If I prank call the Australian Radio Station.....

(118 Posts)
Goldmandra Fri 07-Dec-12 20:11:36

....and tell them they're on a charge of corporate manslaughter?

I wonder how funny they would find that angry

BigGiantCowWithAKnockKnockTail Fri 07-Dec-12 20:13:29

It's tragic isn't it? sad Very bloody big of them to delete their twitter accounts.

HassledHasASledge Fri 07-Dec-12 20:18:24

They've deleted their Twitter accounts? So they can deal it out, but they can't fucking take it. Absolute wankers.

mrskeithrichards Fri 07-Dec-12 20:19:33

There'll be a war over this!

Goldmandra Fri 07-Dec-12 20:20:47

I worry about how many other people's lives have been destroyed by these stupid pranks but we haven't heard about it because they didn't commit suicide?

I think they may be looking for new lawyers soon. The call was lawyer checked before it went on the air.

MrsjREwing Fri 07-Dec-12 20:26:59

Let it go, how would you feel if after attacking them, another life was lost?

Sallyingforth Fri 07-Dec-12 20:27:52
Goldmandra Fri 07-Dec-12 20:34:46

I don't think this should be let go until a good many broadcasters make it clear they have reviewed their policies and won't be allowing this sort of prank calling on air to continue.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Fri 07-Dec-12 20:37:20

Pretty fuck

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Fri 07-Dec-12 20:37:54

Ing awful affair through and through sad

Fakebook Fri 07-Dec-12 20:42:40

I don't know why people think making a prank phone call will be funny. Remember what Jonathan Ross and that other hedgehog head (his name has slipped my mind) did. That poor old man could have had a heart attack or something from anxiety. Some people are just thick shits.

Alisvolatpropiis Fri 07-Dec-12 20:46:05

YWNBU.

It's utterly tragic what has happened and demonstrates why "pranks" are not funny. Poor woman. Her poor family sad

Fabuloo Fri 07-Dec-12 20:46:26

Are you serious? Do you really think phoning a hospital and pretending to be the queen means they should have their lives totally destroyed? shock

Or is it that it's because it's the royal family they pranked, and clearly they are so much more special then the rest of us? angry

I imagine there is a lot more to this than being reported.

Goldmandra Fri 07-Dec-12 20:54:48

No. I'm not serious about making a prank call myself. Sorry, I thought that would be obvious blush

I don't think anyone's lives should be destroyed. I wondered how many people's lives have been devastated because they have lost their jobs or the respect of their colleagues as a result of being caught out by idiotic pranks like this. I imagine there are a few out there.

I don't think this sort of prank calling is acceptable regardless of who the target is.

I am sure this poor nurse had other problems to deal with but that doesn't make what they did to her any more acceptable.

CaliforniaSucksSnowballs Fri 07-Dec-12 20:55:23

Really Fabuloo you don't think the life of the nurse (who is now dead)or her small children hasn't been destroyed?

Fakebook Fri 07-Dec-12 20:57:41

Fabuloo, how would you feel if someone pretended to be you and tried to get information about your loved ones in hospital? They've committed identity fraud or something similar. It's illegal to pretend to be someone you're not. Forget the royal family, what they did would have been wrong even if they did it to a nobody. Fucking idiots. Oh and yes, they should have their lives completely destroyed for being so fucking stupid to do something like this.

TheCatInTheHairnet Fri 07-Dec-12 21:01:25

The radio station has ditched their FB page too now. Which is probably a good thing as people were crazily ranting and threatening the DJs on posts about a completely unrelated murdered boy. Social media just gives the world a chance to be part of a braying mob. God, people are strange.

LittlemissChristmas Fri 07-Dec-12 21:05:31

There is more to this than we are being told in papers and on news.
But I still think it was unnecessary and they DJs should resign even if the nurse didn't hang herself.
I feel for Kate, this will be a horrible thing on her conscience that she will feel is her fault even though it isn't.

Fabuloo Fri 07-Dec-12 21:05:42

I think the whole situation is strange and slightly dubious if I'm honest...

Clearly it's horrible that the nurse felt she had to take her own life and obviously devastating for her family, but the hysteria that has followed is equally horrible.

It was a stupid joke with no malice intended I'm sure, but I can't help wondering why the nurse felt that she had no other way out than to take her own life??

AbuseHamzaMousseCake Fri 07-Dec-12 21:06:23

Oh for goodness sake! They made a prsnk call, but nothing about it should have been in any way likely to result in suicide! The info given out was completely innocuous. Nothing confidential and no danger to anyone! This poor woman must have had issues already or been threatened in some way.
Why does everything have to be such a big deal? They are royals not gods!

BattlingFanjos Fri 07-Dec-12 21:06:36

IMO it's got nothing to do with it being the Royal Family, that has just made it a lot more public than it ever would have been. Anybody would be angry if it happened to them/their friend/family. It was a cruel thing to do, I half listened to the call and had to stop because my heart hurt listening to the two nurses, how horrendously embarrassing. Someone on the other thread said poor Kate and was argued with. Damn right poor Kate. This is their first pregnancy, any new mum or dad will know how difficult it is anyway and all the worrying especially with hospital visits, without this. It will overshadow for a while, there are a lot of people affected by this prank. Its very, very sad about the nurse (Jacintha). They had complete disregard for other people, shame on them and yes they should be punished!

Goldmandra Fri 07-Dec-12 21:25:32

I couldn't give a rat's arse about whether this was the royal family or any other family TBH.

This is about people gaining entertainment from wasting people's time and abusing confidentiality.

What if the patient they were 'enquiring' about had just lost her baby? What if they put someone in danger next time? What if they expose information which costs a fortune in damage limitation?

It just isn't funny.

germyrabbit Fri 07-Dec-12 21:27:31

a war with austalia over this would be something

what do they get out of prank calling anyway? it's like something DJs did in 1975

AbuseHamzaMousseCake Fri 07-Dec-12 21:28:02

I am very sorry about the nurse but a prank call that did not divulge any sensitive info should not be blown out of proportion. All that was said was that she was better and going to be freshened up as far as I know. I haven't listened to any more as it is not something I am interested in.
If the powers that be in the hospital made more of it, then the blame is with them. These DJs shouldn't have called but I don't think that people should be baying for their blood like this.
It is horrible for Kate and the poor nurse's family, but it is the media frenzy, not the call itself that is making it worse, in my view. If this prank call had just been broadcast in Australia and not spread to the 4 corners of the world, it would have been a 2 min wonder. The media are feeding off each other and compounding the problem.

Leave it alone and leave her alone!

The Royal Family were not duped. It was the nurses who took the call that were duped.

Goldmandra Fri 07-Dec-12 21:39:15

"a prank call that did not divulge any sensitive info should not be blown out of proportion"

That was more by luck than judgement.

It was an irresponsible action which they took knowing they were risking divulging confidential information.

They also knew that if they succeeded someone would probably be in a lot of trouble. I know she wasn't disciplined but this hospital isn't the first victim of a call like this and it won't be the last.

VicarInaTutuDrankSantasSherry Fri 07-Dec-12 21:39:52

how incredibly sad, that poor nurse.

CaliforniaSucksSnowballs Fri 07-Dec-12 21:42:06

It was a stupid joke with no malice intended I'm sure, but I can't help wondering why the nurse felt that she had no other way out than to take her own life??

Because being the butt of a stupid joke and having the world laughing at you is a lot like being bullied and can be devastating. Who knows, maybe she was fragile to start with, and them not knowing that is reason good for not playing stupid pranks on people you don't know. You never know what will push someone over the edge and now she's dead and her children have no mother.
The radio stations here do these dumb calls, and I have to turn them off it's horrible.

CaliforniaSucksSnowballs Fri 07-Dec-12 21:42:45

*good reason.

saffronwblue Fri 07-Dec-12 21:45:22

Oh no! It is nothing to so with royalty. It is the cruel and idiotic culture of prank calls.

girlylala0807 Fri 07-Dec-12 21:49:39

Did I read another prank on the same station lead to a young girl revealing she had been raped or sexually assaulted live on air? Going to check.

girlylala0807 Fri 07-Dec-12 21:53:30
VicarInaTutuDrankSantasSherry Fri 07-Dec-12 21:57:29

what vile utter bastards. The bbc also mentioned they had bullied the 14 year old into saying she had been raped on air. The djs response to that shows what a vile excuse for a human he is.

Viviennemary Fri 07-Dec-12 21:59:54

I wasn't going to post on this again. What on earth do people want now. The DJ's to do something tragic. It was a silly prank. They cannot be held responsible for this tragedy.

JamieandtheMagiTorch Fri 07-Dec-12 22:00:27

Agree with California

Doinmummy Fri 07-Dec-12 22:02:13

I don't know what the DJ's were trying to achieve by the call. If they thought whoever answered the phone would just hang up on them, then what was the point??

Itsaboatjack Fri 07-Dec-12 22:03:20

This wasn't 'just' a pank call that was aired in their local area and forgotten about, they knew this would make international news. These poor women were made to look like fools all around the world. This was bullying on an epic scale.

And as someone else said hey had previously tricked a 14yr old girl to admit she wa raped live on air. You'd think they would have learnt from that experience that these things have repercussions.

JamieandtheMagiTorch Fri 07-Dec-12 22:03:30

I agree with that as well Doinmummy

The intention behind many practical jokes is never anything very - for want of a better word- kind is it?

Goldmandra Fri 07-Dec-12 22:06:16

What on earth do people want now

Like I said upthread. I would like these broadcasters to review their policies and call a halt to prank calling on air.

Doinmummy Fri 07-Dec-12 22:10:54

It was a cruel thing to do. I view it as similar to making prank calls to the 999 service . Wasting people's time who are looking after sick patients.

I'm trying to put myself in the DJs shoes. If it was suggested to me that I was to make that call I would have questioned it . I wonder who's idea it was , the DJs or the producers?

Zavi Fri 07-Dec-12 22:12:00

What also needs to be considered in this case is how concerned this poor nurse undoubtedly would have been over how her nursing governing body would have dealt with her following this incident.

The nurses governing body - the NMC - regularly strikes nurses off their register, so that they can no longer practice as a nurse, for failures over blood sugar sampling. That is a fact.

It is a body that likes to beat nurses with a stick for the smallest mistake.

Unlike the GMC - the doctors governing body - who back their medics to the hilt when mistakes are made.

The NMC, with their stick-beating approach to nurses, also need to be brought into this equation in my view.

TakingBackMonday Fri 07-Dec-12 22:12:24

I'm sorry to be insensitive but this is tragic all round, for the djs too. What was meant to be a joke has not only ended their careers but they will have this hanging over them for the rest of their lives.

Of course does not compare to Jacintha and her family, but I do feel sorry for them too

Doinmummy Fri 07-Dec-12 22:14:25

They could have refused to make the call

differentnameforthis Fri 07-Dec-12 22:14:54

Those standing up for the DJs/Station etc, bear in mind that not too long ago they also hit headlines after anotehr DJ of theirs practically forced a 14yr to confess she was raped at the age of 12. She was hooked up to a lie detector & her mother was allowed to ask her questions LIVE on air about her drinking/drugs. her motehr didn't know about the rape when she asked her daughter "have you ever had sex"

They are also under licensing conditions for the above, so they obviously haven't learned anything form that!

They should be ashamed.

meditrina Fri 07-Dec-12 22:16:25

The BBC has just reported that the nurse, despite reassurances and no complaint being made, no disciplinary action by the hospital and support from colleagues, was inconsolable over the past days.

It is a very sad and very grubby episode.

TakingBackMonday Fri 07-Dec-12 22:16:50

Did they know the girl had been raped? Surely the girl was a willing participant.

It's tragic all round

MrsBW Fri 07-Dec-12 22:19:31

The call was pre recorded and signed off as being ok for broadcast by producers and lawyers. That should not have happened.

I would say that there absolutely was confidential information divulged in the course of that call. Some of the British press are not broadcasting the full content. They talked about how she was feeling. That to me, is confidential and information that should be known by Catherine (or any other non-Royal patient for those banging on about the ridiculousness of us plebs 'worshipping' the Royals) her doctors, and her family.

That the nurse committed suicide is not the fault of the DJs. But on privacy grounds alone, it should never had been broadcast.

RIP

Doinmummy Fri 07-Dec-12 22:21:39

I've listened to some of the call ( make me feel sick so turned it off) that poor nurse was totally conned. To hear the DJs sniggering and taking the piss was just nasty( especially with the knowledge that we now know what happened to the nurse). Even if she had not died, it still made for uncomfortable listening.

differentnameforthis Fri 07-Dec-12 22:23:50

They cannot be held responsible for this tragedy

Even thought they so clearly are? There would have been no death if they had not made that call. To me, that says they are responsible.

My issue with the prank itself is the following.

The second they got through and got information they knew that they were putting the jobs of the people who had answered at risk.

They said lawyers listened to it before it was aired, they could have stopped at any time.

IMO purely knowing you will affect someones job and still doing it was a really shitty thing without the other stuff.

JamieandtheMagiTorch Fri 07-Dec-12 22:26:45

Agree again Whistling

nancy75 Fri 07-Dec-12 22:27:15

I think some of us need to calm down over this story, the djs making the call were no doubt expecting to be told nothing when they made the call.
They are 2 Australians putting on crap British accents pretending to be the queen, they would have expected to have the phone put down on them and then for the call to be heard by a few thousand people in Sydney.
It is only because the uk news here picked up on the story that any of us even know about it, or do you all regularly listen to Australian radio stations?

It is quite clear that nobody intended for any of this to happen, the story was blown out of proportion from the start ( did any of you see the sack the nurse threads on here? Anyone eating their words now?)
The death of the nurse is tragic, but there could have been lots of reasons for it getting the pitch forks out for the dj's is ridiculous

Viviennemary Fri 07-Dec-12 22:28:58

Yes it's very sad. First pitchforks out for the nurse and now the DJ's.

Doinmummy Fri 07-Dec-12 22:30:27

The DJs have been suspended but what about the producers and lawyers?

differentnameforthis Fri 07-Dec-12 22:30:32

takingback No they didn't & they did stop it there & then. She was as wiling as one can be at 14 who's mother decided it was a good idea to go live on air to "get to the bottom" of her daughter's behaviour. Think Jeremy Kyle. It was her mother who took her there, but it was Kyle Sandilands & co who badgered her into confessing.

Who on earth would agree to interview a 14yr while under a lie detector test, so her mother could ask her personal questions, LIVE on air?

I'm sorry to be insensitive but this is tragic all round, for the djs too. What was meant to be a joke has not only ended their careers but they will have this hanging over them for the rest of their lives ... but I do feel sorry for them too

Really? They caused the death of an innocent woman & you feel sorry for them? Wow!

BattlingFanjos Fri 07-Dec-12 22:32:24

http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/29/kyle-and-jackie-os-live-lie-detector-test-goes-very-wrong/

Absolutely horrendous, what an awful radio piece anyway but the mother is just sick for doing this!

notmyproblem Fri 07-Dec-12 22:34:24

Don't forget to charge all the media outlets in the UK who carried the story nonstop and made sure that receptionist couldn't go 5 min without hearing AGAIN what a complete fuck-up she was being duped by a couple of idiot DJs.

Oh, no, wait that's just news reporting. hmm. The editor over at the DM must have positively creamed his pants when he heard about the suicide, they'll be able to milk this one for months to come.

differentnameforthis Fri 07-Dec-12 22:36:29

I think some of us need to calm down over this story, the djs making the call were no doubt expecting to be told nothing when they made the call

But they WERE told stuff. And they still sent it to air. If they didn't expect to get told that, they could easily have decided not to put it on air after all. But they didn't, because they knew it would go further that Sydney. They intended it to get out as far as possible & knew it would because it concerned the Royal family. They ruined a life & you think people need to calm down? Tell that to the deceased family, why don't you!

QuickLookBusy Fri 07-Dec-12 22:37:05

Exactly doin. Whoever okayed this "prank" should be held to account.

And posters who say things like "lots of TV and radio shows do this kind of thing". They don't phone hospitals, as far as I'm aware, to enquire about someone whose been admitted with complications in early pregnancy.

This wasn't a joke, it was crass, stupid, twattery from the outset.

HouseOfTinsel Fri 07-Dec-12 22:37:30

I think the really sad issue here is that the nurse felt - for whatever reason - that her performance and reputation at work was more important than her own existence. Nobody should ever have to feel that.

differentnameforthis Fri 07-Dec-12 22:38:18

BattlingFanjos

I agree completely with you. But Kyle & co need not have given her that platform. They didn't think of that 14yr old. They just thought ratings.

nancy75 Fri 07-Dec-12 22:41:10

They knew it would go further than Sydney.

Did they? How would they know that? Australians don't give the royal family the column inches they get here, in fact most Australians couldn't give a toss about the British royal family.

JamieandtheMagiTorch Fri 07-Dec-12 22:43:18

That lie-detector thing! FCOL. The world is going to hell in a handbasket.

chicaguapa Fri 07-Dec-12 22:43:38

I'm sure the DJs in question will have this on their conscience for the rest of their lives. But making a prank call and it leading to a nurse committing suicide would have been beyond any consequence they could ever have imagined.

Imo the people who needs to accept a bit of responsibility is the media who made such a bloody song and dance out of it. Up to now we have been led to believe the nurses in question were going to be disciplined, that they should be sacked and the royals were furious. Now it turns out that hospital was supporting the nurses through the media storm and the royal family had not made a complaint and sympathised with the hospital. hmm

What next, trial by media for the DJs until they kill themselves too? Has the media learnt nothing about social responsibility and the damage they can cause with tomorrow's chip paper? angry

MummytoKatie Fri 07-Dec-12 22:43:51

I feel sorry for the DJs as well. I think this type of call is a bit silly and it isn't my type of humour but it was all very unforseeable.

The prank call was ridiculous. They had someone going "woof woof" in the background pretending to be a corgi ffs. That was the level of sophistication of the joke. The point of the joke is that some switch board operator would tell them to piss off whilst sounding nice and British. They would then say "piss orf" to each other in faux-posh accents on air and mutter about the queen being their monarch too. Whilst joking to each other about whose accent was the worst. It would have been vaguely entertaining to all 47 listeners and then forgotten about.

And then suddenly they had the story of a lifetime on their hands. And lawyers telling them it was all fine. And no chance to really think about the repercussions as it all happened so quick. And even if they had would the station have let them not broadcast such a good story.

And now an innocent woman is dead. And they have to live with that forever.

MrsBW Fri 07-Dec-12 22:44:55

nancy75 the British Royal family? It's the Australian's Royal Family too and garners a fair bit of press out there as well.

Lots of contributing factors to this including the British Press IMO.

A tragedy all round.

nancy75 Fri 07-Dec-12 22:49:29

Mrsbw, Australians don't see the royal family as we do here, my Australian husband, his friends and family certainly don't, and yes they make the papers but nothing like the obsession we have here.

BattlingFanjos Fri 07-Dec-12 22:49:39

differentnameforthis I completely agree, I got sidetracked by the mum.

Also think, yes the DJ's probably thought they wouldn't get through. THEY should have hung up as soon as they realised they were. They knew its was a fuck up on that poor nurse's part and didn't give a flying. Plus the producers and whoever elses nod was needed to go ahead. Shame on all of them. The whole thing stinks to me, how anyone can go out of their way to do this in the name of entertainment deserves all the criticism they get. Same as Xfactor, same as JK, it's all sick bear baiting/humiliation, awful stuff.

HouseOfTinsel Fri 07-Dec-12 22:49:45

MummytoKatie - yes agree with that. As prank calls go it was actually designed to fail, yet weirdly it didn't - and that turned out to be the story.

BattlingFanjos Fri 07-Dec-12 22:56:24

Mummytokatie I understand why they did it, and what they wanted to get out of it. But seriously? They could have easily have hung up as soon as they got through, had a laugh about being believed, ridiculed each other's accents and whatever else they fancied doing on some poxy non-show. But they didn't, the point is they made a monumental decision that then caused a series of consequences. The ripple effect. In that position I would have had no qualms about saying "No, I'm not doing that". As I did at 10 when some pillock I went to school with though it was funny to prank call 999. It's a lesson the majority of people learn early

MidniteScribbler Fri 07-Dec-12 22:59:32

INancy, they may not have expected anything to happen when they originally made the call, but the call was pre-recorded, and listened to by the stations lawyers and presumably the management before it went to air. There was plenty of time for management to step in and say "no, this is not right, let's can it." I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the station management (who also allowed the lie detector to occur). They need to be held accountable.

And I'm Australian, so I do listen to australian radio stations, although my preference is for ABC News rather than trash commercial stations.

Aspiemum2 Fri 07-Dec-12 23:10:13

The prank was awful to begin with. A pregnant woman in hospital as the butt of the joke?! It doesn't matter who she is I think you've to be quite twisted to turn that into a source of amusement.

Of course they have blood on their hands, if the nurse genuinely committed suicide over this. Yes she may have been fragile but they didn't consider the repercussions for the hospital staff before or after - they found it all highly funny. They are utterly pathetic.

It's irrelevant whether you are a royalist or not, it's really a horrible story for everyone involved. I feel for the nurses family, she had 2 kids who no longer have a mum. I also feel for Kate, what should be a joyous time has been plagued by severe sickness and now this.

All round the whole thing is grubby and nasty.

nancy75 Fri 07-Dec-12 23:11:00

Midnite, yes they could have binned it, but considering the info the nurses gave out why would they? All they were told was that she was rehydrated and resting, everyone knew why she was in hospital, doctors had been all over our news saying she would be given fluids and getting rest, what they were told was hardly earth shattering.
This only became news here because our media wanted to jump to kates defense against the nasty foreign press who were hounding her. Just the same as the topless photos, when a foreign pap takes a photo of our royals it's an outrage, when a British red top does it, well that's just fine.

MrsBW Fri 07-Dec-12 23:18:20

nancy75 Sorry, going to have to disagree... The nurse also said Kate hadn't been sick while she was on duty.

With all the press speculation about whether she has HG or 'just' morning sickness, that info should absolutely have been kept confidential.

There absolutely was more divulged in that call than was in the public domain already.

I've said it before and I'll as it again. Duchess or no, it should never have been broadcast. Especially since there was an opportunity to review the recording before it went to air.

MidniteScribbler Fri 07-Dec-12 23:25:49

Nancy, it had nothing to do with the information that was divulged. Blind freddy could foresee implications for the two nurses involved. Suicide certainly probably wasn't expected, but surely any lawyer worth their over inflated fee should have predicted reprimands, suspensions or even sacking - very real implications for these womens jobs and livelihood. The fact that not one person stopped to think "hmm, these woman might lose their jobs" is what is so horrible about it. I don't doubt that the DJs probably expected the switchboard to tell them to sod off, and that would be the end. When it got as far as it did, they should have put an end to it and hit the delete button.

Doinmummy Fri 07-Dec-12 23:32:21

I agree Mrsbw

It's just not funny to use an unwell pregnant woman as the butt of a joke.

I wonder if the fact that the poor nurse was from a different culture and just didn't 'get' the humour ,made her unable to see that she was absolutely not to blame.

Doinmummy Fri 07-Dec-12 23:34:45

I use the term ' humour' very loosely

LadyBeagleBaublesandBells Fri 07-Dec-12 23:47:23

The name of the nurse, Jacintha Saldanha, may be a clue to her putting the call through, as English may not have been her first language.
I may be totally wrong here, and apologise if I am, but it was one of the thoughts that occurred to me when I heard the news.

Doinmummy Fri 07-Dec-12 23:51:10

Yes she may not have been able to distinguish the dodgy English accents and so was mortified that she'd been conned.

Morloth Sat 08-Dec-12 00:01:10

That poor woman.

So sad, she did nothing to deserve any of this, she was going about her job on the other side of the world and some complete bastards thought it would be funny to hassle her.

God, so sad - imagine how she must have felt to think this was the best option? Just imagine for a moment.

This makes me so angry.

2Day FM needs to take some responsibility for this, they really do, between this and fucking Sandilands and all the rest of the puerile vomit they spew, something needs to be done about it.

I think if I was part of the palace machine I would be suggesting that they step in here and try to assist this woman's family as kindly as possible. Not their fault, but given the power and wealth they possess there must be something they could do to help them out. I would.

OnwardBound Sat 08-Dec-12 00:09:49

Oh really enough now.

I think everyone is agreed that this is a terrible tragedy.

But this mass hysteria and competitive grieving is not helping anyone.

Nor is baying for the blood of two young and foolish DJs.

Morloth Sat 08-Dec-12 00:13:32

I don't know about blood but 2Day FM have form for this.

I want whoever came up with this idea, whoever OKd it and whoever carried it out either fired or at the very least disciplined. Actions have consequences.

Prank calls suck, this is a high profile one, but I have heard others before that when it is quite clear the person on the phone is getting distressed and they just don't care.

2Day FM used to be a lot of fun, now it has just gotten mean.

Sandilands asked a 14 year old girl if being raped was her only sexual experience and you know what happened to him and his vapid co-host? Nothing absolutely nothing. Enough is enough.

LadyBeagleBaublesandBells Sat 08-Dec-12 00:20:42

Are you Australian, Morloth?
Because it's interesting to hear your point of view.
For me, it's just nasty invasive journalism and it would be wrong whoever it was directed at, royal or not.

OnwardBound Sat 08-Dec-12 00:31:46

Okay, I agree that this 2Day FM sounds dire and their style of shock jocking [or plain old stupidity] needs to be called into account.

But in my humble opinion this prank call where two DJs pretend to be the Queen and Prince Charles [with shocking attempt at English accents] was puerile, childish and mischievious NOT malicious or calculated to cause great distress.

It was ill advised, particularly in the context of this tragedy.

But calling them complete bastards or worse is more than a bit OTT.

Someone further up thread said something about it being a pity that they were not strung up.

Now I know that this was not the intent of the poster but really how would they feel if one of the DJs did actually hang themselves over this, or was strung up by a vigilante.

So really, I think we should all just get a grip and stop the frothing.

Otherwise this just becomes trial by social media and haven't we all had enough of this by now?

Morloth Sat 08-Dec-12 00:36:34

Yes Lady I am Australian and in Sydney.

No, I think I will stick with complete bastards thank you OnwardBound, they didn't need to do this. They thought it would be funny, it wasn't and it has had a huge flow on result.

They didn't need to do this, at the very least they knew they were wasting someone's time by calling up and asking about a sick woman. There was no need for any of this to have ever happened.

Young DJs my arse, they know who they work for.

vivizone Sat 08-Dec-12 00:39:26

This has really affected me. I don't know why I feel so sorrowful. I cry thinking about the pain and fear she must have been feeling. I just feel so bad for her and her children.

I keep thinking about her. It's most odd as I haven't even really followed the prank story. I just know that 2 children are today motherless because their mother was scared/alone/ in total torment. I find that hard to live with.

McChristmasPants2012 Sat 08-Dec-12 01:12:51

It is down to the nurse, I am sorry that she felt she has to take her own life over this, but never should she have given sensitive information.

She wasn't the nurse who gave the information out Christmaspants, she simply pocked up switchboard as it was night and reception not there and transferee it to the other nurse.

PerryCombover Sat 08-Dec-12 01:52:05

This is nonsense. This lady must have had many issues that culminated in her suicide. It was no ones fault.

LDNmummy Sat 08-Dec-12 02:09:29

Did anyone else read about the 14 year old girl who was raped who was unceremoniously outed about it live on air by the same radio station?

I heard the recording and almost burst into tears.

I am not a fan of the royals in any way but I feel bad for Kate. Her first pregnancy will always have this stigma attached to it. It seems she is getting her first taste of the downsides of being a royal.

saffronwblue Sat 08-Dec-12 02:11:11

I just sent an email of compaint to the parent company of the radio station. austereo. Said I would make a point of avoiding the products of their advertisers in future.

differentnameforthis Sat 08-Dec-12 04:15:41

nancy75 I am well aware they don't media coverage here, and that is mostly due to, like you say, the Australians not caring about them. But at the same time, a lot of Australians want out from the under the Monarchy, so hold them somewhat in contempt. So they would have loved this & it would have spread like wildfire.

Add to that, why do this to the most well known family in the world and not expect it to leave Australia. You would have to be naive to believe they never intended it to leave our shores.

differentnameforthis Sat 08-Dec-12 04:23:23

www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/coles-pulls-ads-from-2dayfm-after-nurse-subjected-to-prank-royal-call-found-dead-in-london/story-e6frf96f-1226532724014

I should think so too. For those who don't know, comparisons of the company's who have pulled advertising

Coles - Tesco
Telstra - BT
Optus - any major mobile carrier

HouseOfTinsel Sat 08-Dec-12 07:29:18

It does seem unprofessional of the hospital to expect their nurses to act as switchboard operators, especially when they presumably have a lot of high profile patients and media enquiries coming through. Even during the night, you would have thought that they could have employed someone specially to deal with it. Very unfair to ask the nurses to add to their duties by dealing with outside calls from the general public.

cuillereasoupe Sat 08-Dec-12 08:29:03

I wonder whether the poor nurse was doorstepped by the likes of the DM.

I'm not condoning the prank call at all.

However I think the hysteria surrounding the reporting of it has been far more damaging and probably much more of a contributory factor.

A prank call is a bit embarrassing but being the top headline in every bulletin and on every front page, with papers calling it a matter of grave national security is utterly humiliating.

And yet the papers are STILL splashing it all over the front pages and whipping it up into a media story. They have absolutely no sense of irony or self-awareness whatsoever. confused

I actually think there should be a ban on reporting DoC's pregnancy, and she should be allowed to continue privately and stress free. Very much like Prince William at university.

For my sake as much as hers wink

Morloth Sat 08-Dec-12 08:40:08

I want out from under the Monarchy.

I don't find it funny for ridiculous calls to be made to hospitals in the middle of the night asking for details of a sick woman.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

differentnameforthis Sat 08-Dec-12 12:13:45

Morloth I didn't mean all Australians thought it was funny. I think I said most, perhaps that was wrong. I am aware that not all would find this funny.

Didn't want to offend anyone.

Viviennemary Sat 08-Dec-12 12:56:45

It was a prank phone call. Jeremy Beadle had a show for years along similar lines. The fact that this nurse has died is extremely tragic. But all this corporate manslaughter, blood on their hands is just totally out of order and ridiculous. The media in this country milked it day after day after day. Playing the recording printing the conversation and I wouldn't be in the least surprised if the nurse herself was hassled by media.

VicarInaTutuDrankSantasSherry Sat 08-Dec-12 13:00:46

there is an art to prank calling, and a very fine line between a funny prank call and a tasteless, twattish prank call.

this was the latter.

LadyBeagleBaublesandBells Sat 08-Dec-12 13:05:18

As far as I remember Jeremy Beadle's 'victims' had the choice whether their humiliation was broadcast or not.
Jacintha was not given the choice, her and the other nurse (and I wonder how she is feeling now) weren't.
I'm still a bit doubtful about the hospital's spokesman expressing their sorrow, actually.
I bet they gave her hell and put her in fear of her job.

Loveweekends10 Sat 08-Dec-12 13:07:09

I do think that Aussies have poked fun of the royals for quite some time. This is all part of a wider cultural anti royalist feeling in Australia.

It sounds as though the nurse had other issues but the bottom line is they took advantage of a sick person just to get a laugh.

But hey they say they haven't broken the law and the presenters are shattered! Oh poor dears. What about that nurses children. How shattered are they?

Thumbwitch Sat 08-Dec-12 13:11:32

The news I've seen here suggests that many people are as shocked by the outcome and unhappy with the prank call as the British; and actually the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are relatively big news here, the speculation in the glossies about her being pregnant has been going on for months (very boringly) and my MIL, when we heard she was pregnant, said "oh God, we'll be hearing about that endlessly now until she has it, and then about the baby".

Not all Aussies want out from under the Monarchy and the Royal Wedding and the visit by Kate and Prince William have probably increased their popularity here.

thebody Sat 08-Dec-12 13:14:12

I think it's so sad for everyone. Lets not turn this into a witch hunt now. Enough lives shattered already

Enough now.

Viviennemary Sat 08-Dec-12 13:33:23

I agree that J Beadle's victims were given the choice about publicity but they didn't know at the time about the prank. It isn't quite the same I admit. And I also agree that nobody's knows for sure if the nurse was reprimanded or taken of that job or any other sanctions. The media created the global storm not the DJ's. I am not a royalist and deplore this hysteria surrounding all things royal.

Doinmummy Sat 08-Dec-12 14:52:38

I wonder if initially the nurse was reprimanded and only later the hospital decided to ' support' her. I can imagine if it happened where I work, the initial reaction would have been' You did what????You stupid idiot . There will be serious consequences ' etc etc'

Doin I agree

As I posted elsewhere

My mum is a nurse who has dealt with a similar situation with the press and an incident.

She is pretty damn sure the hospital would not have given their backing no matter what they say. It was an embarrassment to the hospital and they would have wanted a scape goat for that embarrassment.

She also said the nursing council hang you out to bloody dry, she would have been terrified that she would not only lose her job but be struck off.

HouseOfTinsel Sat 08-Dec-12 16:03:41

I still don't understand why it should be a nurse's job to act as a 'security guard' on a hospital switchboard. She should not have been put in that position, surely?

DayShiftDoris Sat 08-Dec-12 17:14:53

Whistlingwaves

Totally agree with yr mum and it was first thing I said...

I think it should provoke a debate about how nurses & midwives are REALLY supported in their roles, especially when an incident occurs.

janelikesjam Sat 08-Dec-12 17:26:43

Idiots for sure. But who are the idiots who are listening to this stuff on the radio in the first place?

Goldmandra Sat 08-Dec-12 22:14:41

Idiots for sure. But who are the idiots who are listening to this stuff on the radio in the first place?

The same people who read the tabloids then criticise journalists when they hound celebrities/royals.

It is sad to note that AFAIK no broadcasters have made a statement saying they won't indulge in this ridiculous prank calling in the future. It is clearly too popular.

OhDearNigel Sat 08-Dec-12 22:23:19

but I can't help wondering why the nurse felt that she had no other way out than to take her own life??

This is only a theory and I may be barking completely up the wrong tree but the nurse was Indian and I wonder if she felt she had brought irrevocable shame on her family ?

OhDearNigel Sat 08-Dec-12 22:24:46

and also agree with those that are saying she was probably expecting to be hung out to dry. that's how public bodies work - foist the blame on the workers and absolve yourself of blame

Goldmandra Sat 08-Dec-12 22:38:19

but I can't help wondering why the nurse felt that she had no other way out than to take her own life??

Anyone who makes or enables prank calls like this knows they are risking causing distress and disruption in the lives of those they catch out. It was inevitable that one day they would do it to someone with terrible consequences. They only had to pick on someone vulnerable. They knew the risks they were taking and it was worth it to them to keep their ratings up.

hiddenhome Sat 08-Dec-12 22:45:21

I was thinking that OhDearNigel. People seem to be assuming that this woman was depressed or mentally ill or something hmm Perhaps she just got a huge shock and couldn't think of how to deal with it any other way sad

I saw her family on the tv news tonight and they looked shattered and broken. My heart went out to them. I have worked with quite a few Indian nurses and they are always very professional and come across as thoroughly decent people.

hiddenhome Sat 08-Dec-12 22:48:59

All nurses live in fear of the NMC and ending up in front of them one day. In general, the public don't know about this and what goes through a nurse's mind when she/he screws up. It's not only your job you lose, it can be your entire career. If this woman was facing this, in another country, with possibly no support........no wonder she felt so distraught.

Labelling her as 'depressed' or 'having issues' or being 'mentally ill' is just a cop out angry

Thumbwitch Sat 08-Dec-12 22:53:53

It's not that she was supposed to play security as such, but she didn't follow basic security principles, which she should have done for any patient.

I hate prank calls - I think they are appalling and don't see the humour in the public humiliation of someone - I feel so sorry for that nurse, because I also believe she would have been disciplined for her actions and possibly lost her job and any hope of getting another one. I feel desperately sad for her family too, that she perhaps couldn't see any other way out of the mess but this would have hounded her for some time to come. sad

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