Cake. And birds.

(54 Posts)
BrokenBritain Mon 21-Jan-13 18:51:12

Ok I have a question. It is a little bit a thread about a thread, but am I being unreasonable to seek some clarification re bad cakes and birds?

I am an enthusiastic but untalented baker, and occasionally I've made a cake that not only looks like shite but tastes like it too. On these occasions I have binned the cake.

It never occurred to me that I should feed them to the birds ( we are v lucky we have birds where I live), I thought perhaps all that egg, sugar, chocolate, baking powder etc weren't very good for their digestive systems. Was I wrong? Does everyone else feed them to the birds? What about dogs, are they ok to eat cake? If I'm going to delight any creature with my cake castoffs I would probably rather it were my dog.

And if birds eat eggs does that make them a tiny bit cannibal?

Apologies for sidetracking from the more serious cake issues at hand, but am genuinely confused.

I feed my hens stale cake. They love it. Especially fruit cake.

betterwhenthesunshines Mon 21-Jan-13 18:53:40

It's never ocuured to me to feed cake to birds. But then I've never made a cake so disastrous that it has to be binned grin

BrokenBritain Mon 21-Jan-13 18:56:19

I admire your skills betterwherethesunshines! I sometimes get the self raising and the plain muddled up, or forget a crucial ingredients, and then it all tends to go tits up.

Cake is fine, the fats and sugar are good for energy, you can feed them
Pastry as well if you screw that up. This is according to the RSPB.

alfrex Mon 21-Jan-13 18:58:58

Very Funny angry

WhateverTrevor Mon 21-Jan-13 18:59:03

You are so lucky to have birds where you live .wink

BrokenBritain Mon 21-Jan-13 19:00:07

Oh cool, thanks binky. I will try not to bake any more shite cakes but if I do I shall give them to the dog/birds smile

CaptainVonTrapp Mon 21-Jan-13 19:00:24

NO. Birds (and humans) will quickly become ill and die if they eat burnt food.

Naysa Mon 21-Jan-13 19:00:56

I would avoid feeding fruit or chocolate cake to your dog. Chocolate and raisins can be deadly.

Birds on the otherhand need all the help they can get in this weather BUT don't start feeding them if you're not going to keep it up. Birds become reliant on certain feeding places and if you just stop it can be disasterous for the birds.

CheerMum Mon 21-Jan-13 19:01:13

Maybe a certain someone could set up a business making shitty lemon drizzle cupcakes for birds........

Naysa Mon 21-Jan-13 19:02:07

Shit. This isn't a serious thread is it? Sneaky shock

BrokenBritain Mon 21-Jan-13 19:03:34

Oh sorry alfrex, I really wasn't trying to be horrible, it genuinely made me wonder.
Hmmm, am now thinking maybe I shouldn't give it to them, am really hoping I don't turn out a string of disastrous cakes!

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman Mon 21-Jan-13 19:04:10

NO. Birds (and humans) will quickly become ill and die if they eat burnt food.

Really? DH's granddad ate burnt toast for years, he's dead now but I think it was old age related rather than burnt toast that got him.

BrokenBritain Mon 21-Jan-13 19:04:57

No I promise I was being serious! I really wondered whether it was poisonous or not but didn't want to ask on that thread in case it all goes poof before I saw any replies.

You have a point about the eggs though, bit unfair on the birds to feed them eggs, as I presume they wouldnt know, hmm little bit sneaky by humans really.

CaptainVonTrapp Mon 21-Jan-13 19:08:06

Serious you say..? <backtracks> May want to get my previous post deleted then.

Unless hellhathnofury is onto something with the burnt toast.

CotherMuckingFunt Mon 21-Jan-13 19:08:30

And to think, all this time I've been lacing exquisite food with arsenic when all along I could have been a shit cook and burnt everything.

SanityClause Mon 21-Jan-13 19:08:53

He shouldn't have eaten all that burnt toast, hellhasnofury . It always gets you in the end. wink

SnowLiviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 21-Jan-13 19:09:07

Ahem

BrokenBritain Mon 21-Jan-13 19:10:50

Well I might have been slightly sarky about being lucky, but the no birds thing did tickle me pink smile
But my question was a genuine one

BrokenBritain Mon 21-Jan-13 19:11:29

Sorry mumsnet, really not trying to cause mischief here!

Right, next time DH pisses me off, I'm "accidentally" burning ^everything. They will never know it was me <taps nose>

Pissing myself at the business to supply wildlife with shit lemon drizzle cupcakes grin grin

In all seriousness, food has to be quite badly burned to be harmful doesn't it? I recall it being on the news one summer warning about the hazards of the barbecue, think the classic completely black outside, uncooked pink on the inside, BBQ sausage. It has to be eaten regularly too to have any effect.

We feed our birds (we're privileged) my mil's scones. They seem to like them.

OcotoAlert Mon 21-Jan-13 19:27:40

The birds don't get a look in.
DH is at it too quick sad

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman Mon 21-Jan-13 20:03:36

Binky Granddad wasn't a woman as far as I know

thegreylady Mon 21-Jan-13 20:03:40

Dont give the dog chocolate cake though-chocolate is bad for dogs.

GrimmaTheNome Mon 21-Jan-13 20:16:31

The amount of chocolate in a chocolate cake probably wouldn't hurt a dog but probably best avoid giving it deliberately. Raisins though - good for birds, bad for dogs. Some of the RSPB foods contain raisins but have a little crossed out paw icon to denote its not dog-friendly e.g.here.

Glittertwins Mon 21-Jan-13 20:38:41

I don't put any baking disasters in the garden (and there have been a fair few) as a) DH eats anything going and b) we have a vicious moggy who would kill any gourmand birds. Bit unfair on the the birds to think they are getting a treat when it will be their last meal.

Pandemoniaa Mon 21-Jan-13 20:40:41

Hens like cake. They are neither fussed nor embarrassed about it being "well done".
wink

Glittertwins Mon 21-Jan-13 20:41:34

Nor am I. I am obviously a hen!

Virgil Mon 21-Jan-13 20:42:22

My chickens had scrambled egg at the weekend

CheCazzo Mon 21-Jan-13 20:44:45

My birds dine incredibly well! I bake every day - cakes, bread, scones - always at least two of those. It keeps me sane and the family happy. Sometimes there are leftovers or scraps - the birds get them and they are very content. I have crows, magpies, jays, thrushes, blackbirds, all the tits, pied wagtails, chaffinches - I think they're happy!

DoItToJulia Mon 21-Jan-13 20:51:00

Arf grin

Pendipidy Mon 21-Jan-13 20:51:23

I see a lot of birds. Maybe its because some other people never see them. They have moved trees to be near me . Cos i feed them. Cakes . I would rather feed them than my husband as they are much more selective. They only eat fresh cake . Never condemned cake .

RubyGates Mon 21-Jan-13 20:53:26

Baking fails have a heirarchy. A strict heirarchy. <control freak>
1. disguise by removing burnt/undercooked bit, decorate with icing / add fruit.
2. turn into something else. eg: trifle
3. leave around for OH to find (will eat nearly anything)
4. Give to the local wildlife. (foxes, hedgehogs, crows, )

Isabeller Mon 21-Jan-13 21:34:53
Shinyshoes1 Wed 23-Jan-13 09:28:59

Regular crap chocolate isn't bad for dogs it ls the good stuff , the chocolate that very high in cocoa that's poisonous to them

ladymariner Wed 23-Jan-13 10:21:08

My birds eat cat food, the fat off the bacon and I hang he chicken carcass up and they pick at that too......how evil are our birds grin

OctoAlert Wed 23-Jan-13 10:29:50

Our birds eat from the bird table next door.
While the local feline terror, from another house in the street altogether, sits on our side of the fence, waiting to pounce hmm little shit

valiumredhead Wed 23-Jan-13 10:38:38

Birds love cake crumbs! And old raisins, as I discovered this week.

GrimmaTheNome Wed 23-Jan-13 10:42:37

In 'Danny the Champion of the World', Roald Dahl says pheasants adore raisins - their use in poaching is key to the story. I sort of assume this is true but have never been able to try it as we have a dog. Shame, sounds an easy way to get fresh pheasant

cheeseandchive Wed 23-Jan-13 10:53:29

I think I have a bit of bird prejudice, I only want to feed the small, cute ones. Crows make me feel a bit sick.

PickledApples Wed 23-Jan-13 12:34:35

Grimma I was just talking about that book yesterday! Get out of my head! shock

our bin collection is only every 2 weeks so we don't throw any food waste into it as the stench gets appalling.

All food goes down the end of the garden 'for the animals'

We have some of the fattest magpies I've ever seen, foxes, hedgehogs, billions of birds, badgers, pine martens and as of last weekend a rabbit burrow which has been dug within 2 feet of the compost bin.

The only things which don't get eaten are oranges and mandarins for some reason, everything else is devoured.

On xmas eve i baked a loaf of bread, or rather forgot I was baking a loaf of bread, and ended up with a brick so hard if i'd dropped it it would have dented the tiles. I chucked it out for the animals and the magpies had a very enjoyable 2 days working on it.

GrimmaTheNome Wed 23-Jan-13 15:14:06

Are you sure its rabbits? We had rats feasting on our compost bin having burrowed in underneath.

envy Pine martens!

greenhill Wed 23-Jan-13 15:29:51

summerrain as grimma says its probably rats accessing the compost bin. I had this when I'd put out of date / cracked eggs in my compost bin. Our neighbours had chickens, so the rats had a taste for them. The local cats chased and killed them though!

Nope not rats, we've had them too.... their tunnels are much smaller (and usually result in me being presented with a dead rat by the cats within 24 hours of appearing). This burrow is much bigger but the tunnel is too narrow for a fox or badger. It's very obviously been dug by something that is adapted for digging too, hard to describe but the whole bank around it has been scrabbled at and the entrance is largish, but the tunnel it goes into is small enough, about rabbit sized! Could be a stoat but i don't think they dig their own tunnels do they? We do have stoats and mink around too but haven't spotted them in the garden yet.

Our garden backs onto a meadow which is higher than our garden, there's a hedgerow between the two which has a bank on our side. lots of rabbits in fields around here and it looks like they've extended their burrows to open into our garden.

Grimma.... we have tons of conifer plantations around so the martens are fairly plentiful.

I'd love to put a camera out there but dp makes the hmm face when i suggest it grin

maddening Wed 23-Jan-13 15:42:23

My dad avidly feeds anything possible to the birds.

We used to have breaky watching them go crazy for it every morning.

He also put our dead pet goldfish out on the bird table shock sad

Crinkle77 Wed 23-Jan-13 15:52:42

I think cake is fine but if you want to feed them on a more regular basis my mumbuys the value dried fruit and puts that out

We had a deer today shock

Ok, it wasn't eating kitchen scraps.... It was out in the field in front but still pretty cool grin

And whatever is living in the bank has made two more huge entrance holes.... At this rate the whole hedgerow is going to collapse into our garden. Guess it really likes my cake!

Pigsmummy Thu 24-Jan-13 18:34:26

Bicarb of soda makes pidgeons explode in flight, does that help?

Out if interest does your husband eat burnt cake? Or children

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