to not let the council man in bedroom?

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tomorrow I have a councilman coming to inspect my house, apparently we may be in the wrong band for council tax. I asked what he needs to see and he said that he'll need to 'have a look around inside the house and carry out a full inspection'shock

I own my house and well, its not a show home and my method of tidying is usually make sure all house is tidy, except for my bedroom where all the crap from the rest of the house is stuffed to give the appearance of a clean and tidy homewink wibu to refuse to allow him into my bedroom? he's welcome to fully inspect the rest of the joint? wwyd?

MrsKeithRichards Tue 11-Dec-12 16:20:28

Just let him in! He's not a prospective buyer.

PippinWoo Tue 11-Dec-12 16:23:04

I doubt he really NEEDS to see in the master bedroom, but even if he did just say "sorry it's messy" and let him peak round the door. He probably just needs to see how big the room is and if it's got a en suite. It doesn't matter what he thinks. I'm the same as you - my bedroom is always a massive tip at the expense of keeping the rest of the place presentable!

I'd lock the rottweiller in there and then let him at his peril (kids work well as well, grin). Seriously, you are having a council man round to assess for council tax??? I've never heard of that. Have you requested the visit? If you have then I think YABU, if you haven't and don;t want it then I don;t see why you should invite him into your home at all.

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep Tue 11-Dec-12 16:24:21

Presumably you want to make your house look as bad as possible, to be in a lower council tax band, so in your shoes, I wouldn't go nuts on the tidying up.

Softlysoftly Tue 11-Dec-12 16:24:56

Do you have to let them in??

MrsKeithRichards Tue 11-Dec-12 16:28:06

The state of your house doesn't dictate the rate you pay!

It's about size, rooms, loos etc. Not whether it's clutter free or not!

exexpat Tue 11-Dec-12 16:28:58

I'm sure he won't be bothered by any mess - he's not an estate agent or your MiL.

One thing did occur to me, though - are you absolutely sure he is from the council? I have read recently about scams where companies tell people they can help get their council tax band downgraded (for a fee), when in fact you can do the same thing yourself without paying a fee, and often you don't get downgraded anyway. Did you get sent an official letter by the council, or is this just someone who phoned/knocked on your door?

openerofjars Tue 11-Dec-12 16:29:12

You'll never see him again, so it doesn't matter.

Themumsnotroastingonanopenfire Tue 11-Dec-12 16:30:43

What, seriously? Are you sure he's for real? I find it hard to believe the council is allowed to do this.

Themumsnotroastingonanopenfire Tue 11-Dec-12 16:33:41

You don't even have to let them inside if you don't want to.

So I'm not just the only one who thinks this sounds dodgy, ring your local council and check that they are behind this.

no I didn't ask him to come- I got a letter to say he was coming and when, so I phoned to query it. he says that my house has been used as an example for why another property should have a lower band- so he's coming to see if they can raise mine presumablysad .

the letter wasn't headed though, so now I'm querying it.

perhaps I'll have to let him see my mess, although in a three bed, having seen the other two bedrooms ita not exactly hard to gauge a size of the third is it?!

pippop1 Tue 11-Dec-12 16:34:49

I think it's fair enough to let him see the room to be honest if you are trying to get into a lower council tax band. I don't think the tidyness of the room will be considered related to which band you are in.

EuroShagmore Tue 11-Dec-12 16:35:39

As other have said, are you sure he is legit?

Sallyingforth Tue 11-Dec-12 16:36:00

Did you contact the council first to ask for a revaluation?
If not, it is definitely a scam to get a fee from you.

I was under the impression that a house can only be rebanded upwards when it is sold?

EuroShagmore Tue 11-Dec-12 16:36:39

So the letter wasn't on headed paper? There is no way I would be letting this person into my house.

ParsingFancy Tue 11-Dec-12 16:37:15

Oh yes, my workplace was targetted for a scam like this a couple of times, where someone claimed to be able to challenge council tax banding in court.

Definitely call council to check!

nickelbabylyinginamanger Tue 11-Dec-12 16:38:23

I would contact the council if I were you.
it sounds proper dodgy.

LaurieBlueBell Tue 11-Dec-12 16:39:55

Sounds like a scam. The letter should be on headed paper.

Don't let him in at all until you have spoken to the council.

Goodness- the letter hasn't even come addressed to me its to the counciltax payer. and the number is an 03000 number. it would appear I have been an idiot. off to find council number to call them.

caramelwaffle Tue 11-Dec-12 16:42:30

Do not let this man in to your house.

You received an unsolicited letter with No letterhead.

Contact the council direct.

exexpat Tue 11-Dec-12 16:42:59

Was the phone number you called on the (unheaded) letter, or did you contact him through the council switchboard? I would double-check if I were you. Could be legit, could be a rebanding scam, could be sophisticated distraction burglary technique...

EuroShagmore Tue 11-Dec-12 16:43:03

Hurrah for the power of Mumsnet.

ZhenThereWereTwo Tue 11-Dec-12 16:43:40

Doesn't sound right to me, all council letters I have received and those I sent out when I used to work for one always were on headed paper.

If he is council staff and you have his name and department you should be able to call their switchboard and be put through to him/someone else who can verify he is who he says he is.

He should also show you a council pass with his name and photograph on it before entry.

Seeing as you own your house and as you say: "he says that my house has been used as an example for why another property should have a lower band- so he's coming to see if they can raise mine presumably" I would refuse them entry anyway, if it doesn't help you why let them in?

You are not obliged to by law as you are not a council tenant and it is not an emergency situation affecting the public or council property.

xkcdfangirl Tue 11-Dec-12 16:43:47

Sounds like a dodgy scam to me. Don't let him in.

exexpat Tue 11-Dec-12 16:44:03

Ah - x-posted. Sounds v dodgy.

Maybe it's a good thing you were worried enough about the mess to check on MN.

wearingpurple Tue 11-Dec-12 16:44:34

We got one of these a couple of weeks ago. It's a bunch of scammers offering to challenge your banding in court for you if you give them a heap of money.

Hobbitation Tue 11-Dec-12 16:45:06

We had one of those letters from a company. Discussed it with DH then it went in the recycling.

caramelwaffle Tue 11-Dec-12 16:45:31

Sounds like a scam to a premium number then they'll also chase you up to burgle your house.

quoteunquote Tue 11-Dec-12 16:48:03

Please phone the council on their number, not the number on the letter, this sounds like a scam,

the council already know the size of your house, the planning department have your local area covered.

jumpingjackhash Tue 11-Dec-12 16:50:33

This sounds so dodgy, there's no way I'd be letting them in! Even if it was legit, I'd be in two minds whether to let someone from the council snoop around my house for tax purposes.

Keep us updated!

spoke to council and benefits office, who said it would be valuations office and gave me the number- the same 03000 number I'be called. so it is legit.

I'm now considering not being here though (too cowardly to refuse entry direct) if I don't have to let him in, I could take dc to cinema insteadgrin

jumpingjackhash Tue 11-Dec-12 17:02:55

The cinema sounds much more agreeable than a council valuations officer 'inspection'!

suburbophobe Tue 11-Dec-12 17:04:19

So the letter wasn't on headed paper? There is no way I would be letting this person into my house.


MrsKeithRichards Tue 11-Dec-12 18:29:41

We got upgrade thanks to someone round the corner challenging their band.

Apparently the bit at the back of my living room where I can fit a bookcase and a table and chairs is big enough to be classed as another room.

GlaikitFizzogTheChristmasElf Tue 11-Dec-12 18:36:41

I didn't think they could raise the banding while you still live there, but when you move the next occupants would go up a band.

When we bought the house we are I. Now all the paperwork said we were ct band B, then when they sent us all the bills and stuff when we moved in we have been re-evaluated at band D! shock the extension the précis owners had put on raised out banding!

IneedAsockamnesty Tue 11-Dec-12 18:40:17

They don't normally go inside the house.

oh no mrskeith, I was clinging to the hope that they can't change my band. why would anyone use others properties as evidence that theirs needs lowering? surely its obvious how that scenario will end! selfish grumps!

teenagersmother Tue 11-Dec-12 18:46:07

Quite a few years ago we challenged the council tax band we were in and the valuations guy came and looked at the house. Yes, he did look in every room but very briefly and it was worth it as we were downgraded which meant a saving on what we were paying.

QODRestYeMerryGentlemen Tue 11-Dec-12 18:50:14

When we moved in, I filled out the questionnaire thingy we all got, ummmmm census? Can't recall and dithered aut putting 3 or 4 bedrooms as we have 3 upstairs and 1 down (4th bed/study/second lounge)
Buggerity damn it they didn't know the 3rd bedroom upstairs existed so told us we may get rebanded one day. won't be admitting to the en suite we've added to large main bedroom since then either

peaceandlovebunny Tue 11-Dec-12 20:23:07

don't let him in at all. those assessments are done from outside, often from an office with people drawing lines on maps.

lovelyladuree Tue 11-Dec-12 21:13:59

I really worry for the next generation, seriously.

emsyj Tue 11-Dec-12 21:32:16

Aren't there very limited circumstances in which they can re-assess your council tax band...?

We got a letter for reassessment when we bought our house and declined the visit as we were getting married and would be on honeymoon on the suggested date - then the next date we were abroad at another wedding. They gave up after that, and happily we are still in the low band! grin

I would tell them that date doesn't suit, and keep putting them off. And check whether they are entitled to reassess you too.

OwlBabies Tue 11-Dec-12 22:10:13

Sadly, councils can re-band your property while you're living there. It happened to us in our last place - it had been extended (by previous owner) since the original banding decision, and we had an inspector come round to count and measure rooms. Went up a band, and we had to start paying the higher rate immediately. But back to the original question - the state of the rooms is neither here nor there, all they are interested in is the amount of space you have.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Tue 11-Dec-12 22:26:44

Don't let them in! You are under no obligation to. You don't even have to allow them in the back garden. Just shut your blinds and go out. They will the. Do their Ssessment from the street.

DoingitOnTheRoofTopWithSanta Tue 11-Dec-12 22:28:26

make a wall of junk in the room so he can't measure properly smile

emsyj Tue 11-Dec-12 22:32:23

The trigger for the attempt to re-assess our house was the change of ownership - the previous owners had done a loft conversion and for some reason they couldn't re-assess then, but had to wait til there was a sale?? So OP the conclusion seems to be, don't let them in! grin

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