to want to see an 'Oops' ad where a young attractive man falls over and shows us all his knickers while blushing?

(41 Posts)
Booyhoo Tue 15-Jan-13 20:34:40

men have incontinence right? there are male incontinence products? why are all the ads of women getting into embarassing knicker flashy situations? why no men?

<i may be pre-menstrual and grumpy as fuck>

Fakebook Tue 15-Jan-13 20:38:28

Because men don't wear knickers.

Sirzy Tue 15-Jan-13 20:39:45

andthey dont wear skirts

KatyTheCleaningLady Tue 15-Jan-13 20:40:11

I wouldn't say that you are unreasonable to want to see clumsy, blushing men in knickers, but I do not share that desire with you.

KatyTheCleaningLady Tue 15-Jan-13 20:41:32

A more serious answer:

While I'm sure there are incontinent men, it's actually quite common in women of a certain age/who have had children.

I'd say a fair percentage of us here on mumsnet may pee when they sneeze or don't handle star jumps as well as they used to.

Now, go do your kegels.

Booyhoo Tue 15-Jan-13 20:43:06

"Because men don't wear knickers"
"andthey dont wear skirts "

some do.

i dont care what they wear. i'm just dont get why it's just women used in the ads.

DameMargotFountain Tue 15-Jan-13 20:44:16

same reason it's women with dry skin/sensitive teeth/constipation/the squits/a headache

it's cos it's tapping into the carefully manufactured insecurities as a marketing tool

Fakebook Tue 15-Jan-13 20:45:57

The ones that do, normally look like this. They want to attract customers, not deter them. Male incontinence products sell fine without advertising.

chibi Tue 15-Jan-13 20:49:15

how can the discerning shopper appreciate the product's efficacy without a totally gratuitous knicker flash shot

this would be demeaning for men since they are generally expected to be clothed and are not there to provide amusement by virtue of their clothing, bodies or a combo of both. that kind of shit is dehumanising and far better suited to women

Alisvolatpropiis Tue 15-Jan-13 20:51:00

Because it's a problem that affects more women than men at a younger age due to childbirth? Maybe that's why they don't use men in the adverts?

DameMargotFountain Tue 15-Jan-13 20:54:53

chibi said it far better than i did

Booyhoo Tue 15-Jan-13 20:56:28

do female incontinence products have trouble selling without advertising? i'd be very surprised if they had more need to advertise than male stuff.

i like your explanation chilbi. i couldn't imagine it would go down to well with their target market having a man stumbling and getting his trousers caught in a car door and flashing his boxers. people would quite rightly say "there really is no need to show his boxers in order to sell this stuff" but fine for women hmm

DameMargotFountain Tue 15-Jan-13 21:04:35

not at all, Booyhoo, but i bet they sell far more than is medically required

TheNebulousBoojum Tue 15-Jan-13 21:06:47

I wish my Y6 boys would keep their bums in their trousers. But no, they think flashing their knickers is cool.

Trills Tue 15-Jan-13 21:08:39

YANBU to wish that adverts did not try to be funny in this manner.

YAB a bit U to think that incontinence pads should advertise using men.

Booyhoo Tue 15-Jan-13 21:17:37

dont men use incontinence pads? what do they use?

Fakebook Tue 15-Jan-13 21:25:59

From personal experience (ill dad) men do have incontinence pads, but I've never ever seen branded ones. The big Boots in our city has About 2 packs of each size of mens disposable nappy type underwear and about 4 packs of incontinence pads. For women, there are shelves filled with pads and disposable underwear. Judging by that, one can assume men don't usually have bad incontinence problems like women do.

Trills Tue 15-Jan-13 21:26:51

If babies have different nappies for boys and girls because they pee in different places then presumably men with incontinence should have their own solution?

Booyhoo Tue 15-Jan-13 21:30:33

babies have different nappies? shock i have never heard of this!

would also like to point out that i mentioned incontinence products in my OP. i didn't specify pads. wink

JoanByers Tue 15-Jan-13 21:31:03

I don't think penises leak as much as vaginas do.

Sorry

Fakebook Tue 15-Jan-13 21:34:38

Babies used to have different nappies back in the 80's. confused

Trills Tue 15-Jan-13 21:34:53

Wee doesn't come out of vaginas.

Incontinence pads are not for vagina-secretions.

They don't have different nappies anymore. Last time I saw boy/girl nappies was 1997 when ds was born.

Booyhoo Tue 15-Jan-13 21:35:08

fake i'd say that's more to do with what damemargo was talking about. women are more likely to buy and shop around, try out different products. men more likely to pick the first product they see that appiles to their condition and stick with it. i am aware this is generalising. but i'd say marketing plays much more of a factor in what's on the shelves than demand. plus women wear lots of different styles of knickers so need different shapes of pads. liek the endless styles of sanitary towels.

DameMargotFountain Tue 15-Jan-13 21:39:38

incontinence in women is often portrayed as an embarrassing fact of life, the stereotypical and derogatory image of the older woman smelling of urine as the brunt of many jokes

incontinence in men is seen as a medical problem and therefore Not Funny

HestonsFatCock Tue 15-Jan-13 21:39:50

It pisses me off, because there is a perfectly good, low risk operation called a TVT you can have on the NHS, rather than those products, yet they market them like there is nothing else. I had the op last January and hardly a drop has passed my lips since IYSWIM <crude>. I would recommend it anyway.

Fakebook Tue 15-Jan-13 21:44:22

I think it's widely known that childbirth can cause incontinence. Women who give birth aren't old women! They have to be sold a product that doesn't make them feel aged, but does the job they need it to do.

DameMargotFountain Tue 15-Jan-13 21:46:44

yup, it's all about the money isn't it?

i pressed 'post' too soon on my last message, but you get my drift?

womens incontinence aids (yes, i'm talking pads here, OP wink ) are marketed the same as beauty products, it taps into our vanity

DameMargotFountain Tue 15-Jan-13 21:47:36

Fake you read Heston's post?

that

Fakebook Tue 15-Jan-13 21:50:40

There must be some kind of criteria to be met to have that operation. I don't think they'd offer it to a woman who has a minor problem. Happy to be told I'm wrong.

LesBOFerables Tue 15-Jan-13 21:53:07

Because advertising aimed at women focuses on their insecurities, whereas that aimed at men focuses on enhancing their awesomeness (possibly a sweeping generalisation). This demonstrates the difference quite nicely wink.

DameMargotFountain Tue 15-Jan-13 21:55:40

if you're so incontinent you need to wear a pad, you should see your GP, really

it can be fixed

chibi Tue 15-Jan-13 21:56:06

pissing yourself is so minor and inconsequential if you are a woman because we all know what leaky things they are. best not to waste NHS resources on fixing it when women can just be shamed into buying their on pads to soil

being expected to piss yourself and just have to deal with it would be seriously dehumanising if it happened to men.

TheOriginalSteamingNit Tue 15-Jan-13 21:58:09

lesB and chibi say it so well!

Yes, this is infuriating.

LesBOFerables Tue 15-Jan-13 22:01:36

I just looked up the clinical research on TVT, and it says "...in 92% of cases conservative management was tried and had failed before surgery was considered. For the TVT operation patients reported a high subjective cure rate, with 95% either fully cured or showing substantial improvement in their condition."

So it sounds like they advocate Kegels etc first.

But I'm sure it's worth knowing that if this is an issue for you, a trip to the GP will probably be better than spending a fortune on commercially-available pads, and that the root cause can be addressed. I think the adverts for pads play on women's embarrassment about seeing the doctor in the first place.

Fakebook Tue 15-Jan-13 22:09:22

Thanks LesBOF. That's what I thought. By minor problem I did mean something that could be cured with pelvic floor exercises.

chibi Tue 15-Jan-13 22:20:20

maybe they can stop prescribing viagra and use the moneys saved to fund tvt and make women aware that it is available.

impotent men can then have special underwear targetted at them that can mask their inability to achieve and or maintain erections, complete with shaming adverts

win win win

doyouwantfrieswiththat Tue 15-Jan-13 22:25:11

grin BOF pmsl at the link...oh bugger

LesBOFerables Tue 15-Jan-13 23:02:14

grin

HestonsFatCock Thu 17-Jan-13 09:29:56

That link was ace BOF grin

Yes I just wanted to add that I had had eight years of pissing myself with doing pelvic floors etc. I never used those incontinence pads, but suddenly the kids were older and I thought "Oh, I can spare myself the time to do something about this".

The worst bit was the urodynamics test to make sure I really did need the op. The op itself was fine and the gynaecologist was a lovely man, who laughed along with the nurse when he asked how long I had been pissing myself for and I replied "eight years". I think he believed I had had long enough pissing myself.

I can even go on the trampoline now.

Hope this helps anyone else out there with a problem.

SkaffenAmtiskaw Thu 17-Jan-13 09:48:24

I was going to post that link BOF grin

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