To not want a NYE fireworks display outside my front door?

(193 Posts)
flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:13:53

ARRRGGHH!!

Am fuming. DH took the dog out for a walk this morning and happening to notice a poster up advertising a big fireworks display to take place on our street on New Year's Eve, and inviting the whole town.

He went on the Community Association website and discovered that it was accurate, and there is a plan for a big event on our road and everyone is invited to bring their NYE parties along for the fireworks.

For background, we live on one of the mainish roads in our small town/large village. The road is about 3/4 residential, with 5 or 6 commercial properties as well, a chemist, hairdresser, etc. It's next to the river, hence the choice. However there is a big field elsewhere in the village that can be and is usually used for this type of event.

Because our house is right opposite the river, the event will be literally outside our door, with hundreds of people, mostly drunk probably, and extremely loud fireworks. We have two small children and a puppy.

At no point have residents been consulted about this at all, and we only found out about it by accident this morning, otherwise we would have been non the wiser.

AIBU to be absolutely fuming?

DH has rung the Community Association this morning and been completely and unapologetically fobbed off.

squeakytoy Tue 11-Dec-12 10:15:35

How do the other residents feel about it though? You might me in the minority.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:16:29

I would be surprised if we're in the minority, am contacting neighbours to find out, but given we've had no consultation or notification at all, I wouldn't be surprised if they are as in the dark as we were.

Nancy66 Tue 11-Dec-12 10:16:52

...I think it sounds like fun.

You'll get a bird's eye view from the warmth of your home. Puppy will be fine if you're there. Kids that are old enough will love it and little ones will sleep right through.

Think you are being a bit of a miseryguts

LadyBeagleBaublesandBells Tue 11-Dec-12 10:17:51

Surely it's just one night in the year.
You're being a bit of a nimby.

EuroShagmore Tue 11-Dec-12 10:17:54

I think YAB a bit U.

It sounds like a lovely community event. I know it will be tough on the puppy, but there are things that you can do to minimise the trauma for him.

MissCellania Tue 11-Dec-12 10:17:54

What about the people who live next to where these things are usually held? Don't they get a break? It sounds very NIMBY of you, its only one night.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:18:17

You can't possibly be serious that kids will sleep through fireworks right outside the house, Nancy, good grief yours must sleep deeply!

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:19:36

It's one night a year. You have to be right out in the middle of a field to avoid fireworks.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:20:23

There's a perfectly good non residential field where these things normally take place, and I'd love to see all you be absolutely fine about fireworks right outside your door with small children.

Yes I realise this is AIBU and I'm perfectly prepared for you all to say IABU. I just disagree!

And do none of you think it's reasonable to expect to be consulted/informed beforehand?

squeakytoy Tue 11-Dec-12 10:20:51

It is NYE, there will be fireworks going off all over the place at midnight.. puppies are also a lot less spooked by fireworks than older dogs normally too, so this is a good way perhaps to prepare him ready for bonfire night next year.

It is only one night.. just join in the fun.

MissCellania Tue 11-Dec-12 10:21:38

I'd be fine with it, I am fine with it. Our village fireworks will be only metres from us, the kids will sleep through and I won't have to miss them, so I'm pleased.

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:23:20

Small children will probably sleep through, ds always did.

If you are worried about the dog, perhaps you could get some doggie valium from the vet beforehand?

I doubt they'll cancel it just for you so probably not worth getting het up about it, it's only one night.

Nancy66 Tue 11-Dec-12 10:25:01

how long are the fireworks going to last for? Half an hour at the most....

BsshBossh Tue 11-Dec-12 10:25:24

Many of our neighbours hold NYE fireworks in their gardens so it's always loud for us. We put DD (4) to bed as usual at 7pm and if she wakes up due to noise we simply get her out of bed, open the curtains and let her watch the fireworks then settle her back to sleep again when it's all over. It's only a few times a year (counting Bonfore Night, Diwali etc). YABU.

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:26:07

Our neighbours do too Bssh

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:26:10

I genuinely think if you could actually see the layout you wouldn't be fine with it if you lived here, but I appreciate you can't.

I have to say I'm pretty astonished no one thinks a bit of consultation/information would have been appropriate though.

Yes lots of fireworks always on NYE, of course, but usually (well here anyway) in places that aren't right outside resident's front doors, usually on fields/parks etc, so not literally right outside people's doors.

Yes, YAB unseasonable. I am happy to confirm that I'd be happy to have fireworks outside my door with small children.

It's hard to say on consultation without knowing the exact set-up, but I'd agree that I'd expect to be informed beforehand.

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:27:25

My dad lives right on a common where there are HUGE displays every year, I know what it's like, the house shakes but then it's over and done with.

EricNorthmansFangBanger Tue 11-Dec-12 10:28:09

I'm going to say YANBU. I wouldn't like to have to put up with the excessive noise that you'll most likely have outside your home either. I would have thought they'd at least let residents know in advance!

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:28:52

You are all WRONG!

gringrin

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:29:14

Except Eric. grin

squeakytoy Tue 11-Dec-12 10:30:54

they have let you know in advance though.. they have put up posters.. and it is 3 weeks away.. plenty of time to get blackout curtains and ear protectors..

You should've been informed, if not consulted. I probably wouldn't be thrilled either but it's not the end of the world. You have several weeks' notice if you really need to make alternative arrangements for the puppy/DCs. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere, it's unusual for midnight on NYE to be silent and devoid of bangs and cheers anyway. At least you can witness it all from the warmth and comfort of your house if you want to.

Nancy66 Tue 11-Dec-12 10:31:41

Try living on the Notting Hill carnival parade route and having revellers piss up against your front door - as I did for 3 years before moving.

One time a guy was being sick on my step. I banged on the window, he looked up, waved and then carried on puking!

grin

I wouldn't like it. But I am an unsociable arse with territorial tendencies.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:32:05

Do you know what, I think if they had consulted with us early on, and been able to answer our questions, reassure us about crowd control, safety, all the other stuff, and given us time to decide whether we were happy to stay or make plans to be elsewhere, I would have been a lot more laid back about it.

I'm most fuming that we've only accidentally found out, it's 3 weeks away and had DH not seen that poster, we would have had the entire town descending on us at 11.30 at night and fireworks going off without having a clue what was going on.

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:32:16

Exactly nancy! Blerk!

Fakebook Tue 11-Dec-12 10:32:21

Bah. Stop being a spoil sport. Party pooper.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:33:27

squeaky they haven't let us know in advance, DH has accidentally found out today, on a poster that isn't actually anywhere on this street. We haven't formally been notified, let alone consulted in any way.

Fakebook Tue 11-Dec-12 10:33:44

New Years only comes around.... Once a year. YABU.

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:34:06

Well you would know what was going on because you would presumably open your curtains and see it was a display grin

squeakytoy Tue 11-Dec-12 10:34:42

crowd control? safety? just stay indoors and you will be fine!

it is a village NYE party, not Trafalgar Square!

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:35:19

Happy for people to think wrongly that IABU but that's a bit unnecessary Fakebook.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:36:29

yes, crowd control and safety, squeakytoy. Again, without knowing the area, the number of people this is likely to involve and the layout, I guess you might think that sounds overdramatic, but I can assure you it isn't.

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:36:45

What squeaky said and fakebook didn't say anything unnecessary confused

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:37:07

What do you think will happen OP?

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:38:38

What will happen? Nothing probably! grin

I'm just cross and ranting, and disappointed at the Community Association tbh, not bothering to involve the local community and being unhelpful and obstructive.

DoesntTurkeyNSproutSoupDragOn Tue 11-Dec-12 10:38:53

NIMBY

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:39:20

LOL grin

WorraLorraTurkey Tue 11-Dec-12 10:39:48

Lol @ 'crowd control'...how big are your neighbour's parties? grin

I think it sounds like fun.

It's one night and you all might enjoy it...including the kids and the puppy!

Its only one night of the year, I'd let it go if I were you.

At least you get to see the bonfire and fireworks without having get cold grin

squeakytoy Tue 11-Dec-12 10:40:39

Oh you do sound bloody overdramatic.. this IS an event FOR the local community isnt it??. You sound an utter killjoy. grin

I suggest you never move to Brockham in Surrey..

Gillyweed001 Tue 11-Dec-12 10:44:09

I think they should have at least consulted you and the other residences. However, the way they have gone about it sounds like they would have gone ahead regardless!

I would be absolutely livid about the lack of consultation to be honest, so for that YANBU. Not sure I would be that cross about the event itself.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:45:20

Kids won't enjoy it, they are 5 and 3 so will be in bed.

It's likely to involve an awful lot of people, and the road is narrow, with a narrow pavement then my house (no front garden or anything) and the other side an even narrower pavement and then the river. I don't even know how they are going to physically manage to set off fireworks and keep people safely back in this space tbh, which is one of the things we'd have asked given the opportunity.

Anyway, as I said, without local knowledge I guess I might sounds unseasonable but I reckon you'd all be a bit fed up about it if you lived here and weren't even told.

WorraLorraTurkey Tue 11-Dec-12 10:50:51

They should have told you...but I'd still love it and so would my kids at that age.

Being NYE I'd let them watch it with me and DH from the window and make it a massive fun thing - unless they slept through it of course...then I'd be disappointed blush

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:52:33

What makes you think they haven't done risk assessments etc. Lots of big displays are set off remotely now, aren't they, or have I just made that up?

NOne of this will matter though OP, because you won't be there! grin

Nancy66 Tue 11-Dec-12 10:53:39

if the idea is to have the fireworks over the river then they'll probably be set off from launches on the water

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 10:53:54

No idea whether they've done risk assessment or any of that.

Where will I be?

ChaoticforlifenotjustChristmas Tue 11-Dec-12 10:54:54

Just because someone doesn't want fireworks going off in front of their house does not make them a spoilsport or partypooper hmm

Not everybody has the money to go out and buy ear muffs/blackout curtains either.

OP YANBU I wouldn't want it outside my house either. The lack of consultation is wrong too. Will they be prepared to compensate you if there is any damage to your property?

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 10:55:17

You'll be indoors with your door shut won't you? confused

CwtchesAndCuddles Tue 11-Dec-12 11:00:18

Op I think you are getting a hard time!!!

You should have been consulted as the event is so close to your home. It is so easy for everyone on here to be flippant but I'm sure most of them would have something to say if it affected them.

I would be very pissed off to find out about it by accident too!

MerylStrop Tue 11-Dec-12 11:00:41

You should have been consulted
That is a cock up
And why they are fobbing you off
I'd seek assurances about any H&S concerns but be prepared to go along and have an ace time.

But do you really put your kids to bed before the bells on NYE?

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 11:01:28

Oh I see, well yes probably indoors, but I'd count that as being there! Sorry I thought you meant we wouldn't be at home/would be away or something.

We don't even have double glazing.

Chaotic given their approach so far I'd be surprised if there's any offer of compensation for damage.

WorraLorraTurkey Tue 11-Dec-12 11:03:01

Of course they've done risk assessments, they wouldn't have got their public liability insurance without it.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 11:03:13

Er, well yes I put my kids to bed on NYE. They are 5 and 3! Do others keep them up that long, really? Am I unusual? They wouldn't physically manage to stay awake that long even if I tried, and they have plenty of years ahead of them to stay up.

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 11:04:32

Ds is 11 and last year was the first year he stayed up, wouldn't have been able to keep his eyes open when he was younger, not unusual ime OP.

fiftyval Tue 11-Dec-12 11:05:35

I am not commenting on whether Yabu or not but whoever is organising this event will have to have done a risk assessment. They will have to have public liability insurance and will probably need to have consulted the local authority's licensing department - particularly as it will be a noisy event.
Perhaps if you asked the organisers to see their risk assesment they may be able to reassure you on some of your concerns eg crowd control etc as it will have to be covered by the RA. They must have done this as they can be sued in the event of anything going wrong. You could also check with the local authority that they are aware of the evnt too.

kinkyfuckery Tue 11-Dec-12 11:12:08

Is there a picture of the layout on the website?

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 11:15:09

Thanks fiftyval, will certainly ask to see the RA and check with the local authority, think DH was going to check with them this morning anyway.

No picture I'm afraid kinky.

MerylStrop Tue 11-Dec-12 11:16:04

oh, mine have always stayed up.....most of my friend kids seem to as well, even the tinies

YANBU to be pissed off about it. The organisers have been very inconsiderate. But you may have to try to make the best of it.

PlaySchool Tue 11-Dec-12 11:21:32

Who owns the land? Has it been used for community events before? Village Green?

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 11:25:06

It's a road Playschool, so owned by the council or whoever owns roads. I'm assuming the plan is to shut the road to traffic. There is a park/recreation ground the other side of the river, and I'd not be bothered about it being there, I'd be resigned to it as being fair enough, although there's not been fireworks there before.

But the publicity and the Community Association are clear that it's on the street rather than over the other side on the park.

There is a bit of the pavement outside the house which we technically own according to our deeds.

CaroleService Tue 11-Dec-12 11:25:15

They should have obtained a Temporary Events Notice from the local council, I would have thought: these only cover events under 500 people anyway. Also, there may be local laws prohibiting drinking in the street which wouldn't be overridden by the TEN .

The police have to be consulted about this sort of event, too.

So you could ask the council and the police licensing liaison officer.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 11:25:54

The recreation ground over the other side of the river isn't lit which I presume is why it's not there.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 11:27:17

DH asked the community association person whether they'd informed/involved the police and it was clear they hadn't, from the fumbling answer they gave.

Not heard of TENs, thanks Carole

doublecakeplease Tue 11-Dec-12 11:32:22

I'd love it - would be perched at an upstairs window with a glass of fizz with DP (ds slept through the fireworks we let off in the garden so would prob Miss those too - he's 10 months) and any friends / family who wanted to gatecrash the ringside view :-) I think you're a tiny bit 'bah humbug' - it's 1 night, just enjoy it!

ThalianotFailure Tue 11-Dec-12 11:35:42

I'm surprised there wasn't any consultation (are you absolutely certain there wasn't and you missed it?) and that there are no posters on your road but . . . your DH did see a poster so you do know about it 3 weeks in advance. It won't be that bad, really. The children may well wake up in which case you can take them to the window to watch and then they'll conk out again afterwards (the fireworks will only last about half an hour), and you'll be fine inside even with loads of people going past - if it's on your street you could even take it in turns to pop out with a drink and say hi to people.

Our neighbours about 3 doors down have a huge lights and music bonfire extravaganza every year, deafening music and fireworks in their garden, for about 30 mins at 9pm. DD slept through it for the first 2 years, this year she woke so we watched through the window and she LOVED it (once she'd got used to the bangs) and then went back to sleep fine afterwards. No biggy. One night. With any luck you'll get a lie-in the next morning!

PessaryPam Tue 11-Dec-12 11:41:06

In our village they let fireworks off in the street, (very middle class well behaved fireworks), and we all block the road and celebrate NY together. It's brilliant and very jolly.

Last year I recognised one of the firework-a-teers strapping a rocket launcher to a railing as one of our local surgeons!

PlaySchool Tue 11-Dec-12 11:42:04

I didn't think you could close a road without going through a statutory process. If I were you I would phone the Highways Dept of the local council and ask if there has been a planned road closure.
It seems very odd to have a firework display on a highway!

PessaryPam Tue 11-Dec-12 11:43:01

Ours is a spontaneous event although the local police know it's likely to happen so send a couple of their people down to join in. Never any trouble either.

brainonastick Tue 11-Dec-12 11:47:16

Ours are 5 and 3 as well, and not especially heavy sleepers. But the one thing they do sleep through is fireworks, even when they are next door or opposite. (I wish I could, bah humbug). You might be surprised OP! If they do wake up, then you could just let them watch them, then back to bed. At least its not a school day the next day.

By the way, YANBU to think you should have been consulted or at the very least informed. That's just basic politeness.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 11:50:40

"...strapping a rocket launcher to a railing.."

<<hides eyes and winces>> grin

Dunno about statutory process for shutting road. They do stop traffic for 45 minutes or so on this road for a procession for our Gala every summer, and I imagine there'll be very little traffic at that time anyway.

It wouldn't be able to physically happen here without the road being closed to traffic, as the pavements are very narrow, with no grass verge or anything for anyone to spill on to. It would be literally spilling into the river on one side, and into our front room on the other side.

LtXmasEve Tue 11-Dec-12 12:02:34

I appreciate that you would have liked notice, but I do think YABU, (but only a bit).

Look at it this way:

You have a free fireworks show that you can watch from the warmth and comfort of your own home.

Your children will almost certainly be sound asleep.

If your children do wake up they can watch the free fireworks in the safety and comfort of home - and you may get a lie-in the next morning!

If it is an organised display it will be safer than your neighbours setting off fireworks in their back gardens

You get to celebrate NYE without having to deal with the drunken bums.

It's the perfect opportunity to de sensitise the puppy - let him watch the fireworks and listen to the BANGs from the safety and comfort of your arms - we did this when MuttDog was a pup and she now actually comes to Fireworks displays with us - she is completely bombproof!

Love LtXmasEve - the 'Glass Half Full' individual grin

ClippedPhoenix Tue 11-Dec-12 12:03:08

I do understand about you being cross due to not being informed but that's where it ends.

You and your children should enjoy such a spectacle together, why on earth should they be sleeping.

Fireworks are wonderful, they always bring a tear to my eye.

You have a PRIME spot you lucky thing.

RhubarbCrumbled Tue 11-Dec-12 12:13:05

I don't think YABU at all! If it was going to be just family fireworks early on like on bonfire night then fine, but NYE tends to be drunken and go on very late. If this sort of community event is being held then the residents of the road need to be consulted first. They've basically organised a massive piss up outside your house!

andapartridgeinaRowantree Tue 11-Dec-12 12:13:22

I have a massive firework display literally over the roof of my house every year. Some f the fireworks even fall in our backyard.

I live overlooking a cricket and rugby field and the annual bonfire night display is held in there. We don't even get free tickets and parking is horrendous.

But you know what? It's over in a couple of hours. Next door neighbours have toddlers and they just make an event of it.

And watching them out of our bedroom is very romantic. We tend to have a glass of sparkly.

My advice? Put little ones down for a nap early and get them up and try and enjoy them as a family.

Startail Tue 11-Dec-12 12:16:26

Sounds great, fireworks are one of my favourite things, my DDs have been well trained from before birth not to be scared of them.

That dogs hate them is just another good reason not to have a dog.

DIYapprentice Tue 11-Dec-12 12:27:23

I'm surprised there wasn't a consultation, but even if there had been if that is the best place for this type of event then even with a consultation you wouldn't have had much choice.

Go and get some ear defenders for your DC. Mine love fireworks but loathe the noise and are fine with ear defenders. They even went to sleep with them on when there were fireworks next to our place at bedtime.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 12:29:50

Unfortunately startail, even if I were looking for reasons not to get a dog, I already have one. confused

We3bunniesOfOrientAre Tue 11-Dec-12 12:58:44

I would love the actual fireworks, a chance to have the coolest yet warmest party in town, and my dc (same ages) would either sleep through it - yes they do sleep through fireworks, or get up and watch it. They can lie in the next day, and it's the holidays. We have a similar event in our village, and most of the homeowners on that road have parties for their friends.

HOWEVER I would want assurances that the proper procedures have been followed, road closures, risk assessment, policing, insurance which will cover any damage caused to my property either by the fireworks or any people attending the event, somewhere other than my house available for toilets, and that there will be an efficient road cleaning crew out at 9am on NYD. I realise the last two are maybe cloud cookoo land, but you can at least ask.

ZZZenAgain Tue 11-Dec-12 13:06:12

but why isn't it being held on the big field since it is non residential and offers more space? It isn't practical to hold a fireworks display on a narrow street with narrow pavements leading right on to front doors, as you say there is not a front garden between your house and the pavement. It doesn't strike me as a sensible decision to have moved the venue this year. I am trying to figure out why they might have done this but I really cannot see the reasoning behind it.

Jins Tue 11-Dec-12 13:11:44

I'm with you OP, I'd hate it.

I hate fireworks, can't see why they are necessary on NYE and wouldn't go to see them if they were on. I'd have to remember to get the dogs sedated, find the cats and keep them in and dose myself heavily with vodka.

I assume it will be late as well. At least on 5th November the organised displays are over by 9ish.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo Tue 11-Dec-12 13:11:45

Is there anyone else's house you could stay at that evening, parents' house perhaps? If you don't fancy joining in I think I'd make myself scarce rather than sitting there and stewing.

Fakebook Tue 11-Dec-12 13:15:00

Don't worry OP. I doubt a firework will find its way down your chimney and up your bum. Chill out.

bamboobutton Tue 11-Dec-12 13:16:36

I'm with you op, i would hate it.

I'm a bit meh about NYE and haven't bothered with it since the massively over hyped
millennium NYE.
Having possibly hundreds of people partying right outside my door until gone midnight would give me a Rage that would make the incredible hulk look meek and mild mannered.

degutastic Tue 11-Dec-12 13:21:01

YANBU not to want it. YABU to expect them to change it at this late stage.

People get very precious about their pets, which actually often causes more issues than the fireworks themselves - they sense your stress and feed off that. My pups are always out to see fireworks as close as possible, as soon as there are any to see - and as a result none of them (or any of my other animals) have ever had an issue with them. I also ride my horses with displays going on overhead. If you have a rescue dog, you've lost that opportunity for early positive experiences, though so rehab with fireworks can be more challenging.

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 13:24:38

ZZZenAgain it is our 800th anniversary this year so I think they are trying to do something a bit more special, hence the riverside location for fireworks.

Ghoul no we have no family nearby unfortunately. We may have considered travelling to DH's parents which is 3 hours away and the nearest family, but didn't want to do that this year with the new puppy in tow. He has a tendency to dig holes in the garden that I don't think FIL would appreciate...

Fakebook goodness you are a pleasant individual aren't you?! hmm

Fakebook Tue 11-Dec-12 14:02:40

Sorry for causing offence. Just trying to make you see the error of your ways. grin.

ClippedPhoenix Tue 11-Dec-12 14:17:50

Yes Fake, stop saying the word "Bum" it's offensive grin

andapartridgeinaRowantree Tue 11-Dec-12 14:20:18

Facebook is clearly joking OP. Come on now, lets keep
our sense of humour...

WorraLorraTurkey Tue 11-Dec-12 14:26:01

very middle class well behaved fireworks

<< Spits tea >>

And where can one purchase such things? grin

andapartridgeinaRowantree Tue 11-Dec-12 14:29:52

Ha Worra

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 11-Dec-12 14:58:53

Not remotely offended. Takes more than a couple of posts like that from a random stranger to offend me, I'm just expressing an opinion. Eye rolling, perhaps, but not offended.

As I've said before, more than happy to hear views whether I'm BU or not, and most think I am which is fine. Most people are able to express those views a bit differently, and it's been helpful hearing them actually.

and still have my sense of humour thanks!

PessaryPam Tue 11-Dec-12 22:24:30

WorraLorraTurkey Tue 11-Dec-12 14:26:01
very middle class well behaved fireworks
<< Spits tea >>
And where can one purchase such things? grin

In a middle class shop in the middle of a middle class village!! Actually I think he buys them at some kind of military ordinance outlet at the nearest town, probably official display only certified.

The 1st time I went to the NYE shindig in the local village I was gob-smacked. If anything like it had happened where we lived in Sarf Lundun it would have become a full scale looting riot. But the villagers policed themselves, were happy and good natured and everyone had a great time.

I love our village grin

EasilyBored Tue 11-Dec-12 22:47:06

Well I don't think it sounds that bad, as it's only one night and sounds like quite a lot of fun. But YANBU to be annoyed that you weren't consulted. there should have been some kind of discussion with residents about the plans.

Get yourself some champagne and try and enjoy the night.

MrsKeithRichards Tue 11-Dec-12 22:55:31

Sounds fab, get involved.

VivaLeBeaver Tue 11-Dec-12 23:07:44

Have the community association got permission, consulted the council, taken out insurance and got permission for a road closure? grin

At least it is just a one off. I doubt many people will go either as its late and will be cold.

We have the village Xmas tree lighting ceremony outside our house every year. Hundreds of people, road closed, crowds of people and fireworks. I love it.

HeadfirstForAMistletoeKiss Tue 11-Dec-12 23:18:03

I'm jealous! Want to swap houses for NYE OP? grin

deleted203 Wed 12-Dec-12 03:08:10

I'd be pissed off, surly, but resigned I think, unless I actually managed to bugger off somewhere else for the night, like me ma's. I loathe fireworks, crowds and anything else that disturbs me at home. More so if it disturbs the kids too. My sympathies are with you OP. YANBU to not want a firework display outside your house. What are your chances of stopping over somewhere else?

MidniteScribbler Wed 12-Dec-12 04:34:38

I'm jealous. Our fireworks have been cancelled due to high fire danger and the risk of burning down the national park. I understand why, but I do so love me a bit of NYE sky bling. sad

Kytti Wed 12-Dec-12 04:46:42

Aren't you a misery-guts? We had this every year in our last house, our neighbours put on a display to rival Central London, we thought it was great! Children slept through, or woke up and watched them with us.

Glittertwins Wed 12-Dec-12 06:39:34

I would be taking full advantage of an amazing view point in the warmth and comfort of my house. Our DCs would either sleep through or get up and watch if they woke up as they adore fireworks - they are 4. We also have 2 cats who just sod off to their baskets so we wouldn't be that bothered.

exoticfruits Wed 12-Dec-12 06:46:50

You will get a very good view and stay in the warm! You have got prior warning and so could go away or get someone else to have the puppy.
You could check that it has all been done properly with insurance, risk assessment, permission for road closure etc.

flowerytaleofNewYork Wed 12-Dec-12 12:49:22

Thanks for comments all.

If anyone is interested in an update, DH has spoken to the town council this morning. They were not aware and have had no involvement at all, and in fact the response of the man DH spoke to about it was "Good Lord!" grin

Have also spoken to our immediate neighbour who knew there was a fireworks display but had not realised it would be here, and is now not happy and supportive of us.

After DH's conversation with the obstructive unhelpful person at the Community Association yesterday, mysteriously overnight our notification arrived through our letterbox.. hmmgrin

Apparently the actual fireworks will set up on the riverbank opposite, which is slightly better news. The plan is that everyone will be outside our house watching. The less good news is they are planning to play music from 11.30.

Man at town council said the Community Association will not have been given permission to close the road, which is a concern given the number of people involved and the fact that they won't fit on the pavement. Obviously it won't be busy traffic at that time, but it is a main arterial route through the town so won't be traffic free. Apparently getting permission to close the road is very difficult, and "we couldn't get it for a [minor] royal visit earlier in the year".

Anyway, DH is emailing Community Association man, expressing disappointment that no one on the Association thought it might be sensible to involve residents who may be affected, asking for a copy of their risk assessment, details about road closure, public liability insurance, public entertainment licence, whether drinking will be allowed, policing etc, so we'll see what we get back!

flowerytaleofNewYork Wed 12-Dec-12 12:50:00

Sorry, neighbour is not happy and is supportive!

Fakebook Wed 12-Dec-12 12:53:55

hmm. Well I hope you're proud of yourself now. Pair of busy bodies. hmm.

flowerytaleofNewYork Wed 12-Dec-12 12:55:11

confusedconfused

flowerytaleofNewYork Wed 12-Dec-12 12:57:35

Actually I take back my last post. I genuinely don't understand your last comment but I should know better than to engage with someone who can't be pleasant so I'll leave it there.

Acky123 Wed 12-Dec-12 13:05:48

Sounds like it won't go ahead anyway as they don't have permission to close the road.

They would need permission from the council's safety at public events group or similar - re public liability, safety for the fireworks, road closures, crowd control etc. It's also illegal to set off fireworks in the street, but don't know if they will need permission to do it from the riverbank.

You're certainly not busybodies. These rules are there for a reason and it looks like the community association aren't capable of properly organising a safe event.

MrsMuddyPuddles Wed 12-Dec-12 13:13:13

Surely the right solution would be to swap homes with MidniteScribbler for a couple days and leave them to it grin

valiumredhead Wed 12-Dec-12 15:41:30

Oh well, sounds like you have got what you want.

bamboobutton Wed 12-Dec-12 16:02:26

I'd say that's a good result and not miserygutish at all. MN can be strange on stuff like this

annoying and scaring old people at halloween = bad.

annoying and scaring lots of people/dogs/children with music and fireworks= great, tickettyboo, not a problem!!!!!!!

flowerytaleofNewYork Wed 12-Dec-12 16:05:12

Well I haven't really got anything at the moment, valium.

A bit more information I suppose, which I wanted, having been completely in the dark previously.

Fireworks are a little further away than implied, which is good so I'm a bit happier there. Road not being closed is not good, for safety reasons, so I'm still concerned about that.

But other than that nothing concrete which I'm hoping we'll get from the Community Association in terms of their risk assessment etc, then we'll see where we are.

I think that's a great result. Regardless of whether its a good community event or not, it needs to be done properly if its going to be done at all.

Hope you get some good answers from the Community Association.

squeakytoy Wed 12-Dec-12 20:10:29

"Road not being closed is not good, for safety reasons, so I'm still concerned about that."

Unless you are thinking of wandering around out there, it really wont affect you, and effectively you are doing your best to spoil what a lot of other people may well have been looking forwards to.

I imagine you to be the sort who has a weekly letter in the local paper complaining about something or other..

flowerytaleofNewYork Wed 12-Dec-12 20:35:18

Imagine away squeaky. Anyone who has met me will find that impression hilarious, but knock yourself out.

I do find the attitude that because it won't be me run over by a car I ought not to be bothered about whether anyone else is slightly bizarre though.

deleted203 Wed 12-Dec-12 22:16:01

Do you know, I find the attitude of "people are planning HUGE fireworks and loud music outside your house one night and you ought to be massively grateful" incredible! Am confused by the posters sneering that you are spoiling other people's fun. If the organisers were that keen why didn't they plan it outside their OWN homes? Or on waste ground away from a residential area? Oh...because it wasn't convenient...

Yes, there may well be reasons why such a place wasn't suitable, but I don't think anyone can insist that on organising an event like this and then DEMAND that the people who live right beside it should be happy/grateful/thinking of the joy it will bring to others. If you don't want this type of thing outside your home because your wee ones or your dog will be disrupted then you have every right to feel pissed off without being attacked for it. Why the fuck should you be called a busybody or a spoiltsport for not wanting this?? I wouldn't want it either.

LadyBeagleBaublesandBells Thu 13-Dec-12 00:18:17

It would have been one night, yes One Night.
On Hogmanay.
Probably 1/2 an hour of fireworks for the bells, then everybody would have wandered off.
But yes, good on you OP, you've stopped it. And you'll all get a nice early night.
Are you the Fun Police or something?

ChippingInAWinterWonderland Thu 13-Dec-12 00:49:02

I agree with the people saying you are being a spoil sport. Less and less community activites happen because people don't want it happening 'near their house' and want a gazillion bit of paper to say it's OK...

I'm glad I grew up in the 70's when street parties, street bonfires and neighbourhood New Year celebrations were a good thing. When common sense governed events - not a ton of red paper.

I wouldn't keep kids up for New Year (fireworks or not), especially not at 3 & 5, but I'd love it if they woke up and wanted to watch grin

However, if the logistics are as bad as the picture you have painted - literally being no where to stand other than a narrow pavement, then on that basis YANBU - but for noise/music/fireworks/fun outside your house YABU,

flowerytaleofNewYork Thu 13-Dec-12 08:07:11

What makes you think I've stopped it LadyBeagle? confused

TheMysteryCat Thu 13-Dec-12 08:20:09

I don't think you are being a spoil sport. Firework displays are dangerous and the organisers have done nothing about safety.

They can do two things now: file a temporary event notice with the police and local authority who may also want to see an event safety plan. That is used for events for under 500 people. You won't have a right to complain, as it's down to police decision.

If they apply for a premises licence for an event for over 500 people, then they have to do all of the above and notify residents via notices in the paper and around the proposed site.

They have a problem for this though, as they haven't allowed enough time and residents can complain under licensing regs.

There may be other considerations on a river including wildlife, which they don't seem to have considered either.

It really pisses me off when people don't plan properly as it's unsafe and people attending have no protection

BookFairy Thu 13-Dec-12 09:40:34

YANBU. Surely they can just move it to a field? Fireworks being set off close to houses, members of the public congregating on a through road, loud music drowning out the noise of any approaching cars...

flowerytaleofNewYork Thu 13-Dec-12 10:17:26

D'you know I hadn't even thought about the wildlife MysteryCat. blush we have a family of swans, herons, ducks and other water birds, plus obviously fish and presumably small mammals as well. sad

Maybe they'll have considered that in their risk assessment. <<hopeful>>.

TheMysteryCat Thu 13-Dec-12 13:26:18

And... Do they have permission from the river managers (poss environment agency), or land owners?

PessaryPam Thu 13-Dec-12 17:14:59

So glad I do not live in the same village as the OP!

PessaryPam Thu 13-Dec-12 17:29:09

I hope (gulp) sad

Bilbobagginstummy Thu 13-Dec-12 18:02:53

Yanbu at all - I would be outraged too!

I live overlooking the local "community gathering" space and everyone gathers at midnight outside and the church bells are rung (that was a shock the first year I was here!). There are loads of events on in the year and I do get fed up when the road is blocked with no warning; we get notified of official closures but some events aren't official closures, you just can't move your car for the throng of people.

I am glad you are checking up the safety and licensing side: as someone has already said, the rules are there for a reason and particularly fireworks, drunkenness, cold, dark, river and traffic is a mix that needs careful handling.

If it goes ahead you'll probably have to put up with it and ideally take advantage of the view. But YANBU at all.

PessaryPam Thu 13-Dec-12 20:54:37

Why don't you go back to town Bilbo?

LadyBeagleBaublesandBells Thu 13-Dec-12 21:02:45

grin Pam.

Bilbobagginstummy Fri 14-Dec-12 07:30:26

No idea what your point is, sorry, Pam.

DoesntTurkeyNSproutSoupDragOn Fri 14-Dec-12 07:56:15

Really? I could work out her point.

flowerytaleofNewYork Fri 14-Dec-12 07:58:17

Well we've heard back.

They hadn't bothered to do any kind of risk assessment.

They have now done one.

They haven't got official road closure because its too expensive, instead they plan to put unofficial road closed signs. No idea how legal this is, but from a safety perspective it's probably fine.

They have identified the risk to wildlife and their solution seems to involve swans, ducks etc all staying in one place once the fireworks have been sited. Not sure how cooperative the local bird population is going to be hmm

They are passive aggressively "surprised" (ie offended) that we are questioning their ability to hold a safe and well organised event, despite justifying our concerns by not having done a risk assessment til yesterday.

What's most disappointing is that they have not even acknowledged our main issue being the fact that they didn't consider that it might be considerate not to invite the whole town to a 45 min party with music and fireworks right outside someone's front door without involving them at all. They've just ignored that part of DHs email completely. Definitely no sign of an apology!

Bilbobagginstummy Fri 14-Dec-12 08:09:58

Care to explain, please, Turkey? I'm not actually a huge Hobbit fan in spite of the name so a reference may be over my head.

Bilbobagginstummy Fri 14-Dec-12 08:11:07

Flowerytale - that doesn't sound much more satisfactory! Hope the various authorities will put them on the right track.

bamboobutton Fri 14-Dec-12 08:45:41

Bilbo - i think they are insinuating that you are a city dweller that has moved to the country and are now moaning about country village things like church bells.

flowerytaleofNewYork Fri 14-Dec-12 08:52:16

The thing is, despite what some on this thread may think grin I am in fact a reasonable person.

What they could have said is:

"We realise it we should have informed local residents of our plans before going ahead, and sought their input, and we are sorry about that. We hope this risk assessment allays your concerns, however should you have concerns that have not been addressed, or wish to discuss it further, please do not hesitate to contact us"

If they'd said that, I would still not be overly happy about it, but would have been feeling much more mollified this morning than I am.

flowerytaleofNewYork Fri 14-Dec-12 08:53:01

Sorry, there was an extra 'it' in there.

quoteunquote Fri 14-Dec-12 09:01:03

you could make lots of jacket potatoes or hot dogs and make a fortune, selling them from your front door.

or sell these

flowerytaleofNewYork Fri 14-Dec-12 09:07:35

Loving your entrepreneurial spirit there quoteunquote !

PessaryPam Fri 14-Dec-12 09:14:30

Bamboo - bingo!

StanleyLambchop Fri 14-Dec-12 09:24:21

HOWEVER I would want assurances that the proper procedures have been followed, road closures, risk assessment, policing, insurance which will cover any damage caused to my property either by the fireworks or any people attending the event, somewhere other than my house available for toilets, and that there will be an efficient road cleaning crew out at 9am on NYD. I realise the last two are maybe cloud cookoo land, but you can at least ask.

This. I don't think UABU. Does anyone in the road have any medical conditions? My DD has a condition where she sometimes needs an ambulance , how would the emergancy services get to any of the residents, or the crowd, for that matter? If worrying about that would make me a NIMBY, then so be it.

StanleyLambchop Fri 14-Dec-12 09:28:35

Are you going to have to move your car? I would not like mine to be left on a road used as a party zone. What if you had wanted to go out that night, and had come back to find you could not even drive up your road due to their 'unofficial' road closures that they had not informed the residents of? I think it is actually a very poor show on their behalf and you have every right to be annoyed.

flowerytaleofNewYork Fri 14-Dec-12 09:33:55

Stanley we are lucky in that our house is actually on the corner with another road and we have a little drive accessed that way. Similarly in an emergency we could get out down that other lane as well, but some of our neighbours aren't as fortunate.

MagicHouse Fri 14-Dec-12 09:42:05

Last year the neighbours had a few fireworks which disturbed my two very young children and I remember being a bit bah humbug about it!!!! But, really you expect a bit of noise on NYE.
Having said that, I don't think I'd be happy either with your event, especially like you say it seems to have been organised without much thought and without a risk assessment! But hopefully it will be done and dusted quickly on the night. People won't want to hang about in the freezing cold! And if your two wake up, chances are they'll love having a warm, close up view of it all!

Bilbobagginstummy Fri 14-Dec-12 09:43:48

Bamboo - thanks. I thought it must have been something amusing I was missing as it was followed up by a big grin.

Um, no, Pam. Sorry to disappoint you but your insult/joke/whatever is neither funny nor accurate.

PessaryPam Fri 14-Dec-12 09:46:06

We have become so totally risk averse in the UK. Suggest the OP and other like minded never travel to other countries where fireworks are commonly let off and enjoyed by the inhabitants.

TeamBacon Fri 14-Dec-12 09:57:55

YANBU at all.. I can picture the set up - sounds like the river front near us. Row of houses, narror pavement, road, then river. There's loads of places like that near us.

Where exactly are they going to be setting off the fireworks if the road is full of people? What happens if there is an accident? Don't public fireworks displays have to have first aid and procedure in place should anything happen?

I think I'd be ringing the local fire station and asking them to do a risk assessment. Its probably going to be fine, but my issue with this would be safety.

flowerytaleofNewYork Fri 14-Dec-12 10:01:37

Are fireworks not commonly let off and enjoyed in this country? confused

TeamBacon Fri 14-Dec-12 10:03:55

Ah, that'll teach me to only read half the thread smile

flowerytaleofNewYork Fri 14-Dec-12 10:14:29

TeamBacon my comment was in response to PessaryPam in case that wasn't clear smile

TeamBacon Fri 14-Dec-12 10:49:15

Ah no, I just read your update 2/3 through the thread after I'd posted. grin

MegaClutterSlut Fri 14-Dec-12 10:58:31

A fireworks display wouldn't bother me as long as everyone pissed off back home after but there will probably be a load of drunk people hanging around keeping everyone awake well into the morning so yanbu

fiftyval Fri 14-Dec-12 11:48:14

I can't believe that the local highways department will be at all happy with the road closure plans - have they even been informed? I know different areas have different types of local authority but round here it is the District Council which deals with licensing/ noise etc but the County Council which deals with highways. They are extremely pedantic here about having public liability of £10m for any event on the highway. Any road closure must be authorised and marshalled.Just because there might be a sign up doesn't mean motorists take any notice and they will try to drive through regardless - we had this when the olympic torch came through; luckily each closure was marshalled but we still had motorists trying to drive through the groups of pedestrians.

Lomaamina Fri 14-Dec-12 11:59:32

To OP: I totally sympathise. I would be very unhappy about the lack of consultation. It has nothing to do with NIMBYism, but simply your reasonable desire that a public event takes place in a public domain, not in your front yard (practically).

I hope you have a satisfactory outcome.

TheMysteryCat Fri 14-Dec-12 15:32:38

flowery their road closures are illegal. Only highways can put them out and youngsters have permission to do so. Only the olive can redirect traffic. It would be illegal for them to do so. They must also have permission from them.

I strongly suggest you or someone contacts the local wildlife trust. They have no idea of their are rare animals or plant species for example in that area and don't appear to have a management plan.

TheMysteryCat Fri 14-Dec-12 15:35:16

Should also add that depending on the proximity to the river they also should have informed the environment agency or local water board.

I wouldn't trust them to organise a piss up in a brewery!

TheMysteryCat Fri 14-Dec-12 15:37:33

And a final add (sorry), even if they get a formal road closure, acces for residents must be available at all times.

Horopu Fri 14-Dec-12 19:33:57

Thank you TheMysteryCat for that lovely image of olives directing traffic - aren't they a bit small though? How do the people in the cars see them? I don't think the authorities have really thought it all through.

TheMysteryCat Fri 14-Dec-12 19:35:37

Brilliant! Possibly my best typo...

They are obviously feta stuffed green olives for maximum appeal!

quoteunquote Fri 14-Dec-12 19:48:30

FlowerytailofNewYork, (is that name inspired by the good fairies of NY? flower alphabet)

Just been talking to a friend who has a similar event on her doorstep each year here, and thought of you OP, so asked

they took over £3,500 last year apparently, they split the profits with a local charity,

they sell hot chocolate, food and glow sticks.

so I would start to think about taking advantage of the situation.

flowerytaleofNewYork Fri 14-Dec-12 19:56:30

I don't really know what to do now. sadconfused

I'm annoyed at their attitude
I have genuine concerns about safety etc
I don't really want a drunken party outside my front door
I don't want to spoil everyone's new year
I don't want our name to be mud locally
I don't want to get all heavy handed and grass anyone up

TheMysteryCat Fri 14-Dec-12 20:07:02

Talk to a neighbour? See what they think and maybe go back to the organisers.

You could also print off the local authority's guide to licensed events and give it to them.

They are going to be breaking the law, so you can always say you are trying to help them create a safe event

Bilbobagginstummy Fri 14-Dec-12 20:14:45

Go back to the police/council/various authorities who need to give the okay, and keep expressing your concerns until it's either arranged properly or they say it can't go ahead in that location (but ideally can go ahead in the more suitable place).

Get together with any like-minded neighbours: then you won't in any way feel it's just you.

SugarPasteSnowflake Fri 14-Dec-12 20:31:20

Can't believe the stick open is getting. She hasn't suggested that everyone should just not bother and be tucked up in bed by midnight on NYE! Only that the location isn't suitable.

There's a reason why events like this are usually held in a field or in a green. There's also a reason why events like this should have "a gazillion bits of paper" - ask anyone who lost a friend or relative in the m5 crash last year; I'm sure they wish someone had asked questions about the planning and risk assessment. 7 people dead and 51 injured.

Fireworks can be fun and form a great community evening. But they are dangerous in the hands of people who don't appreciate that you have to plan events like this carefully.

SugarPasteSnowflake Fri 14-Dec-12 20:31:52

Open, should say op!

SugarPasteSnowflake Fri 14-Dec-12 20:38:27

And that's before you think about access - will all these people walk to op's street or will some drive? If the road is closed, where will all these cars be parked? Will the 'unofficial' road closure plan for any emergency vehicles which might need to gain access?

Nimby-ism isn't the reason why community events fall over, it's shit planning. You normally find that people are reluctant because they are worried about the impact an event will have. But something well organised and well planned, with lots of consultation will normally see most people happy to have an event go ahead.

SugarPasteSnowflake Fri 14-Dec-12 20:40:07

So YANBU!!

<dismounts from high horse and exits stage left>

grin

AuntieMaggie Fri 14-Dec-12 20:55:23

What sugarpastesnowflake said - the person who did that display was done for manslaughter wasn't he?

Agree with contacting the environment agency etc about wildlife/river/etc.

flowerytaleofNewYork Fri 14-Dec-12 21:50:09

I'm normally just "flowery" quoteunquote this is my Christmas name, inspired by the musical efforts of Kirsty McColl and the Pogues.

Need to think about the options and thanks for some really helpful information and suggestions. I'm now far more worried about swans and safety issues than I am about noise for us (I'm a big softy for our swans!) and I need to discuss with DH what our options are and how we proceed.

flowerytaleofNewYork Fri 14-Dec-12 21:51:08

Oh, and I think sugarpastesnowflake definitely deserves a round of applause!

grin

TheMysteryCat Fri 14-Dec-12 21:58:36

Flowery,

Btw, they can't host this event legally now because you need 30 days notice minimum for a premises licence and 10 working days for a temporary event notice. They are out of time for both.

PseudoBadger Fri 14-Dec-12 22:00:34

Part of my role (I'm an EHO) involves safety at events for a large inner city borough (clue in my link below). The document linked too has far too much specific detail to my area to be useful, however there is detail about event management plans/risk assessments/licensing etc. I can try and answer any questions you have, however do consider contacting your local EHOs, they should be interested.
ignore if too detailed

PseudoBadger Fri 14-Dec-12 22:01:22

They can do a late TEN with 5 working days to go TheMysteryCat

Eve Fri 14-Dec-12 22:04:39

Reading this and thinking of the people who put on the bonfire last year near the m5, it was a bonfire, how simple could it be, what could go wrong?

KarlosKKrinkelbeim Fri 14-Dec-12 22:10:29

well I don't blame you at all OP - I hate fireworks, my DS has ASD and is terrified of the stupid things. The fact that Bonfire Night now seems to stretch over about 10 days means I spent an awful lot of time this year comforting a shuddering little boy who was terrified either of the bangs or of the possibility that they might start again. Anyone who threateneed a big display outside my house would be given pretty short shrift, I'm afraid.

TheMysteryCat Fri 14-Dec-12 22:21:03

Pseudo,

They could but the police will be pissed off and they have no event plan or land permissions, or road closure agreements. Would be weak application and easy to refuse on grounds of safety and public order. Doubt the organisers will even know or bother.

PseudoBadger Fri 14-Dec-12 22:24:39

Yep, we are a responsible authority for TENs now, and I'd object to this event.

TidyDancer Fri 14-Dec-12 22:39:29

Bloody hell, I can't believe this would ever seem like a good idea!

I'm not really a fan of fireworks anyway tbh, but I would certainly not like something like this literally right on my doorstep!

You've had some very odd replies OP, but YAdefinitelyNBU.

CaroleService Wed 19-Dec-12 11:29:09

Agreed YANBU. I help organise a Fireworks event and we fill up lots of paper - for a good reason.

MrsMuddyPuddles Wed 19-Dec-12 12:03:40

Hope we don't hear about this in the news in a couple weeks time... sounds like lots of dodgy "I wanna do what I wanna do, common sense be damned" attitude from the community group.

BTW- no matter who alerts "the autorities", now that your DH has expressed concerns, you WILL get the blame for "ruining the party with this nimby stuff and elf and safety gone mad and etc"

So you may as well call the EHO, the local wildlife people, the fire dept, etc and see that it's safe or cancelled or moved to a sensible location grin

Bilbobagginstummy Tue 01-Jan-13 09:20:01

So... What happened? Are you all alive? Did you make a killing flogging food?

Nosey person wants to know!

Wishfulmakeupping Tue 01-Jan-13 09:22:02

Yy marking my place too for update

ChaoticforlifenotjustChristmas Tue 01-Jan-13 11:34:39

I'd forgot about this.

<blatant place marking grin>

Fakebook Tue 01-Jan-13 11:35:42

Did you kill the fun then OP? hmm.

AuntieMaggie Tue 01-Jan-13 14:57:37

I want to know what happened to the swans...

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 01-Jan-13 15:13:56

Ooh hello all.

Well, it went ahead.

We ummed and ahhed, but didn't want to get all heavy handed with Environmental health, and other suggestions.

We compromised on a further email to the CA, thanking for their belated and rushed and only conducted because we asked for it risk assessment, highlighting a few additional concerns, expressing disappointment at the lack of consultation and a hope that in future we will have the opportunity to be involved in events planned for our street.

All we got back was a very constructive "noted" hmm

Their attitude throughout has been the main problem, but we didn't want to spoil anyone's fun because of that, so we let it go.

In the end one DS woke but went straight back to sleep, the other stayed asleep. Dog was absolutely fine.

Road is a mess this morning and several cars parked on the road were being leaned on/having drink spilled over them, don't know whose cars they were.

About 300 people came.

Swans were petrified and shot to the other side of the river, but seem unscathed this morning.

Music was loud but finished about 12.20

Fireworks were actually rather lovely. We didn't set up shop and profit from it, but instead had a nice bath and watched in our pyjamas with champagne from the upstairs window.

So all in all a pretty good result. Our name is no doubt mud with the CA but at least I expect they'll consult us in future.

Thanks all for comments, suggestions and opinions, constructive, supportive and dissenting, polite and otherwise!

Happy New Year to you all. smile

HecatePropolos Tue 01-Jan-13 16:14:02

When are they coming to clear up the road? Have they said?

flowerytaleofNewYork Tue 01-Jan-13 16:38:44

Road is now done so someone must have been at some point today, so that's good.

Startail Tue 01-Jan-13 16:40:28

Happy New Year, glad it wasn't to bad.

I was probably uncharitable up thread as I absolutely love fireworks.

However, I do hope someone comes and sweeps up the rubbish for you.

Bilbobagginstummy Tue 01-Jan-13 17:09:32

grin - glad it went ok and no one was hurt!

NUFC69 Tue 01-Jan-13 19:18:59

I only saw this thread earlier and tbh I didn't think you were being unreasonable at all for not wanting this to go ahead. I love fireworks but wouldn't have wanted this outside my front door. I am so glad that it wasn't too stressful for you. It might be an idea to approach the Community Association again with any concerns you have/had so that they can be ironed out before they do this to you again.

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