of them in the kitchen bin? You know, you do in your domestic homes what is done in public loos?...

Boomerwang Thu 24-Jan-13 07:30:19

I'd best go check what my wet wipes are made of then.

Boomerwang Thu 24-Jan-13 07:30:52

You know what though? I now have a stomach bug which has affected all of my family and I'll read the pack another day because I really need them now.

donteatthefiggypudding Thu 24-Jan-13 07:38:18

since my separation and divorce, i no longer have the joy of finding skids marks on the towels. grin

Bumblequeen Thu 24-Jan-13 08:03:02

No adult should ever have skidmarks. I do not understand it and could not tolerate it.

GilmoursPillow Thu 24-Jan-13 08:04:30

Urgh, shitty towels.

One of the many, many things I don't miss about the ex.

When we first met I thought they were rust marks from where they were hung to dry on the radiator until I had a subtle sniff

JamesBexleySpeed Thu 24-Jan-13 09:50:46

Bumblequeen, have you not read the posts where some people have tried to explain why it can be a bit, Er, difficult?
Your post is a bit harsh. Age, illness, disability can't be helped, but you 'could not tolerate it'. Charming. Hope no one you love ever has continence issues.

donteatthefiggypudding Thu 24-Jan-13 15:11:23

Gilmours pillow Yes yes! i couldn't believe what they were to begin with! absolutely disgusting.

sherazade Thu 24-Jan-13 20:03:39

Watering can solution advocating here. Free and eco friendly minus the cost of a watering can from the pound shop. Less tissue roll needed- usually one wipe or two that wipe clean. You can practice at flushing with plenty of warm water, it's honestly not that difficult- just lean forward slightly and after most of the flushing is done you can assist with your hand which you obviously scrub with soap aftewards but it doesn't seem to come into contact with the poo.

NC78 Fri 25-Jan-13 12:13:54

A garden sized watering can? Or a mini one?

sherazade Fri 25-Jan-13 21:01:44
florry88 Fri 25-Jan-13 21:07:55

iM fascinated , Ive never seen one.

MarianneM Fri 25-Jan-13 21:11:28

I had this thread open on my work PC when one of the managers strolled over to ask me something - I think he saw the title.

(what does he think of me now?)

grin

PowerPants Fri 25-Jan-13 23:08:15

Sherzade - ah thank you - I had visions of a big red plastic garden watering can.

However I can safely say that this would not do the trick for me - I'd need about ten goes I reckon.

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