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To take 9 year olds to see The Hobbit ?

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RufflingFeathers Mon 07-Jan-13 20:40:31

Posted in AIBU so I could get a quick response. For a treat for DS's birthday.
Not seen it and haven't let him watch a 12A before....

Any thoughts ?

(I'd love to see it, but that's a side point, nothing much else on that he's not seen)

InNeatCognac Mon 07-Jan-13 20:41:51

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RufflingFeathers Mon 07-Jan-13 20:45:45

So apart from length - is the 12A for the violence and mature themes (I'm assuming they haven't over sexualised Tolkein ?!!!)

piratecat Mon 07-Jan-13 20:46:06

dd is 10 and a half, but i can honestly say it was fine, she loved it. so did i!

piratecat Mon 07-Jan-13 20:47:07

nothing sexual whatsoever! can't remember any wanton violence at all.

Dd (8) loved it - just a few scary moments, but the violence is quite restrained. No guts and gore. In fact the absence of gore was a bit weird. Heads being cut off and no blood coming out.....you could sort of tell they'd softened it a bit because it's a kids' book really.

KenLeeeeeee Mon 07-Jan-13 20:48:31

Ds1 is 8 and loved it, describing it as "the most bestest film EVER". There's one or two bits where the action is a little intense but it's no worse than LOTR.

Nothing sexual unless you fancy the dwarves. Some of them are quite pretty.

IAmLouisWalsh Mon 07-Jan-13 20:49:06

There are some scary bits - the Wargs, for example - and some of the fighting is a bit gory, but I would say it is fine for a 9 year old, as long as they can sit still for that long. No sex or swearing!

IAmLouisWalsh Mon 07-Jan-13 20:49:39

Yes, there are some sexy dwarves....

RufflingFeathers Mon 07-Jan-13 20:50:11

Cheers all, it's partly because he wants to take a couple of friends as his birthday treat, so didn't want to freak out other people's kids !!

ThalianotFailure Mon 07-Jan-13 20:50:13

wow, I'm obviously very old-fashioned, I would think it was way too violent and scary - just because a DC loves it doesn't mean it's suitable, does it? Oh dear, even I know that sounds old-fashioned blush. DD's going to hate me, isn't she??? And can you legitimately drool over Thorin and Kili if you're with a child - I might feel a bit reserved which would be a pity . . .

manicbmc Mon 07-Jan-13 20:50:54

It is a totally brilliant film. Some very easy on the eye dwarves.

Definitely right for a 9 year old.

LadyIsabellaWrotham Mon 07-Jan-13 20:51:38

It's noisy and very very fighty but not too bad. Check the BBFC website for a detailed rundown of content.

if you go to the 3D version, the glasses will disguise the look of dwarf-lust in your eyes.

jennywren123 Mon 07-Jan-13 20:53:05

If you have a look at the www.imdb.com entry for the film, scroll to the end of the page and find the link to the parents guide. This tells you exactly what the rating is for. It's really handy to see this info for films if your dc are possibly too young but you aren't sure.

Thingymajigs Mon 07-Jan-13 20:54:17

If they can cope with the length of the film then I can't see an issue. We decided that the length of time spent sitting still in a cinema would ruin my 9 year olds experience of the film so it was best to wait for the DVD.

Depends on your 9 yo. I took ds, who is 6, and he loved it and has now asked me to read the book to him. Normally, if I read that someone had taken their 6 yo to a 12A, my judgey pants would be hoiked up over my ears, so feel free to judge me right back. However, people I trust and who know ds well, who had seen the film, assured me he'd be fine with it and he was.

The wolves are a bit scary, as is the Orc leader, but ds assures me I'm wrong there. We were both a bit grossed out by the goblin king. He leads a very sheltered life and I am generally very strict about most things, but here I made an exception and it seems to have been the right decision.

No way would I take 9 yo dd, mind you - she'd still be having nightmares now! Very different people, my two.

I took DS 11 to see it and he loved it, I didn't take DD 8 to see it as I wanted to check it was suitable first and I'm glad I didn't. I wouldn't take anyone elses child to see it either it is quite violent and graphic in places.

motherinferior Mon 07-Jan-13 21:00:49

DD2, who is nine, loved every minute of it.

I personally have become a firm dwarf-pervert too.

manicinsomniac Mon 07-Jan-13 21:01:49

It's a film for kids based on a book for kids, of course it is suitable!

directoroflegacy Mon 07-Jan-13 21:02:55

DH and I went to see it last week. In front of us was a mum with her 5 DC
- a new born, 2, 4, 7, 10 (ish)
The Hobbit isn't really my thing so I was kept busy thinking scenarios that explained WHY she would take children so young to see this film.
There is a lot of violence/Gore but in a Tom & Jerry/ Simpsons type of doing it (Does this make it better??)
Scenario came up with- she was looking after DC for a sick friend (ok didn't get v far!!) but this doesn't explain why not see a more child friendly film that was on at the same time and it was on at 17:30-20:00 surely teatime for the littler ones.
Really wanted to ask her - not to judge but v v nosey

RedTinsel Mon 07-Jan-13 21:04:55

My 9 yo loved it. It's gory but not in a 'realistic' way. It's very long though.

There's no sexy stuff, well except for a few of the dwarves grin

ThalianotFailure Mon 07-Jan-13 21:06:11

it's not a film for kids though, I think; the book is much much more childish - the film is more akin to LOTR which, as a book, is aimed at an adult audience and really nothing like The Hobbit. DH is rereading it, post seeing the film, and has noticed how very 'young' the book is. And if it was meant for kids it wouldn't be that long!

weegiemum Mon 07-Jan-13 21:07:41

My 9 yo dd2 loved it (was 9 end November).

But she's my youngest so has seen lots of films - her first 12a was Indiana jones and the crystal skull. We'd been to "sky fall" 3 weeks before the hobbit.

OptimisticPessimist Mon 07-Jan-13 21:15:54

My 9 year old loved it, he and I went just the two of us as a birthday treat and he came out declaring it "BRILLIANT!" grin

I don't think it's unsuitable for the average 9 year old but given the certificate I think you'd be best checking with parents first and having a back-up film if any of them say no - it's not really your place to take other people's children to a film that is certificated above their age without parental permission, even if legally they are allowed to watch it. I'd say the same if it was under 8's to a PG film (based on BBFC certification information).

LuluMai Mon 07-Jan-13 21:38:36

Ds aged six loved it.

I wouldn't take other peoole's children though, nor would I let mine go with others to see a 12A.

Depends on your nine year old. DS1 (12y10m) and DS2 (10y10m) loved it, but I felt it was a bit too long for DS3 and DD (8y6m). I don't think it was any scarier than Doctor Who or Merlin.

ThalianotFailure Mon 07-Jan-13 21:43:30

but does loving it render it suitable? I'm actually really astonished that everyone else thinks it fine (for a 6 year old!). I admit DD is only 3 so it hasn't come up, but aren't people concerned about the effects of seeing this stuff? Is this just the times we live in? And I'm going to pull my judgey pants right up and say that in no way, shape or form is Skyfall suitable for a 9 year old, I don't care what the BBFC or anyone else says.

ebersneezer Mon 07-Jan-13 21:44:13

My 7 year old loved it

Could you have a subtle sounding out of the other parents to see how they feel, before you send out the invitations?

DumSpiroSperHoHoHo Mon 07-Jan-13 21:45:04

I think it depends on your 9yo, and I would definitely run it by the other parents involved first. I might make that decision for my own child but I'd be bloody furious if someone took that decision without consulting me first.

There are a few grim bits in it - Azog is pretty scary - and it's very long-winded (even with hot dwarves to ogle!).

ebersneezer Mon 07-Jan-13 21:46:07

Yes, I wouldn't take other people's children unless I was sure they'd cope and not get bored.

DumSpiroSperHoHoHo Mon 07-Jan-13 21:47:45

Thalian do not get me started on Skyfall!

DH & I finally got round to seeing it at 9pm last Saturday. Sat next to us, were a family comprising parents, grandparents and a DD of about 7.

I am not one for judgey-pants on the whole but was not impressed.

crunchbag Mon 07-Jan-13 21:54:49

We took our 7yo DD without even thinking about it beforehand. I think it was more than suitable and dd loved it. Yes there were a few scary bits in it but it would be boring otherwise.

jamdonut Mon 07-Jan-13 21:57:10

I think it depends on your child. If easily scared by mild peril, monsters fighting and heads being cut off (but there is no gore at all) then no, I wouldn't .
But I and my 12 year old son loved,loved,loved it!
And the dwarves are REALLY good!
And I actually felt sorry for Gollum...brilliant scenes.

There is a lot of explanation to follow,though, so if you don't think a child would sit through that without getting restless, I wouldn't reccommend it either.

I took 10yo DS, and would have taken him as a 9yo, but would never take someone else's 9yo, and would be a bit hmm if someone proposed to take my 9yo to a 12A film without consulting me before invitations were issued.

pixwix Mon 07-Jan-13 22:02:55

Ex-dh took ds1 (15) and ds2 (9 and a half) with a family friend and his daughter. Ds2 is reading 'the hobbit' at the moment, and he really enjoyed it! Ex- Dh is careful, like me, and runs stuff like this past me, as I do him - even if we think it's suitable, it's a courtesy thing- and I would do the same for the parents of any other 9 year olds that might come along - but ds2 got a lot out of it...

yummumto3girls Mon 07-Jan-13 22:12:54

Saw it last week, wouldn't take my DD age 12 but then she is scared of going up stairs on her own. It is based on a children's book but is not a children's film, lots of chasing by scary things!! Depends on the child but I certainly would not take other children without the parents knowing the level of the film.

Happypiglet Mon 07-Jan-13 22:26:01

Took DSs (8 and 7) yesterday. I am a die hard Tolkein fan and we have read the Hobbit together and they know the story inside out. Even so i had to explain all the 'extra bits' like Radaghast to them in hushed tones! They were not in the least scared. But then they know the story and expected large dragons, gross looking orcs and warty goblins. There is absolutely no steamy stuff and the fighting is just awesome. In fact they agreed that Gollum was the scariest bit!
And My DS1 still can't sit through the evil 'mother' in Tangled without leaving the room...
I wouldn't take them to Skyfall tho! Because it's the 'real' world' and I hate guns and they would be grossed out by any flirting/sexy bits etc!
But I wouldn't take other people's DC without checking first. It's also very long so they need to be able to sit through it.

mixedpeel Mon 07-Jan-13 22:52:21

Fully agree with those who have said the film has much more fighting in it than the book has - Peter Jackson has definitely interwoven it with the LOTR stuff much more than the book ever did. And the orcs, goblins etc are pretty gruesome to look at (and those huge slavering wolves).

I would definitely run it by the other parents first - as someone else said, it will totally depend on the child. If I had seen this at age 9 I would've had nightmares for EVER! And another thought just springs to mind: if I had gone with someone else's parents, I might have felt utterly trapped in the cinema, even if I did want to escape. Or not wanting to lose face in front of friends.

Hobbitation Mon 07-Jan-13 22:57:09

Took 7.5 year old DD1 who loved it, having watched it already myself first to check it was OK. The only bit she shuffled about in was the talky bit with Galadriel in Rivendell.

mixedpeel Mon 07-Jan-13 23:02:30

I don't know about anyone else, but when we saw it, there were not one, but two ads for Nice'n'Easy with the annoying man who can't work out that his missus is on the a bottle blonde.

So during that boring bit with Galadriel, when Gandalf makes some comment about how she hasn't changed a bit, I wanted to shout out "Nice'n'Easy, mate!"

Didn't though.

EugenesAxe Mon 07-Jan-13 23:03:15

It's hard to know what will freak anyone out, but here are the bits that I can think of that might the most:

Middle distance view of Orc holding up head of dead important dwarf in battle scene
Hurried Orc beheadings (why is spellcheck capitalising all my orcs?) during dwarfish flight
Woodland creatures dying of malaise spread from Dol Guldur, including death scene of hedgehog... he's revived but I got a bit upset at first
Suggestions/distant view of large spiders
Spookiness at Dol Guldur including ghost attacking Radagast
Dragon related terror but nothing graphic if I remember rightly
Wargs and orcs being generally nasty

I thought it was a brilliant film FWIW. I met a 9 and 7 yo the other week who'd seen it and they didn't seem distraught at all.

I'm sure you're planning to - but I'd defn do a gentle sounding out of parents before you send out invites, as many have said, it would depend on the 9 yo - my nearly 9yo wouldn't even watch the trailer as he thought it looked too scary. But then he makes us turn off David Attenborough on a regular basis too grin

Took dd (10) who loved it, but won't watch Dr Who or anything remotely scary on TV. I was more freaked out by the advert beforehand for the new film about the Tsunami- far too realistic shots of being swallowed by the waves, screaming etc. The Hobbit has violence, but very comic book- she was fine. We have read the book beforehand, so she did know the story, but we were both annoyed by the extra LOTR links. She has not seen those films yet as they are much darker. Would definitely check with other parents first.

mixedpeel Mon 07-Jan-13 23:12:38

And another thing to bear in mind is that the trailers will all be 12a too. So whereas The Hobbit's violence is fantasy-type stuff as has been said, some of the films trailed might have a different slant.

mixedpeel Mon 07-Jan-13 23:15:00

weird, crossposted with you, boatto! Though we didn't have the Tsunami film trailed when we saw it. Tarantino's latest was there, among others hmm

BackforGood Mon 07-Jan-13 23:26:27

Agree with everyone else that it's not appropriate to take other people's children, unless you've had the conversation, out of range of the childrens' ears, with the parents first.
Making it the 'birthday party' then puts pressure on parents to let their dc go, when they might well prefer them not to.

Hobbitation Mon 07-Jan-13 23:41:51

The trailers were all very mild when we went, I was worried about that aspect. But yes, I wouldn't have taken DD's friends, though I knew DD would be OK having seen it myself first.

RufflingFeathers Mon 07-Jan-13 23:47:06

yes, was definitely planning to chat to the two other parents first, although they are both youngest siblings, so my impression is that they are already watching things that I wouldn't let me DS go to - so hoping it's okay.

Now just got to have the negotiation with my DH about who takes them (other DCs to watch at home) ! Thanks all - esp for links to film critique websites x

StuntGirl Tue 08-Jan-13 00:04:17

Glad I'm not the only one enjoying the dwarf eye candy grin

DadOnIce Tue 08-Jan-13 00:08:55

We took our DS, who is 9. He was fine with it. Loved it, in fact.

DumSpiroSperHoHoHo Tue 08-Jan-13 07:23:46

The only bit she shuffled about in was the talky bit with Galadriel in Rivendell.

I fell asleep during that bit blush!

vixsatis Tue 08-Jan-13 08:28:10

Longest three hours of my life. DS (11) thought it terrible as well. Not really unsuitable; just BAD

FriendlyLadybird Tue 08-Jan-13 09:44:43

There's ONE sexy dwarf -- a bit worried about the taste of some of the posters on here!

No, really, it's fine. I took two 11-year-olds and they LOVED it. They would have done at 9 too. They did find Gollum genuinely scary and creepy -- but loved it for that too.

HeadfirstForAMistletoeKiss Tue 08-Jan-13 09:46:54

I took my 10, 9 and 7 year old to see it, they loved it and sat brilliantly. We left the 5 yo with mil.

TeeBee Tue 08-Jan-13 10:00:09

Ooh, I want to take mine to see it. If they haven't seen LOTR can they still keep up with what's happening in this film? we're hoping to borrow the DVDs from someone but not sure we'll get to see them all beforehand.

HeadfirstForAMistletoeKiss Tue 08-Jan-13 10:01:30

The Hobbit is set before LOTR Tee, it's fine to watch it first smile

TeeBee Tue 08-Jan-13 10:03:50

Yeah, I know that but as it was made as a prequel, I wondered whether it was best to watch them in order in which they were developed commercially. I know the commercially released LOTR are not wholly true to the books.

wigglesrock Tue 08-Jan-13 10:10:55

My 8 year old nephew loved it, more than anything ever grin, I don't think he's seen the LOTR films TeeBee

VinegarTits Tue 08-Jan-13 10:13:38

i took my dog to see it, he wasnt scared by the violence at all

SmallIWantForXmasIsA6ft2Dwarf Tue 08-Jan-13 10:33:14

I took my 8yo DS and he loved it and I loved Thorin the fighting is surprisingly bloodless but the only thing DS found unnerving was Gollum.

everlong Tue 08-Jan-13 10:42:04

Ds (6) has seen it and loved it.

piratecat Tue 08-Jan-13 11:25:33

vinegartits, there was a lady at our local cinema (very local) that had her doggy Dachshund with her at Skyfall. He/she was very good and didn't seem to fidget thru it!!

grin at Vinegartits' dog.

Ds hadn't seen any of LOTR or read the story. He knows about ents because his Beavers leader talked about them. That was the sum total of his prior knowledge.

Agreed: only one hot dwarf. Also ds shuffled about a bit when Gandalf and Galadriel were doing their talky bit.

wannaBe Tue 08-Jan-13 11:31:06

I read the book when I was seven.

It's not my ds' cup of tea but I wouldn't be too hesitant about letting him see it (he's ten). Would always check with other parents first though before taking their kids to see a 12A rated film...

EmpressMaud Tue 08-Jan-13 11:39:05

Not a great film, like LOTR, it had lost its charm. Has lots of extra detail (not included in the book) and is very long. Though, yes, certainly fine for an eight year old. I took a younger child to see it, who was familiar with the story, and it was fine.

They were a little confused at Radagast's scene, however!

BunFagFreddie Tue 08-Jan-13 11:45:38

Some of the dwarves are quite sexy, but that's the only erotica in the film. I didn't think there was much gore either, although there were some cracking fight scenes. If you have a 9 year old who loves fantasy, definitely take them to see it, but encourage them to read the book too!

Happypiglet Tue 08-Jan-13 12:56:23

The extra detail is from the LOTR appendices. Tolkein left it out as he was writing for a child audience. But the extra bits make the whole thing make more sense. Such as in the book Gandalf just doesn't go with them from Rivendell and then just reappears sometime later with no mention of why. In the film we know it is because he is meeting Galadriel et al....
No need to see LOTR either first IMHO. Right at the beginning of the film there is a pretty superfluous bit with old Bilbo and Frodo which just confused my kids! I suppose it was so those actors could get in on the act!!!
PS there are two hot dwarves IMO Thorin and kill/Fili not sure which is which!!!

EmpressMaud Tue 08-Jan-13 13:13:02

I don't recall Radagast's rabbit-drawn sled from the appendices.

HerRoyalGoddess Tue 08-Jan-13 13:29:51

I won the Mumsnet comp to see it, I took my whole brood DS(9) DD(6) DS(5)
My sons who I thought would love it, eldest was bored by most of it and the youngest was slightly frightened by the fight scenes, my daughter on the other hand who I thought would hate it was transfixed from start to finish and can't wait to see the next.

And if you ladies need an extra excuse to go Kili the dwarf is sex on legs (Aiden Turner..who played Mitchell in Being Human)

Mother2many Fri 11-Jan-13 04:22:10

Okay, so did your children watch the Lord of the Rings then??? I tried to watch that with my then 8 yr old son, and 6 yr old daughter... I ended up shutting it off with the first big fight scene. They were scared.

So, I went and saw the Hobbit myself, first and it wasn't as "scary" as the Lord of the Rings....

Took the kids... My son now, 9 yrs really enjoyed it... My daughter...well, she handled the movie...not sure if she really like it... or not.. lol Gollum really freaked her out...

Jajas Sat 12-Jan-13 23:50:42

Yes Mother2many my 10 year old DT's have both watched all the LoTR dvd's at home and have seen The Hobbit - loved all of it and not scared at all.

I am the only one who is ever scared blush

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