The Great Unwashed

(49 Posts)
Granitetopping Sat 19-Jan-13 19:48:53

AIBU to want colleagues to shower daily, wear clean clothes and use deodorant?

Dromedary Sat 19-Jan-13 19:51:39

YABU - show some flexibility. How would you have coped not so very long ago, when many people only had a wash once a week?

yanbu- there's no need for it- i have hyperhydrosis and i manage to not reek.

scarlettsmummy2 Sat 19-Jan-13 19:54:51

There is no excuse for being smelly. My particular pet hate. Nothing worse than smelly people.

WhatchuTalkinBoutPhyllis Sat 19-Jan-13 19:55:15

yanbu if it's an everyday thing.

treas Sat 19-Jan-13 20:00:41

scarlettsmummy2 - Personally I find thieves, rapist and murderers a lot worse!

redexpat Sat 19-Jan-13 20:32:18

You can wash without having a shower you know!

cookielove Sat 19-Jan-13 20:38:47

Really, this is ridiculous and rude and horrible urgh at people like you!!

filibear Sat 19-Jan-13 21:04:43

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Its actually in our work place policy that people who have such poor hygiene it causes discomfort or embarrassment can be disciplined. Thank god.

Cailinsalach Sat 19-Jan-13 21:13:13

Some people just have a stronger body odour and need to wash more frequently than others, but I suspect we are the victims of soap and shampoo marketing.

Sirzy Sat 19-Jan-13 21:16:03

If you said that people should take effort to ensure they don't smell then that would be fair enough. However, that can be done without daily showers, or daily changes of clothes (other than underwear of course)

I don't know....sometimes I find people's perfume or aftershave stomach churning...

How do you know how often they shower? Is this something you discuss, along with their laundry?

On the other hand, it's reasonable to want them not to smell. But how they achieve this is their business, not yours.

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Sat 19-Jan-13 21:25:26

YANBU - not at all.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Sat 19-Jan-13 21:27:19

YANBU

And I am astonished at how many people are saying that you are! It is bloody disgusting to sit next to someone who smells. BO isn't the worst, it is the unwashed or musty clothes smell that makes me want to vomit.

InNeedOfBrandy Sat 19-Jan-13 21:28:40

YANBU and yabu

Sometimes on the bus the stench of morning breath and bo is unfuckinbelievable and that's at the start of the day in winter!

But I do think some people have A stronger smell and that's just them.

No excuse for not brushing your teeth an washing not washing your face an flaps.

fluffypillow Sat 19-Jan-13 21:29:59

YANBU. That is all.

BabsAndTheRu Sat 19-Jan-13 21:32:30

YANBU, I work in hospital and it stands out a mile when someone smells. It's in our uniform policy as well as can be very off putting for patients if you smell and also very unprofessional. For some reason at work I'm the one who gets nominated to deal with any member of staff who has this problem, lucky me.

It was drilled into us in Nursing school. Theres nothing worse than a smelly nurse.
Funny how my gran never smelt, and yet she had no washing machine for clothes and hated having a bath, but top and tail daily works wonders along with a trip to the laundrette.
Makes me gag the combination of BO and old dirty clothes.

Babs what do you say ? And does it work ?

Corygal Sat 19-Jan-13 21:57:43

Being smelly is rude.

Corygal Sat 19-Jan-13 21:58:45

Babs . wht do you SAY? I really want to know

BabsAndTheRu Sat 19-Jan-13 22:14:03

I tend to find just being honest works best, but not in a you stink mate kind of way. I speak to them in private and try and be as sensitive as I can but basically you are telling them they have a body odour problem, find I always seem to start talking about having to get up earlier to get ready for work. Also tell them that I have a stock of deodorants, sprays and wipes in my desk that they can access at any time, using the excuse about the hospital being warm and that we can all get a bit hot and sweaty. Did always have a spray with me but stocked up since getting this extra wee job. It does help that their is a policy on it but never mention that when speaking to anyone as that would make them think they were in trouble and want to keep discussion as informal as possible. It's a really sensitive topic and basically try to do it without upsetting the other person. Not easy.

BabsAndTheRu Sat 19-Jan-13 22:18:21

Sorry meant to say it does work, does often tend to be the folk that think they'll be okay just getting up and putting clothes on and come straight out to work. No shower, no wash at sink. You can't get away with that in such a clinical setting.

Corygal Sat 19-Jan-13 22:19:25

Brilliant,thanks Babs.

wannabedreams Sat 19-Jan-13 22:25:18

yanbu and I don't understand how people can no know and not want to wash more....

neveronamonday Sat 19-Jan-13 22:45:28

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mrsmillsfanclub Sat 19-Jan-13 22:57:43

Of course yanbu.
I have just started having to commute by bus again to work and am horrified by the number of people that head off to work without brushing their teeth or having a wipe down with a flannel at the least. It's a basic human requirement even animals wash themselves. Totally selfish that dirty people should inflict their smells on others, fine if you never leave the house but not on a packed bus.

Charliefox Sat 19-Jan-13 23:02:49

I know someone who doesn't wash all week. And I'm talking no wash or shower at all, morning or night. She slaps the make up on and the clothes and then heads off to school, where she works. Disgusts me to be honest.

apostropheuse Sat 19-Jan-13 23:10:20

YANBU

It doesn't take much effort to shower daily and wear fresh clothes.

It's just basic hygiene for goodness sake.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 19-Jan-13 23:17:23

YANBU.

Smelly people walking by have made me retch before now. I am glad to have always worked in jobs where poor personal hygiene is considered an issue to be dealt with swiftly before someone throws up

InNeedOfBrandy Sat 19-Jan-13 23:37:29

mrsmills the morning breath off of someone on the bus is the worst!

There's a guy at work who starts out on Monday fresh & clean, and ends the week totally rank and reeking. He prefers killing zombies to keeping up with his personal hygiene, and at his last disciplinary hearing stated that he didn't see the need for a full body wash more than once a week.

He's currently on his final written warning, but appears to not understand it's a problem.

<boak>

Gomez Sun 20-Jan-13 00:34:51

But how do you notice? I'm 42 and have only really had 1 smelly colleague in all that time. Oh and one with pongy feet in the summer.

Whilst I don't like the smell of fags, booze and too much perfume I just don't have the issue with body odour that others seem to. And can live with the boozy, faggy thing as it is only transient and once you move away it goes away too.

Ponders if this is because I live in the frozen North grin

OpenMouthInsertCake Sun 20-Jan-13 00:39:39

Has anyone ever noticed that shower gels just don't seem to give the same 'clean' smell as proper bar soap? I realise this is a bit off topic, but it seemed the thread for it. I can feel grubby again fairly quickly after using shower gel (and anti-perspirant after showering) but if I use a soap like Dove, I smell clean for aaaaages.

Gomez He works in a small & confined area which becomes my workspace once he leaves. I've taken to sticking a hand around the door and squirting lots of air-freshener before going in. I don't have a particularly weak stomach but there have been times when the smell has made me dry heave.

Valpollicella Sun 20-Jan-13 00:47:34

I think proper soap is more de greasing therefore longer lasting? Shower gels are a bit more 'gentle' because people shower every day now (well, mostly). So they are made gentler so we don't strip all our skin off grin

hence that feelingOPen...I could be wrong though

SolidGoldFrankensteinandmurgh Sun 20-Jan-13 02:01:15

We had a broken boiler in November - for three weeks. Most nights I would go through the tedious routine of boiling three kettles and three saucepans to give DS a bath (though at 8 years old he's not that sweaty and a wet flannel will often do) but could neither stand nor afford to do that for myself every night (electricity on keymeter...) Mind you, I either work from home or spend my time walking the streets delivering leaflets, so I am not near other people long enough for them to notice if I honk a bit.

Chottie Sun 20-Jan-13 05:57:40

I think it is disgusting and anti social. That rank, acid smell of BO, unwashed hair and clothes is just gross. It is especially awful in a confined space.

MammaTJ Sun 20-Jan-13 06:07:23

I have no bath or shower at the moment. Sorry, I can only strip wash!! sad

FellatioNels0n Sun 20-Jan-13 06:15:15

YABNU. I live somewhere where I am often surrounded by lots of people who (culturally I think) do not use antiperspirant and it can be very, very unpleasant indeed. Especially as it can get well above 45 degrees here in the summer. I'm like one of those delicate Victorian ladies, wafting a lavender-scented handkerchief in front of my nose. grin

Thumbwitch Sun 20-Jan-13 06:20:12

YANBU that people should not smell at work, but YABU to dictate how they achieve that.

We had a bloke in our labs who had a personal hygiene issue, mostly due to nylon shirts and refusal to change his labcoat frequently enough. I ended up leaving a highlighted photocopy of the HR code of conduct re. personal hygiene in his labcoat pocket because none of us were brave enough to tell him face to face. It worked, though.

mathanxiety Sun 20-Jan-13 06:22:15

YANBU and you have my sympathy.

mademred Sun 20-Jan-13 06:42:43

yANBU! No excuse to be dirty, soap and water is cheap enough.the town we shop in about 20 miles from here is full of jk fodder, and its the fashion to stink and wear filthy clothes.wat gets my goat more is seeing small kids and babies with these filthy people and them sitting in filthy prams.! It's everyones buisness when they are out in public offending people with their stench.

NumericalMum Sun 20-Jan-13 06:51:10

YANBU! A woman at work used to shower\bath and wash her hair on a Thursday. The disgusting oily mess tht was her hair used to make me feel ill when I had to talk to her and not to mention the smell of oily hair!

I know I probably go to the other extreme but I cannot stand not having washed hair every morning.

kalidanger Sun 20-Jan-13 07:02:09

I once sent an anonymous email to a woman I did a hobby with about her stinking shock I said 'we' didn't have a problem with anything she said or did but to please wear deoderant. It worked too. I think it was because she was a hippy no-chemicals type. She was lovely and it was difficult and that was all I could think of to do as not a work setting.

JusticeCrab Sun 20-Jan-13 07:03:34

Sometimes it's unavoidable. Possible TMI here, but some time last year I got a bad rash/soreness in a not-particularly-nice place, possibly courtesy of insect bites - and my normal, manageable 'natural odours' became horribly unpleasant. Washing didn't help. I smelled like something had crawled inside me and died. And I couldn't stop myself smelling like that - at least, not without industrial chemical assistance.

Stashing sprays and wipes in the office is a good idea, Babs - especially if the office gets warm regularly.

girlguideforever Sun 20-Jan-13 07:18:38

YANBU! Personally, at least wash the three f's every morning (face, feet and fanny)!

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