To think the woman who gave Prince William a babygrow...

(69 Posts)
SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 18:44:06

Is a bit of a nutter if she thinks he will actually keep it and use it? hmm

RedHelenB Wed 28-Nov-12 18:45:04

Won't he be a bit big for it!!??

VivaLeBeaver Wed 28-Nov-12 18:45:41

I think he might do because of the co-pilot message on it. If it had just been a more standard one then I think you'd have a point. But it's unusual and relevant to him.

VivaLeBeaver Wed 28-Nov-12 18:45:56


stormforce10 Wed 28-Nov-12 18:47:06

Why wouldn't he? If / when they have children they'll find even Royal babies are sick,drooly and pooey at inconvenient moments. They may find themselves grateful for that baby gro

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 18:47:24

I didn't see the message! Curious now!

McChristmasPants2012 Wed 28-Nov-12 18:47:29

Is Kate pregnant

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 18:47:58

Storm I'm sure they wont be short of baby gifts and clothes!

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 18:48:42

McChristmas I don't think so, woman on the telly said that because he said he would use it maybe he would take the hint and do it soon... Or something like that.

VivaLeBeaver Wed 28-Nov-12 18:49:27

The message on it said "daddy's little co-pilot"

Pagwatch Wed 28-Nov-12 18:49:32

I am probably being a total arse but I thought it was really awful.
Whatif they are having problems conceiving ?
I was also really superstitious. I would of course be polite but being given a baby gift would bother me unless I actually, you know, had a baby.

I fully accept thati am a bit of a nutter about this.

McChristmasPants2012 Wed 28-Nov-12 18:50:08

What a weird thing to give then lol

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 18:50:46

That's actually a really sweet message on it.

Pag I completely agree with you, I thought it a bit odd and rude to give a baby gift to someone who had no children and wasn't expecting.

I just wanted to give her baby a hat! grin

WinklyVersusTheZombies Wed 28-Nov-12 18:52:07

I agree with pag

It's hard enough to be a normal married couple with no children and putting up with the whispers and stares and questions and comments and head tilts. What if they are having trouble?

JustFabulous Wed 28-Nov-12 18:52:20

Apparently he said he was having it and gave it to his aide.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 18:53:47

That would actually be a right kick in the teeth if they were having problems, wouldn't it? sad

JustFab I keep catching the same bit in the news everytime and haven't heard these bits.

soverylucky Wed 28-Nov-12 18:59:11

What a stupid and unfunny thing to do. They might be having trouble conceiving, she may have had a miscarriage or they might not want children. The upset this "gift" could potentially cause is not worth any little laugh she may have got or her face on the telly.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 19:00:14

She looked too wrapped up in excitement to be thinking about that.

FrillyMilly Wed 28-Nov-12 19:02:09

Soverylucky do they really have a choice about whether or not they want children?

I'm with Pag - I don't like baby gifts before birth let alone before conceiving. There's something about it that puts real pressure on the couple. If someone gave me a babygro I'd be really put out.

CarlingBlackMabel Wed 28-Nov-12 19:05:57

Pag is right, and this sort of behaviour is EXACTLY the kind of thing that would cause a mass outbreak of foaming at the mouth if a MIL did it to one of us.

Beyond presumptious and irritatating, and not funny.

TwitchyTail Wed 28-Nov-12 19:09:34

What an utterly insensitive thing to do.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 19:10:41

Apart from all the possibilities, imagine how embarassing that would be! shock

Icelollycraving Wed 28-Nov-12 19:13:30

Wonder if Kate would join mn (looks over shoulder)

Icelollycraving Wed 28-Nov-12 19:16:02

I'd like to imagine her starting a mil thread.

PerryCombover Wed 28-Nov-12 19:18:03

I think that unless they are preggo it's a nutso pressie to give to them

Wouldn't give him a bra, now would she?

ChessieFL Wed 28-Nov-12 19:18:26

Well that won't happen will it icelolly?

Icelollycraving Wed 28-Nov-12 19:25:15

Oh come on,can you not see her on Aibu? Aibu to wish my inlaws didn't have a key to our palacehome grin

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 19:29:47

Perry I think he's unlikely to ever need a bra though. grin

I'd love it if she joined MN. I bet the babygrow loon is a MNetter.

Totally agree with Pagwatch (and several others). I had a rant at DH when I saw the news item, 'what if they are trying and its not happening, how insensitive' etc etc. I was actually going to start my very first MN thread on exactly that point.

Frankelstein Wed 28-Nov-12 19:59:33

Agree with Pag et al. If anyone gave a gift like that to me or DH, I'd probably spend the night sobbing in bed (TTC for 2.5 years) sad

CrazyChristmasLady Wed 28-Nov-12 20:03:37

So what would actually happen if they couldn't conceive?

Harry would be next in line.

WinklyVersusTheZombies Wed 28-Nov-12 20:11:07

He would be traditional and lop her head off and marry someone else smile

Frankelstein Wed 28-Nov-12 20:14:19

Current line of succession:

Prince Charles
Prince William
Prince Harry
Prince Andrew
Princess Beatrice
Princess Eugenie
Prince Edward
James (Viscount Severn)
Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor
Princess Anne
Peter Phillips
Savannah Phillips
Isla Phillips
Zara Tindall

091972 Wed 28-Nov-12 20:17:22

Have not seen this news story but think it's absolutely ridiculous/ insensitive/ thoughtless to give baby gift before someone has even conceived! So YANBU -she's a nutter!

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 20:18:02

Winkly You are assuming it would be because she couldn't concieve.

Who the hell is Zara Tindall?

Frankelstein Wed 28-Nov-12 20:18:27

Zara Phillips grin

Chubfuddler Wed 28-Nov-12 20:20:51

Princess Anne's daughter.

What a bloody crass thing to do.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 20:22:09

Ah right okay. Thanks. smile

WinklyVersusTheZombies Wed 28-Nov-12 20:25:55

schro that was a joke - do you think Henry the Eighth would have been up for sperm analysis? If we still had a lopping heads off Royal Family, they would assume it was her. Couldn't possibly be a problem with the royal swimmers could there.

I thought that it was a sweet thing to make BUT a totally inappropriate gift for couple not publicly pregnant - if pregnant at all. Poor Kate. Just really hoping that she didn't miscarry yesterday or similar. Anything could have happened or be happening - just like anybody else - which is why you don't do this kind of thing.

ImperialStateKnickers Wed 28-Nov-12 20:26:18

I think it's been said several times already but I wouldn't dream of giving a baby present to anyone who wasn't quite definitely expecting a baby. In fact I'm old-fashioned and don't usually present a gift until the baby's actually arrived safe and well. My view is coloured by a friend suffering a still birth at eight months though.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 20:30:31

I know it was a joke, I forgot the winky face.

Imperia sad Completely understandable on those reasons that you wouldn't want to give a gift to someone who hadn't actually had a baby. I would think that is would also be pretty simple logic. Obviously babygrow woman hadn't thought of that though, which is surprising as she was wearing a practically newborn waiting in the cold without a hat angry.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 20:30:49

Imperial *

BupcakesAndCunting Wed 28-Nov-12 20:36:46

I agree with Pagz.

It's awful and pushy and CREEPY AS FUCK.

Why would you do this?! Why?!

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 20:39:49

I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt a bit and assuming post baby sleeplessness is the reason behind her reasoning skills obviously not working right.

bondigidum Wed 28-Nov-12 20:45:52

I actually feel sorry for them. For all the years they were together everyone was all 'when will they get married?' and then as soon as they did everyone moved onto 'right.. babies!' Leave them be ffs, they might not even-shock horror!- want kids, or even be having trouble trying so the babygrow could actually have been a kick in the teeth.

Frankelstein Wed 28-Nov-12 21:20:52

My personal opinion is that they waited until they felt ready for children before getting married. They are not stupid and will have known that once they were married the "baby?" questions would start. I just hope, for their sake, that they are not having problems TTC as I know just how heartbreaking that is.

tetleymel Wed 28-Nov-12 21:24:02

Everyone asks what if they have problems conceiving etc. Perhaps they don't want to have any children!

Frankelstein Wed 28-Nov-12 21:30:03

They've said openly in interviews that they want children. If they didn't want them they would have dodged the questions - a la Charles and his "whatever love is" comment grin

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Wed 28-Nov-12 21:30:34

I'm not even sure a Royal (especially one so close to being the next heir to the throne) could decide they didn't want children. I mean they could, I have no idea what the implications of that would be though.

MissSlapAndTipple Wed 28-Nov-12 21:32:49

They do seem to have a huge amount of pressure and I'm guessing like Frankel they probably waited to get married until they could cope with the 'baby next' bombardment, lets face it, royals don't tend to breed out of wedlock. Even still there's huge pressure. Haven't most royal babies been born within a year a marriage - apart from Edward and Sophie. I seem to remember that they might have had fertility treatment. But, they are a young modern couple who may not want children for another 5/6 years, if at all. Nothing wrong with having kids later in life, or not at all.

AFAIK anyway, royal gifts get kept for a year in a big room then auctioned discreetly for charity after the year? They will however consume food gifts.....or so I was led to believe. I didn't believe it, I bet it gets fed to the corgi's. In fact, they may cut the sleeves off the babygrow and put it on a corgi. How funny would that be. smile

LynetteScavo Wed 28-Nov-12 21:42:24

Personally I think it's shockingly bad form, and very presumptuous.

A young couple my not want to have children or may not be able to have children.

I really hope in this day and age Catherine wasn't vetted to see if she were willing/able to have DC. (But I bet she was).

The thought of Harry's offspring taking the throne amuses me.

I wouldn't be surprised if William had sarcastically muttered "no pressure" between gritted teeth as he received it.

LadyIsabellaWrotham Wed 28-Nov-12 22:06:58

I wish them all the best. Poor Princess Masako of Japan suffered appallingly when it took her "too long" to conceive.

muffinino82 Wed 28-Nov-12 22:33:08

I haven't seen the footage but I do think it's a bit of a silly thing to do, as we have no idea whether or not they are trying or having problems if they are. If she was pregnant, then it could be a sweet gesture.

I do think that they will try, as it would be unusual for the second in line not to. I would think discussions re does she want kids would have taken place before marriage as, frankly, for the wife of the heirs, it's their job to have children, whether we like the idea or not (I am anti royalist so hope they all die out eventually).

On a different note, I'm surprised Zara has change her name. I was shocked to read that she is formally known as Mrs. Michael Tindall shock I'm guessing if she did hold a royal title, Princess whatever, she wouldn't be known as that but as she holds no title, she's known by her husband's name despite him being a commoner? What would happen if she wanted to use the title Ms?
What a load of shite, though, to be known by your husband's name not your own. I'm also surprised that she was referred to as Zara Phillips at the Olympics as they were very big on formality. Tina Cook, or example, is usually called that but they insisted on using her full name, Kristina, for the Olympics.
Did she change her name or not? I wonder if she didn't but court formality calls for her to be known in an old fashioned way? Thinking out loud, now.

Frankelstein Wed 28-Nov-12 22:37:46

I think Zara has changed her name for day to day use, but continues to compete as "Zara Phillips" as that is her "brand" as it were.

lovebunny Wed 28-Nov-12 22:57:45

george dawes. prince william.

threesocksmorgan Wed 28-Nov-12 22:58:19

oh yanbu
she was an attentions seeking twat.

muffinino82 Sat 01-Dec-12 20:23:31

Oh ok, that's interesting, I wasn't sure if the Olympic committee would accept anything other than an official name - hearing 'Georgina' instead of 'Piggy' French would have been very weird grin

DyeInTheEar Sat 01-Dec-12 21:05:23

YANBU -it's exactly what I said to DH when we watched the news. They could be TTC and feeling the pressure. Or they could not be TTC and feeling the pressure.

IMO it was a creepy and seedy thing to do and she was embarrassingly over excited and breathy about the whole encounter as she jigged her poor baby up and down at alarming rate.

WelshMaenad Sat 01-Dec-12 21:17:08

I would be very very surprised if, as future Crown Princess, Kate had not undergone fertility testing before they got married.

Im fairly sure Diana was screened. Cant remember where i heard that though.

SlightlySuperiorPeasant Sat 01-Dec-12 21:24:43

YANBU, I agree with Pagwatch et al, how crass.

LetsFaceThePresentsTheyrePants Sat 01-Dec-12 21:25:00

YADNBU it was crass.

I also feel a bit sorry for her having to work out a way to get on MN without anyone twigging grin

LetsFaceThePresentsTheyrePants Sat 01-Dec-12 21:30:11

Especially the MIL threads

judefawley Sat 01-Dec-12 21:33:15

I just assumed she was a nutter.

PassTheMincePies Sat 01-Dec-12 21:47:02

What Pagwatch said. Never thought of it that way, but what if they were having trouble conceiving?! OK, we have no clue if they are and for all we know, aren't, and just don't want them yet and want to wait a few years.
We just don't know. I have a friend who is finding it extremely difficult to fall pregnant, and has been trying for a few years now with her husband, and it just hasn't happened, even though they desperately want it to. sad
If she'd been handed a babygro? She'd feel extremely upset.
So in Kate's position, to summarise, none of us have a bleedin' clue what her circumstances are as none of us actually KNOW her.
She might not want babies yet, she might want them desperately but can't, or be pregnant now but is refusing to tell anyone too early as there's too many nosy so and so's around
None of our business. It's a personal issue. Not one that we should feel comfortable handing out babygro's to sad

Cortana Sat 01-Dec-12 23:17:21


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