to not want to fill out a CRB form

(39 Posts)
kim147 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:00:32

Unless I'm offered the job.

It just takes a long time that I could waste on MN use elsewhere.

If I get the job, then I can get the CRB to them ASAP. But why do it before the interview? Just wasted paperwork that will get shredded if I don't get it.

Floralnomad Wed 09-Jan-13 21:02:28

I filled out a CRB form last week and it took about 10 minutes , and that included finding my passport . YABU

hatgirl Wed 09-Jan-13 21:04:00

are you paying or them?

heronsfly Wed 09-Jan-13 21:04:00

Its much easier than it used to be, can be done online.

kim147 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:04:05

You don't know how many addresses I've had in the last 5 years. It even confuses me with dates.

kim147 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:04:36

I've also got 2 valid ones at the moment.

penguinplease Wed 09-Jan-13 21:05:32

You should write down those many addresses on a piece of paper and keep it safe for instances such as this.

If the job is dependant on your passing a CRB then YABU & clearly don't want the job very much.

MyDogEatsPoop Wed 09-Jan-13 21:06:42

I thought CRBs didn't exist now, and there was something transportable instead , called something ever so slightly different?

MyDogEatsPoop Wed 09-Jan-13 21:07:32

DBS! make sure you're filling out the right form now!

ihatethecold Wed 09-Jan-13 21:08:10

Yabu

kim147 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:09:12

penguin I've got 2 CRBS. I just can't see the point of filling out the form before the interview. They'll have to get rid of maybe 6 CRBs that aren't needed.

Mydog It's the new form.

Iamsparklyknickers Wed 09-Jan-13 21:10:07

Seems like a waste of money tbh, is it this new system? Maybe they require you to be registered with it and it'll be a one off - don't know much about it confused

But for an ordinary CRB? YaredefinatelyNBU, I wouldn't.

heronsfly Wed 09-Jan-13 21:10:43

There was a lot of talk about changing to a system where you would only need to apply once, and it would be stored in a data base for interested parties to access, I think it was put on hold though, Ive got 4. grin

Misty9 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:11:58

I agree, they're a pita to fill out when you move a lot. I'm supposed to do one to join an agency - and pay for it myself! Doing it online sounds a bit easier though.

Will they not accept your valid ones? Usually do if less than six months old ime.

kim147 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:12:27

I have no problem with applying.
I can't see the point of prefilling a form.

kim147 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:13:02

Anyway doing it now - off to find my passport smile

Iamsparklyknickers Wed 09-Jan-13 21:13:15

Cross posted - so they want the form ready to send?

I'd fill it in and take it to the interview, but I certainly wouldn't let them have all my details unless I had a job offer. Sorry if that's precious, but I've seen enough of these offices with stuff lying around for ages with random temps in and out all the time.

It might be one in a million chance, but bugger that! I wouldn't give them my bank details on the off chance either!

deleted203 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:14:19

CRBs are a complete nightmare, so you have my sympathy! I took 3 years out of teaching to be a SAHM and therefore had to re-apply.

Get this - it took 8 MONTHS to come through. During which time they dithered about, told me there was someone with similar details to mine (when, because I was born on a tiny, tiny island I am the only person in the world born there on that date!), I had to get fingerprinted by my local police station. Then they sent my CRB off to 5 separate police counties (none of which I'd ever lived or worked in), but couldn't tell me which as they had no idea where it had gone. This was despite the police check of my fingerprints on the police National database coming back clear......I could go on and on, but they are soooo shit, it's unbelievable.

Iamsparklyknickers Wed 09-Jan-13 21:16:08

misty9 no one I've worked for apart from agencies will accept a CRB in another organisations name - they trot out the 'it's only really valid on the date it's issued you could have done anything in the mean time' hmm must look dodgy.

13Iggis Wed 09-Jan-13 21:16:34

PVG in Scotland. You don't need to do a different form for each job now, thankfully.

rhondajean Wed 09-Jan-13 21:17:10

YANBU.

In Scotland you now register and it's supposed to avoid this.

Previously when we interviewed, we would get everyone to complete the form and bring the ID to the interview, then we could send off the successful candidates immediately and shred the rest.

amillionyears Wed 09-Jan-13 21:19:46

One of my DDs has a larger current amount than any number posted on here so far.
Very silly, and time consuming.
She photocopied the last one so she has all numbers and dates of documents to hand for the next jolly time

Well if it came back with a problem, the employer doesn't have to go through with the interview.

They have the upper hand here, as in they're the ones who have the job on offer. If they interview, then ask for a CRB and it comes back with a problem they've wasted their time, which to them is much more important than yours.

kim147 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:27:21

keena - the interview is tomorrow. So I hand the form into personnel and then get interviewed. So they won't know anything about it for 6 weeks. Not that there's anything on there.

I've done it anyway. You can never have enough checks for yourself, can you?

Picturesinthefirelight Wed 09-Jan-13 21:27:50

As the documentation has to be checked in person filling out the firm in advance & taking I'd with you saves another appointment having to be made or you having to send original docs through the post.

The organisation I work with asks for some stuff at interview to deter candidates who may be unsuitable to work with children. It shows we are serious about doing the checks.

You don't know how many addresses you've had in five years?! confused I've lived in 10 houses in 5 years and can remember the address off the top of my head for all of them (I did spend a while memorising them, but remembering a few addresses isn't hard!), surely you learnt your addresses when you moved there?! confused

Saying that, I always think the CRB is a palava until I actually get around to doing it and realise it's piss easy.

They tried to introduce a system like Scotland's at one point, I'm not sure what happened to it though confused There was such a big deal made over it, and how we'd all need to get onto it if we worked with children or vulnerable adults and it had to be done by a certain date, and by the time the date came nothing had come of it confused

kim147 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:36:06

It's amazing how some people read things in a thread that aren't written.

confused - yes I do know the addresses. Postcodes I can Google. It's just a pain. That's all.

FWIW - it's been 5 houses. I now own one. smile

Oh no need to be sarcy OP, I misread the 'You' as 'I' on your second post here:
"You don't know how many addresses I've had in the last 5 years. It even confuses me with dates."

And was quite incredulous that somebody couldn't remember where they'd lived or when. Not sure how I managed that hmm Long bloody day is my excuse!

Didn't know you could find postcodes through googling though, never really thought about it

kim147 Wed 09-Jan-13 21:44:31

I still get confused with the dates though. Got them approximately.

Never moving again - sick and tired of filling in address details for various reasons.

maddening Wed 09-Jan-13 22:37:34

If it's the same form for every job can you not fill in 1 form once (since you would if you got the job) and then keep a master copy?

deleted203 Wed 09-Jan-13 22:43:48

I just found it incredible that I provided my name, address (same one for last 15 years - all the time I'd worked for the same LEA), DOB, Birth Certificate (look - I'm the only person in the world born here), Passport, Driving License, Degree Cert, PGCE, Qualified Teacher Status, GTC Registration and apparently the CRB STILL couldn't quite identify me. Someone had similar details......confused

MammaTJ Thu 10-Jan-13 02:36:39

maddening that wouldn't work, each form has it's own unique number on it.

ripsishere Thu 10-Jan-13 03:32:48

And they are, IIAC, done by different firms. At different costs.
I've got three. All of them took between 4 days and two weeks, despite having lived in six countries in the last 12 years.

redexpat Thu 10-Jan-13 07:25:12

OP you say that you have 2 already. If the most recent one was done within 12 months they should accept it.

crashdoll Thu 10-Jan-13 07:51:43

Approx dates are fine. Also, I'd be very wary of anyone who says it's fine if you have a recent CRB for another agency/job. You need one for each new place.

mrsjay Thu 10-Jan-13 08:53:07

I've also got 2 valid ones at the moment.

just copy off the other forms it takes minutes and the employers wont process it till you are offered the job the just need your information , isn't it all changing mine is due to be renewed and I know it is changing to something else

Picturesinthefirelight Thu 10-Jan-13 09:37:47

I won't accept forms from another organisation regardless if when they were done. If there was a problem and it turned out I hadn't fine a new check I'd be in serio trouble v

kim147 Thu 10-Jan-13 20:59:58

Didn't get job. Because that's what happens to me at the moment sad
But I did give them the CRB.

Picturesinthefirelight Thu 10-Jan-13 21:18:34

sad

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