to wonder why bored twats want to troll a site like Mumsnet, of all things.

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GetOrf Sun 20-Jan-13 19:07:33

'Let's go and wind up some mums'

Aside from the deliberate and nasty trolling of the feminist board, what possesses people to come over here on the wind up?

Is it really that thrilling to get a load of potentially outraged responses from a load of strangers?

Wankers.

TheVermiciousKnid Sun 20-Jan-13 19:15:13

Bizarre, isn't it. Sad little tossers.

There certainly seems to have been an influx of trolls over the last few days. And a lot of either sock puppets or a group of trolls posted on each others' threads. Really quite sad. And they're all so bloody obvious!

So, what the collective noun for a group of trolls?

giraffesCantGoFirstFooting Sun 20-Jan-13 19:16:09

I am bored and ill could do with reading these threads!

manicbmc Sun 20-Jan-13 19:18:59

Collectively - a Twat. A twat of Trolls. grin

They don't just do it here. They get their sad kicks from doing it all over the internet.

Not enough fibre in their diet, probably.

Sunnywithshowers Sun 20-Jan-13 19:19:53

I think the clue is in your title. 'Bored' and 'twats'. smile

ledkr Sun 20-Jan-13 19:28:47

I often wonder why anyone bothers to troll at all on any site when the Internet is so vast and interesting. There are so many other things to do.

Tallalime Sun 20-Jan-13 19:30:13

It's a Gruff of trolls isn't it.

HoneyDragon Sun 20-Jan-13 19:30:48

What I don't get is why they bother on here. Your average Mnetter can be much more obnoxious than even the most hardcore troll.

TheVermiciousKnid Sun 20-Jan-13 19:31:18

I'm not sure. Maybe it's a boredom of trolls?

manicbmc Sun 20-Jan-13 19:31:35

True. grin

There one trying to derail trinityrhinos knitting thread! I have officially seen it all on MN!

gimmecakeandcandy Sun 20-Jan-13 19:33:47

They are sad little losers that is why! Always amazes me that people waste their time making stories up. I mean, how sad they must be! Pathetic!

Is coz we're the cool gang innit.

prettypolly1 Sun 20-Jan-13 19:37:36

Agreed.

I am fairly new here (joined a while ago but just been spectating!) and the trolls are just so obvious.

Complete wankers who need to do something more useful with their time.

<arf>

but it is funny when everyone piles in

[fond school memories]

but agree, very strange

Latara Sun 20-Jan-13 19:39:55

They are wankers but i wish i could be better at spotting them...

GetOrf Sun 20-Jan-13 19:43:04

lol at 'twat of trolls'

I know - there is so much to do on the internet, why deliberately go on a site and make some shit up in order to get a reaction?

They are like the kids at school who lied and said that their dad was a millionaire who was friends with pop stars. Attention seeking friendless morons.

TheVermiciousKnid Sun 20-Jan-13 19:45:41

How about a twatwankgruffery of trolls? Or twatgruffwankery?

Trills Sun 20-Jan-13 19:47:24

You get a better class of wound-up-ness here.

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usualsuspect Sun 20-Jan-13 19:55:34

Sad tways.

usualsuspect Sun 20-Jan-13 19:56:48

twats* This stupid kindle

manormuppet Sun 20-Jan-13 19:56:50

Oh dear

FairyJen Sun 20-Jan-13 19:57:19

Oo ma'ams, very proper!

TheVermiciousKnid Sun 20-Jan-13 19:58:45

Aw, and here are two of the sad little gits! Aren't they cute. smile

BarryAdmin Sun 20-Jan-13 19:58:50

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Flossiechops Sun 20-Jan-13 20:01:15

^^ wtf!

manormuppet Sun 20-Jan-13 20:01:18

I bet your dick is tiny and limp.
Off you trot back to mummy now.

TheVermiciousKnid Sun 20-Jan-13 20:01:54

And another one. smile Aw, sweet little trollikins.

BarryAdmin Sun 20-Jan-13 20:02:09

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FairyJen Sun 20-Jan-13 20:02:13

Is anyone here just to read the thread deleted message from MNHQ?

prettypolly1 Sun 20-Jan-13 20:02:24

Wrong thread Barry?

Or....?

baremadness Sun 20-Jan-13 20:02:35

Well there is a post on here that just begs for oh so many "just like yo mama" jokes. But I wont because i would get deleted am far too grown up.

HoneyDragon Sun 20-Jan-13 20:03:15

How do you get Puffin chunks?

Do you carve them or inflate them till they pop?

GetOrf Sun 20-Jan-13 20:03:41

Christ there are two people who don't have a fully functioning sex-life.

Is there nothing else going on in Penge tonight?

manormuppet Sun 20-Jan-13 20:04:12

Sorry but why do these wankers have nothing better to >
Off you go BOYS the snookers on....

manormuppet Sun 20-Jan-13 20:04:58

Oh sorry and just to clarify my comments are to "Barry"

HecateWhoopass Sun 20-Jan-13 20:05:44

I think they do it because they can.

because it's a busy site, so they will get lots of responses.

because we ALWAYS take the bait, even though MNHQ are on their knees pleading with us not to grin

Because our language would make a sailor blush wink

and because they are sad bastards who have never satisfied anyone sexually in their entire lives and it gives them something to do between eating their lonely little microwave meal for one and watching the freeview porn on sky.

hmm

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GetOrf Sun 20-Jan-13 20:07:26

This isn't particularly a thread about that thread about drugs.

Just there seems to be a load of shite on here today - extraordinary situations which are scarcely believable.

manormuppet Sun 20-Jan-13 20:07:28

<stands and applauds hecate>

manicbmc Sun 20-Jan-13 20:07:58

I'd rather eat my own foot.

baremadness Sun 20-Jan-13 20:08:52

Hec we have only crossed paths with me under this name a couple of times. But I have to say I BLOODY LUFFS YOU

HoneyDragon Sun 20-Jan-13 20:10:02

Does anyone want to take a dusty subtance and let me into their sex tornado

Have you tried a Miele?

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scottishmummy Sun 20-Jan-13 20:11:02

you're so distressed,aghast etc that you start a thread.that's just keeping it goin
it's bitty attention seeking of you,and inevitably will result in spat
instead of goading and mixing it,just alert mnhq.unless you likey the drama

Sherbet dib dab please

manicbmc Sun 20-Jan-13 20:11:47

What HoneyDragon said.

NippyDrips Sun 20-Jan-13 20:12:25

Wow, i never usually spot trolls but they are wearing neon signs tonight!

KerryKetosis Sun 20-Jan-13 20:12:44

oh FFS. I've been here all bleeding day and still miss the action hmm

<sticks luffly lickle troll on end of pencil>

CryptoFascist Sun 20-Jan-13 20:13:37

Interesting the level of vitriol and misogyny aimed at women who happen to be parents. Some people really do have issues. Mummy not breastfeed you for long enough? Or perhaps too long? Hard to correctly gauge the optimum lactation time. Now there's a thread idea. Given that you're on sojourn from a comedy forum, one would anticipate slightly less flaccid material. Disappointing. But I'm sure you're no strangers to disappointment. Or flaccidity.

usualsuspect Sun 20-Jan-13 20:15:43

So it's a game to see how many user names from your forum you can say on MN.

How original....

Trolls have many sub types. This lot are the common or garden pissabouts, and therefore not so bad. IMO, of course.

GetOrf Sun 20-Jan-13 20:17:05

I am not distressed or aghast SM. Where on earth does it say that in my OP.

I have just stated that this is not specifically about one thread, but about loads of different trolling today. And I genuinely do wonder why people would want to specifically come on here on the wind up. It's a perfectly acceptable topic of conversation. Jesus you are so incredibly tiresome sometimes.

manicbmc Sun 20-Jan-13 20:17:10

Not very funny though, are they?

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prettypolly1 Sun 20-Jan-13 20:19:00

The MN name dropping game, that's a new one.... hmm

GetOrf Sun 20-Jan-13 20:19:13

There was a very strange one today. Thread called 'this will be deleted immediately' - very odd OP who said she had been banned loads of times under different email addresses. MN deleted it in about 5 mins. Or I imagined it. grin

canadagoose Sun 20-Jan-13 20:19:35

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LadyBeagleEyes Sun 20-Jan-13 20:20:06

They really aren't very funny are they manic?
If any of them had a modicum of wit I might laugh and ignore, but this lot are the troll z list.

GetOrf Sun 20-Jan-13 20:20:31

No vitriol canada?

Look at droopy drawers up the thread. One of your mates. No misogyny in that post then?

TheVermiciousKnid Sun 20-Jan-13 20:21:30

Oh dear. A serious case of troll fail.

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Portofino Sun 20-Jan-13 20:24:47

I think that this site has a high traffic rate and so many people are genuinely NICE. So they will give the benefit of the doubt and reply in a well meaning manner. It makes me cross that so many take the piss and MN are genuinely unable to prove anything - but yet you cannot SAY anything, or you are an evil trollhunter.

manicbmc Sun 20-Jan-13 20:25:01

What is scary - one day these lads (and it will be boys) might be parents too.

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prettypolly1 Sun 20-Jan-13 20:27:56

Can someone link to the troll threads? I could do with a laugh!

TheVermiciousKnid Sun 20-Jan-13 20:28:25

The thing is, on the drugs thread some of you eejits have actually upset people who have been in similar situations or know others who have been.

How very witty. sad

scottishmummy Sun 20-Jan-13 20:30:11

you're loving all the omg,you could quietly report,but chose to ask why,why
tiresome is knowing mnhq advice is don't engage trolls.you've decided start thread
I'm thinking you like bit Trollery as you can get all het up.thats tiresome and preictable

ZooAnimals Sun 20-Jan-13 20:30:19

because they get a lot of attention.

We can't ignore them and report we have to post '0/10' or biscuit or a colourful insult. They always end up at the top of the list, whilst the slightly boring but genuine ones languish on page 4 with 2 posts.

And then the thread gets deleted and there 5 new threads asking what happened to the old thread.

And then someone starts a thread about why they needed to troll in the first place.

If no-one responded it would fall of the board and they'd go elsewhere.

Reaa Sun 20-Jan-13 20:31:08

Sorry if I sound really thick but what's a troll?

Nagoo Sun 20-Jan-13 20:31:58

I am just hanging around to see the HQ deletion notice. I haven't had a good one yet.

Cortana Sun 20-Jan-13 20:32:52

Only here for the deletion message TBH....

prettypolly1 Sun 20-Jan-13 20:33:23

I have seen the drugs thread.

If that is a troll whoever came up with it needs to find something better to do with their time.

Trolls cannot understand that what they do/say may upset others. IT's just not right.

scottishmummy Sun 20-Jan-13 20:33:47

troll,makes stuff up or deliberately provocative to get reaction
best ignored.mnhq advice is always ignore

RandallPinkFloyd Sun 20-Jan-13 20:35:00

Oh, did we get invaded again?

I missed it. I always miss stuff. I really should pay more attention.

I feel bad that I wasn't listing when they took valuable time away from World of Warcraft (or whatever it is they normally do) to come here and be hysterically funny.

It's a bit like when a child pulls a funny face and shouts mum mum mum mum mum mum mum mum, and by the time you turn round they've given up and are just stood there looking all demoralised.

AnyFucker Sun 20-Jan-13 20:35:21

well, every single time I have done the "wtf" response I have been proved right

MN users as a whole need to tune their bullshitometer...for some it is seriously fucked

for those with a reputation of being a hard assed d...see how many threads they are on where they got a "you are so mean, nest of vipers" backlash

and see how many of those threads got deleted for being "outside of talk guidelines"

there was one just yesterday...a few naive people rocked up to say "you are being mean"

within an hour the thread was gone

happens time and time again

AnyFucker Sun 20-Jan-13 20:35:46

hard assed poster

GetOrf Sun 20-Jan-13 20:36:33

Lots of oddbod threads today.

Just end up ignoring half the bollocks, look hmm at it and leave the thread looking for someone normal to talk to.

Reaa Sun 20-Jan-13 20:36:38

Thank you Scottishmummy

GetOrf Sun 20-Jan-13 20:37:46

I just read that post - seems that calling someone droopy drawers is really upsetting. grin

Nigel, is that you?

manicbmc Sun 20-Jan-13 20:38:08

Randall, I like to play World of Warcraft. Most of the people I know who play are over 25 and wouldn't bother taking time out to troll a parenting site.

Minecraft - now that's different.

RandallPinkFloyd Sun 20-Jan-13 20:40:09

Oops, soz manic grin

manicbmc Sun 20-Jan-13 20:40:58

grin

So which rock forum did they crawl out from under come from this time? Are their forums just too dull?

Also, I spent ages (all of 30 seconds) making a very funny version of google translate for that last thread and it got deleted before everyone got to see it sad

ps. more like CoD than WoW <games snob>

Cortana Sun 20-Jan-13 20:45:26

Agreed Manic, WOW is a world of fun, why pull away to go troll someones Mam? grin There are monsters to be killed there, quests to be completed, pandas to protect!

Portofino Sun 20-Jan-13 20:46:04

This is the internet. Some people share stuff that they just should not, in response to some threads. I think people think oh, MN, nice and fluffy and about babies and all, and there are some DEAD ODD threads where people seem to be queuing up to share their experiences. This IS NOT compulsory.

montage Sun 20-Jan-13 20:47:38

I think some people have an idea about what "kind of person" posts on MN, and for some reason they feel the need to seek attention from/wind-up the sort of person they are picturing. The media stereotype of "the typical mumsnetter" probably triggers them. Although they are trying to get a response from an imaginary stereotype in most cases.

Or perhaps they are just hungry and like the biscuits.

manicbmc Sun 20-Jan-13 20:49:33

Cortana, dailies to do. Raids to complete. grin

AnyFucker Sun 20-Jan-13 20:50:36

There is some serious oversharing goes on here. Most of it not real. Som eof it is real...and the most concerning of all.

ResolutelyCheeky Sun 20-Jan-13 20:51:46

I saw it murder, it was good grin

SkeletonButterfly Sun 20-Jan-13 20:51:51

I want to see the MNHQ deletion message grin

atacareercrossroads Sun 20-Jan-13 20:52:35

Server must be down on COD

ResolutelyCheeky grin

"I want to see the MNHQ deletion message"

On this thread or the other? On the other it just said "trollhunting", lazy effort I thought wink

baremadness Sun 20-Jan-13 21:01:07

Portofino you are quite right that sharing is not compulsory. The problem with that is that for people who have gone throught hard times i.e. most people at some point they realise how lonely those times can be.

Trying to help someone through similar circumstances, so they are not so alone treading the path, can be such a grwat comfort to both parties.

Trolls make people reluctant to sharr and support and that could be taking a lifeline away from people really in need.

This lot are fuck abouts and fairly obvious ones at that. They are not the worst kind of troll but they are an iritating reminder.

HoneyDragon Sun 20-Jan-13 21:11:59

I like over sharing. Over sharing results in Cunt worms. And they are funny.

Portofino Sun 20-Jan-13 21:25:13

baremadness, I am not talking about "hardtimes" I am talking about the dead odd threads where poster is keen to hear of others experiences of...xyz. And there is the view that MN IS THE ONLY PLACE that posters can go for help. This is not true. This is a web forum. we are NOT responsible for other people. There is wonderful advice available here, but that is all it is. And that is all it should be.

IamtheZombie Sun 20-Jan-13 22:03:27

If MN wasn't so slow tonight, Zombie might have seen some of the fun. As it is she didn't.

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AnyFucker Sun 20-Jan-13 22:16:44

what have you done, CG

c'mom, fess up, you will feel better smile

ScrambledSmegs Sun 20-Jan-13 22:16:50

Maybe they have mummy issues? They never got enough attention from their own, so they've come to get ours by acting up like brattish toddlers smearing the contents of their nappies over our walls.

LadyBeagleEyes Sun 20-Jan-13 22:17:52

I wouldn't have been bothered if you'd been funny Canada, we've had some funny trolls on here.
Unfortunately you're not one of them.

baremadness Sun 20-Jan-13 22:22:33

Yep all we talk about it cat shit and baking. There are no PEOPLE (I was gonna say women but men come there too) who are in violent relationships, suffering physical or mental health problems, have sick children, children with special needs.

Maybe you should read around a bit more and see that people do support each other through horrors that you could not possibly imagine. Have a look at some ofthe blanket threads. Then come back and tell us this place doesnt matter.

BiteTheTopsOffIcedGems Sun 20-Jan-13 22:39:57

canadagoose you are a sarcastic wanker.

Defensive much canadagoose?

HecateWhoopass Mon 21-Jan-13 06:43:03

mumsnet doesn't matter is really saying the people here don't matter. Because 'mumsnet' is a bit of code in cyberspace. It is the people that are here that make mumsnet. The code doesn't give a shit, that's true. A bit of space on the WWW is only really important to the people who are making money from it grin But how sly it always is to shrug and say that it doesn't matter cos it's only the internet/a forum. It's not real etc.

When it's people. People who are real. With feelings. Someone who says such things should at least have the guts to come right out and say it and not hide behind ridiculous claims. Just say it. "YOU don't matter. I don't know you. There are no consequences for me. I KNOW you are actual people and I enjoy what I do to you. It is a pleasure for me if I manage to get under your skin."

Because they won't ever have to face the people involved, they think that it's safe for them to be verbally (iyswim grin ) abusive, that it's safe for them to pretend to be in all sorts of situations and have people waste their time and yes, sometimes share their own pain in the mistaken belief that it will help someone they think they can relate to.

It's a laugh, innit?

They do it because they can. And they do it knowing that it's other people they are doing it to.

That's why they do it. To mock and in some cases, to hurt. Cos they want to.

All the things they'd do to people face to face if it didn't mean they'd face consequences - such as a punch in the gob.

When you see someone on the net - you see the core of them. You get a glimpse of who they would be in life if there were no consequences for them. You really see who is a shit.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Mon 21-Jan-13 07:14:14

Great post, Hecate.

Poor MNHQ, they invented the deletion funnies to give us a bit of a giggle occasionally and now they have to be funny all the time grin

Cortana Mon 21-Jan-13 09:00:19

I would like the deletion to read "MNHQ agree with Hecate"

AnyFucker Mon 21-Jan-13 09:05:00

Perhaps we could ask the person who is currently resurrecting old "my husband used escorts" threads the answer to this question. Mind you, the reason is clear here....to advertise escort sites

MotherSuperiorHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 21-Jan-13 09:09:59

AnyFucker

Perhaps we could ask the person who is currently resurrecting old "my husband used escorts" threads the answer to this question. Mind you, the reason is clear here....to advertise escort sites

Morning. Have you reported this one, AnyF? We'd be most grateful if you could please...

RandallPinkFloyd Mon 21-Jan-13 09:12:20

Applauds hec

AnyFucker Mon 21-Jan-13 09:13:18

Helen, yep

GetOrf Mon 21-Jan-13 10:24:27

Helen - I know it is a moot point and probably no. 865294 of the most important things in my life to worry about, but it is a bit annoying where a thread is deleted with an annoyed comment 'this was full of troll hunting'. It was full of people being exasperated, but I (and others presumably) reported it, and it actually was full of trolls. So people play by the rules and still feel like naughty children when we haven't actually done anything wrong. Just tried to have a conversation like normal people and avoid the complete lunchpackets who troll the site.

MotherSuperiorHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 21-Jan-13 10:27:41

GetOrf

Helen - I know it is a moot point and probably no. 865294 of the most important things in my life to worry about, but it is a bit annoying where a thread is deleted with an annoyed comment 'this was full of troll hunting'. It was full of people being exasperated, but I (and others presumably) reported it, and it actually was full of trolls. So people play by the rules and still feel like naughty children when we haven't actually done anything wrong. Just tried to have a conversation like normal people and avoid the complete lunchpackets who troll the site.

Yes, GetOrf, I'm glad you brought that up.

The wrong deletion message was put on that thread (unfortunately, at the moment, we have no way to retrieve and edit them if the wrong message is put out initially).

But, just fyi, we would always hope to say in the deletion message/in our post before deleting if we know the hairy of hand have been at work.

Apols for the cock-up last night.

amillionyears Mon 21-Jan-13 10:33:40

I am still of the opinion, rightly or wrongly, that when a troll is suspected, that at least one person should say so.
to help some people like me, to be alert
I sometimes spot them, and occasionally before others, but other times dont spot them. [I am a bit of a mixed bag in this respect].

manicbmc Mon 21-Jan-13 10:35:39

There have been so many over the weekend. I blame the weather and bored teens.

I reported a few threads and individuals yesterday.

MotherSuperiorHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 21-Jan-13 10:38:47

amillionyears

I am still of the opinion, rightly or wrongly, that when a troll is suspected, that at least one person should say so.
to help some people like me, to be alert
I sometimes spot them, and occasionally before others, but other times dont spot them. [I am a bit of a mixed bag in this respect].

No, that would SERIOUSLY break our site rules, amillionyears. Voicing the opinion that any poster is/may be a troll is trollhunting and breaks our Talk Guidelines.

It's not helpful for two reasons:

* 1. If the poster under suspicion is not a troll, it can be hugely upsetting. Trollhunting of genuine MNers has happened, and we know from our inbox how hurtful this can be.

* 2. Voicing your suspicions on the thread won't do anything to hasten the poster's removal from MN, if they are indeed a troll. The only way to make that happen (if it needs to happen) is to report the poster to us at MNHQ.

baremadness Mon 21-Jan-13 10:42:20

Manic the most disturbing bit is that, from the contents of some of theor posts, i suspect that at least some of yesterdays little lovelies were in their 20s and 30s. Teens I can kind of understand...

MotherSuperiorHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 21-Jan-13 10:44:57

baremadness

Manic the most disturbing bit is that, from the contents of some of theor posts, i suspect that at least some of yesterdays little lovelies were in their 20s and 30s. Teens I can kind of understand...

Yes. Weird, huh? They should all be back under their bridges now, though, we hope. Please do report any possible stragglers to us.

MotherSuperiorHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 21-Jan-13 10:45:25

AnyFucker

Helen, yep

Marvellous! Ta v much. #trollteamwork

amillionyears Mon 21-Jan-13 10:46:13

Yes but...
Not meaning to be awkward, but when "troll" is called, it is normally right I would say 90% of the time. You obviously know the real figures on this.

so
1. It stops giving lots of oxygen to a troll, which is what they want.
2.It stops posters wasting their time, energy, and in some cases, saying things they may not otherwise have revealed.
3. I appreciate your point one, but I think the advantages of just one person calling troll outweigh the disadvantages. And if the poster was genuine, sometimes others can see it and carrying on posting. And after time, everyone would know the rules including genuine posters, and hopefully shouldnt get too upset.

Obviously this is your call.
But tbh, having troll after troll on your site, can get a bit upset for the thousands of genuine posters on your site too.

GetOrf Mon 21-Jan-13 10:48:46

Thanks very much Helen.

baremadness Mon 21-Jan-13 10:50:27

Manic the most disturbing bit is that, from the contents of some of theor posts, i suspect that at least some of yesterdays little lovelies were in their 20s and 30s. Teens I can kind of understand...

GetOrf Mon 21-Jan-13 10:52:09

One of our little friends posted a comment on this thread (deleted) which was just hideous - full of hatred for women/mothers. Horrible.

amillionyears Mon 21-Jan-13 10:55:39

Had an idea.
Not sure whether it is a brainwave or rubbish!
Havent totally thought it all through.
How about, if you let certain posters only call troll. Those, like AF, who say they are very good at troll spotting. They wouldnt even have to say the word troll, they could have a special sentence to say[not sure the point of that exactly, like I say, I havent thought this all through currently]

If everyone knew this, that say, 40? regular and good troll spotting posters were allowed by MNHQ to say troll or whatever, would a scheme like that work?

MotherSuperiorHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 21-Jan-13 11:00:18

amillionyears

Yes but...
Not meaning to be awkward, but when "troll" is called, it is normally right I would say 90% of the time. You obviously know the real figures on this.

so
1. It stops giving lots of oxygen to a troll, which is what they want.
2.It stops posters wasting their time, energy, and in some cases, saying things they may not otherwise have revealed.
3. I appreciate your point one, but I think the advantages of just one person calling troll outweigh the disadvantages. And if the poster was genuine, sometimes others can see it and carrying on posting. And after time, everyone would know the rules including genuine posters, and hopefully shouldnt get too upset.

Obviously this is your call.
But tbh, having troll after troll on your site, can get a bit upset for the thousands of genuine posters on your site too.

It actually happens a lot, amillionyears - the calling troll when it isn't or might not be. It's even happened to a couple of us at MNHQ.

And as we have always said, and continue to believe is right, we would always rather err on the side of giving folks the benefit of the doubt, and risk being made to look a bit foolish once in a while, than pounce on someone who may turn out to be genuinely in need of help.

And (if it is actually a troll) NOTHING give lots of oxygen to a troll better than shouting "troll" all over their thread. They'd be rubbing their hooves in glee at all the hoohah they're causing.

AnyFucker Mon 21-Jan-13 11:03:07

No, no, no, AMY. I think it's a very bad idea to appoint official "troll hunters". For a start it would make you very unpopular (oh, here she comes again, who does she think she is etc) and there is still the chance of getting it wrong.

Only HQ with their extra info about whatever they have extra info about (they won't tell us see..?) can know for sure. Leave it to them. I understand that is a bit hypocritical of me as I have been banned for troll hunting before, but when I think about it rationally (not in the red mist of spotting yet another wind up merchant) it makes perfect sense smile

MotherSuperiorHelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 21-Jan-13 11:05:26

AnyFucker

No, no, no, AMY. I think it's a very bad idea to appoint official "troll hunters". For a start it would make you very unpopular (oh, here she comes again, who does she think she is etc) and there is still the chance of getting it wrong.

Only HQ with their extra info about whatever they have extra info about (they won't tell us see..?) can know for sure. Leave it to them. I understand that is a bit hypocritical of me as I have been banned for troll hunting before, but when I think about it rationally (not in the red mist of spotting yet another wind up merchant) it makes perfect sense smile

Thank you, AnyF.

And yes, we agree.

manicbmc Mon 21-Jan-13 11:06:40

Just report if you suspect a troll and let those in the know deal with it.

The trolls are such sad individuals.

amillionyears Mon 21-Jan-13 11:06:45

Oh well [shrugs]
Perhaps it is a rubbish idea then!

RandallPinkFloyd Mon 21-Jan-13 11:06:58

Ooh, AF that must have even painful to say! grin

Helen's right though, when you're at your most vulnerable being called a troll is about as demoralising as it gets.

AnyFucker Mon 21-Jan-13 11:08:27

Randall, just a very small twinge, honest smile

MelodyBaker Mon 21-Jan-13 11:32:22

I think troll have nothing better too do. Come here and upset people.
If we follow the guidelines and dont troll hunt maybe they will go away. No reaction may be the best idea

amillionyears Mon 21-Jan-13 12:26:13

I wonder if they tell any girlfriends, that they are trolls.

amillionyears Mon 21-Jan-13 12:27:19

For some reason, I assume most of them are males.
Mind you, works the other way round as well.
Perhaps I should have just said partners.

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