to think people who are sulking that their DC's school is open have missed the point?

(55 Posts)
DancesWithWoolEnPointe Mon 21-Jan-13 10:14:29

My FB feed is full of people whinging that their DCs school is open today, that is unfair when other schools are closed, and that people should keep their kids home anyway and "stand together". These are primary schools that have working heating and a suitable adult to child ratio to stay open, so why should they be closed? If you can't get to the school safely that is a different matter, but people who walk 200m along a salted pavement are complaining. Have we not forgotten the point of snow days - schools close if it is unsafe, not because the children deserve a day to play outside. And what about working parents?

Rant over.

Trills Mon 21-Jan-13 10:15:54

It is a school day.

The school should be open.

The children should go to school and learn stuff.

That's what schools are for.

I know it is ridiculous isn't it. When I was a kid the only time the schools shut as when the boiler broke down. I understand it is more due to teacher/pupil ratio but even so....it snows and people just assume the schools will be shut.

Our kids are in for a massive shock when they grow up, get into the working world and realise when it snows they still have to go to work. My sons school is open today (thank god) as luckily we seem to have a sensible head master!

ILoveTIFFANY Mon 21-Jan-13 10:17:10

Fully agree!!

I'm sulking because there isn't enough snow for the school to close, I want to play in it with the kids.

BacardiNCoke Mon 21-Jan-13 10:18:04

YANBU...but, I was so hoping my dds' school would be shut today. Now I'm hoping they close early. wink

Sirzy Mon 21-Jan-13 10:18:39

If schools are open then that is good as it means there isn't enough disruption to mean they have to shut.

SilentSplendidSun Mon 21-Jan-13 10:21:35

So do they make up for these "snow days" later on in the term? One more extra working day or something? Oh, that will bring out the whingers in full force grin

Sugarice Mon 21-Jan-13 10:21:45

Ds2 is well pissed off that schools off today, he has to go in anyway for the geography exam this afternoon and is missing important lessons and revision studies on other subjects which he'll have to make up after school.

It's i right pain in the arse although ds3 is loving it!

CloudsAndTrees Mon 21-Jan-13 10:22:56

I think you are taking it a little too seriously. People like snow days off with their dc, and it can be a little disappointing when you were hoping for one but didn't get one.

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Meglet Mon 21-Jan-13 10:23:06

yanbu. I think I was one of the few happy parents that school was open.

If the teachers have decided they can get there safely then most children can.

I do wonder if some schools are able to take a hit on days off due to snow whereas others who are having problems with attendence would rather shut and avoid the problem of pupils not attending. Don't OFSTED mark schools down for too many absences? (does that make sense?, I'm cold and brain isn't quite working).

manicbmc Mon 21-Jan-13 10:23:16

We had a whole family of kids back in the 2011 snow that didn't turn up to school for the full 2 weeks. We had about 18 inches of snow but it's a city school, buses were running and most other kids made it in every day.

I really don't want to go to work but such is life.

Kafri Mon 21-Jan-13 10:23:20

Someone put on my FB this am that their child's school was open but that she couldn't get out the street to take her.

Then 10 minutes later...

Put on FB that it was time she got up as she needed to go to the shops.

Well, the snow cleared quickly!

skratta Mon 21-Jan-13 10:27:41

I know. DC all aren't going to school today, they go the same school, because the boiler broke down. On Friday, it broke down halfway through, they had to wear coats and gloves and scarves for the rest of the day, to be told that driving conditions meant that there had been two accidents close by, one more a bit further away, but still quite close, buses were cancelled completely, and their parents were walking or attempting to cycle. Thankfully DH works and lives close by so they didn't have to wait long, but if, like most days of the week, he was working further away and for a longer time, they would be in after school club. They walked everyone in that to the local cafe to get something warm, because of the cold.

Horrible day, but I think reasons to stop school. Compared to wanting them to play, but missing a day of education.

Flobbadobs Mon 21-Jan-13 10:31:44

My FB is full of people moaning that the schools are shut! Thankfully the schools that mine are at are open at the moment, could change though as its coming down hard again.
W had our snow days at the weekend...

TheSmallPrint Mon 21-Jan-13 10:34:28

I am moaning because ours are both shut and the roads are completely clear. I hate driving in snow so if I'm prepared to do it then the roads really are clear! I have a meeting today so am having to juggle childcare at short notice. This is a village school and the majority of children and staff live here.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Mon 21-Jan-13 10:34:36

YANBU

Our school is shut but I wish it was open!

I need my life back. We were all ill at various times during December, I had DS1 off school for nearly two weeks. Then he went back for a week and then it was Christmas.
Then last Friday off, now today - and Friday this week is a scheduled INSET day.
DH has been off work for 6 weeks (self employed and no work) and is finally back at work today.

I was really looking forward to getting back into my routine. Humph.

DancesWithWoolEnPointe Mon 21-Jan-13 10:34:58

Meglet - you are right. I know the upper schools in particular close if it looks like the kids won't come in anyway, as it send their attendance records through the floor.

freddiefrog Mon 21-Jan-13 10:36:07

Schools can't win whatever they do.

We had the worst of the snow on Friday and the council updates were full of people moaning that schools were shut because of 'a bit of snow'

Today the updates are full of people moaning because they're all open.

The snow has pretty much gone, the roads are clear, it's currently thawing, why wouldn't they be open?

everlong Mon 21-Jan-13 10:40:27

One of my dc's school is closed the other is open.

It took me the normal time to get him there with no problems ( have 4x4 though ) and I live in a semi rural area but his school his out of town.

Lots of children missing this morning.. fb statues saying that they possibly couldn't get into school. Which is utter bollocks.

If one school is open they all should be.

Flisspaps Mon 21-Jan-13 10:43:08

They'll be the same people who complained on Friday that the school was shut and they didn't know what to do with their kids all day!

BeanJuice Mon 21-Jan-13 10:43:45

YANBU, it's annoying

thesnowmanrocks Mon 21-Jan-13 10:44:42

Totally agree with you. But whats pissed me off is ds school stayed open as alll other schools have been shut. His has stayed open and we went arse over tit as they havent even botherd to grit anywhere. We had a scary dash to pick him up on friday as they stayed open. If we lived round the corner would not be a problem.

Flobbadobs Mon 21-Jan-13 10:47:09

I've just seen a couple of updates from parents with children at the same school as DS which are making me all stabby, apparently their DC's couldn't get to school because the buses were cancelled. Well yes they were, DS set off from the bus stop with a big group of other students and walked there. I phoned school to check (we're pretty rural and its a long walk). I got through to the pastoral office who told me he had just arrived and had been sent to class with a hot drink after walking 3 miles.
I like his school smile

EcoLady Mon 21-Jan-13 10:48:43

I'm a teacher. A day at home with my DCs is lovely but ... this is such a short half term already, losing even one day is messing up our planning. I've got just four Mondays in this half term so was already squeezing a normal 6 session series of lessons into four. Now I've lost another Monday! I'm now replanning the rest of the week, the rest of 1/2 term and next half term to squeeze in what we won't get done today. Big knock-on effects.

MmeGuillotine Mon 21-Jan-13 10:52:21

Our school was the only one in our bit of Bristol that was open last Friday and although I was initially a bit grouchy about this, I quickly realised that I was being a bit ridiculous as it meant that I could carry on with my work (I work from home) as usual and spend some rare alone time with my husband who had to turn around and come home as he couldn't get into work due to road closures. smile

I used to miss weeks off school when I was growing up as I lived out in the countryside in Aberdeenshire and we had some pretty harsh winters when I was little with week long power cuts and everything. It was ace.

BeanJuice Mon 21-Jan-13 11:03:11

Well done to him Flobbadobs smile very nice of them to give him a hot drink too grin

silverfrog Mon 21-Jan-13 11:07:23

I'm sulking that dd1's school is closed!

tbf, she's autistic, and is not really understanding why she can't go to school.

roll on the thaw, is what I say. she's likely to be off tomorrow too, sadly.

mamamibbo Mon 21-Jan-13 11:11:21

ds's school is shut, dd's nursery is open. we set off, my pram got stuck in the snow alfway there so we turned around and came back,its still snowing so i was worried i wouldnt be able to collect her

thesnootyfox Mon 21-Jan-13 11:15:23

YANBU.

I heard that parents at my nieces school didn't send their children to school on Friday because they wanted them to have fun in the snow. Plenty of time to do that on Saturday and Sunday. Some people are just irresponsible.

MumVsKids Mon 21-Jan-13 11:17:30

YANBU OP. I fully agree.

Both DDs are in school, and though a snow day would have been lovely for us all, the fun will have to wait until 3.30pm.

If it continues to snow like this all day, I am fully expecting school to be closed tomorrow, mostly due to the staff not being able to get in, not safety.

It was a PITA walking to school this morning with an errant pushchair which preferred to go sideways, but hey ho!! I'd rather walk than drive anywhere I'm a wuss when it comes to driving in the snow

BeanJuice Mon 21-Jan-13 11:21:18

thesnootyfox seriously hmm school doesn't even last that long anyway, fgs, you're right - people are irresponsible

SugarplumMary Mon 21-Jan-13 11:24:41

YANBU.

However I was pleased the DC school was shut today. I got to sleep in as they let us know last night grin.

We've had two lots of heavy snow in this area - they opened Friday before first lot came then had to close early - but make provisions for DC who couldn't get picked up- so I think it sensible after another heavy lot of snow sunday night to close.

I would expect them to be open tommow.

PoppyWearer Mon 21-Jan-13 11:27:19

I was so happy our school and nursery were open today. 3 days of the DCs at home and the little so and sos angels were doing my head in.

We had a whole weekend of fun in the snow. Time to get back to reality now.

snowybrrr Mon 21-Jan-13 11:31:51

Rubbish! Half the class will be off anyway and the kids will be too hyped up to concentrate and they'll spend the day on building snowmen or busywork.
But if parents don't like it ( I don't know where you get they are 'sulking' from-do you actually know what sulking means?) they can always say there is too much snow where they live to get in.

Lifeissweet Mon 21-Jan-13 11:31:56

Well I'm a teacher and I agree with Ecolady - it's a nightmare in terms of the work we now have to cram into an even shorter half term. I don't know why my school is shut - certainly no one has asked the staff whether they can get in or not - I would have made it in and I'm sure lots of others would. I am assuming it was a decision based on the safety of the site and also - as someone said above - the fact that probably, not many children would come in meaning that we would still have too much work to make up with the absent children - and the attendance averages would suddenly look terrible.

Don't complain at me for being a teacher - I didn't choose to close the school and would rather be there.

hrrumph Mon 21-Jan-13 11:33:16

Ours was open today due to some parents and teachers clearing the school pathways over the weekend.

But salted pavements! They don't exist round here. It's a good inch of sheet ice to walk down or opt for walking down the road and dodging cars.

Fine for me with one walking dc for a five minute walk. Not so good for those with a double buggy plus walking dc with over half an hour's walk.

MoodyDidIt Mon 21-Jan-13 11:33:48

it is a school day.

The school should be open.

The children should go to school and learn stuff.

That's what schools are for

^^ this

my dcs school is open and i for one am very glad as the thought of being stuck in the house with them like i have been all weekend was not a happy one! (my dc hate the cold and manage about 2 minutes playing outside before coming in, moaning while treading filthy sludge all over my floors )

pumpkinsweetieMasPudding Mon 21-Jan-13 11:34:42

Yabu. Are you talking about people with cars or those on foot?
In my area the pavements are not salted, and are deadly.
My dh had to take my 3 dc to school as my pram will not push through it at-all.

The school is the only school open for miles, the area is treacherous.
My dcs trousers were wet before they got to school, i had to send them in with spares.

We have never had proper snow here, i was looking forward to my dc playing in it and building snowmen and angels in the front garden where i can watch them.

Education is important, but so are life experiences. My children may not experience this again

Jux Mon 21-Jan-13 11:34:55

Dd has gone to (secondary) school today. She is most disappointed, but somewhat mollified by the forecast that more snow is on the way grin

ByTheWay1 Mon 21-Jan-13 11:38:56

All schools open round here today, after closing on Fri..... Roads are mainly clear and full of idiots going along at full pelt, but the pavements are an icy death trap - luckily we have boots and waterproofs, so the trek was not too onerous...

Yabu. I have to rely on buses which incidently are not running I can't get the buggy thru the snow to walk to the main bus station in the town and the paths round here r lethal. And who's going to fund the extra snow money charging taxis for me four times a day? Anyone? It's at least 7.50 by the way.

Snow day woulda been great!!! smile

DancesWithWoolEnPointe Mon 21-Jan-13 11:50:54

pumpkins It clearly says in the original post * If you can't get to the school safely that is a different matter* - if it is treacherous than obviously you'd be right to keep your kids at home. I'm talking about people who just wanted to stay home and play.

snowy - alright, not the silent part of sulking, but the being morose out of disappointment part stands grin. Moaning would be a better choice of word.

I realised what a challenge the pushchair was last Monday, and luckily DD3 is 2 and a bit, so I dragged her in on the sledge smile

Startail Mon 21-Jan-13 11:51:52

Children are children, they deserve some fun.
I wish schools or more accurately the government would get over themselves.

Schools are not the only place DCs learn stuff and experience life. Most HTs realise this and take a sensible view of holidays in term time, playing in the snow and family events. The best ones also know that they are essential child care providers too.

OFSTED and mr Grove mean while seem to understand absolutely nothing!

happynewmind Mon 21-Jan-13 12:23:04

My dc are gutted to be in school. I would have liked a day with them but they need to be in school.

BeanJuice Mon 21-Jan-13 12:32:45

But school being cancelled is at an insane cost to the economy Startail with people having to stay off work to look after them. They have the weekends and after school for fun!

DancesWithWoolEnPointe Mon 21-Jan-13 12:37:08

I agree Bean - I'm sure my DDs would have a lovely day learning in the snow if their school was closed. As it is they have got nearly 2 hours of day light to play it in after school tonight, and I'll have worked today when I'm not on MN and made some money which I wouldn't have if they were all home.

Cherriesarelovely Mon 21-Jan-13 12:45:58

"If one school is open they all should be"?

Well, not really since we all live in different places and the conditions vary vastly from place to place. At some rural schools the bus companys are unwilling to risk driving with a bus load of children on treacherous roads, at other schools some staff may take several hours to get in (happened to my colleague last week) so if that happens but most of the kids turn up what do the teachers do? If there were accidents because children were not properly supervised everyone would rightly be up in arms.

city1984 Mon 21-Jan-13 12:53:37

We have 4 primary schools and our one is the only one shut. Not impressed. Everyone else has to go to work when it snows so why can't teachers?

city1984 Mon 21-Jan-13 12:54:31

It is a catchment school so it not because pupils can't get in.

I quite like walking to school in the crisp snow. I'd much prefer it that they closed on the days when we get rainstorms and it's lashing it down! grin

Mine have gone, I'm certainly not complaining!

Plus the dc have played non-stop in the snow since Friday after school, they will again when they get home. they have fun at school too. they're hardly missing out on having fun.

BitOutOfPractice Mon 21-Jan-13 13:03:16

My kids' schools are open. I kept them both at home. Didnt fancy the very hilly drive there.

Shoot me

RooneyMara Mon 21-Jan-13 13:04:36

It's great if the schools can open as some parents can't stay at home with their children - think doctors, nurses, how much they need to be at work for all our sakes.

If we're able to stay at home then perhaps we should, so that those children whose parents really need them to be at school can have the best staff-children ratio possible? I don't know about this as a thought.

I do feel ambivalent about the snow being a good reason to stay off, just in itself - seems like the universe's way of telling everyone to slow down, calm down and chill out.

And however near you are to school it can still be dangerous, makes children very wet and cold and it's so rare in the UK that it seems a shame if they can't enjoy it for a day.

however we're a mile and a half away, cannot get down our drive, cannot clear the drive due to new baby who won't be put down and I'm blowed if I'm doing it wearing a bloody sling!

Also we had a very close shave with a lorry on Sat when our brakes failed so no, I'm not going to drive anywhere, though I'm itching to go to the shops. We're stranded and so be it.

teacherandguideleader Mon 21-Jan-13 13:21:14

The 'why don't teachers have to work in the snow' brigade really wind me up. It was not my decision to close my school today. Despite living miles from school, if we had been open I would have got there.

When I was at school (not so long ago), we never closed for snow. But then, back then there wasn't a string of companies waiting to snap up claims for accidents that weren't your fault. It wouldn't surprise me if this is the reason why schools close now. I think it is ridiculous - everyone knows that snow and ice are slippy so you take extra care. Trouble is, if a child slipped in school I am certain the parents would be very quick to put a claim in.

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