threesocksfullofchocs
Fri 28-Dec-12 13:55:51
???
some of us are caught up in kid land....
Roasties
Fri 28-Dec-12 14:18:31
I try and find a link.....
They are linking her to Jimmy Saville and saying she never Argentina as a threat so the whole war thing was political
Roasties
Fri 28-Dec-12 14:20:12
jeez If I could type I'd be more dangerous than Thatcher
I'll She never saw
roundtoit
Fri 28-Dec-12 14:26:38
read on guardian site that she made sure she paid all the costs for finding her stupid son who got lost in the desert. cannot stand the woman but can you imagine this lot in parliament now paying out anything from their own money. They claim for bloody toilet roll , kit cats and anything else they can get away with.
yohohoho
Fri 28-Dec-12 18:44:19
I can't find anything that say anything that makes me think anything bad.
She and jimmy savile communicated via letter and she donated money to Mandeville hospital. Lots of people knew jimmy Saville and donated money. Doesn't mean they were party to child abuse.
There was an agenda for Argentina. The agenda was 'we want that island and they tried to take it back, we will show them' which was pretty evident at the time and since.
mx5hairdresser
Fri 28-Dec-12 18:45:00
she should never be forgiven for the falklands war. all those lives lost for some shitty little island
Alisvolatpropiis
Fri 28-Dec-12 18:45:54
Er just because she knew Jimmy Saville doesn't mean she knew he was a paedophile 
I think the Argentine agenda was quite real as well.
MrsBW
Fri 28-Dec-12 18:46:23
And back on topic.... Link? What's been said?
YuleBritannia
Fri 28-Dec-12 18:46:47
mx5hairdresser
Your comment shows how little you know about the islands.
MsElleTow
Fri 28-Dec-12 18:48:11
mx5 "some shitty little island!"
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For a start The Falkland Islands are more than one island, they are not shitty and more importantly the people who live there are British!
Uppermid
Fri 28-Dec-12 18:50:08
Shitty little island?! Really. What about the people who live there? I think they were (and still are) incredibly grateful.
This reminds of the time a friend said they couldn't see the poi t of the armed forces ......
Mx5, if you lived on those shitty little islands you would rather pleased they weren't just given to Argentina I would imagine?
AllSnowballsAndNoKnickers
Fri 28-Dec-12 18:53:22
Can't beat a 'Thatcher' thread for bringing out the frothing ill-informed loons 
tiggytape
Fri 28-Dec-12 18:54:24
mx5 - It wasn't just about defending the islands but freeing the British people who live on them. They desperately wanted British help once their home had been taken by force.
Hundreds (probably thousands) of people are 'linked' to Jimmy Saville in one way or another via a lot of the charitable work of that time. He was a key figure in many fundraising and cahritable events of the era so anyone else contributing to or dealing with charities may be seen to have links with him. That doesn't mean they are linked to anythign else.
LeBFG
Fri 28-Dec-12 18:55:57
The war was hugely popular at the time. It has certainly been proposed long before now it was at least partly a publicity/distraction stunt....politicians do that sort of thing all the time. So no news there.
Fraid the Savile/Thatcher link get a big whatever from me.
Can't say I've read anything so very dreadful. She found it hard to believe there was a credible argentine threat before the invasion because invading would have been so stupid - with hr there.
As for a saville "link" she knew him. So did lots of people. Big deal.
Horsemad
Fri 28-Dec-12 19:07:05
Re the Falklands - it's also about the oil...
FrankelcenseAndMyhrr
Fri 28-Dec-12 19:14:19
My DH spent 7 months in the Falklands a few years ago (armed forces tour of duty). The islanders are fiercely patriotic and adamant that they wish to be British and not Argentinean. The right to self determination is enshrined in UN law and we are morally obliged to protect our citizens.
Allowing Argentina to take the islands by force would have been a disastrous message to send to other tinpot dictatorships
Jux
Fri 28-Dec-12 19:40:36
My cousin was involved in the Falklands war. It is ignorant and idiotic to say they are shitty little islands and to onfer that the only reason we defended them was some mad idea of Thatcher's. All those people who live there are British citizens; it is our duty to defend them from invasion.
It is one of the few wars which of the late 20th century which was entirely justified.
EldritchCleavage
Fri 28-Dec-12 23:49:42
I could never understand, then or now, how so many right-on people decided it was ok to abandon the Falklanders to invasion by a facist junta. Because they were blinded by hatred of Thatche, I suppose. I hated her too, but come on.
BoneyBackJefferson
Fri 28-Dec-12 23:58:03
yohohoho
"There was an agenda for Argentina. The agenda was 'we want that island and they tried to take it back, we will show them' which was pretty evident at the time and since."
Tha Falkland Islands have never been part of Argentina.
Alisvolatpropiis
Sat 29-Dec-12 00:00:53
Exactly Boney. It's not geographically close to automatically fall into being Argentinian territory.
The Falklands were taken from the French by Britain.
threesocksfullofchocs
Sat 29-Dec-12 00:01:00
FrankelcenseAndMyhrr and Jux 100% with you
yohohoho
Sat 29-Dec-12 00:01:35
I didn't mean there was an agenda for Argentina. I meant for the war. Typed a bit fast and had as bouncing on my knee and put the wrong word in. 
Should have Said 'there was an agenda for the war'
Alisvolatpropiis
Sat 29-Dec-12 00:02:17
Well of course there wa an agenda...protecting British subjects.
SantasHoHoHo
Sat 29-Dec-12 00:05:54
All those people who live there are British citizens; it is our duty to defend them from invasion.
Hear hear!
sashh
Sat 29-Dec-12 05:22:47
sashh
Sat 29-Dec-12 05:24:16
sorry pressed post too soon
the government changed their citizenship to that of overseas territory
lotsofdogshere
Sat 29-Dec-12 09:21:46
I loathed Thatcher and felt the 80's were like Narnia, always winter and never christmas. I was shocked by the Falklands war, but how could she do anything else but respond with military might, to an invasion of British territory, with British citizens who want to remain British. The armed forces involved in defending the Falklands experienced such horrors that many of them continue to suffer psychologically, despite their pride in defending these "shitty little islands".