to think anyone who revives a zombie thread should be banished from MN?

(70 Posts)
MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 11:44:23

Forever.

uptheamp Sat 05-Jan-13 11:45:32

what are zombie threads? threads that have died a long time ago or threads about zombies?

Arthurfowlersallotment Sat 05-Jan-13 11:45:51

I'll let you know in about six months.

picketywick Sat 05-Jan-13 11:46:57

Please let the Mumsnet rule makers make the rules. We are only guests.

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 11:47:44

uptheamp Threads from months or years ago. I've just spent ages reading a zombie thread about wedding photography to discover it's yesterday's news.

wigglybeezer Sat 05-Jan-13 11:47:46

No, many people find mumsnet by googling something they are worried about, a link to an old thread comes up and they post on before realising its an idle thread.

uptheamp Sat 05-Jan-13 11:47:48

lol a pickety

HappyNewBleurgh Sat 05-Jan-13 11:48:09

I suppose it's ok if you revive and say 'I've revived this thread because...' but to drag it out and continue chatting on it as though 5 years haven't elapsed is a bit strangeconfused

TanteRose Sat 05-Jan-13 11:48:29

I'm with you Mardy - it does my head in confused

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 11:48:43

Oh yes. MNers would never argue with MNHQ over the rules.

ILoveTIFFANY Sat 05-Jan-13 11:49:17

Can't really lay down the law.... People are as free to post on them as they are current threads!!

AmberLeaf Sat 05-Jan-13 11:49:32

No not at all.

The content of thread is often informative and helpful, they don't have a use by date on them.

I think people who post Zombie thread on revived older threads should be banned! ok I don't really, but I do think it makes them look silly.

HappyNewBleurgh Sat 05-Jan-13 11:49:39

A big sign or something to make it obvious it's an old one would be useful.

10Sylvia5 Sat 05-Jan-13 11:50:15

Oh dear, Im a newbie and I think Ive just done that (resurrected a zombie thread!)

Dont ban me! Ive only just discovered you all. And I really do want know about anyone who still has SPD

omletta Sat 05-Jan-13 11:50:28

I agree MardyBra

TanteRose Sat 05-Jan-13 11:50:35

Would be good if they could be flagged with a colour

Mugofteaforme Sat 05-Jan-13 11:50:35

So isn't an opinion relevant in time, or do we just close our minds and keep our mouths shut?

IsawFoofyShmoofingSantaClaus Sat 05-Jan-13 11:51:29

Oh I dont know, poor bastards can't win really.

New to MN, look up a subject, contribute to an old thread,( not knowing its not the 'done thing') gets lambasted.

Starts a new thread on a subject that's been done a zillion times, gets lambasted.

It's a lose/lose.

AmberLeaf Sat 05-Jan-13 11:51:58

I think all posts being dated is a bit of a give away really. Its not that hard to check the date is it?

If you post without checking the date, you can't really get annoyed at people for bringing up old threads.

LadyBeagleEyes Sat 05-Jan-13 11:52:20

I agree with Mardy.
Just start a new thread.

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 11:52:31

Why not start a new one and get new opinions Mugoftea (unless it's about P&T parking)? Otherwise we're posting and debating with people who might not even be here any more.

AmberLeaf Sat 05-Jan-13 11:52:39

Excellent point ISawFoofy

uptheamp Sat 05-Jan-13 11:53:19

have to say it doesn't really bother me and if the thread is long and i don't recognise it i do check the date

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 11:53:19

Do you really check the date of every thread Amber?

WitchOfEndor Sat 05-Jan-13 11:53:20

Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains

<lurches around>

<eyeballs OP and realises it's not that kind of zombie thread>

<picks up eyeball and lurches out of thread>

chunkydory Sat 05-Jan-13 11:53:44

To poster 10Sylvia5: I have spd and have had for nearly three years during and after two pregnancies. I am going out now but pm me if you like we can try and chat over the weekend.

What's the time limit though? What's the distinction between "resurrected zombie" and "continuing a recent thread"? Obv a 2010 thrash is a zombie, but Oct 2012 about Syria?

LadyIsabellaWrotham Sat 05-Jan-13 11:53:57

It depends. "What do you think of....?" threads can still be worthwhile, but threads where people are giving specific advice to OPs whose children are now five years older make me very twitchy, and posting "ZOMBIE THREAD" is irresistible.

TheLoneRanger Sat 05-Jan-13 11:55:55

Foofy's right.

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 11:56:05

I accept it can be a mistake if you're a newbie. I'm not getting at anyone in particular. There just seem to have been a whole spate of them recently.

HappyNewBleurgh Sat 05-Jan-13 11:57:10

Old threads are often still relevant, but mn is fast moving and people posting now assume that they are talking to the present, only to discover it was years ago and the original posters have long since left the building which is confused.

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Sat 05-Jan-13 11:58:06

I am with you on this one, gives me the right hump!!

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 11:59:09

I got a 50% hit rate with you then Hokey

Pagwatch Sat 05-Jan-13 11:59:21

I don't mind a zombie thread about a subject where the poster is seeking info - like Sylvia .

I fucking hate people who dredge up some three year old thread about a parking bun fight or some such and add 'yabu and a cow and I think you should be grateful you have a car and another thing....'
Wankers.

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 12:00:17

The voice of reason as ever Pagwatch. Sorry Sylvia - I haven't seen your thread and I agree there is a distinction.

Pagwatch Sat 05-Jan-13 12:03:39

Hahaha. The trouble with zombie threads is you sometimes find yourself on them still talking bollocks 5 years ago.

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey Sat 05-Jan-13 12:04:36

That's not bad mardy!

Recently i find myself thinking how reasoned Pags responses are quite a lot!

<unsure if this is a good thing or a bad thing grin>

At which pacific point in time does a thread become defined as zonbie?

Huh?

Huh?

Huh?

Let's have the MardyRules then, the grumpychips.

AmberLeaf Sat 05-Jan-13 12:10:26

Yes Mardy, I check the date.

LadyBeagleEyes Sat 05-Jan-13 12:12:09

I find it becomes a Zombie thread when I read posts from banned posters or people that namechanged 3 years ago.
I don't always check the date.

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 12:12:14

The Mardy rules would probably have subclause 23.3 banning the multiple posting and the use of the word "pacific" even in irony, unless referring to a big ocean.

Capital P.

ApplesinmyPocket Sat 05-Jan-13 12:29:20

People are very quick to leap in with 'Zombie thread' though. I saw one such post the other day to someone who had made a new reply in a topic that had been silent only since mid-December!

Never quite sure why the idea of an old thread being resurrected arouses so much Headgirly ire here on MN. I run a discussion board myself (very small) and people often revive old threads and that's fine.

ApplesinmyPocket Sat 05-Jan-13 12:31:35

.... my board is not at all very bunfighty though smile

WorraLiberty Sat 05-Jan-13 12:34:10

HQ should lock them after about 6 months

That way they're still there to read and if anyone wants to discuss anything, they can start a new thread with a link for reference.

kim147 Sat 05-Jan-13 12:41:09

You want zombie threads - go on TES primary and look at teachers asking for planning on a project that is over 2 years old. They search out the thread and ask for help 2 years later usually by requesting the OP email them.

IamtheZombie Sat 05-Jan-13 12:48:57

WorraLiberty Sat 05-Jan-13 12:34:10

HQ should lock them after about 6 months

That way they're still there to read and if anyone wants to discuss anything, they can start a new thread with a link for reference.

Yes, excellent idea.

Zombie finds the main problem with zombie threads is when the reviving poster is asking for help for a similar problem. The vast majority of people who subsequently respond are responding to the original OP and don't realise:

a) that it IS an old thread, and

b) that a new poster is asking for advice so the new poster gets overlooked.

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 12:49:13

"People are very quick to leap in with 'Zombie thread' though"

After I've waded through 10 pages.

PickledInAPearTree Sat 05-Jan-13 12:51:27

Mardy you are STRICT today grin

CornyClam Sat 05-Jan-13 12:55:42

It's very embarrassing when you see yourself on them spouting garbage. blush

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 14:09:41

Don't tell DH pickled. He'll be getting ideas.

PickledInAPearTree Sat 05-Jan-13 14:14:42

Haha! grin

ll31 Sat 05-Jan-13 14:25:22

What does it matter? I really can't see how you could be upset by this..

AmberLeaf Sat 05-Jan-13 14:25:22

Locked threads are even more annoying all this zombie nonsense!

AmberLeaf Sat 05-Jan-13 14:26:34

Locked threads are what you get on netmums when the head girl mods want to stop conversation that doesn't fit their mindset.

Foggles Sat 05-Jan-13 14:28:53

I like Worra's idea.

Either that or threads turn to a different colour after a certain period. (They could be seasonal colours to please the S & B regulars)

Otherwise I think I am in danger of posting on an old thread and arguing with my younger self grin

I remember getting all irate over an AIBU that I had randomly clicked on. Typed out a tirade of abuse a kindly worded reply to the OP and just in time realised the thread was about 4 years old. Instead of clicking "next page" I'd accidently clicked something else which took me into the past murky depths of AIBU.

grin

JaquelineHyde Sat 05-Jan-13 14:40:29

Hang on a minute many a times I have started a thread to get some opinions/answers from Mumsnetters and have had post after post of miserable fuckers screaming at me to just do a search of the archives because there have been a million threads on the topic!

So if you search and old thread and revive it for more up to date opinions you should be banned but if you start a new thread on a topic previously discussed the howlers of MN ruin the thread by telling you to bog off to the archives.

I have an idea why don't people just take responsibilty for what they chose to read, if it's a subject you are bored of don't read it and if you do fancy a read check the date before you start trawling through!

thegreylady Sat 05-Jan-13 14:45:26

I always forget to look until I have posted then I feel really stupid sad
[reallystupid doesnt mind though grin ]

Lizzylou Sat 05-Jan-13 14:46:36

I agree with Pag and Jaq on this I think.

Search the archives for info shizzle, OK.
Dumbass rehashing of arguments, not on.

bruffin Sat 05-Jan-13 14:51:03

I agree
Anyone bumping for advice very rarely gets replied to as everyone is replying to the op.
I like the idea of a different colour or blocked after certain time.

Oops, I resurrected a zombie thread last week and I usually check the date, not quite sure how I ended up on an old one. A different colour background for the OP would be a quick visual indicator.

cocoachannel Sat 05-Jan-13 15:27:30

<makes note on calendar to revive thread in August>

What is sometimes baffling is that they are often revived because they were found through a search of either MN or an Internet search engine, and it's often impossible to ascertain why on earth the reviving poster was looking for.

nickelbabylyinginamanger Sat 05-Jan-13 15:29:26

no.

there's a good thread that's been revived this week about Kirstie allsopp and the NCT

it's got as many current posts on as it had originally.

sometimes it's good to start up a discussion again.

it is annoying to find out it's a zombie thread though.

cocoachannel Sat 05-Jan-13 18:18:49

The KA thread is back because she's back in the news/ on Twitter bemoaning the NCT again so relevant. I guess this refers to once less current. Agree it's a good example of where they can be resurrected though!

scottishmummy Sat 05-Jan-13 18:22:57

it's not the worst mn indiscretion I dont have strong feelings about it
I have responded to old threads but I don't look date or poster
only iffy if trying to be mischievous

Unacceptable Sat 05-Jan-13 18:50:08

I think there would be a lot of us banned if MNHQ took your idea on board holds hand up to previously not checking dates

Unacceptable Sat 05-Jan-13 18:50:59

I quickly just checked date of OP just incase!!!

Startail Sat 05-Jan-13 18:59:43

Not if they are interesting and the info on them is useful.

COCKadoodledooo Sat 05-Jan-13 19:56:57

I revived a 2 year old thread of mine today. Am the only one who has posted on it though so don't think it's me that's pissed you off!

I recall one I saw once where there had been only one post, and then the same poster had revived it, three years later. The next post had me spluttering tea - "OP, you do realise you are talking to yourself 3 years ago don't you?" grin

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