OMG. A thread combining baby sex and MIL. Can't quite believe I'm doing this...

(98 Posts)
Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 13:26:30

Just had 20 week scan and it's a boy! Yay! So happy, already have one DS and this is great, wasn't actually bothered but just love knowing as now I know his name and he's a little person to me already.

HOWEVER, MIL just called me (DH called her to let her know, he's not at home right now) to say she's happy but ONLY because it's a boy, if it was a girl she wouldn't be. I quite want to break something... AIBU to be annoyed? Actually just venting rage rage rage... don't even care if I am.

manicbmc Fri 18-Jan-13 13:27:44

So would she be giving you the 3rd degree and blaming you if you were having a girl?

Silly old cow. hmm

And congrats smile

HazleNutt Fri 18-Jan-13 13:28:22

What a cow. Tell her that sonographer called you back for another scan and it's a girl after all.

She's a twit, you're going to have a lovely baby and you don't need to worry about her! Congrats and just ignore, ignore......just know that you won't be bringing up such blinkered people yourself.

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 13:29:13

I am a girl and so is she. I just don't get it.

DontmindifIdo Fri 18-Jan-13 13:29:37

did you ask her why she wouldn't be happy if it was a girl?

Does she have a problem with other females?

Woman like that are best avoiding, bit shit if she's your MIL and you can't.

IneedAsockamnesty Fri 18-Jan-13 13:29:39

What that poster said

pippop1 Fri 18-Jan-13 13:30:25

How nasty. What's she got against girls?

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 13:30:37

No, I just sat there in stunned silence. I mean, how do you actually respond to that? And breathe...

mathsconundrum Fri 18-Jan-13 13:31:04

What a rude of insulting witch.

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 13:32:04

I don't know, she didn't want girls, luckily doesn't have any (for the potential girls I mean). She seems to quite like me though. Oh, I don't know! It's all completely ridiculous.

DeltaUniformDeltaEcho Fri 18-Jan-13 13:32:04

This is one of those times that you wish they had the wrong sex from the scan - JUst to see her face when you tell her it's a girl!

But anyway, congratulations and Ignore Ignore Ignore smile

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Fri 18-Jan-13 13:32:25

.. you say 'You are barking' and hang up! Stupid cow. Ring your DH, tell him what she said and tell him that she'd better give you a wide berth!

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 13:33:31

Chipping ah you made me laugh! Thanks I needed that.

rubyslippers Fri 18-Jan-13 13:34:00

i don't think i'd be able to speak to her again

serioulsy what a mad and dreadful thing to say

SanityClause Fri 18-Jan-13 13:34:27

My MIL and her sister are definitely more loving toward DS than his two older sisters.

To me this kind of attitude is just weird.

HecateWhoopass Fri 18-Jan-13 13:36:35

Oh god, what a stupid thing to say.

so if you have another child, and it's a girl- you already know that she won't give a shit about her.


MadamGazelleIsMyMum Fri 18-Jan-13 13:37:00

That is weird and rude. I think I would have to say something. Perhaps tell her the scan can't ever be 100% accurate and you're concerned about her attitude if it is a girl...

whatsforyou Fri 18-Jan-13 13:37:33

Do you think she maybe thought you wanted a girl and, in a really stupid, insensitive way, she is trying to console you for having another boy? A lot of people do think you 'need' one of each.
Still an awful thing to think or say but I can't imagine why anyone would come out with such drivel unprompted hmm

Pigsmummy Fri 18-Jan-13 13:38:52

If she says anything again just smile sweetly and say "well it's not your child so you needn't have worried either way really" then leave the room or ask something a bit mean, after her bunions or something?!

Congratulations on your blue bump!

SofaKing Fri 18-Jan-13 13:40:28

Perhaps she thinks as she had boys its the right thing to do? Or she was worried that you wanted a girl and would be disappointed so this is her bizarre attempt to reassure you?

Either is nutty behaviour and can safely be ignored. Congratulations on your new son, I remember finding out with ds2 at the scan and getting a thrill imagining my lovely little boy.
Mil on the other hand said "Oh no" when I phoned to tell her I was expecting ds2. She backpedalled pretty quickly but to this day I have no idea why us having a third DC warranted such an unkind comment.

Punkatheart Fri 18-Jan-13 13:41:05

Oh dear...the sarcastic side of my brain might twitch at that.

'Yes. Good job he's not a girl. But only if there was a possibility of her growing into a sexist bitch like you.'

I would never say it but was very bigoted.

But well done for your new baby! Enjoy - they are so yummy. I have a teenager - less cute!

Mosman Fri 18-Jan-13 13:42:47

We had a boy after three girls and despite DH telling her to her face repeatedly that he would have been just as happy with a fourth daughter my MIL likes to let me know between the two of us that she "KNOWS" DS is DH's favorite.

LaCiccolina Fri 18-Jan-13 13:42:48

It would be dh fault so to speak if a girl, they set the sex by sperm! So indirectly her fault as u know, his genetics! Tee hee

Daft old bat. Think we might see more of this mil going forwards.... Good luck op xxx

Mosman Fri 18-Jan-13 13:43:41

"well it's not your child so you needn't have worried either way really"

That's a great one, I'm stealing that.

StillSmilingAfterAllTheseYears Fri 18-Jan-13 13:50:00

That is seriously horrid, how awful for her to see the world that way. I'd be wary and fairly keen to give her a wwwwwiiiiidddddeeeee berth.

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 13:50:45

Talking to my lovely DS about it, we have decided I should dress him only in pink

Snazzynewyear Fri 18-Jan-13 13:50:48

How utterly weird to actually ring up specifically to say that. It's not even as if she was caught on the hop and just blurted it out!

I would be tempted to ask 'so, would you have been advising me to get a termination if it was a girl?'

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 13:50:57

Sorry DSis

Alligatorpie Fri 18-Jan-13 13:52:49

She sounds awful. Ignore her.

My SIL did similar to me when I found out I was expecting DS. She just turned and said "ah you don't want a girl anyway, they are all LITTLE BITCHES" shock. Her 2 young DDs were in earshot. sad angry

Issues much??

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 13:54:14

Yes she did sound quite hyper though, and there has been a bit of tragedy in the family recently so perhaps her brain is not engaged properly. I knew she wanted a boy (so weird to say that) for DS1 but thought she had chilled out by DBaby 2 - clearly not. She does adore DS1 (a little too much?) so he benefits I guess and I make a lot of effort not to bring a gender bias into his life (e.g. his fave colour is pink and yellow, I love that etc). Still a really petty side of me wants to fill the house up with girls after this - not sure how I can engineer that...

quirrelquarrel is right. It's important to raise children who can think through the blinders. Congratulations! Congratulations! I am so happy for you OP... smile

Squeakygate Fri 18-Jan-13 13:55:13

Its the kind of thing my mil would say.
I spend as little time as possible in her company.
Ignore her.
Congratulations btw!

amck5700 Fri 18-Jan-13 13:56:50

I agree that it was possibly a clumsy attempt to say that she was delighted to reassure you that she wasn't disappointed and to try to overcome any disappointment she thought you might have. How old is she? Sometimes as we get older subtlety goes right out the window!

What a knob.


Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 13:59:09

Mosman - projecting, much? How very annoying for you. I am gladdened/saddened to know I'm not the only one.

YellowTulips Fri 18-Jan-13 14:00:08

I'd call her up and tell her the scan was wrong and its a girl, so given her response you anticipate she wont want any further updates or contact.

Let he dig her own hole for a while and then say "just kidding".

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 14:01:52

amck no she actually said "I know you would have been happy with a girl but I wouldn't and I wanted to be happy with you, and now I am SO happy" - leaves very little room for any other interpretation really. She's in her 50s. She does have many other good qualities and has had a hard life. My DH is a very nice person too and very respectful of women, but he doesn't pick up his socks. My sons (yay still very excited to say that!!) will be SAS drilled to pick up their socks, among other things...

gotthemoononastick Fri 18-Jan-13 14:11:20

Poor old girl just saying what she thinks you wanted to hear!Damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.Mil's so careful what they say ,that it comes out sounding wrong and false!Why on earth did you tell her?

betterwhenthesunshines Fri 18-Jan-13 14:13:31

See, I think you could have fun with this. Say you have decided to call him Leslie, or Valerie. Tell her you are going to follow the Tongan tradition: if their last born is a son, in a family of all sons then he is brought up as a girl (dresses an all) and fulfills all daughterly duties....

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 14:14:26

gotthemoononastick I have to applaud the attempt to see her side. You could also add that women are less intelligent than men, are governed by all those silly hormones rather than rational thought, and that they have very few scientific advances to their names. I didn't actually tell her myself, SHE called ME to impart this gem. But nice try...

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 14:15:03

better you are SO on my wavelength. Pink, pink, pink.

gimmecakeandcandy Fri 18-Jan-13 14:17:55

Why is she so against girls?

Right next time do the shettles method so baby no.3 is a girl... Just to annoy her!

Cherriesarelovely Fri 18-Jan-13 14:21:59

My grandma never liked my middle brother because she wanted him to be a girl!!!! It is outrageous and completely mad. I'm sorry you had to put up with similarly ridiculous comments!

gotthemoononastick Fri 18-Jan-13 14:26:45

Peka,thank you for you appreciation....I am a thick,very old,but I like to think kind person.God help her if she did not interest,self absorbed etc.The woman is excited and thrilled.Another little boy to 'get too close to'.

HazleNutt Fri 18-Jan-13 14:29:42

there's also an option to call and say congratulations, not start harping about how she would not have been happy if it was a girl.

Yoghurty Fri 18-Jan-13 14:30:46

I remember my gran telling my mum, 'I wish you had been a boy, boys are more loving'.

I don't understand that mentality and mum has always been understandably hurt by that comment. I'm not surprised that you feel angry.

Some people have very fixed ideas about gender stereotypes, don't they?

McBalls Fri 18-Jan-13 14:30:47

I wonder if some mils prefer their dils to produce boys as it replicates her son? Whereas a girl would be too much of the dil... (Not that that bears any sort of scrutiny obv...)

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 14:31:17

You know, under the circs no phone call would have been fine! I could have had a nice day just imagining my lovely new child, had a relaxing time during DS1's nap... oh the possibilities were endless...

bamboozled Fri 18-Jan-13 14:35:01

Betterthan - just what I was going to say, phone her and ask for her 'advice' as you and DH are considering Valerie, Leslie, Frances' as names and wondered which she Preferred...

bamboozled Fri 18-Jan-13 14:36:05

Congrats by the way! Lovely news..

lljkk Fri 18-Jan-13 15:21:45

She has a knobbish perspective but I would just put it to one side & not let it come between us. Luckily it doesn't have to.

I love the ideas to tease her with the most girlie boy names you can think of.

NewYearNewNagoo Fri 18-Jan-13 15:29:42

Hilary is a good one.



NewYearNewNagoo Fri 18-Jan-13 15:30:02


NewYearNewNagoo Fri 18-Jan-13 15:30:42

Oh I love the name Francis. Choose that [serious]

sweetkitty Fri 18-Jan-13 15:36:24

My mother on hearing DC2 was DD2 "oh we'll I'm not that bothered as I know you'll have a third"

She was on the phone to me for 20 minutes knowing I had been for a scan with DD3 and didn't even ask if we had found out the sex. She didn't even comment when I told her she was DD3. She never even bothered with DD3.

The irony is I but all contact with her 4 years ago and since then have had a DS but there is no way she would have given him preferential treatment over his sisters.

Some people are just plain weird. Ignore tha mad old bat.

PuffPants Fri 18-Jan-13 15:46:23

Congrats OP - I have a DS and would be thrilled to have another. I wouldn't dwell on what your MIL said. It doesn't actually matter does it seeing as you're not having a girl? I think the posters who are so outraged here are mums of girls.

Just enjoy the rest of your pregnancy and imagine two lovely brothers watching out for each other in life.

BonaDea Fri 18-Jan-13 15:49:10

I wonder whether she was VERY CLUMSILY trying not to fall into the trap of saying "Oh, never mind, you can try for a girl the next time" trap? Perhaps she thought you might be disappointed with another boy (obv not!) and just thought she would say something supportive of not having a girl?!

WaitingForMe Fri 18-Jan-13 17:05:20

My MIL told me she didn't mind that DS was a boy. I had no idea what to say to that. Was I meant to say thanks?

marriedinwhite Fri 18-Jan-13 17:16:37

I think she was unspeakably inappropriate. But I also think and know these things can be complex.

DD was my 5th pg (beyond 1st trimester). 4 boys: miscarriage 17 weeks, ds1 at 36.5 weeks, miscarriage 11 weeks, ds2 at 27 weeks (died), dd 51 weeks later.

We didn't think we did girls and we expected a boy. We didn't find out the sex first though. I desperately wanted to replace ds2 and genuinely, 100% thought I would - I really didn't want a girl and didn't want to face the possibility I might be having a girl. We were going to have two boys. We just were.

DD was born and I cannot describe the shock ....or the delight or the joy or the privilege it has been to have her. We never ever looked back and thought "oh, how we wished she had been a boy".

Do you think there might be something more complex under the surface here OP that remained unfinished business for your MIL?

Clawdy Fri 18-Jan-13 17:18:13

I agree with BonaDea she may have been trying to sound very positive about another boy,in case you were a bit disappointed.

diddl Fri 18-Jan-13 17:22:51

I can´t see any circumstance in where what MIL said would be appropriate tbh.

It´s not about her.

God knows I loved my Mum, but when I was pregnant she said she hoped it was a boy as she already had a GD!!!


It really hurt tbh.

Congrats peka, 2 boys is great fun (as are girls, I have one of that flavour too!)

Your mil is deranged. My mil told me when I had dd and was pregnant with dc2 that boys are much easier, girls are cunning and manipulative shock maybe my spoilt cow of a sil was but no, most girls aren't you daft old woman!

Ignore the crazy lady and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy smile

carben Fri 18-Jan-13 17:56:29

Agree with Clawdy. I think she believed (wrongly as it goes) that you would have preferred a girl this time round and was trying to help by 'down-grading' girls. I bet if you told her that there had been a mistake and it was a girl after all she would be just as delighted. You say you get on well and I think she was just trying to be a good MIL. I bet she would be horrified if she knew what your reaction had been.

dizzy77 Fri 18-Jan-13 18:08:19

See I was on a thread yesterday when the op had found out the sex and didn't want to tell others, and i read the bulk of responses as "you're being childish for wanting to keep a secret if you know already".

It's this sort of situation and others inappropriate comments before being faced with an actual little person who bears the gender that makes me not want to share the gender. A bit kind the advice not to tell the names you're considering before the baby is named as EVERYONE will have an opinion that could derail you, whereas when it's attached to a real baby they are much more supportive. Sigh.

Whatdoiknowanyway Fri 18-Jan-13 19:22:12

My dad told my mum when they married that he didn't want girls as they were nothing but trouble. He definitely favoured my brother. However in his old age he talked to me aboUt this and said he hd been wrong it was your daughters you could rely on. Bit sad it was because his sons had been useless at looking after him and his daughters had always been there for him but Heyho. It was nice to hear it.

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 19:42:06

marriedinwhite your story certainly puts my woes in perspective. My DH thinks she's that way because she found it hard being a girl, coming from her background and thought life was easier for boys. I can understand that, but things are a lot better now and having observed her with other children I also think there is a definite bias there - she admits that she just prefers boy children confused. I dunno, it's all a bit mad, I'm just glad my family are more sane about this kind of thing. I really value family but I think I may have to separate out a bit emotionally because she does sometimes have very strange attitudes.

JustFabulous Fri 18-Jan-13 19:48:51

My MIL said I had my kids in the wrong order hmmangry. She actually had a discussion with her mother about it hmmangry.

JustFabulous Fri 18-Jan-13 19:50:34

What if the sonographer was wrong and you have a girl?

lilly40 Fri 18-Jan-13 19:52:38

Congratulations!! Ignore MIL. Don't let her ignorance spoil your joy. I'm 20 weeks too and has my scan today and found out its a girl. So happy as I have a DS.

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 19:56:08

Congratulations to you too Lilly! That's fantastic news, so glad everything's ok. (Here we are both modelling appropriate responses to this kind of information grin)

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 19:58:10

Anyway, if I have another I am pretty much definitely not finding out or if I do find out not telling anyone that I know. Thanks for all the moral support, I am now going to eat icecream.

JustFabulous Fri 18-Jan-13 20:02:38

There is nothing in what she said that points to her being clumsy in her attempt to reassure you if you actuially wanted a girl. That are suggesting it, really are you genuinely thinking that?

This has reminded me of when I phoned my Grandmother to say I had had my son. She said "Oh, well you can have a girl next time." I was blissed up that my baby had been extracted alive so let it go but wtaf? She wanted a girl but even so.

shellshock7 Fri 18-Jan-13 20:05:30

Just ignore, my MIL is GM to 4 boys (I have one DS with one of her sons and her other son has 3 DS) and when we found out the sex I got 'oh good, I don't know what to do with girls'?!

I do wonder what will be said if I ever get PG with a girl!

Stropzilla Fri 18-Jan-13 20:07:30

My MIL actually said to me "if you have a girl I'll drown it because girls are cows." I went ahead and had 2 girls! She loved them both to bits and admits she was awful to say that! I like to tease her about it now. Hopefully yours will be the same way.

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 20:10:45

Ok stropzilla you win! What an insane thing to say!!! I would have hit the roof!

shellshock7 Fri 18-Jan-13 20:11:35

stropzilla I'm sat with my mouth open in shock!

Stropzilla Fri 18-Jan-13 20:15:47

She can be a bit odd about stuff! I just ignored it tbh and fortunately she could admit she was wrong. It was my grandad who really upset me. On finding out I was pregnant with DD2 I had "oh that's a shame. ". And going off on one about being able to forgive a woman her first child but not the second and how the state has to pay for it all those evil single mothers. ..not that it matters but im married and Dh has his own business!

GregBishopsBottomBitch Fri 18-Jan-13 20:15:53

Blimey Peka and Strop, only thing i can think of for a reason is that its fear of the son having 2 many females in his life.

Peka Fri 18-Jan-13 20:20:24

OMG stropzilla I'm amazed you are as well-balanced as you seem to be. I will get off my high horse and pack it away.

Stropzilla Fri 18-Jan-13 20:24:42

I dont know Greg! She's always fallen over herself to be nice to me so I assume it was trying to be funny gone wrong. We used to have girlie nights out and everything pre-dc. I think karma is biting her on the ass however now since BIL has been acting like a prize twunt and disproved her boys are perfect theory!

JustFabulous Fri 18-Jan-13 20:27:05

My MIL also said she didn't know what to do with girls.

She is one, has nieces, had a mum, has sisters.

I had a girl..

Stropzilla Fri 18-Jan-13 20:30:52

Oh Peka blesd you but I'm not well balanced. I'm a crockpot of insanity waiting to bubble over grin. But in answer to your question YANBU. Youre pregnant therefore are always NBU! Congratulations and good luck.

mcsquared Fri 18-Jan-13 21:19:09

My MIL said thank you when I told her DS was a boy as she'd been praying for our first born to be a boy. She told me the eldest should always be a son. Apparently that's the best type of family.

I'm the eldest of three and female. :|

Spuddybean Fri 18-Jan-13 21:30:45

congratulations OP.

My MIL is barking only likes boys. She has 2 daughters and disowned them and dotes on DH. When DH told her we were expecting a baby she automatically kept referring to her 'grandson', even tho we didn't find out the sex. DS turned out to be a DS, so she is very happy, but also goes on about how much better boys are than girls - so much more loving, better babies etc. It really annoys me as we will be trying for DC2 soon and if it's a girl she will treat her completely differently, it also makes me want girls just to piss her off and i really actually have no preference, just a lovely squidgy baby is what i want.

goodmum123 Fri 18-Jan-13 22:03:43

When my lovely husband told his father (accidentally on speaker phone) that we were expecting a girl. He said 'ah never mind'. I was /still am gutted more than two years later, and I received an ap

goodmum123 Fri 18-Jan-13 22:04:50

Apology. He has since sadly passed away but it ate away at me and it was to me the beginning on depression. So ignore x

BumBiscuits Fri 18-Jan-13 22:10:08

marriedinwhite your post made me fill up.

Your bit about shock, delight and privilege, struck a chord with me about how I felt when I had my first girl. I had none of the heartbreak you had, but did think I was having a boy due to the sonographer going from saying "baby" to "he" halfway through my 20w scan.

To OP, I think your MIL was clumsily trying to say something in the misapprehension that you may have needed cheering up about not having a girl.

Saying "oh great you'll get to reuse all your DS1's fabulous baby things" or something to that effect would have been much more appropriate that dissing girls.

My late MIL severely got on my tits and spoke the biggest heap of shite permanently mainly due to alcoholism . I got into the habit of finding fault with everything she said and did and didn't hide my disgust at her. If the woman had won the lotto and handed me a million quid I would have still managed to find a fault in her.

eatssleepsfeeds Fri 18-Jan-13 22:15:20

yoghurty - my MIL said when I was preg with my second, ' oh, don't you hope you have a boy this time? They're so much more loving than girls.'

Well fuck off then if you don't think you're grandaughter is loving enough for you.

She has 2 grandaughters from me now!

marriedinwhite Fri 18-Jan-13 22:21:48

Looks at dd - 14, gazing at lappy - bites tongue - she's been lippy tonight wink.

DoodleAlley Fri 18-Jan-13 22:33:40

I was recently old by the sonographer that 1 in 20 gender predictions from scans are wrong. Remind her of that!

MumofWombat Fri 18-Jan-13 23:58:51

My MIL has 2 boys and 5 grandsons (only one from us!), she openly says that when she had DH she told the dr that if it was a girl to put it back, she didn't want a girl.....She openly says how happy she is that she only has boys in the family as girls are all bitches.... Amongst similar statements.
I'm 29 weeks pregnant, and we will be having a DD. DH and I (and my side of the family) are thrilled - and would have been whatever the colour!
I've got things planned to say for when she spouts this drivel once the baby is born. I will not allow my daughter to grow up hearing such hurtful statements from her grandmother. If MIL cannot control what she says, then my daughter will not be spending a lot of time in her company. Luckily my DH also realises that these things she says aren't good, but no one has challenged her before.
FIL, who is lovely (and from whom DH inherited his personality) is very much looking forward to a little girl to spoil.

GregBishopsBottomBitch Sat 19-Jan-13 00:15:47

I remember a tv show years back about a woman who had 4 boys and was desperate for a girl, she said something like, "I liken not being able to have a girl, with not being able to have kids at all", it pissed me off, her 5th child was a boy also, she had 4 beautiful boys and another on the way, some people never get to experience that joy of having a child, and people who can have kids are whiny over what sex they are, atleast these people can have them.

PurpleStorm Sat 19-Jan-13 00:33:32

That's a horrible thing to say. And completely unnecessary. What's wrong with just saying how nice it is that you're expecting a boy without mentioning girl babies at all?

Incidentally, I know someone who was told that they were having a boy at the 20 week scan. Turned out that the sonographer had mistaken a bit of umbilical cord for a penis, and the baby was actually a girl.

harryhausen Sat 19-Jan-13 09:54:06

My Dmil said similar when we had our DC2. Dmil had 2 ds's.

We already a dd. Fine, that was a novelty to her so she accepted it (nice of her). However while I was of with ds (I didn't know the sex) she went on and ON about how horrible it would be if it was another dd. She would say things like...

"Poor DH. If its a another dd it'll be so horrible for him to have a house filled with girls."

"Girls are horrible and bitchy. I hope for everyone's sake it's a ds".

Now, I come from a family FULL of girls. In fact, my ds is the first boy to be born into our family in 38 years. I LOVE women and little girls. I have a family filled with sisters, aunts, nieces etc.
I would say...
"Well my Dad has lived having a houseful of girls. He's been great and loves us all dearly"

Her reply? "He's lying".

She just couldn't see how bloody hurtful she was being. It took me a long while to put it behind me.

Weird thing now is, dd is 8 and huge tomboy. She shuns anything pink, liking gothic beasts, animals and science fiction. However Dmil refuses to see her for who she is, always buying her pink sparkly things.

I try and let go over my head now. Silly cow.

2anddone Sat 19-Jan-13 10:10:36

My mil told me the scan was wrong when I told her we were having dd! Apparently according to her 2anddones don't gave girls hmm (she has 4 nieces!) she then proceded to ask dh if he would consider a DNA test shock

2anddone Sat 19-Jan-13 10:11:31

*have not gave!!

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