AIBU to not understand why Brits who emigrate to hotter climates

(122 Posts)
sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 08:56:56

feel the need to go on about how hot it is where they live compared to Britain.

It's like stating the obvious, I feel like saying, you moved to Dubai of course it's hotter than the UK which is covered in snow. But so many Ex pats seem to feel the need to almost brag about the bloody hot weather when the move. Yawn!

Disclaimer: I have lived in hot countries for part of my childhood and again as an adult so I know the pros and cons of living in the sun and so am not remotely jealous.

YouOldSlag Mon 21-Jan-13 08:58:44

I know. I don't mind people emigrating, good for them, but FB statuses (statii??) stating "we're all in T-shirts out here" really make me stabby. Do people not realise how smug it sounds? (I'm talking about my Mum BTW!)

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:03:09

It's the presumptuousness that we all would like to have emigrated to hotter climates like them and that we are all jealous that annoys me.
Unfortunately if I was to respond saying that they would assume I was envious by the fact I had retaliated.

fuckadoodlepoopoo Mon 21-Jan-13 09:03:57

Yeah i was thinking the same thing yesterday. There are certain people putting constant temperature updates on Facebook [bored face]

Is that really the only important thing in their lives/the world. Is that really the reason for moving and the reason for their happiness in their new country? Its hot! So fucking what!

Personally i think its a "trying to show how fantastic a choice they made to other people using the one thing they think will make others agree and/or jealous". What they don't seem to realise is that no one gives a shit!

Pooka Mon 21-Jan-13 09:04:02

I all don't get the inference that because it's bloody hot, everyone lives a much more exciting, active and outdoorsy life.

Personally, if it's 40 degrees I think I'd live a much less outdoorsy life. Friend who lives in Australia - Australian born and bred - loathes their summers because is too darned hot for fair amount of the time, and partly because she has had skin cancer and has very pale kids.

putyourhatonsweetie Mon 21-Jan-13 09:06:40

not as boring as snow statuses

AnyFucker Mon 21-Jan-13 09:08:22

I personally find the ones who spend most time tapping about how great it is, are the ones who come home within a few years

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:08:39

At least snow status's are highlighting a relatively rare event and pictures can be quite beautiful.

AnyFucker Mon 21-Jan-13 09:08:45

*yapping

LadyMargolotta Mon 21-Jan-13 09:09:24

I don't mind this. I quite like hearing about people's lives in different countries.

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:10:55

Saying it's x degrees in Australia in the summer is like a Brit updating that it's overcast. Not really news worthy!

Also people updating about the snow aren't normally trying to show off they are highlighting a weather change that doesn't happen very often.

fuckadoodlepoopoo Mon 21-Jan-13 09:14:46

Funnilly enough its the same groups of people who before they went spent ages trying to convince me that everyone should move there (how would that work exactly confused )

Their reasons were because . . . It is hotter . . . And the lifestyle. What about the lifestyle? Oh you know the lifestyle. So how's it different? Oh well you know cos its hotter. Right. You know so its a better lifestyle. Right. Cos its hotter. So how will your life be different? Well er because its hotter we can eat our dinner outside. Right. Is that it? Well no its the lifestyle. What about the healthcare? Oh well i don't know about that. Oh. Schools? Er . . Politics? Umm. Infrastructure? [silence]

fuckadoodlepoopoo Mon 21-Jan-13 09:15:35

Personally i think we should all boast on Facebook about how amazing all the snow is. grin

LoopsInHoops Mon 21-Jan-13 09:21:00

Do you actually like your friends? You sound jealous of them.

(In hot KL and definitely jealous of your snow, at the same time of being totally bored of all the tedious snow updates on FB).

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:22:44

Funnily I have never heard this

Aussie "It's 42 degrees and way too hot to do anything outdoors" Brit "Well it's lovely and cool here and we're about to go play tennis <smug face>"
But that must be the reality sometimes!

LoopsInHoops Mon 21-Jan-13 09:23:22

Erm, in som parts of Australia they are experiencing unprecedented high temperatures for which they have had to create a new colour chart to show, and bush fires destroying all kinds of areas. Surely that's more newsworthy than the snow, which happens most years at least once in the UK?

So 49 degrees happens every day in Australia, I don't think so, 40 plus degree temperatures are really quite rare a couple of days a year normally, there have been record temperatures this month in many parts of Australia are people not allowed to comment on it.

I walked to school in the lovely (not so lovely very hard to push a pram) snow this morning, they do not close schools in the Netherlands due to snow no matter how much it is, there has been snow every year I have lived here so I do not find it too rare therefore I shouldn't have posted on facebook this morning.

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:25:06

Loops

It's not just my friends, it's friends status's and their friends replies on a thread.

What have I said to make you think I am jealous of them confused

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:26:13

This kind of commentary from Brits living abroad is not exclusive to when it's over 40 degrees.

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:27:25

Loops

The comments I have seen have not been about bush fires but smug comments about being on the beach and in the pool with smiley faces.

CloudsAndTrees Mon 21-Jan-13 09:27:51

When we have hot summer days, people post about it almost as much as they do snowy days.

People talk, and post, about their lives and their current experiences, whether its freezing and windy or hot and sunny, I don't see the difference.

The vast majority of people tend to talk to there's about good things going on in their lives. I'd much rather hear about a nice experience that someone is having rather than a self pitying, attention seeking moan. That's fine from close friends and family when necessary, but anyone else and it's just negativity that I'm not interested in.

LoopsInHoops Mon 21-Jan-13 09:28:00

Also, you are talking about updates from people who are used to UK weather but have moved to Oz? In that case your comparison status is stupid. A decent comparison would be from a recent immigré from somewhere hot writing "Well it's lovely and cool here and we're about to go play tennis <smug face>" Perhaps you just don't know any? Because that sounds like a perfectly reasonable thing for someone used to hot weather, doesn't it?

LoopsInHoops Mon 21-Jan-13 09:29:57

You clearly are jealous of them, or their statuses wouldn't have annoyed you. It's just mundane shit, like people who post about Tescos, their babies, puppy training, snow...

AThingInYourLife Mon 21-Jan-13 09:32:44

"Their reasons were because . . . It is hotter . . . And the lifestyle. What about the lifestyle? Oh you know the lifestyle. So how's it different? Oh well you know cos its hotter. Right. You know so its a better lifestyle. Right. Cos its hotter. So how will your life be different? Well er because its hotter we can eat our dinner outside. Right. Is that it? Well no its the lifestyle. What about the healthcare? Oh well i don't know about that. Oh. Schools? Er . . Politics? Umm. Infrastructure? [silence]"

grin

Ha ha ha!

Wallison Mon 21-Jan-13 09:33:29

I agree with CloudsAndTrees; Facebook is necessarily mostly about the everyday minutiae of life, and that includes weather of all sorts.

As for the 'different lifestyle' thing, well, yes, the weather does have an impact on your lifestyle and what you do.

AnyFucker Mon 21-Jan-13 09:33:30

Admit it, loops

You put a "having breakfast in my bikini" status up this mornng dintcha grin

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:33:57

yes, Loops I am clearly jealous! hmm

I can't be bothered to justify why I am not jealous as you have obviously made your mind up.

Iheartpasties Mon 21-Jan-13 09:35:21

most updates are comments on weather from people who live all over the world all the time. just like it's the main topic of conversation all the time in any office across the globe!!? it's just small talk fodder!!

all facebook updates, generally speaking are boastful anyway, whether its hot temps and swimming pools or any ither topic!?

Iheartpasties Mon 21-Jan-13 09:36:24

*other

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:37:12

BTW

I am NOT referring to people who put a genuine status update about their weather I am referring to Brits abroad who feel the need to comment about the fact it's hotter where they are than where anyone else is in a bragging way. Often in response to someone else's status. Sometimes it has no relevance to the original status update too. There is a difference.

CloudsAndTrees Mon 21-Jan-13 09:37:35

You come across as sounding jealous because you know that people are posting about something that they are feeling good about, and you are labelling it as bragging and saying you don't like it.

Maybe it's not jealousy, but there is some reason why you can't just be happy for them that they are enjoying good weather. Otherwise why would you have started the thread?

No one is asking you to justify why you aren't jealous, but it's interesting that there are plenty of posts that don't accuse you of jealousy, yet you choose to respond to the ones that do.v

LoopsInHoops Mon 21-Jan-13 09:38:02

Bikini? Moi? Not likely!

Yes, I have made up my mind, based on your posts. I think you should defriend these horrible people who dare to post about their weather, because your weather is far more exciting, and you should only be friends with them if they stop posting anything at all positive about their emigration.

Wallison Mon 21-Jan-13 09:40:40

I just read it that they're happy with the weather in the place they live in. I don't see how you can 'brag' about weather - after all, it's not like you're in control of it.

freddiefrog Mon 21-Jan-13 09:42:08

I have a friend that does this too.

On Friday, I posted up a pic of my kids posing with the snowman they'd built (we live a couple of hundred miles away from family and my Mum likes to see pics of my girls). Their comment on this pic was "37 degrees here today, just chilling with a nice cold beer in the garden. jealous? lol"

Erm...no. We'd had a fab day and the girls had had great fun

In the summer I posted up a pic of them learning to surf - their reponse to that "it's winter here, probably still warmer than home! lol"

OK then.

TheOriginalSteamingNit Mon 21-Jan-13 09:42:38
LoopsInHoops Mon 21-Jan-13 09:44:00

You have to bear in mind that they are probably a bit homesick. FB, when you've moved away is a bit of a double edged sword. It's great to see what everyone's up to, but it really highlights the differences between your old and new homes. It compounds any kind of culture shock or homesickness.

Branleuse Mon 21-Jan-13 09:44:15

i like it. Itr makes me dreamy and starts of lovely fantasies of when i eventually get round to moving somewhere a bit less arctic

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:44:53

It's precisely the fact some people brag about being in the pool and basking in the sunshine to try to make others jealous and in often out of context that it annoys me.

And as I said I cannot write anything about this without others (like Loops) presuming I am jealous. it's the fact that the people (who write the kind of comments I am referring to) write them to make others jealous, I think it's kind of sad.

I am certainly not jealous of people living in Australia for sure, I have experience of living abroad in hotter climates and it's not for me.

TheOriginalSteamingNit Mon 21-Jan-13 09:47:14

'I remain unduly delighted by the fact that being in the Southern hemisphere has changed my position relative to the sun at specific times of the year.'

CloudsAndTrees Mon 21-Jan-13 09:47:56

It's not worth being irritated by, really.

There are times that I might feel a twinge of jealousy mixed in with a feeling of being pleased for my ex pat friends and family, but snowy days like this are not one of those times! I love this weather!

Wallison Mon 21-Jan-13 09:53:12

Actually, thinking about it, there was one status update from a friend that was 'designed' to sort-of boast during the time that he took an extended sabbatical to travel to various exotic places. It was a photo of him on a beach with a cocktail, and in the sand he'd written 'HOW'S WORK?' in big letters. Made me chuckle, anyway.

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 09:56:16

Loops I want to say you have completely misunderstood what I am saying.

I have friends who have emigrated who don't do this and I am very happy for them that the climate where they live suits their life style.

These friends do not try to compete by trying too hard to prove their choice to emigrate was right by putting other life styles down.

There is a massive difference and I am saddened you immediately jumped to think that I am the type of person who would not be happy for a friend who emigrated.

I am in NO way jealous of people who emigrate, I do however find it mildly irritating when people feel the need to compete about the weather and TRY to make others feel jealous.

But you have judge me to simply just be jealous of them, which is exactly what irritates me in the first place.

WowOoo Mon 21-Jan-13 09:58:38

I think for some recent ex pats they can't believe they are actually warm in December. A couple of my friends have been doing this anyway.

I keep reading some 'in t-shirts' type ones. They have only recently moved and I'm sure it's a novelty thing. Can't wait til summer when it'll be more of a 'oh my God, it's so fecking hot I can't cope'. smile

But, yes some do state the obvious. Some, I think, try to make me a bit jealous. It works a little bit. Slightly envious of the temperature and the fact you seem to be permanently in a swimming pool but wouldn't want to live in Dubai actually.

newNN Mon 21-Jan-13 10:00:23

Too much sun is annoying, anyway. Don't get why people think hot temperatures are a good thing - it's fine for a week, but then I start craving rain -- not least because I am too lazy to go out and water the garden--.

I always feel a bit sorry for people who live in hot countries - I like the variety of Britain where you can pretty much get everything admittedly mostly grey and wet, but it's rarely extreme enough to cause serious harm.

freddiefrog Mon 21-Jan-13 10:01:42

These friends do not try to compete by trying too hard to prove their choice to emigrate was right by putting other life styles down

Yes, this! I've got other friends in New Zealand and Australia who never make comments like that.

On the other hand, I've also got family in Canada who also like to compete with weather with "call that snow....?" etc, etc

LoopsInHoops Mon 21-Jan-13 10:02:25

Could you just give me a brief outline of what expats are, and aren't allowed to tell you about then? Because I'm confused.

CloudsAndTrees Mon 21-Jan-13 10:09:22

Do you think that the ones who make the bragging type comments might actually be trying to convince themselves that they made the right choice when they moved away?

After all, emigrating is a big decision for anyone, and it's natural that they would spend some time doubting they made the right choice and seeking confirmation that they did.

LoopsInHoops Mon 21-Jan-13 10:10:57

And, C&T, they will have just experienced Christmas away from friends, family, cold and über commercialism, which is hard.

differentnameforthis Mon 21-Jan-13 10:11:17

Oh so it is OK to bang on about the snow & how cold it is & how bothered you are that the schools are/aren't closing, but no one is allowed to say how hot it is in case you take it the wrong way?

I emigrated for family, I hate the heat & I will moan about it as much as I like.

And snow isn't rare. Something that happens every year isn't rare, it isn't even relatively rare. And for all those who post about snow on my facebook are NOT mentioning a weather change, they are saying how pissed off they are that it is snowing again & how they won't be able to do XYZ. So doing what I do, only because of snow, not heat!

I am in hot Australia & on Friday I was in cold UK on holiday. I posted about both, saying how cold it is, how hot it is etc. I even posted saying how weird it was being in rugged up 48hrs earlier, when I was slapping on sunscreen this morning.

I really don't understand people who bang on about what their friends post in their own space. To me, it is akin to telling them what they can/can't talk about in their own home. Being someone's friend on facebook means you get to read what they are thinking, you don't have to do it. You do have options. People are allowed to post what they like. You don't like it, delete them/hide them. But don't criticise them because you don't like what they are saying.

Why is it smug to say that they are on the beach? And you say you aren't jealous? Because that is exactly what you sound like with that comment. And is it not smug to say "snow day, school closed, going to lie on the sofa & drink hot chocolate while the kids build a snowman"? Oh & I am big enough to admit that I am jealous of that!

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 10:18:38

Loops,

If I had a friend who was telling me a story I would not jump in and say well I've got a better story. It's just normal human communication to listen and show interest in others lives.

If my expat friend posted a picture of her children on the beach where she lives with the caption 35 degrees lovely weather. I would internally smile, I would likely comment on the kids and how lovely it all looked. Possibly even ask some questions about the day. I would not say, oh dear looks horrid, glad I don't live there any more, it's lovely and snowy here.

IF I posted a picture of my son sledging I would not expect to received the comment. Yuk snow, it's 40 degrees here we're on the beach <smiley face>!

MidniteScribbler Mon 21-Jan-13 10:20:08

Can I add in my Brit neighbours. Keep knocking on my door asking when the weather is going to change. It's summer your numbnuts. Didn't you think to look up the temperature chart before choosing where to live? Yes it's hot. Yes, the garden is dead. That's what happens in summer here. No, it's not my problem that no one told you it's actually too hot to use your pool in the middle of the day without turning yourself in to a lobster. Yes, sunburn hurts. That's why we all sensibly stay in our airconditioned houses and offices in the hottest parts of the day.

And when I try and be neighbourly and tell them that a bushfire is only ten minutes away and it's time to put their bushfire survival plan in to place and GTFO (Get the Fuck Out!) they smile and say "oh we don't have one of those, we'll just wait for the firefighters to come and tell us what to do." Fucking fuckwits. The CFA have enough to do without playing chauffeur to bloody idiots who have been ignoring the months of television, radio, letter box drops, door to door visits, town meetings and billboards telling you to get fire ready!

BadLad Mon 21-Jan-13 10:20:28

I usually go somewhere warm for christmas, and love making comments like that. Usually with the next line that I hope all my friends in the UK are freezing their nads off. Unfriend the culprit if it bothers you.

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 10:21:25

differentnametothis

Hopefully my last post will clear up my point of view.

But to be clear, posting you are on the beach is obviously not bragging. Good grief, why can't some people see the difference.

RingoBaa Mon 21-Jan-13 10:21:59

I have a friend in Australia who does this. Really doesn't bother me though. Lots of people brag on Facebook.

Obviously I'm typing this having cleaned the whole house, knitted gloves for the kids out of cat hair, baked 17 cakes and finished building the Taj Mahal out of Lego.

LoopsInHoops Mon 21-Jan-13 10:24:08

We can't see the difference because you have failed to give us any examples until your penultimate post.

DancesWithWoolEnPointe Mon 21-Jan-13 10:28:56

I understand what you are saying Sock

IMO There are 3 types of posts on these things:
1. Innocent and honest sharing
2. Bragging and/or snipping
3. self-affirmation to convince one's self and one's friends that one is happy

I have a FB friend in Finland and whenever I comment or post about the snow she immediately jumps in with "That's nothing, barely a sprinkle" or "school here never close" or whatever. It is not longer amusing me. I'm not going to say "Well we'd had some so, although not as much as in Finland of course" everytime I share hmm

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 10:39:56

Yes exactly Dances

WowOoo Mon 21-Jan-13 10:54:53

Dances, I like that. It makes a lot of sense.

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 10:56:24

Loops

I thought I made it clear from the start. You immediately thought I was jealous even though I said a few times that I was brought up abroad in a hot climate so I certainly know what it's like to live in a hot country and wouldn't want to live in one again.

gotthemoononastick Mon 21-Jan-13 11:03:15

A hot sunny climate is very overrated ,draining and ageing!!Snow and robins also not much fun after day one as I very well now know!

fuckadoodlepoopoo Mon 21-Jan-13 12:47:18

I just don't think loops gets it.

prawns! grin I was going to say that earlier but didn't think anyone would know what i was talking about.

What is that name for when people make a choice and try to convince themselves its the right choice but saying that everyone not choosing the same is wrong. You know, it can be about how to raise babies, where to live or whatever. Someone on here knew the name for it once.

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 12:56:30

Cognitive dissonance? off the top of my head. hmm

fuckadoodlepoopoo Mon 21-Jan-13 13:26:32

Is that right? Can't tell because you're doing a sarky face confused

fuckadoodlepoopoo Mon 21-Jan-13 13:35:13

There was a good example of it the other day, a poster was trying to convince everyone that butter is evil, not necessary and can't be part of a healthy diet (although apparently mars bars can), turned out that the reason for this was because she is intolerant to dairy.

(not intolerant if its in mars bars though)

TheOriginalSteamingNit Mon 21-Jan-13 13:37:02

grin fuckadoodle - I didn't care whether anyone got it, I just couldn't resist it!

SaraBellumHertz Mon 21-Jan-13 13:37:35

I posted a temp related status update on Friday night re how cold it was whilst camping in the desert.

Ski coats and uggs are quite unusual in my neck of the woods but if any of my friends want to take that as being smug that we're doing the whole "outdoorsy" thing at this time of year than they can bugger off - my photo of my DCs cold breath in the middle of one of the largest stretches of desert in the world beats the "when will tesco deliver my shopping it's only snow" updates!

Narked Mon 21-Jan-13 13:42:27

We use different scales to exaggerate our weather. It's -2 or it's in the 80s. It's cultural grin.

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 13:44:52

Fuckadoodle Sorry I didn't mean that face, it was more of a I'm not sure if I'm right face!

The Original The link was very funny grin

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 13:47:36

SaraBellum
That sounds great and I certainly would not think you were being smug.

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 13:48:19

fguckadoodle

I didn't see the butter post but that is funny.

fuckadoodlepoopoo Mon 21-Jan-13 13:50:51

Oh ok. Im relieved. I thought you were calling me a twat grin

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 13:53:32

I found this under Cognitive dissonance

Free-choice paradigm
In a different type of experiment conducted by Jack Brehm, 225 female students rated a series of common appliances and were then allowed to choose one of two appliances to take home as a gift. A second round of ratings showed that the participants increased their ratings of the item they chose, and lowered their ratings of the rejected item.[13]

So basically, once people choose to do something or buy something they like to put down other choices and big up their own. They need confirmation they made the right choice.

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 13:55:14

Fuckadoodlepoopooo

No, I definitely wasn't grin I just wasn't sure whether I had found the right expression but knew what you meant.

Labootin Mon 21-Jan-13 13:56:03

I only mention extremes of weather on FB ie last summer when it hit 56 degrees and we fried an egg on the pavement.

I like seeing snow pictures, i have a teeny twinge of missing England ...my children were in the pool earlier and now are in T shirts running around outside. I didn't feel the need to comment as it's pretty much usual.

OP perhaps you need a nice cold glass of something .. You could utilise the snow as a chiller and post a picture.

Thumbwitch Mon 21-Jan-13 14:01:42

Hmm. I was all ready to jump down your throat because, quite frankly, I am sick to bloody death of the 40+ temps out in Australia and the bush fires and the humidity, which neither I nor my 13wo baby are at all happy in - but then I realised you were actually talking about a small subset of smuggers who do seem to think it's all rather wonderful.

Numerous updates on FB this week from others, expats and native Aussies, whinging about the temps (me included) - and one weirdo saying how wonderful it is to be 43 degrees and they've spent all day in the pool/on the beach. Well bully for her! I can't step outside in that sort of temp without frazzling, sunscreen or no, and so my "outdoors lifestyle" is severely curtailed by the weather extremes.

So on balance - YANBU. But I wouldn't limit it to Brits who emigrate out here. ANYone, including the sodding weather presenters on TV, who bangs on about how wonderful it is to be out in this weather needs their head read, IMextremelypissedoffandoverheatedO.

Thumbwitch Mon 21-Jan-13 14:03:02

And I am extremely envy of the snow pics! Would love to be in the UK right now, so would DS1; but Aussie DH isn't at all bothered (although he quite likes snow as well).

cashmere Mon 21-Jan-13 14:11:27

God I know a couple who do this...since it's started snowing there has been a flurry of 'the weather's better here, here we are in summer clothes, here is the weather forecast (mid twenties) statuses.
I think the truth is they are so smug/superior about their choice to move they don't like to think they are missing out.

The shear number of posts to me is them over compensating for the fact that maybe the Narnia scenes are making them a little gone sick/nostalgic.

I'm not jealous - my profession means I could easily work in relevant country.

cashmere Mon 21-Jan-13 14:12:24

Home sick- bloody phone/squalling baby!

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 14:15:59

I have a friend who responds randomly to others posts saying stuff like "it's a balmy 40 degrees here, shame it's raining in the uk ha ha!" These sort of comments have nothing to do with the thread she was responding to either.

I have hidden her now.

FanFuckingTastic Mon 21-Jan-13 14:17:52

I hate everyone who lives in a warmer clime. Dammit!

Be so much less painful than this bleeding country... waaaaah!

FanFuckingTastic Mon 21-Jan-13 14:19:13

Sorry... was having a moment there. grin

sieglinde Mon 21-Jan-13 14:24:04

I lived in Australia for twenty years, and I LOVE IT HERE. Hot climate equals nasty big insects, spiders, snakes, monster lizards, and sharks. Most Aussies love the idea of snow.

I also like the rain; rain is a luxury in Oz, and so is green grass for the most part. And autumn.. utter magic. And daffodils, everywhere! And I can grow roses, and they don't die of blackspot in a week. And I can have apple trees, and blackcurrants, and - well, and and. So when I see UK people boasting of the heat on the Costas, I just think, great. It's a bit crowded here. Off you go. Don't mind me.

Longdistance Mon 21-Jan-13 14:28:34

I'm with Thumbwitch rather envy of the snow.

Could see my dd's playing in it having fun, rather than being at the beach and finding sand in every crevice going.

DonderandBlitzen Mon 21-Jan-13 14:31:37

My husband is South African and a lot of his SA mates used to live here but have now moved back. When they were here all they did was moan about how crap everything was here, including the weather. Now they are back all they do is post on FB about how marvellous the weather is compared to the rainy old UK. Like people don't know before they come to the UK that it rains here! I once asked one of them mid moan why he was here and he said "I came to scrounge a pound." Charmer! It's lovely being able to delete them one by one when they crow. grin I wish i could have deleted them one by one when they lived over here! Luckily my husband is not like them at all so i don't need to delete him!

sockmuppet Mon 21-Jan-13 14:38:38

DonderandBlitzen

They do sound absolutely charming

DonderandBlitzen Mon 21-Jan-13 14:44:00

They were. They were very rude. I wouldn't dream of moving to a country and then bitching about it to the locals and saying how much better things were at home. My husband is actually lovely and i have met lots of lovely south africans. This was just a rather strange group. The guy who said he came to scrounge a pound was actually earning money at work rather than scrounging it. He just seemed to want to be as obnoxious as possible.

FreePeaceSweet Mon 21-Jan-13 14:45:50

I don't get jealous of hot weather as I can't bear it. Give me wintery sunshine any day.

SaraBellumHertz Mon 21-Jan-13 14:50:24

fuckadoodle that is an interesting point you make about the reasons, or lack thereof, people give for moving abroad and is something which I struggle with enormously.

I have a couple of "friends" from home who constantly denigrate my decision to move overseas. They have no compunction about vocally criticising my choice to live where I do and their reasons for hating it (despite having never been) In response my approach has been to smile and mutter anodyne sound bites re the great weather and outdoorsy lifestyle and how "the way of life suits us as a family".

If I spelt out the reality I would inevitably be accused of smugness and insensitivity so it seems I cannot win confused

fuckadoodlepoopoo Mon 21-Jan-13 15:28:01

I guess some people feel the need to justify their choices and criticise others whatever their choices in life.

I find that being vegetarian puts others on the offensive (admittedly only really stupid people) who feel the need to tell me how wrong i am cos its the food chain init.

Springdiva Mon 21-Jan-13 15:34:57

One thing you can do in the UK that you can't do in some warm climates like Australia or parts of US is go places, just jump in the car and go somewhere, and be back in time for tea. Maybe snowy weather isn't the best time to travel but normally you can go to the city, museum, mountains, sea or anything in between but in the countries I mentioned everything is miles/ an air flight away.
And if you decided to head off and go somewhere in Dubai without the correct visas you might get arrested or shot!
The UK does have some good points.
Oh, and you can zoom off to nearby neighbouring countries and be there in an hour or so.

Theres more to life than sunshine.
I found the ones who go on and on about "then sun" and "the lifestyle" are the ones who are second guessing the decision to move.
I will admit to having gone through years of homesickness, Dh couldn't really understand it, and we have stayed longer than we should. My sunshine updates were usually "bloody sunshine I hate it" as I didn't want to be here. But as we are in the middle of selling up those are usually my updates now, I just hope we are back in UK before the heat gets going again this spring.

MidniteScribbler Mon 21-Jan-13 20:45:38

Umm Springdiva, we do have all those things in Australia you know. From my house I can be in the mountains within 45 minutes, beach within 10, snowfields within 90 minutes, city in fifteen, museum in ten, zoo in fifteen, cutesy country antique towns within an hour. We aren't allergic to driving either. We can get from Melbourne to Sydney in ten hours driving, and we often make a weekend of it. The great aussie road trip is pretty much traditional. Australian's don't need visas for most countries either. Pretty trustworthy lot we are seen as!

I've never understood why so many people are obsessed with running down other countries. All countries have their good points, and you can say what they are without being rude about what other countries have.

People love their home countries, but don't act as if it is some sort of life achievement of yours that you just happened to be born in it.

Wallison Mon 21-Jan-13 21:29:29

When I lived in a hot country I actually went to more places than I do now just because it was so much easier and more inviting to travel around and not have to worry about being cold or ice on the roads or whatever. Just sling a couple of clean t-shirts and pairs of knickers in a bag and you're all set, as opposed to even going for a weekend away in the UK whatever season you're in, as you just can't trust the weather and need to cover all eventualities.

Pudgy2011 Mon 21-Jan-13 21:51:41

I live in a hot country and I love it here but by God I miss seasons. We have two. Rainy season/Hurricane season and dry season.

And I remain absolutely seethingly jealous that for every one of the 5 years that I have lived here, I have missed out on the big snowfalls in London. I haven't seen a decent snowfall since I was about 5 and in my head it's all mugs of hot chocolate, warm fires and steaming steak and ale pies.... and just to give it some perspective, I live on a Caribbean island which is 24 miles by 7 and I would give anything to be able to jump in a car and drive for longer than 45 minutes. DH and I are thinking of moving to Canada for some variety!

I would never dream of updating my status to brag about the weather here. Mainly because I'm not a boring and/or smug fucker!

Alligatorpie Mon 21-Jan-13 21:53:00

I don't use FB much, but it seems like a lot of what people put on is bragging "just booked my holiday" or "look at my wonderful dinner my wonderful partner made me" - you don't have to read it.

But I did Skype my step dad today to tell him it was 27 here today, ( it is exceptionally warm for winter) he was golfing in the fog and it was 2 degrees there, and yes, I wanted to bug him :-)

Maybe I am one of those people you are complaining about.

TheOriginalSteamingNit Mon 21-Jan-13 21:57:19

Quality of life, prawns, prawns prawns.

RubyrooUK Mon 21-Jan-13 22:13:30

My relative emigrated and sent me and my mum an email that has become famous in our family. He lives in a country not unlike the UK, by the way.

He praised the new country's food (much better than anything he had eaten in London's top restaurants). He praised the country's people (so much nicer than British people). He praised the country's theatres (nothing on in the UK was ever so brilliant). Alright, I suppose that is all possible and nice that he was enjoying himself so much.

Then he started praising the quality of the road for a driving experience that just "felt smoother somehow and truly more special" than anything he had felt in the UK.

We still read that email just for sheer joy occasionally. grin

spatchcock Mon 21-Jan-13 22:23:42

I really don't get why this would bother anyone so much. If you're not jealous, how come you're so annoyed?

Can't say I've ever posted about the weather, although I do live somewhere where it's 18-22 degrees all year round and doesn't get dark at 4pm ever ever. wink

fuckadoodlepoopoo Mon 21-Jan-13 22:23:55

Ruby grin

Morloth Mon 21-Jan-13 22:27:49

The extreme heat is as restrictive as the extreme cold, more so possibly.

You can of course keep putting clothes on and moving to warm up.

When it is 47 fucking degrees outside, there is nothing you can do to be comfortable.

I like about 30 degrees with low humidity, that is my happy place. I am not sweating, and I like the beach when it isn't too hot.

Today is lovely, forecast to be about 31 so getting the sheets on the line.

I do miss the sparkly snow and frost sometimes though.

Morloth Mon 21-Jan-13 22:29:06

It is the 'honeymoon period' Rubyroo, most expats go through stages.

RubyrooUK Mon 21-Jan-13 22:35:05

It's been five years now Morloth. grin

His current Facebook status reads that alright, they don't have snow there right now but it's still so much colder there than the UK could ever achieve.

I do love the updates though; it's just something I'd never bother with, but always makes me smile.

DonderandBlitzen Mon 21-Jan-13 22:44:11

fuckadoodlepoo's "It's the lifestyle" post and RubyrooUK's "smoother and truly more special roads" posts are so funny I'm now thinking we should all come back to this post each time we see a sneerycrower post on Facebook and add it here so we can all have a good laugh! grin

Morloth Mon 21-Jan-13 22:48:09

That's just a bit crazy then Rubyroo.

I love the first 6 months in a new country, everything just seems so special and exciting and clever.

Am getting old now, the wanderlust has left me, the thought of moving overseas again just makes me feel a bit stressed and tired.

Mimishimi Tue 22-Jan-13 00:18:20

I'm from Australia and we have a whole class of people we like to call the 'whinging Pom'. They go on and on about things are so much better in England - theatre, countryside, work opportunities, travel, history, shopping, culture, property prices (Sydney has one of the highest prices in the world) etc. The one thing they never complain about is the weather. So it is very possible that the same people who are bragging to you about the weather are actually missing home very badly in other respects.

theplodder Tue 22-Jan-13 00:28:31

it can make for a better lifestyle and weather does affect it .

since i moved to Oz a few months ago there's been barely a morning i didn't wake up to a glorious blue sky and a lovely sea breeze off the ocean. certainly sets you off in a good mood on your ride to work along the side of the crystal blue sparkling sea.

nice to see the snow in the uk on tv, will miss snow.

But i don't miss dank, dark, unpredictable summers where you can't plan outdoor events so easily. and yes, 40 degrees is rare in Oz on the coast where 80% of the population live. today it's 24 with glorious sun (again) and really lovely.

contortionist Tue 22-Jan-13 02:44:23

Stuart Lee on emigrant lifestyle / quality of life: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry0Bv1HQRD4

Seriously?! Do you know how many Brits posted, called or made status updates about pigging rain in the last calendar year? Yeah, it's raining a lot... Still, yeah still. What, really? It rained again?

Labootin Tue 22-Jan-13 04:47:16

It's foggy here in Dubai (just to cheer you up .. So no photos of z listers posing by the pool today)

I am going to dig out a jumper (I love the word jumper it sounds very retro)

LoopsInHoops Tue 22-Jan-13 05:29:48

Hot and sunny here... as usual. Nothing to report. smile

lisianthus Tue 22-Jan-13 05:31:25

The human tendency to make the best of things really is a lovely thing. It maximises the opportunity for everyone to be happy.

I am very curious as to where spatchcock lives though! Also (for different reasons) where in Oz sieglinde lived, as it sounded truly horrible. Marble Bar perhaps? I hope where you live now is better, although it's sad you seem to think everywhere in Australia is like that, particularly as you are a fellow gardener.

Diddydollydo Tue 22-Jan-13 05:41:44

I can't really see it as anything to get worked up about to be honest. The ones that get one my wick are the constant running commentary of weather from people who assume that I obviously stay indoors all day or do not have windows.

JusticeCrab Tue 22-Jan-13 06:33:10

This works both ways. My DW is Californian. A lot of ill-informed Brits waffle on at her about how hot it is where she's from. Actually, she's from the north of the state, and it gets pretty cold there.

Mosman Tue 22-Jan-13 06:40:32

Sat in the paddling pool, sipping a nice glass of chilled virgin margarita I can honestly say I hate the bloody rain and cold. We moved partly because of the weather, there's lots of downsides to perth, lots but at least when those issues have been and gone (and most are temporary to be fair) the sun will still be shining.

SanityClause Tue 22-Jan-13 06:43:05

Everyone talks about the weather, but no one ever does anything about it!

MidnightMasquerader Tue 22-Jan-13 06:50:16

YANBU. It's cringy.

Presumably, if other people were that het about warm weather, they'd emigrate too. The fact that they have chosen not to emigrate, but rather to stay where they are, suggests other people experiencing sun is really neither here nor there in the general scheme of things.

I'm an Antipodean married to a Brit, who never posts on Facebook luckily thinks the same way.

FergusSingsTheBlues Tue 22-Jan-13 07:48:09

I found the weather in Spain as frustrating as constant pishing Scottish rain to be honest. Hot weather aint the bees knees....at least when its chucking it down, you dont have to worry about sunburnt babies, sleeping properly, or missing hot food. We used to have the blinds down constantly so ended up living in the gloom a la Glasgow summer. Then we came home. The end.

newNN Tue 22-Jan-13 09:51:29

The human tendency to make the best of things really is a lovely thing. It maximises the opportunity for everyone to be happy.

Hadn't really thought about it like this before. That cheered me right up lisianthus

sieglinde Tue 22-Jan-13 09:51:57

Grew up in Sydney. Lived for months in Canberra, and some years also in Brisbane. Have revisited all three, most recently in 2009. Loathed all three, but Sydney least.

As a toddler I picked up a female funnelweb spider, which luckily was too stunned to bite me; as a teen, huge poisonous black snakes used to invade our indoor loo, and swimming was a bit intimidating as shark alarms sirened and jellyfish stung. Once I saw a yellow-bellied sea snake swimming a foot away. In Bris, which I'm sorry is the arse end of everywhere with bling knobs on, we used to have a hundred plus cane toads on our lawn every night.

I still adore Pacific beaches, but there my pleasure ends. Sorry - it's just over, me and Oz, and in a way it's a young person's country. I could counter all paddling pool tales with the pleasure of any cafe in Milan or Vienna or Paris or London, elderly ladies slipping off fur coats and slowly sipping their favourite coffee, while the slow rain drizzles gently and the windows mist up. It's all accordin, innit?

lisianthus, I'm guessing you live in Oz? In Melbourne or Tas, if you can make a go of gardening? I've been to both. And after a year in NYC and two years in London, the cities are like provincial towns.

(Fiercely scrubs out additional comments about cravings for Golden Gaytimes - that's an ice cream, everyone...)

Thumbwitch Tue 22-Jan-13 11:49:38

It is amazing how quickly the garden can snuff it, it has to be said. Aussie DH's aunt lives north of Brisbane and was away for a week over Christmas/New Year - came back and garden was completely dead. She's in a gardening club as well so was pretty upset (she's lived there for many years so knows what it's like but this has never happened before).
Our trees have all been wilting through lack of water; even if it pisses with rain for a week, it only takes a couple of days of extreme heat to get them all wilty.

Morloth Tue 22-Jan-13 11:58:38

It's funny isn't it? It warmed my heart to see DS1 check his shoes for redbacks the other day.

I like that the landscape is trying to kill me, makes surviving more fun.grin

Have done Europe and many other places, but feel wrong anywhere else for too long these days.

Morloth Tue 22-Jan-13 12:00:47

Survival of the fittest in my garden, the lavender appears to be winning.

I don't water gardens, just can't bring myself to do it.

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