to have got angry at her? hair dye kid ?

(719 Posts)
TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:09:56

this woman in the cresh said it can be bad for toddles if you put dye in there hair but on tyson its only a little bit of semi permenant on the tips of his hair its got no bad chemicals in its 1 that dont contain them !! my child my rules i was like well im sure your not perfect yourself no way and she was like im just saying i said WELL DONT JUST SAY cuz i dont want to hear your shit !! and then i said about how i like her childs coat and it looks like tysons and she couldnt take the complament i can tell

gordyslovesheep Fri 23-Nov-12 22:10:36

yeh ...that's real - 1/10

EndoplasmicReticulum Fri 23-Nov-12 22:11:08

What's the question? You've lost me.

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:11:20

1 out of 10 for me or other woman ??

OpheliaPayneAgain Fri 23-Nov-12 22:11:22

Why did you dye your dog?

My first ever biscuit.

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:12:00

oops sorry the questions in the title no not my dog my son x

picnicbasketcase Fri 23-Nov-12 22:12:04

Did the wine go all up the wall again?

Sirzy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:12:54

Depends what colour you did it surely?

JollyJock Fri 23-Nov-12 22:13:29


TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:13:39

by the way it wasnt proper hair dye with chemicals its just a bit of semi permenant it cant harm

OpheliaPayneAgain Fri 23-Nov-12 22:14:24

Why did you give your child a dogs name?

What colour did you dye it? does he match the dog?

usualsuspect3 Fri 23-Nov-12 22:15:13

WTF is wrong with MN?


TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:15:23

how is tyson a dogs name ?? and red

usualsuspect3 Fri 23-Nov-12 22:15:42

Someone make it stop.

Grrrrrrr know what u mean, hun.
Can't say to much on hear but know what u mean.
Rise above it.
Hear for u if u want 2 talk.

MrsLHofstadter Fri 23-Nov-12 22:16:04

hmm confused wine

JollyJock Fri 23-Nov-12 22:16:13

Ohhh, I thought the other woman had dyed her child's hair. It makes a little more sense now.

OpheliaPayneAgain Fri 23-Nov-12 22:16:39

Is tyson a red setter?

peanutMD Fri 23-Nov-12 22:17:12

Hair dye kid?

Is that like the milkybar kid of the naughties?

werewolvesdidit Fri 23-Nov-12 22:17:13

Is this your first post op confused?

Fearisforsuckers Fri 23-Nov-12 22:17:15

Yay my first ever biscuit

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:18:11

thanks hun really annoyed x
yer i dyed my childs hair like in the 1st post by the way my child is tyson ok just incase your still confused :L


Shakey1500 Fri 23-Nov-12 22:18:24

You have been totally irresponsible. I mean, surely everyone knows that red hair dye fades the quickest? What will his mates think. Use ash blonde next time.

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:19:21

ophella what gives you the right to say that ? how would you feel if someone trashtalked your childs name ?

JollyJock Fri 23-Nov-12 22:20:11

There are huns too? Argh!

gordyslovesheep Fri 23-Nov-12 22:20:35 - get him to sort it out

OpheliaPayneAgain Fri 23-Nov-12 22:20:39

I thought toddles was your kid?

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:21:05

shakey because of his shade of hair i wouldnt be able to dye it ash blonde id have to use bleach he has dark blonde to light brown hair and i dont use chemicals hense the annoyance

Sirzy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:21:14

Surely if its a boy you should be dying his hair blue? When red fades it might look pink shock

Piezilla Fri 23-Nov-12 22:21:27

u no ur bubs hun.

hugz xx

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:21:38

my son is tyson what do you mean toddles ?

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:23:02

gordy tehehe and piezilla thanks x

peanutMD Fri 23-Nov-12 22:23:05

Don't be daft ash blond is just as bad!!

Just use smart price bleach in the bath to wash his hair, the colour keeps much longer and is like soo cheap to maintain innit?!

EndoplasmicReticulum Fri 23-Nov-12 22:23:08

How old is Tyson? What colour is his hair? And I still don't get it about the coat.

TacticalWheelbarrow Fri 23-Nov-12 22:23:17

Tysonsmum grin love it!

just remember whats important n the strength of you're sole. some ppl make it soo difficult tho!!
Hugz hun,xxx

OpheliaPayneAgain Fri 23-Nov-12 22:23:53

From your OP

this woman in the cresh said it can be bad for toddles if you put dye in there hair

toddles wont like it sad

BillComptonstrousers Fri 23-Nov-12 22:24:51

Trashtalked? <hello? Hello? Is that the Jeremy Kyle hotline?>

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:25:29

peanut i would never harm his skin like that and endo he is 3 and the main is a dark blonde to very light brown and the tips are dyed red well more than the tips but basically the tips if that makes sence ? the coat dont worry i just said to the woman that i like her kids coat and she couldnt take the complament she was pissed off

TacticalWheelbarrow Fri 23-Nov-12 22:25:42

I cnt bleave the cheek ov dat woman Hun! Hu doz she fink she iz? Hugz to u nd ur lil man Tyson xx

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:26:34

oops it was ment to say toddlers

Shakey1500 Fri 23-Nov-12 22:26:49

True Peanut....I'd be tempted to peroxide it first. I mean there's so few chemicals in semi permanent, what's a few more? make sure the water's scalding hot to rinse it off though hmm

starfishmummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:27:24

Is English not your first language?

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:27:40

juno thanks yer i know at least i was the bigger person and stuck up for me and lil man x

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:28:48

tactica thanks yer i know she should look at herself first tehehe x

ouryve Fri 23-Nov-12 22:28:51

That's nice dear. Crisp?

peanutMD Fri 23-Nov-12 22:28:52

Dnt get uppy hun was just a sujeschun to save you some wonga!

I do it all the time with my lil man nd he has a luvly pink glow to his skin nuffink wrong in my opinyin.

Sheesh sum ppl!!

MrsWolowitz Fri 23-Nov-12 22:29:06

<does T-Rex>

<swats at deap wasp on window-sill>

MrsWolowitz Fri 23-Nov-12 22:30:27

Deap = dead.

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:30:59

yes i am english starfishesmummy

ouryve Fri 23-Nov-12 22:31:19

And nope. No chemicals in semi-permanent dye. Apart from dihydrogen monoxide. Have you heard what that stuff can do?

gordyslovesheep Fri 23-Nov-12 22:31:48

<pats wide screen goat and opens popcorn>

RobinSparkles Fri 23-Nov-12 22:31:52


Good one OP.

Humph. I wanted to be the first to t-Rex it up.

amarylisnightandday Fri 23-Nov-12 22:32:35

cries with mirth

peanutMD Fri 23-Nov-12 22:33:09

Wolowitz I love that you felt the need to correct your mistake on this thread grin

Although admittedly it actually pained me to post my last comment...

JollyJock Fri 23-Nov-12 22:33:12

Why t-rex?

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:33:22

ouryve no thats only in the proper 1s with developer i did 3 years hairdressing and colouring was my best side so i know about it ..

TacticalWheelbarrow Fri 23-Nov-12 22:33:26

Itz a nitemare when I take ma daughter to da salon for full head highlites nd I get dirty looks.

JollyJock Fri 23-Nov-12 22:34:12

Please use full stops. Please.

becsparkel Fri 23-Nov-12 22:35:32

Ah man, this fred haz cheed me rite up!

ouryve Fri 23-Nov-12 22:36:22

Are you sure? Dihydrogen monoxide (H2O for geeky types) has been in the news a lot this past day or so. It's caused so much damage.

WinkyWankyWonkySantasSack Fri 23-Nov-12 22:36:57

This has to be a joke, innit?

OpheliaPayneAgain Fri 23-Nov-12 22:37:06

if thats your best side, whats your worst?

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 23-Nov-12 22:38:48

You're sole? Are you saying the OP's fishy, Juno?

Bobyan Fri 23-Nov-12 22:38:54

Fruitshoot and a Greggs sausage roll anyone?

MrsWolowitz Fri 23-Nov-12 22:39:17

grin peanut.

What does Sharon make of all this?

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:39:30

yes ouryve i dont put the proper stuff on his head ..

missymoomoomee Fri 23-Nov-12 22:39:55

Awww babe ((HUGZ)) u do wot u fink iz rite yeah your bubz your rulez <headtilt> you ok hun

Bobyan Fri 23-Nov-12 22:39:59

And did she get the wine stain out?

peanutMD Fri 23-Nov-12 22:40:56

So you just put the pretend stuff on his has?

Maryz Fri 23-Nov-12 22:41:12

<waves to Sharon>

ouryve Fri 23-Nov-12 22:42:16



TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:42:39

i put the stuff with no chemicals on his head ..

peanutMD Fri 23-Nov-12 22:42:40

*head not has grin

What I reeeeeeeaaaaaaalllllyyyy want to know though, is Sharon still banging her across the roads man??

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 23-Nov-12 22:42:46

<waves to Maryz>

EndoplasmicReticulum Fri 23-Nov-12 22:43:50

Hairdye with no chemicals in it? Really?

Wud u say the dye woz wine colured hun?

My eyes are burning. Burning I tell you!

Must be all that dihydrogen monoxide...

naturalbaby Fri 23-Nov-12 22:45:50

This is like reverse dyslexia.

<still chuckling at Jeremy Kyle hotline>

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:46:37

it was red murderofgoths and endplasmic yer its not the kind you get in boots its different ..

Shees babz, U don't have to anser 2 anyone hun.
Gotta go bubz needz me and SOMEONE is 2 busy. (u kno who I mean, can't say 2 much hear)
u ok hun? xxxxx

FunnysInLaJardin Fri 23-Nov-12 22:48:46

well well well

peanutMD Fri 23-Nov-12 22:49:08

Was it the kind from poundland?

ouryve Fri 23-Nov-12 22:49:22

That's a relief, because dihydrogen monoxide is nasty stuff and is present in most hair dyes.

Yer, lyk red wine rite?

Red dye on blondy hair will fade to pink....

Then he'll get The Gay

That'll learn ya grin

Give the smug mum something to hoik her judgey pants about.
Does Tyson have anything pierced?

JollyJock Fri 23-Nov-12 22:50:57

Murder of Goths would acutally be a great name for a hair dye.

Some great advice here hun.

Hun, dis is well bad. Has u calld da polis yet? U need to! Da slag bitched ya toddles hair off.

Ignor dat bitch, she's just well jel!

TuftyFinch Fri 23-Nov-12 22:51:59

What do you think about Elvis?

WildWorld2004 Fri 23-Nov-12 22:52:50

Peanut she is banging him and his brother. And maybe the postmans sons cousins friends brother too.

apostropheuse Fri 23-Nov-12 22:53:34

Yur bubba yur rools hun. Mumz knows best. Rite?

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:53:47

just 1 ear 70isa
ouryve yer it was not 1 of them i did hairdressing for 3 years so i think i know lol ..
peanut it was from the salon supplys shop by me
juno thanks x yer im ok was just so annoyed x yer i know what you mean !!

SuffolkNWhat Fri 23-Nov-12 22:54:16

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TuftyFinch Fri 23-Nov-12 22:54:32

In 2018 it will be a criminal act to dye or aid in dying) the hair of a minor. It will be punishable offence involving a prison sentence. S0, you got until he's 9.

GrumpyCynicalBastard Fri 23-Nov-12 22:55:06

Unsure whether to laugh or cry here. Perhaps I'll just piss myself a bit and toddles off to bed!

Wot dye is it? My 9 mumf old needs his hair died naw and I wanna gud 1.

Fuck, how do people type like this as normal? It's so hard!

TysonsMum do you live in Essex per chance ?

Bet you do

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:55:50

tufty i dont agree with that its no more harm than face paints the 1 i use its got no chemicals its no more harm than food colouring ..

peanutMD Fri 23-Nov-12 22:56:02

But how did she know it wasn't a hairspray thingy?

BattlingFanjos Fri 23-Nov-12 22:57:10

Erm.....just....ermmmmm.....nope, I got nothing....

* walks out muttering about poor toodles and shaking head *

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:57:38

yer peanut prob cuz she seen it other days but its no more harm than the sprays its got no chemicals

I bet she licked it Peanut, that's just what they do wink

EndoplasmicReticulum Fri 23-Nov-12 22:58:06

Chemical-free food colouring? Do you have that too?

peanutMD Fri 23-Nov-12 22:58:17

Is anyone else thinking of Mickey Mouse??

"ooooooohhhhhh Toodles!"


EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 23-Nov-12 22:59:29

I'm sort of intrigued now.

TysonsMummy is new tonight (welcome to MN TysonsMummy, I bet he looks lovely) but Juno, who seems to know her, has been around for a while and normally posts in standard English. What's going on?

TuftyFinch Fri 23-Nov-12 22:59:29

I know Tyson but it's all down to those people in the big house by the river. Myabe Dave will veet o it but I don't think so.

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:59:51

endoplasmic i said its no more harm than that if you feed your kid cake sometimes then a bit of hair colour if its not the harming kind is no worse

psychomum5 Fri 23-Nov-12 22:59:56

are you some type of idiot??

do you not have any clue about the etiquette of toddles groups??

If you dye your sons hair, everyone is going to know you are a fabulous hair dresser and going to want you to do their childs hair. For free.

Next time take enough to do all the other childrens hair. That way you have no reason to be told off. Nor any reason to come here and post.

and Tyson can have hair dye party with all his little friends.


redlac Fri 23-Nov-12 23:00:39

Aw hen that's pure pish patter by the way ken. I would make me pure dead mental like if any wan said that aboot ma wean like ken

The mistake is in the title. "to have got angry at her" should have been "to of got angry at her"

This is a regular. <gavel>

Anyone got wine? I've ran out sad

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:01:03

empress thanks yer im new i wont say what 1 but my old forum banned me for basicly nothing

Mmmmm chemically cake..

EndoplasmicReticulum Fri 23-Nov-12 23:01:24

Do you realise that the chemical free hair dye could earn you a million pounds?

NotaDisneyMum Fri 23-Nov-12 23:02:16

ouryve - crying with laughter at ur your posts and the OPs replies!

I dye my hair and now I'm sitting here worried my cheeks will be permanently scarred by dihydrogen-monoxide contamination in my tears! wink

<geeky chemist-type>

Piezilla Fri 23-Nov-12 23:02:21

U sure it got no chemicals hun im worrid bout dat dihydromonoxo stuff on ur lil mans preshus hed

hugz xx

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 23-Nov-12 23:02:43

You're welcome. Did your old forum begin with an N?

usualsuspect3 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:03:43

Bloody hell.

MN is nuts

<runs screaming from MN>

3b1g Fri 23-Nov-12 23:03:47

As my eight year old DD pointed out yesterday, everything is made of chemicals. Even us. Of course, then ten year old DS2 started listing things that aren't...

FanjoForTheMammaries Fri 23-Nov-12 23:03:57

I really believe this!

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:04:21

its ok it really is no more harm then just some face paint or something if that makes sence and its technicaly not a dye its more like a stain if that is making any sence to any one

U sure it got no chemicals hun im worrid bout dat dihydromonoxo stuff on ur lil mans preshus hed <dies>

Tiredmumno1 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:06:03

Slow down usual, I can't keep up grin

psychomum5 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:06:09

I have wine grin

<pours out plenty>

but not for tysonsmummy as she doesn;t like chemicals, and wine contains a lot.

TuftyFinch Fri 23-Nov-12 23:06:47

Perfect sense.

Yer hun, stain makes sense. Red is a gud stain color, even luks gud on walls.

psychomum5 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:07:12

and no, it is failing to make any sence to me.

However, I can make complete sense of those requesting wine grin

Flojo1979 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:07:15


usual! is there a drunk thread or am I too late? I don't have any wine <sulks> I have some carling zest though....

usualsuspect3 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:08:02

Tufty, make it stop.

<sits next to psyhco and starts drinking the wine>

usualsuspect3 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:08:39

There is a drunk thread, but it all went a bit weird on there MrsRB

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:09:43

yer it beggined with n

3b1g Fri 23-Nov-12 23:10:19

In case anyone is interested: energy, a vacuum, incredulity and satire.

amarylisnightandday Fri 23-Nov-12 23:10:31

Fayce paint just washes off lyke

NotaDisneyMum Fri 23-Nov-12 23:10:36

it all went a bit weird on there compared to here which is the epitome of MN normality wink

Weird good or weird bad?

This could be true you know, my cousin dyed all her kids hair an orangey colour (tbh I think she was going for red but failed, maybe she didn't use enough chemicals) when her youngest was about 18mo.. It happens, just usually not on MN! grin

RobinSparkles Fri 23-Nov-12 23:11:51

Makes sence to me smile

But I can't make sense of it wink

Can u give me ne tips on how 2 dye toddles hair? My lickle princess wud luk totes amaze wiv pink hi lites!

grin Nota

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:12:17

amary yer it does but so can hair ;D

FunnysInLaJardin Fri 23-Nov-12 23:12:44

I bet all of you £1m that this thread will be gorne come the am. I betcha

usualsuspect3 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:12:58

MN is just weird, full stop ATM.

I would love to dye dd1's hair bright red, she would look amazing. <goes and sits with the commoners>

I won't though.

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:13:40

robin you just need a tube of pink from a salon supplys shop its a fiver and you only use a lil bit

quoteunquote Fri 23-Nov-12 23:13:47

what did Wendy say?

psychomum5 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:13:50 sitting on the settee, over there ---->>

shall we just drink wine and try to work out exactly what they are all saying??

<head exploding from all the weird text speak and huns>

Suzieismyname Fri 23-Nov-12 23:14:11

3b1g... what does your DS1 know then??

What the fuck is yer???

Do ya fink my ickle bubz wud suit red hair? Is 8 months 2 young?

Tiredmumno1 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:17:14

<joins others on the settee>

I'll have to pass on the wine (unfortunately)

My head is also about to explode.

<settles down on the settee over there ---->> > good idea psycho, i'll come and try to translate

Who else needs translation? Subtitles maybe?

Ooh can we get subtitles?

Prforone Fri 23-Nov-12 23:17:40

I'm just marking my place. This thread has me in stitches!

JamieandtheMagicTorch Fri 23-Nov-12 23:18:31

heir die

Yer is clearly yeah, glaikit. God! Don't you know anyfing?

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:19:00

murderofgoths its fine if it dont touch the scalp

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Fri 23-Nov-12 23:19:00

I would like bleach for my eyes subtitles please!

<drinks wine and pretends like she doesn't understand txt spk>

redlac Fri 23-Nov-12 23:20:46

Glakit yer is the English version of aye

Fanks hun xxxx Hope my ickle man will lyk it!

EdgarAllanPond Fri 23-Nov-12 23:21:48


StrawWars Fri 23-Nov-12 23:21:57

What does Sharon think?

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Fri 23-Nov-12 23:22:32

OK, there are plenty of other refugees here from the same place. Things are a bit different over here though. When you have a spare few hours, have a browse through the Classics section, it will give a you a pretty good snapshot of who we are and how we work.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Fri 23-Nov-12 23:23:25

Can't help but ask this...

Why on earth would you want to dye your toddlers hair? Parents are meant to think their kids are perfect the way they are, how could you possibly think that giving a 3 year old <faints> red tips would make him look better!?

I take it you have him booked in for a tattoo and a piercing when he turns 4?

psychomum5 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:24:32

pondering forgoing the subtitles and just getting drunk.

far more fun grin

WinkyWankyWonkySantasSack Fri 23-Nov-12 23:24:35

YY to subtitles, the terrible spelling and grammar is making my eyes hurt.

That is txt speak gone wrong, that!

Hey hun wot do ya fink about dis for ur bubz?

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:26:33

schrosaw its just a bit of fun he is perfect in all ways !! he wanted it and he likes it and it doesnt harm so its ok he loves it !! he has got 1 peircing in his ear but whats the diffrence between a girl having her ears and my lil man having his ear as long as hes happy and loves it !! its not all about looks ! he was perfect with out the dye and still perfect now !!

ouryve Fri 23-Nov-12 23:27:00

There's only few drops of aqueous ethanol solution left in this bottle. It's bloody tasty and I'm not sharing!

3b1g Fri 23-Nov-12 23:27:38

I dye my hair with daydreams and blinkered optimism. Both chemical-free. DS1 is nearly 13 so the answer to 'what does DS1 know?' is 'a lot less than he thinks he does'.

ouryve Fri 23-Nov-12 23:27:42

OTOH, it might be a bit strong O_o

BattlingFanjos Fri 23-Nov-12 23:28:21

* walks back in whistling*

I heard wine grin

cannot stop chuckling. This has made my night!

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Fri 23-Nov-12 23:28:31


TuftyFinch Fri 23-Nov-12 23:28:44

I can't make it stop*Usual*. It's like a packet of Pringles. Red felt tip works well. Not a Sharpie though. I won't make that mistake again.

Have some wine fanjos, it's not mine, it's psychos but sharing is caring and all that...

Arthurfowlersallotment Fri 23-Nov-12 23:33:23

@@@@@@@@@@************@@@@@@@@@@@@**********@@@@@@@@ THREE HOURS, TEN MINUTES since ARTHUR had a wee*****(()*&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&^^^^^^^^^~~~~~##############

Tiredmumno1 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:33:39

Sod it, I am going to bed.

TuftyFinch Fri 23-Nov-12 23:33:47

Why does my cat ask to go in the garden, go out, come in and then do a big smelly poo in his litter tray? I might buy a bamboo plant and let it grow 18 ft tall. It makes the sound of the sea. Apparently. The cat and the bamboo aren't connencted. Well, only as much as a Mars bar is connected to Donny Osmond.

psychomum5 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:33:47

oh share away.

I am hoping all the wine helps me work out quite what they are on about.

I did get the sharpies tho. I also will ever try sharpies for colour options either. Total shit!!

Casmama Fri 23-Nov-12 23:34:48

For future wind ups reference- people who use the word hence tend to know how to spell it!

Oh the drunk thread is humungous! it will take me all night to catch up and then by the time I do they will all be passing out in a drunken state and I will kill the thread <sulks>

See my post at 23:00 Casmama that everyone ignored


FrenchRuby Fri 23-Nov-12 23:38:24

Cannot stop laughing at this thread..... it's not serious right?

WinkyWankyWonkySantasSack Fri 23-Nov-12 23:38:50

I think I just killed the drunk thread [shy]

WinkyWankyWonkySantasSack Fri 23-Nov-12 23:39:23

Oh blush FFS!

Jury's out * ruby*

Aww, u cn b shy if u wnt too winky

OxfordBags Fri 23-Nov-12 23:41:04

<sobs "But everything has chemicals in it!" and bangs head against table corner until sweet oblivion takes me>

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:41:26

ok not being funny but i dont see why your got the right to say that frenchruby since i asked for what people think i didnt have to ask but i did

CouthyMowEatingBraiiiiinz Fri 23-Nov-12 23:41:58

This thread is making my eyes and brain hurt. Has everyone list the ability to type in English rather than teen-speak?

psychomum5 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:41:59

am leaving you lovely folks with the wine. Am feeling a wee bit sick and the thought of Tyson with red tips is tipping me over the edge.

3b1g Fri 23-Nov-12 23:45:21

If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run...

CouthyMowEatingBraiiiiinz Fri 23-Nov-12 23:46:53

Why would anyone pierce their toddler's ears, boy or girl, or put chemicals on their hair?

Either this thread is a wind-up that has whistled over my head, or I will need to open my eyes to the fact that some people think nothing of dyeing a toddler's hair.

This can't be serious, surely?!

CouthyMowEatingBraiiiiinz Fri 23-Nov-12 23:48:01

Obviously by my typo in my first post, this thread has made everybody lose their grip on the English language. Including me. hmm

Couthy, seriously, my cousin did it to her kids, youngest being 18 months at the time.

I pierce my dd's ears as babies but that's a different thread isn't it

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:49:58

couthymow like i said there are no chemicals in it !!!!! and he didnt even cry when he got the ears peirced but if he was older he would probaly cry .. most people get there girls ears peirced at younger than 3 so whats the problem ? he loves his hair so much its just a bit of fun for lil man and his mummy

Couthy I think of your "either or" options, both are correct.

TuftyFinch Fri 23-Nov-12 23:53:10

... yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
and, which is more,you'll be a Man, my son!

Teabagtights Fri 23-Nov-12 23:55:38

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TuftyFinch Fri 23-Nov-12 23:57:22

Do you like me more than you don't like me or do you not like me more than you do?

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:57:23

teabag he loves it and he wants it it doesnt harm him !! whats the problem and he wanted it !!!! you should grow up im a good mum

3b1g Fri 23-Nov-12 23:57:40

<passes wine to Tufty>
<confused by the rest of it>

TysonsMummy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:58:23

ok teabag so do you think its wrong to put face paints on a toddler ?? its the same thing basicly

psychomum5 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:59:28

am coming back as I actually feel more sick trying to sleep and not being distracted.

what hair dye was it that has no chemicals?? I really really want to know as I dye mine red (all the way to the roots tho....I have to cover my grey wink), and my box I bought for my touch up has LOTS of chemicals. I would love to try a chemical free one.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Fri 23-Nov-12 23:59:59

Of course he likes it, he's 3 and his hair is red. Why not let him be a child for a bit longer!?

And I think I know 1 person who has pierced their childs ear before the age of 3...

usualsuspect3 Sat 24-Nov-12 00:00:21

I like you tufty.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:03:02

pyscho the kind i use will only work if your hair is light and it washes it really fast
schrosaw he is a kid just cuz i put some colour on his hair its the same as face paint its not like i put fake tan on him its just a bit of fun !! it doesnt harm so whats the problem ?? and most 3 year olds i see have got ears peirced ..

TuftyFinch Sat 24-Nov-12 00:03:25

Now you're being Irish.

I think she meant out of the people who pierce their dc ears, most do it before 3. <helpful> <drinks more wine>

Grey is light is it not?

naturalbaby Sat 24-Nov-12 00:04:21

oh teabagtights don't lower the tone!

is tuftyfrench on the right thread?!

TuftyFinch Sat 24-Nov-12 00:04:26

Shit, that's a quote Usual. It wasn't me being a wrong un. A Taste of Honey. Brilliant.

psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 00:04:36

well the grey bits are light....

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 00:04:40

How long does the hair dye last? If it's more than one wash then it's not the same as face paint.

Fucking hell, fake tan? <dies a bit>

JojoLapin Sat 24-Nov-12 00:04:40

No chemicals in semi-permanent hair colourant... Sure! How do you get the colour to stay on the shaft of the hair then? ALL hair colour manufacturers insist the products should not be used on children. For good reasons too.

Tyson, if this is not a wind up you are a true idiot. If it is not, it isn't much fun to mock those who think it is a bit of fun to colour toddlers hair and pierce their ears.

Casmama Sat 24-Nov-12 00:04:53

Sorry mrs RB all I thought when I read your post was I've run out not ran out.

usualsuspect3 Sat 24-Nov-12 00:05:27

I love that film, Tufty

Cross posted with op. she clearly doesn't mean what I said blush <sits quietly>

seeker Sat 24-Nov-12 00:05:42

See, I sort of get sense of humour failure at spoof threads like this. It makes me feel uneasy when people take the piss out of groups of people they feel superior to.

TuftyFinch Sat 24-Nov-12 00:06:04

No, I'm never on the right thread. There never is a right thread.
I'm going to change my name to TuftyFrench though. I like it.

blush Cas

usualsuspect3 Sat 24-Nov-12 00:08:02

I do too, Seeker.

These threads are not funny, they piss me right off.

TuftyFinch Sat 24-Nov-12 00:08:03

Usual, I told someone the other how how graet it wa and explained the story and they were <oddfacefrownfishface> about it. It's a graet winter film, with wine (tea), chocolates and a fire.
And Whistle Down the Windofcourse,

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:08:06

i have done nothing wrong i did 3 years of hairdressing so i know what im talking about and its technicly a stain not a dye .. dont call me an idiot cuz i would never put dye from boots on his hair and schromo just cuz it lasts more than 1 wash it doesnt mean its bad .. if it doesnt harm him then thats what matters !!

Well, I could have been running somewhere, I mean, you never know do you. grin

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TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:09:25

and i dont know where you live but if you was in the real world you would see most 3 year old girls got there ears peirced

I think some parts are funny. If it was a serious subject then it wouldn't be funny but this is just hair dye.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:11:24

sirboob its not got chemicals it its not proper dye like for adults .. i did hairdressing 3 years i do know about it so dont act like you know it all !! and its not about looks its about fun .. he wanted it i didnt just throw it on his head

TuftyFinch Sat 24-Nov-12 00:11:46

Shelagh Delaney could have written a great play about it though.

Casmama Sat 24-Nov-12 00:11:47

Now I feel all snide- sorry Mrs RB. That was uncalled for blush

usualsuspect3 Sat 24-Nov-12 00:11:51

I love 60s films. The family way is one of my favorite films ever.

naturalbaby Sat 24-Nov-12 00:12:38

I know lots of 3yr old girls and none of them have pierced ears. What world am I in then? confused

It's ok Cas, I used my sense of humour grin my grammar is not the best but I don't mind.

SirBoobAlot Sat 24-Nov-12 00:13:11

Ah yes, because obviously a three year old knows all about the pros and cons of dying their hair... hmm

That's where being a parent comes in love. My son said yesterday he wished his hair was pink, and this morning that he wished he had wings. Strangely enough, neither of those things will be happening.

usualsuspect3 Sat 24-Nov-12 00:13:15

Sorry, I've got my PO on tonight.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:13:26

naturalbaby i dont know mabey its diffrent where you are

amistillsexy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:13:46

This thread should be in Classics.


naturalbaby Sat 24-Nov-12 00:14:19

mabey, where are you?

SirBoobAlot Sat 24-Nov-12 00:14:32

Naturalbaby, sadly lots of three year olds do have their ears pierced sad

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:14:56

sirboob whats wrong with it ? its no chemicals i done hairdressing for 3 YEARS i do know about this !! and theres nothing wrong with changing your look for a bit of fun some times

BonzoDooDah Sat 24-Nov-12 00:15:06

Aw Hun I dyed my hare 2nite and gotit on da wall! Shuda used red wine az iz eezier to clean off innit!

AND less chemiculs!

psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 00:15:08

my daughter has done a two year hair dressing course.

she has not a CLUE about a hair dye, or colour, or stain, that doesn;t have chemicals.

they all do.

everything you use on your skin, or hair, or even put into your body, has chemicals.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:15:46

tbh i dont see why you can basicly call me a bad mum to my lil man

naturalbaby Sat 24-Nov-12 00:15:52

I know lots of 3yr olds have pierced ears - I was one of them.
There just aren't many round my neck of the woods.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:16:24

no pyscho have you heard the word natural or not ?

SirBoobAlot Sat 24-Nov-12 00:16:56

There is a lot wrong with changing the way a three year old looks for "a bit of fun". A lot.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:17:37

sirboob so you think face paints and costumes are wrong then yer ???

Well tbf, I don't think it makes you a bad mum.

TuftyFinch Sat 24-Nov-12 00:18:35

I do agree with Usual and Seeker that if this is a piss take it's not really funny. Or ironic.

If it's real. It's real.

SirBoobAlot Sat 24-Nov-12 00:20:23

hmm They are entirely different.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 00:20:26

I can't actually remember the last time I seen a 3yo (or younger) with pierced ears...

I do live in the "real world" btw. Whatever the hell that means. hmm

JojoLapin Sat 24-Nov-12 00:20:27

No Tyson, most 3 yrs old I know do not have pierced ears. Most don't and I don't know a single toddler boy with an earring or coloured hair. You are trying to justify that colouring your little boy's hair is ok and "a bit of fun". Fine. I, on the other hand, think it is neither clever nor responsible but plain stupid.

naturalbaby Sat 24-Nov-12 00:20:28

My 3yr old changes the way he looks every day, for fun. He has tried face paint, different hair styles, temp tattoos, dressing up outfits..

.I've got no idea what is in Tyson's hair dye but is it really that bad when their are mothers out there who adorn their babies heads with flowery headbands and twirly clips?

I don't think it would seem different to a 3yo boy though would it SirBoob?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:22:36

jojo if it doesnt harm him then whats the problem ? jojo most the toddlers i see have got earings

psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 00:22:47

yes, I have heard of natural, but it is still, in essence, a chemical that can cause harm

henna is natural, but its usage on children is greatly frowned upon as it can, in some cases, cause a reaction similar to a burn.

and natural hair dyes are also, in fact, more unpredictable than the 'chemical' hair dyes, as they do not come under the same stringent testing procedures, and so any fool can sell a 'natural' dye and cause real problems!!

How many people spray or dye their kids hair green for Halloween for example?

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 00:23:37

I want to hear more from Junowiththegladrags on the subject. She's got a reasonable posting history (in proper English, not NMese) and seems to know the OP in RL - in which case, if the OP is genuine, Juno was being pretty unfair to let her post on here without a warning. She must have known what kind of reception she'd get.

If this is a windup, on the other hand, Juno's got to be involved somewhere.

seeker Sat 24-Nov-12 00:23:48

And we all feel really good about ourselves taking the piss out of the working class stereotype, yes? Just delightful. Whoever is the poster behind tysonsmummy- I do hope you feel proud of your work.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:24:12

pyscho like i said its more of a stain then a dye it wash out in like a few washes i did hairdressing for 3 years

psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 00:26:36

so what?? I have been mothering for 18plus years now, it does not make me an expert.

one of my daughters has done a hairdressing course for two years. She would NEVER recommend colouring a childs hair, be it stain or otherwise.

naturalbaby Sat 24-Nov-12 00:27:42

well this is no fun anymore.

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Sat 24-Nov-12 00:28:03

I have no idea if this is real or not.

Either way it's not good. Whatever the thoughts about hair dye the oP seems nice, even though she scatterguns the old exclamation marks about.

If it is a pisstake - we you may as well get Marie Antoinette tshirts printed and say 'I like to laugh at the plebs'

I don't get it.

Some of us here might be part of that working class stereotype seeker. People look at me and have their preconceptions, I don't give a shit, I can take the piss out of myself the same as the next person. I think I've gone off point though. Sorry.

JambalayaWarmMincePie Sat 24-Nov-12 00:28:19

Most the toddlers I see have got earrings

Widen your circle OP, have you heard of the NCT at all? smile

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:30:48

pyscho just cuz your opinion is diffrent doesnt mean its right ! ?? your daughter has her opinion as well but does it mean shes right even tho ive done hairdressing as well ?? fuck sake

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GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Sat 24-Nov-12 00:32:10

People are being disingenuous - they must know that for a lot of people piercing ears when young is the norm. You may not agree with it, certainly, but no need to say 'well where I live that's not the norm'

Just to squash the argument tyson, why don't you tell them the name of the stuff you use?

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 00:32:24

You gathered that we're allowed to swear on here then, TysonsMummy. DO you know Juno in RL?

psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 00:32:31

and your opinion doesn;t make you right either.

TuftyFinch Sat 24-Nov-12 00:32:59

getorf I'll have one of those t-shirts. But only with Raglan, 3/4 sleeves. In green. Or grey.

BOFingSanta Sat 24-Nov-12 00:33:29

Is this thread a performance art piece or something? confused

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Sat 24-Nov-12 00:33:40

Bloody hell overuse of norm.

And you can't have an 'opinion' on the hair dye having chemicals or not, it either has or it hasn't

SirBoobAlot Sat 24-Nov-12 00:34:32

So... You did hair dressing and know exactly what you're talking about. But someone else does it, and their opinion is just different?


TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:35:51

jojo i dont put henna on my son but the indians put henna on the little girls you probably wouldnt say thats wrong i bet ? and no jojo its not like dressin them like a barbie when my girl is born i wont be putting makeup fake tan and stuff on her its different do you understand the diffrence ? if it doesnt hurt him whats the problem ?? and no empress

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Sat 24-Nov-12 00:36:12

I would actually love a Marie Antoinette t shirt.

In grey marl.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 00:36:15

I would also like to know the name of the fake tan you put on him.

Fake tan definitely does have chemcals, and a far few have been reported to have serious health risks.

And fair enough, I will put my hands up and say that where I live and where I previously lived, pierced ears on toddlers is/was not the norm.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:36:58

sirboob some hair dressers would cut someones hair with nits some wouldnt every1 thinks diffrent

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:37:36

omfg schrosaw please read it again i said i dont !!

SirBoobAlot Sat 24-Nov-12 00:38:02

Pierced ears on young children shouldn't be the form anywhere, but that's a whole 'nother thread.

TuftyFinch Sat 24-Nov-12 00:38:19

yes but Getorf it's got to be raglan 3/4, that's <reeally> important.Black writing.


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3b1g Sat 24-Nov-12 00:39:25

Tufty: I thought you'd gone to the beach...?

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Sat 24-Nov-12 00:39:38

My gran put sun in on my hair from when I was about 3 - I remember her saying 'for christ sake keep your eyes shut' as she sprayed it.

Madness. But I doubt anyone said 'fucking hell you've bleached a baby'.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 00:41:00

Right okay, read it again. I read it wrong, sorry.

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Sat 24-Nov-12 00:41:26

I really want to know why the raglan sleeve?

JojoLapin Sat 24-Nov-12 00:42:50

Seeker, do you think? That would be quite an achievement to sustain that spelling for the last 12 pages. Also, not much fun is it...

3b1g Sat 24-Nov-12 00:44:00

I think the raglan is a red herring. I think it's the 3/4 length that is pertinent. They are everywhere. I've had to knit myself a pair of arm-warmers.

TuftyFinch Sat 24-Nov-12 00:44:39

3b1g shhhhh, I'mjust boiling the kettle for my hot water bottle.
Getorf because some t-shirts look like this: T
a raglan sleeve just sits better and well, it jusst does. The next time you goto the big shops do a quick compare/contrast between a raglan and whatever the other type's called. Look at jumpers too.Masive difference.

The "real world". Fuck that, I'm in Narnia, no 3 year olds with pierced ears here. Aslan will back me up.

TuftyFinch Sat 24-Nov-12 00:46:31

3/4 or over long. Not just at the wrist, it just doesn't work. I'm very fussy. But 3b1g armwarmers are nice.

Yes, sorry seeker, I get your point, I guess I was just speaking for myself. (and went off point blush ) I do hate the 'let's look down on the lower classes' that happens here.

grin at getorfs gran though!

Lord empress relax, I'm not the op and have no idea who she is.

I thought perhaps this was along the lines of the op but perhaps not and it's genuine. Have no idea.

Off to bed in my "let them eat cake" t shirt, and yes, I know she never said that.

3b1g Sat 24-Nov-12 00:47:47

Sorry, I left out the word 'sleeve' from my last post (tired).

I want to know what the hell a raglan sleeve is!

GrrrArghZzzzYaayforall8nights Sat 24-Nov-12 00:50:08

Semi-Permanent hair dye CAN DO MAJOR HARM. Serious, permanent harm physically and emotionally. Even when done by a hairdresser.

My mother dyed my hair with semi-permanent at a similar age. I have only a handful of baby/toddler pictures with my natural colour. It was some spray stuff she put on in the summer to lighten my hair, the stuff was meant to wash out. I ended up dealing with an extremely sensitive scalp, pustules, and what I called "clumpy scalp" (the scalp was damaged and couldn't shed properly so I would get big lumps of unshed scalp cells that were very itchy and painful and would get infected from scratching and build up).

It was an awful thing to deal from a tiny 3 year old through the early years of primary. She used to have to comb out the lumps but refused to believe it was the dye (she was a hairdresser too, but they don't teach much about children's scalps apparently!). She moved on to permanent colours before I was out of primary through until I moved out in high school to get a brighter effect. I have never coloured my hair since, and I still live with a painful, itchy scalp, having to use metal combs to clear away the bumps and use special products.

It's far less pain than when I was little, but it's still something I will like have to deal with the rest of my life because my hairdresser mother thought I looked better blonde (my natural colour is an ashy brown). And that was likely the most painful lesson of all - the constant colouring gave me the lesson from an early age that I wasn't good enough, that I needed to change for other people to like me, that there was something wrong with me that my mother needed to fix. I now wear cloth caps at all times unless in private (I even wore them to give birth) because I feel more confident when I just keep it private because my hair was public domain and constantly under pressure as a child/young adult from my family.

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 00:51:30

grin Sorry Juno <takes off detective hat>

I thought you'd set her up but clearly not. Have some wine to take to bed.

garlicbaguette Sat 24-Nov-12 00:53:23

Here are the ingredients for LaRiche Directions, a demi-permanent hair colour which coats the hair but doesn't penetrate the cuticle:

Aqua, Cetearyl Alcohol, Distearoylethyl Hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate (and)Cetearyl Alcohol, Ceteareth –20, Butylene Glycol, Glyceryl Stearate, Citric Acid, Methylparaben. May contain: Basic Brown 17, Basic Brown 16, Basic Red 76, Basic Yellow 57, Acid Violet 43, Basic Green 4, Basic Red 46, Basic Orange 2, Basic Violet 4, Basic Violet 14, Basic Blue 7, Basic Blue 9, Basic Violet 2, H.C Yellow 4, H.C Yellow 2, H.C Orange 1, H.C Red 1, H.C Red 3, Acid Red 87, Acid Green 1.

Because I'm a bore, I'm aware that toxicity studies on the reds have shown worrying symptoms in rats which were force fed neat dye. None of them died or developed cancers, however. It's generally not advised to force-feed neat dye to one's children.

Some of you chemists might have a problem with the ingredients of Directions, in which case please share hunz smile To me they look like the ingredients of most shampoos, conditioners and moisturising lotions. You wouldn't eat them, mind.

blush about posting turgid detail on a fun thread, sorry! I was looking this stuff up earlier today, so felt compelled to share. <shuffles through back of wardrobe>

Crikeyblimey Sat 24-Nov-12 00:53:31

I always have a chortle at the "has no chemicals in" line. What's it made of then? Art?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:55:03

grrrargh stuff that lightens youre hair has got bleach in it !!

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:56:23

grrrargh it was probaly sunin which is bleach !!

sad grrrr

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 00:59:05

and i didnt dye it cuz i dont like his hair its just a bit of fun grrrargh your mum must not of knew that bleach cant wash out it takes colour out not puts colour in so it can only grow out or be cut out not fade

garlicbaguette Sat 24-Nov-12 00:59:51

That's really horrid, Grrr. Your mother tried to change you, basically sad

This is doubtless an obvious point but you have been checked for psoriasis, haven't you? It's quite often restricted to the scalp (but may flare up elsewhere if you get very run down).

Glad you found the cloth cap solution, though very sorry you needed to.

GrrrArghZzzzYaayforall8nights Sat 24-Nov-12 01:01:42

Actually, it was an "herbal" spray mixture that was popular at the time for "not having chemicals in it" (which is obviously rubbish, everything does). I didn't have bleach used on me until I was 9 when my mother wanted a proper blonde job done.

Seriously, they aren't meant for children's scalps, using them significantly increases the likelihood of skin conditions on the scalp of your child. It likely won't happen all at once unless an allergic reaction happens, but once it happens it will have to managed for a lifetime.

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Sat 24-Nov-12 01:02:58

Grrrr you poor thing. I am sorry that you suffered.

Gran dyed my hair for years with sun in (natural hair is reddish blonde, she hated any hint of ginger), and then when I hit 8 out came the toni perms.

I ended up dying my hair for years even after leaving home, only lately have stopped doing so.

Fuck knows why she so desperately wanted a marilyn blonde girl. She was a nutcase, however.

I am very sorry for how you have suffered,a dn how you feel.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 01:04:03

grrrargh anything that lightens is bleach unless its just lemon juice or cassia what cant do that unless u got a bad allergy
and thats you this is my son its diffrent cuz its not a dye its just a colour i know what im doing i did hair dressing 3 years and i only done the tips not the scalp

foxy6 Sat 24-Nov-12 01:08:38

Tyson. I wouldn't worry too much about everyone else they are judging you when they don't know you. I don't think any caring mother would do anything to harm their child and you checked the dye first chose the safest you could and only done the tips so it wasn't on the scalp. As for ear percing I don't know where everyone else lives but I often see little ones with their ears perced, although personaly I don't agree with it as that is permanent and should be decided when the child is old enough to understand. As for the hair dye it will wash out and I'm sure you son loves it just like My boys liked having their hair spiked with gel and their nails painted.

I shall now duck at the backlash of putting nail varnish on little boys .

You won't get that here foxy.

Tbh op, I don't know why you won't post the name of the dye you used?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 01:14:42

mrsrhett i dont know the dye the tubes finished i can discribe it its in a tube from shop called sallys ill see if it on the internet

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 01:27:13

TysonsMummy I'm going to be really rude now, but I'm doing it to be helpful. Feel free to report (never had a deleted post before and I need to tick that box on my MN membership card anyway).

People aren't sure whether this is a genuine thread or whether you're either a troll or a regular poster taking the piss. One of the reasons for this is that you don't use capitals, except for names, and you don't have any punctutation except for !s. It's also the use of hun and lol, and the fact that in your very first post you start a thread about why it's ok to dye a toddler's hair. The question of when it's ok to pierce a child's ears is one that causes a heated row here every few months and this feels like one step up from that.

If you are genuine, then I'd drop this thread as it's going nowhere for you. Have a look at Classics, as I suggested earlier. Look round the other threads for something that interests you (ideally not in AIBU though, other places are gentler). If you use capitals and punctuation in real life, then use them here.

Hope that helps.

GrrrArghZzzzYaayforall8nights Sat 24-Nov-12 01:27:24

A shop called Sallys? You mean Sally Beauty, which is one of the biggest beauty salon and beauty supply chains across multiple countries?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 01:41:11

empress i only joined here today cuz i got banned from my old mums forum i was on and ye ok i might not write the same as you but o well i have been on this form before and was really annoyed n posted a thread in here thats what its for n no offense but is it up to you what threads people make ? well i dont really write stuff in real life exept from texts facebook n forums to tell the truth and no this isnt my first post n you oviously didnt understand what this threads about
not every is the same as you this is the real wordl

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 01:41:58

duno grrrargh its a shop called sallys n sells salon supplys

GrrrArghZzzzYaayforall8nights Sat 24-Nov-12 01:43:14
TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 01:44:59

thats american

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 01:49:53

TysonsMummy, it's not up to me in the slightest what threads people make. I just thought it might help to explain a bit why you're getting some sceptical reactions. Goodnight and good luck.

<heads back to Puddle to finish off the chocolate brownies>

GrrrArghZzzzYaayforall8nights Sat 24-Nov-12 01:58:44

As I said, it's an international shop. The US version tends to pop up first.

Switch regions or use this one.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 02:00:35

yer that must be it grrrargh sallys

amarylisnightandday Sat 24-Nov-12 03:18:46

If its not a wind up surely getting banned from nethuns is a badge of honour over here wink

IAmSoFuckingRock Sat 24-Nov-12 04:09:52
FellatioNelson Sat 24-Nov-12 04:18:56

Empress in spite of the lols and the huns and the other er...idiosyncrasies, TM did say 'AIBU to have got angry at her?'

I don't know whether that is evidence of a wind up (a little slip out of character there wink) or whether it means she has potential and we can mould her and cure her. grin

IAmSoFuckingRock Sat 24-Nov-12 04:29:01

OP if you did hairdressing for 3 years you are bound to have used or at least heard of sally beauty and be aware that it is an international salon supply store! first day of college you would have been told of sally's and advised to apply for a sallys student card.

vintageviolets Sat 24-Nov-12 04:41:15


<goes back to sleep>

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 08:13:23

I don't think she wants to be moulded, Fellatio. I'm not here, anyway. I'm staying under my duvet.

naturalbaby Sat 24-Nov-12 08:48:47

The OP didn't ask if it's o.k to dye her kid's hair Empress

I didn't use capitals on any of my posts till a particular well known MN poster complained, it's hardly grounds for suspecting someone is a troll.

Maybe I'm missing the point, does it really matter if it's a wind up? Who exactly are we allowed to laugh at these days in the interests of comedy and entertainment?

JojoLapin Sat 24-Nov-12 08:52:48

You received an asbo fron Netmum and are banned!? whoa... It must have been pretty hardcore.

I'm banned from Nm's its pretty easy tbf...

JojoLapin Sat 24-Nov-12 09:03:30

Really? Why, what did you do?

StrawberriesTasteLikeLipsDo Sat 24-Nov-12 09:16:29

Chinny Reckon

dawntigga Sat 24-Nov-12 09:19:25

Have a jolly biscuit and a 6/10 for effort and a 1/10 for attainment.


CouthyMowEatingBraiiiiinz Sat 24-Nov-12 09:22:25

I only know on person whose child had pierced ears under the age of 7, most I know don't get their ears pierced until the summer holidays between primary and Secondary school when they are 11.

And as for hair dye not having chemicals in, they do. Even semi permanent ones do.

I can't see why it is necessary to dye a toddlers hair. If your toddler came to you and asked you to paint their body green, would you do it? If a toddler asked you to let them play in the garden at midnight, would you do it? If an older child asked to watch an 18 rated movie when they are 12, would you let them?

No, because it's called being a parent and making decisions that might be unpopular with your child because you are acting in their best interest.

You aren't there to be a 'friend' to your young child, you are there to be a parent. That sometimes means saying no to things that might not be best for them.

Yes, OK, you don't feel that it was harmful. But nobody has run tests on the chemicals in semi permanent hair dyes to see what effects they have on a child whose body is still developing.

I personally wouldn't take the risk, and neither would most professional hairdressers in salons. Most won't even consider putting hair dye on any DC under 12yo, permanent or semi permanent.

Dawndonna Sat 24-Nov-12 09:22:52

Oh, good grief@

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 09:29:41

OK, I got the topic wrong but it is still about dyeing a toddler's hair.

I was trying to be helpful. If the OP's genuine and getting the piss ripped out of her, isn't it only fair to try to explain a bit of what's going on?

grapelovingweirdo Sat 24-Nov-12 10:56:19

Op, you're not going to find anyone here who thinks its okay to dye a three year old's hair. I actually come from an area where it's normal to do this and also normal to pierce a baby's ears.

Then again, it's also normal where I'm from to get pregnant before or during the last year of secondary school, have kids by more than one father, never marry any of the fathers and never work.

Not saying this is you but you might need to rethink a few things.

Tyson is in danger of being labelled a "chav" before he has even had a chance to prove he isn't. I'd be a parent if I were you and focus on giving him a good start in life.

grapelovingweirdo Sat 24-Nov-12 10:58:44

Really not trying to be harsh. I am myself a product of this sort of upbringing. It was a struggle to educate myself properly but I got there.

SirBoobAlot Sat 24-Nov-12 12:09:48

There was a mum at playschool this week shrieking at her son not to mess with his hair or he'd damage the gel spikes it was in. It was painful to see.

Children are innocent for such a short period of time. They are body conscious for maybe even less. To dye their hair you are sending them a message that you want to change how they look, whether that is what you intend to do or not. Because I'm sure you will be saying lots of "Wow doesn't your hair look great!", and once it fades will be saying, "Oh that's a shame, the red is gone". You are then telling them that they are better when they look they way you changed them to look.

grapelovingweirdo Sat 24-Nov-12 12:48:39

Totally agree SirBoob (great name by the way!).

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 12:55:50

iamsofuckingrock we didnt use sallys we used a diffrent shop at collage where we had a card n no sirboob why are you sayingg things that you dont know ?? sirboob i dint do it to make him look better its for fun same as a mask or a funny hat he pretend to be a dragan with the hair and
grapelovin i am a parent im a good mummy to my lil man .. i wouldnt do anything what harms him and even if some1 does call him a chav i am teaching him that if some1 says something it dont matter !!
couthymow we was playing hairdressers me and tyson i never ever ever do stuff to harm him im a good mummy to him !! i dont let him watch 18s n i am a parent if he asks for coffy i say no so it ent like i just let him do what ever he wants .. ..

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TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:00:41

youcanring are you calling me a loser ??

SirBoobAlot Sat 24-Nov-12 13:04:53

Careful, YouCan, she was banned from another parenting forum dontchaknow? wink

Is this still going on??

OP, tell us what other wonderful tips you have? Please?
I was too drunk to read this last night, I think it would have been more fun drunk but...hey ho.

I'm supposed to be cleaning but I could do with a distraction.

Narked Sat 24-Nov-12 13:08:00

People don't really try anymore sad

I can't see how she was banned from netmums another site.

Don't they love all that "your bubZ, your rulez hunni LOLZ" over there?

SirBoobAlot Sat 24-Nov-12 13:09:43

You don't let him watch 18s or have "coffy". Well that's reassuring.

Thing is, its not the same as a mask or hat. You take those off immediately, with no risk of damage to the body. And they can be removed when the child decides to remove them. Hair dye doesn't just disappear overnight, and even the brightest three year old has no understanding of "this will last a few weeks".

And if you honestly can't see that that this is about way more than how many freaking years you studied hairdressing for, then I find that a bit sad to be honest.

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TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:10:25

tantrum tips ? what ??
i was only banned cuz i told some1 about there self

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:13:17

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Well, so far we have had hair dye, pierced ears and an amazing lack of spelling, grammar and punctuation

There must be more?

And sorry but it's someone
Some1 is not a word. At all.

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TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:16:21

sirboob what you trying to say ?? about i have hooves ??

Yes boobs you are a muppet.

What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
You use correct spelling, paragraphs and actual words.
You dont dye your 3 year olds hair.
I bet you didn't pierce their ears either.

Clearly, you are the muppet.

Didn't you know that "cloths" and hair are exactly the same??

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TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:17:09

Shave him?
So he has a choice then, painted like a prize poodle or bald.
I am, however, delighted that you don't allow him to watch or play anything rated an 18, or to drink coffee.
Not 'til he's 5 at least.

What's your stance on coke in his bottle?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:19:34

tantrums as long as it dont harm whats your problem ? and they are both as harming as each other so there the same why is it ok for you to trashtalk me i could be a better mummy then you how do you know just cuz of a bit of dye and a earing well what about every1 else what gets there lil girls ears done is that bad as well ??

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:19:48

As long as it only has natural vitamins and no chemicals...
I used to work in an area where coke in a feeding bottle with a teat was frequently seen in the hands of babies and 4 year olds.

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I actually cannot read what you just posted.

Can someone translate so I can respond?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:20:47

thenebulous i mean shave his hair on his head if he wants the dye off .. please read carefuly

MrsWolowitz Sat 24-Nov-12 13:21:18

And YES! Piercing small children's ears is wrong.

Unnecessary and horrible to see IMO.

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:21:18

The same area had one of the highest number of dental extractions in under 5s in the country. It does do harm.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:22:06

your not all better then me were all the same at the end of the day so dont be sooo sarky !!

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:22:09

I did read carefully, shave his head. As in a number one or a number two?

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TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:23:24

the only thing what matters to me in the world is lil man and lil girl in bump im a good mummy

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TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:24:25

nebulous grade 2 i use on lil mans head if thats what your asking ?

MrsWolowitz Sat 24-Nov-12 13:24:45

It's little not lil.

And no. No we are not all the same.

Some are responsible and some aren't. You are not.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:24:56

some times grade 1 not much

Floggingmolly Sat 24-Nov-12 13:24:58

If you told me my children resembled Tyson, I wouldn't take it as a compliment either.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:26:33

seeker why should i be ashamed ? only thing what matters to me is lil man and bump im a good mummy n i know i am so why should i be ashamed

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:26:36

If you know that you are a good parent, and that you believe in the NM philosophy of 'My bubz, my rulz' then why on earth are you posting a question like the one in your OP?
You like what you've done, someone else didn't. What were you looking for when posting here?
Validation that you were right? Why, if you are already sure that you are?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:27:41

flogginmolly are you saying what i think your saying ? about lil man or .. ?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:29:41

thenebulous i was soooo pissed off && was thinkin mabey i shouldnt said that to her n now your on your high horses you lot

MrsWolowitz Sat 24-Nov-12 13:31:29

Everyone "Yes. YABVVU"
OP "no I'm not"


TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:32:43

mrswolowits no1 has said yanbu or yabu .....

Poosnu Sat 24-Nov-12 13:33:29

This thread is making me feel quite uncomfortable.

SoleSource Sat 24-Nov-12 13:34:24


TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:34:26

i bet 1 of you bottle feed your lil ones thats worse

MrsWolowitz Sat 24-Nov-12 13:34:36

Yes they have!

You have been repeatedly told that dying your toddlers hair is wrong and irresponsible.

You should take some if those comments on board.

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 13:35:07

You did 3 years at hairdresser college? Did you finish? Or get a hairdressing job after?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:35:27

but you still trashtalk me when your prob not all perfect yourselfs ..... take a look in the mirror

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TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:36:02

no stropz cuz of lil man and yer i finished level 1 2 and 3

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:37:20

mrswolowit my point is that not all these on here are perfect mums to there lil ones so they cant say this to me when i bet some have done worse then me !!

gobbin Sat 24-Nov-12 13:37:35

Heh heh just skipped from page 1 to page 8... This thread is just so Jeremy Kyle lol! Am SO glad my DS never had to go to school with kids whose mum thought it was ok to dye a toddler's hair.

Outrageously common, dahling. Mwah.

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:38:33

No one is perfect, I still don't understand what you expected the answer to be.

You told a woman who expressed concern about you using chemicals on your young son's hair that 'WELL DONT JUST SAY cuz i dont want to hear your shit !!'

You are now being told that many of don't like hearing your shit either.

Narked Sat 24-Nov-12 13:38:50
TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:40:54

thenebulous so its ok for me to go up to a mum n say stop giving your lil one sweets it bad for them ?? or is it 1 rule for me n 1 for others ?

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:41:02

We have it on DVD I think, DS loves trolls and fantasy.

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 24-Nov-12 13:41:17

Why hasnt this been pulled?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:42:45

dont see why its ok to attack me basicly calling me a bad mummy

donnie Sat 24-Nov-12 13:43:51

the only advice I have OP is that you save what little cash you can by not forking out for hair dye and get yourself some spelling and grammar tuition. I myself offer this service on the side but I don't think you could afford my hourly rate grin

naturalbaby Sat 24-Nov-12 13:43:58

this is nasty.
The OP was upset about a comment directed at her child, the hair dye could be harmless paint for all we know, and yet plenty of posters feel it's acceptable to criticise the OP's parenting based on a bit of colour on the tips of the child's hair.
We don't even know exactly what the hair dye is or what's in it. Is a bit of colour on the tip of a bit of hair really going to poison the child?!

MrsWolowitz Sat 24-Nov-12 13:44:03

<deep breath>

OP, stop comparing dying your toddlers hair to completely different things such as sweets, face paint or fancy dress.

There is no comparison.

GrrrArghZzzzYaayforall8nights Sat 24-Nov-12 13:45:05

I have. I see the red angry bump covered scalp from my mother colouring my hair at an early age.

I'm not perfect, but learning to take on board new information and admit mistakes is a large part of being an adult and a decent person. I'm giving you information as a child whose hair was coloured from an early age by a hairdresser mother - all the hair colouring Sallys' sell are too harsh for kids' scalps. It is not food colouring, it's extremely concentrated and combined with other chemicals to make it stick. This raises the risk of skin conditions for your child in the future that they will have to live with the rest of their lives just for some fun. There are far less harmful ways to have the same fun.

And, if your OP is accurate, you were very unreasonable to swear at the other mother, especially in front of the children.

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:45:16

Perhaps there is no cause to pull it. The OP could be genuinely convinced of the righteousness of her beliefs and is prepared to continue to justify her choices.
As I said, I have worked in areas where this would be the norm, colourants, piercings, coke and MaccyD's for breakfast.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:45:46

mrswolowit i reckon sweets are less healthy than a bit of colour on the tips of his hair but i bet you dont attack them for that do ya

psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 13:46:04

oh god is this STILL going on.


dying your childs hair makes you an idiot. You claim it is natural, it may be, but it is still aimed at adult hair, adult skin, and it still contains chemicals.

fun is dressing up. fun is face paints that wash off at the end of the day. Fun in colouring childrens hair is the sticky type of hair paint that washes out at the end of the day. Again, that contains chemicals. and it is horrid horrid stuff that makes the childs hair sticky and clumpy and makes it feel funny - I know this from using it on red nose day a few years back when they made it 'mad hair day'. I let my daughters have it.....god it was dreadful, and the reactions from some children is the reason why they never did it again.....they realised how irresponsible they were marketing it.

If you are using something that washes straight out, then your poor son.....his hair must look and feel quite rank. And the much must you be spending??

if it is staying in beyond one wash, then is it then a permanent or semi permanent. Ergo, irresponsible.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:46:53

grrrargh i didnt shout it no kids could hear .....

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TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:48:52

She said that it can be bad for toddlers to put dye in their hair, and you swore aggressively at her.
That is an OTT response, whether there were children in earshot or not.

Is this thread still here?? Was it the mnhq night out last night??

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:49:12

mrswolowit answer me then

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TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:50:17

where does it say i swore agressivaly ?

dawntigga Sat 24-Nov-12 13:52:07

Narked I love that YouTube clip it's been ages since I've seen it ;)


EricNorthmansFangBanger Sat 24-Nov-12 13:53:13

<walks into thread>

biscuit hmm hmm confused

<backs out of thread slowly>

MrsWolowitz Sat 24-Nov-12 13:53:30

Of course I wouldn't "attack" someone for giving their children sweets.

Why would I?

A bag a sweets is not going to cause harm, hair dye can.

How is that in any way the same thing as giving a child a bag of sweets?

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TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:54:06

'I don't want to hear your shit' is aggressive swearing in my book.
Probably not yours.

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D0oinMeCleanin Sat 24-Nov-12 13:55:23

It is possible to put hair dye on without touching the scalp and therefore no chemicals will get onto the skin. The dye will damage the hair but hair is dead anyway once it has grown. It won't seep through the hair into the skin, so it is safe.

Whether it is right or not is a different matter but it is safe.

I've dyed dd1's hair for fun over summer holidays and not gotten any on her skin, however dd1 is not three and it is not something we do regularly.

I do know mums who are similar to the op and they are generally good mums.

I think OP is getting a bit harshly treat here. You might not agree with her choices but she didn't/isn't endangering her child.

Although I have yet to find a hair dye that contains absolutely no chemicals.

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 13:55:47

She doesn't need dollies, she has babies.

MyFace Sat 24-Nov-12 13:56:08

<howls> I go away for a few months and this is what I come back to? wink

mummylin Sat 24-Nov-12 13:56:57

confused rubs eyes

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:57:03

tantrums im saying they can both be harm to lil ones but if some1 went up to some1 & said dont do that then it would be a diffrent story
so a bit of colour of the tips of hair and breastfeed for a year is worse then bottle feed and no dye ?? any way that aint the point cuz i never go up to mums n say they are wrong n i dont call mums bad mums n idiots on the internet unlike you lot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

d0oin I think she's getting a hard time because of the attitude rather than the actual act.
But I still don't agree with dying a 3 year olds hair tbh.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 13:58:47

by the way im not sayin bottle feeding is bad its the example of what people could say

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 24-Nov-12 13:58:49

Nor do I really but the reactions she got were OTT. It's no surprise she got defensive. She sounds very young.

I formula fed my youngest. For my own reasons. The thing is, if I didn't, he would not have had any food. If you don't dye your sons hair, then he just doesn't have red hair. That's the bloody obvious difference.

MrsWolowitz Sat 24-Nov-12 13:59:18

I agree with Tantrums it's the OPs attitude that is crap causing people to lose patience with her.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:00:12

well no .. you was all saying this stuff before i even replyed ....

Fair enough d0oin

It just seems like one of those threads where it's either a complete wind up or an OP that refuses to listen to anyone's opinion.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:00:44

what do you want me to say o ok then sorry i will change now ?

MrsWolowitz Sat 24-Nov-12 14:01:51

But you keep making ridiculous comparisons between hair dye and completely irrelevant and separate issues.

Out of interest, how old are you OP?

No, but you asked for an opinion. You got opinions. You didn't like it.

You are going to get people who disagree with what you did. You must know that.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:04:22

mrswolowits my mum dyed mine n all my brothers n sisters a few times n nothing bad happen
yer i compared it to them things cuz it makes sense to me

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:05:06

tantrums about 3 people have said anythin about the woman ......

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:06:32

I bottle feed because my boobs don't produce the food DD needs. I don't dye my kids hair because I think it looks chavvy. My choice. Yours is different abduction while I think it is not appropriate I would not say anything because I would expect the abusive reaction you gave. Judge silently? You bet. You wbu to swear at her.

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 24-Nov-12 14:07:34

OP, you might get a better response if you use real words and sentences. MNetters can get a bit huffy about grammar and spelling. My sister uses a similar language to you, but even so it still makes my head hurt trying to decipher it.

Are you northern? I've only ever heard 'yer' being used oop north.

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:07:48

Abduction? ? Stupid phone. I meant "and", obviously.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:08:26

stropz my point is that if some1 came up to you n said it was wrong then would u be annoyed or what ?

Ok. The woman is irelevant tbh.

Dying a 3 year olds hair is AFAIK quite unusual.
So it may cause attention.
So I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that people are going to comment on it whilst you are out.

Is it her place to comment? Maybe not. But that's going to happen. People will comment.

When you put it out onto the Internet, again people will comment.
Either be prepared to take it on board or don't. It's up to you.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:10:14

doinmecleanin no not northern i mean yeh
dont think it should matter i am not the best at english not at all


This thread has cheered my right up!

OP, if you're for real I suspect that people may comment on all sorts of aspects of your life in the future.

If you are messing around, well done! <<applauds>>

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:12:52

If they swore at me yes I would be. It all depends on how it was said and what I was doing. I jokingly asked my hairdresser to dye my child's hair and she politely declined telling me it wasn't good for her. I did not take offence! I only asked to see her reaction but she was so nice about it. The point is even tho everyone here has told you it's not a good idea you want to pretend it is.

gobbin Sat 24-Nov-12 14:13:21

Don't forget to take a picture of him to embarrass him with on his wedding day... he'll probably be mortified that you did this to him at an age when he had no choice.

TroublesomeEx Sat 24-Nov-12 14:14:09

Is this real?

Just in case it is, OP you do realise that everyone is taking the piss don't you?

my mum dyed mine n all my brothers n sisters a few times n nothing bad happen I would beg to differ.

FivesAndNorks Sat 24-Nov-12 14:15:51

Who is the OP then?

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:16:01

that womans the 1st ever to say anything about the dye until this thread

TidyDancer Sat 24-Nov-12 14:16:18

Oh dear. Seriously for a moment (and giving you the benefit of the doubt that this might be completely true), this thread is now hundreds of posts long. The massively overwhelming majority of people have told you that you are wrong to colour your DS's hair. You still think you were right (presumably?), so really if you weren't open to being told that, why post on this board?!

You were also abusive to the woman who (quite rightly) said something to you about colouring your DS's hair.

You are very much in the wrong here. The answer to your original question is yes, YWBU. You were U in your reaction, you were U in colouring the hair to begin with, and you are U to continue defending such a stupid action.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:16:28

im the op

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TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 14:17:45

Perhaps other people din't want to trigger the reaction that she received.
If you are bolshie, thin-skinned and aggressive then most people will say nothing, whatever their opinions.

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 24-Nov-12 14:17:45

It shouldn't matter really, but it does to a lot of MNetters.

Spelling is a touchy subject, one half of MN think they are spelling police, the other half think it is unfair to judge a poster on their ability to spell.

Using text speak and slang is generally frowned upon by most posters and will influence the way people reply to you.

Wrt your OP I agree with Tantrum's last post. Dying the hair of a child that young will draw unwanted attention and might attract some comments. If you are not prepared to deal with that then maybe wait until he is older. I can't imagine that it will be allowed when he starts nursery anyway, so it might be better to prepare him for not being able to experiment with his hair now.

I would have just ignored the woman who commented. Dd1 turned a few heads when she dyed purple streaks in her hair over summer but I realised that would happen before she did it. No-one said anything to us, but she was 8 not 3.

It's also going to cause people to judge you as a parent and might influence the kinds of friends your son mixes with and the impression that teachers have of him.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:17:53

folkgirl no not 1 bad thing happen & that was with a much worse dye ..

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:19:47

So because no-one else has ever approached it that means it's fine? I think at some point you will have to accept either you are wrong and stop posting, or that some strangers on the internet really have no right to comment on what you do, and stop posting. You will not convince us you are in the right, sorry.

OP, are you Sharon shock??

<<squinty-eyed hard stare>>

ouryve Sat 24-Nov-12 14:20:44

OK, OP, since you asked, no I'm not perfect and yes, YABU.

And for the sake of further clarity, the dihydrogen monoxide I referred to in my links - that really harmful stuff - is water. You're confusing it with hydrogen peroxide which, of course, is a bleach and an irritant.

Nothing is chemical free. No doubt, today, you will eat lycopene, theobromine and xanthophylls in some quantity, specially if you're fond of tomato ketchup and chocolate. They're all naturally occurring in edible plants. Of coruse, natural does not necessarily equal harmless, since tobacco, cannabis, opium poppies, deadly nightshade and foxgloves are all plants with extracts that have various effects on the human body, not all good, some very bad.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:21:55

teabag HOW DARE you judge on how some1 looks i am teachin him that it dont matter what others think when hes older he can dress how he wants n look how he wants its got nothing to do with anything else n calling people chavs is discusting .. & saying what my son will end up like ..... the most clever boy in my year at school had a blue mohican n stretched ears so what does that tell ya ?

Why would anyone want to dye their child's hair?
I am genuinely gobsmacked.

SoleSource Sat 24-Nov-12 14:22:31

<lends Pacific me binocs, saving her eyesight>

Caring I am.

What you see?

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:24:13

Tells me a lot about the school

Thing is we live in a society that does care about appearance. Teaching your son that his looks don't matter could well be very detrimental.

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TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:24:29

teabag who do you think you are ?? discusting thing to say !! you cant insult my son dont know what he will grow up like ...

naturalbaby Sat 24-Nov-12 14:24:58

Some people are unable to spell and punctuate as well as some MN posters, but the MN posters think that's an acceptable reason to be rude and condescending about the OP's parenting?
How does a bit of colour+text speak=bad parent?

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 14:26:04

Teabag I wish you wouldn't mention age or education. I am 21, I have a 14mo DS and am pg (contraception failure).

I don't have a decent education either due to problems at school, I left at 14 (mostly due to disability but most people in rl wouldn't know this).

I am on ESA because I haven't been able to work (I am now in contact with a disabilty to work agency because I do actually want to work), so really, most people who don't know me will think I am just a common chav with 2 kids at 22 and on the dole.

What I am getting at here is, in others view I would probably fit this stereotype, however I don't for one second think it is okay to dye a toddlers hair, pierce their ears or give them a skinhead.

I really hate it when people mention age or education on these threads.

OP, rightly or wrongly people judge on appearance.

My DS is 13. He cannot walk the dog alone after 6pm because he gets stopped by the police every time. He can't be on the street with his friends in a group because people assume he is going to mug or stab someone.

He is judged because he is a mixed race, hoodie wearing teenager and where we live people assume that equals trouble.

So yes, other people make judgments based on how you look.

Teabagtights Sat 24-Nov-12 14:26:20

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TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:26:23

teabag you shouldnt judge on looks .. or call people chavs ... i am giving him an education .. i will make him go to school .. stop judging on looks !! all that matters is he is happy thats all that matters

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:27:11

that is so discusting calling me a chav n saying my son has a bad future how dare you .. you have took it to far ..

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 14:29:00

No one can possibly predict what Tyson will become in the future, and it would be foolish to try. I have had a number of children delight and disappoint me over the years, the children in the first class I taught are now 40 years old.
Some past pupils are a success, some are criminals, most are ordinary and several are dead. Piercings, dye and name choices notwithstanding.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 14:29:10

In all fairness Tysons, you are making some bad decisions for your child and others will judge.

Remember these posters are real people too, they will be thinking the same as most other people you come across in rl and it will be affecting others view about you and unfortunately, your child as well.

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:29:27

Teabag is perfectly showing you what is going to happen for the rest if your life here. People will make assumptions about you send your son, not always pleasant ones. Him being happy is very important but it is not all that matters.

psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 14:29:28

it is spelled 'disgusting' :-)

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:30:49

no schro cuz most people i come across in real life have got no problems with it .. and like i said i am teaching him that it dont matter what others think of him ..


I really don't think there's any profit to this argument.

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:31:59

But it DOES matter. I'm sorry but what others think of you is actually incredibly important when asking friendships and getting a job.

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psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 14:32:59

actually, I think you are teaching him that it is okay to swear and be aggressive towards anybody who might make comments on his looks.

I have read none of the the thread. Have T Rex and Sharon had a mention yet?

By shouting at the woman who made the comment about his hair you are not teaching him it doesn't matter what people think.
you are getting offended and shouting about it.

So it does matter to you.

MrsWolowitz Sat 24-Nov-12 14:34:27

You are right that your son being happy is very important.

However, it is not the only thing that matters.

People will, rightly or wrongly, judge you and your children.

Pierced ears, dyed hair or skinhead, text-speak and swearing in children's groups reaks of "chav".

I don't like that word but I'm sorry but from what you have said then I'm sure you will regularly be judged as such.

DialsMavis Sat 24-Nov-12 14:34:29

Teabag... You sound absolutely vile. I know people like you, whose DC don't stand a chance. They will turn out nasty, judgemental and offensive just like their parents. The best thing you can do for your DC us to make sure they learn when not to be awful and condescending. FWIW I have always found people who use the word 'chav' to be terribly déclassé wink

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 14:34:43

Just because they don't mention it to you, doesn't mean they don't think it's a stupid idea or disagree with your decision.

And that's the wrong idea to teach him, it certainly does matter what people think of him if you want him to have a good future as an adolescent and adult.

X post pyschmum grin

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:35:01

pyscho i didnt swear in front of him ...... he couldnt hear me .....
stropz as long as hes happy in him self

Exactly Hobnobs. Shatteringly tedious read isn't it?

Could I have a summary? <please>

Have wee been invaded again? It's been a little bizarre here this week?

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 24-Nov-12 14:36:30

It shouldn't matter what people think of him but sadly it does but it will influence the way that people treat him and their expectations of him.

Once your son is old enough to decide for himself that is strong enough to cope with that, then fine. But while he is so young it is your job to protect him from the less open minded in the world.

He is going to be old enough to start understanding what the funny looks, silly comments and harsh reactions mean soon.

People will judge what kind of person he is based on the way he dresses, wears his hair etc. Once he starts school you might find that many children are discouraged from befriending him and he is excluded from parties and play dates. I'm not saying that any of this is right, but it will happen. People will judge him and yourself based on the choices you make for him.

If enough people expect him to amount to nothing he might start believing it himself.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 14:36:58

Shouting and swearing in public isn't a way to project a good image of yourself, regardless of if your child can hear.

You are an adult, you should act like one.

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Sat 24-Nov-12 14:37:08


Don't troll-hunt on threads, please

And putting a stop to the personal attacks would also be nice

Talk Guidelines are here if anyone's unsure


OP No I'm not you are all horrible, etc etc

But in text speak.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:37:32

well not being funny but most people iknow are same as me in allot of ways n where i live every1s kids got ears peirced n stuff but alot of them grow up to have a good job n go to collage

Teabagtights Sat 24-Nov-12 14:38:29

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ooh I got deleted but the shit stirring twat wankery stands. Seems a lot like that on here recently.

Teabagtights Sat 24-Nov-12 14:39:13

Going to college is nothing to be proud of, every child in the whole country should get A Levels as a minimum.

Thanks Tantrums. Sounds pretty much like most AIBUs then. confused

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 14:39:52

"they are fatist but thats about it."

That's pretty awful.

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:40:05

OMFG your saying my kids will be in prison !! you dont know that what a stupid thing to say

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:40:32

Teabag that's a nasty thing to say. Please stop the personal attack. Disagreeing is one thing but that is quite another.

teabag you cannot possibly know what the OPs son will do when he grows up. That's a bit much isn't it?
Are we just writing off chikdren now?
Are you the type of person who would assume my DS will end up in prison as well?

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 24-Nov-12 14:41:19

Teabags, you are coming across in a worse light than the OP herself is.

Hobnobs - I got deleted too. For a post of five words , all of which were correctly spelt and were stating the blindingly obvious.

I am outraged! grin

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 14:42:47

Tyson Yes, that is a bloody awful thing to say. Hurts to think that people would think that, doesn't it?

Unfortunately that will be a common view when you do things to your child like you have.

I'm not that close minded and realise that any child can do well regardless of background.

The view of others does matter though, remember it's not your life you are playing with though and some people will think what Teabag has.

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 14:43:15

Teabags, the child is three. You have no idea what his future will hold.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 14:43:30

Why is Teabag not being deleted? Some of the things she has said are pretty nasty.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 14:44:26

Actually, I see she has been.

Sorry! smile

I was deleted as well.

But saying the ops child will end up in prison is just fine and dandy?

Ooh sorry MNHQ it has been deleted.

rockingchariots Sat 24-Nov-12 14:47:03

My reply was deleted ha ha, Oh please. This entire thread should be deleted it's a load of crap! grin Pity MN didn't intervene ages ago!

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 14:47:19

She has been deleted, I think MN are trying to keep up.
hair dye = wrong
ear-piercing a child = wrong
excruciating posting style = painful but manageable

Damming a child to a hopeless future because of a parent = wrong on numerous accounts, and very nasty

No idea why threads like this are allowed to stand .

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 14:48:45

I didn't get deleted!

<smug> grin

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:53:20

I've never been deleted sad I'm just not controversial enough!

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 14:54:01

I don't think I am either!

TysonsMummy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:54:23

my thread shouldnt get deleted actualy cuz i havent actualy insulted any1

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:55:26

I'll report you if you report me.

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 14:57:14

Apart from the lady who voiced her opinion eh Tyson? wink

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 24-Nov-12 14:58:24

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I seem to spend my life recently reporting bollocks on here. Clearly I have become far too cynical and jaded.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 15:00:18

Strop Haha, feeling like you need deleted? I have been before but it's been a couple of times over years. smile

Jamie MNHQ have already been on and asked us not to troll hunt, because of that I really don't think it is a troll.

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 24-Nov-12 15:00:38

The thread should be deleted because people are blatantly taking the piss out of you and you appear to be too inexperienced in the ways of t'interweb forums to see what is going on.

It's pretty sad to watch, although in fairness I think the earlier posters believed you were being less than truthful and simply joined in what they thought was a wind up thread.

The thread should be deleted if for no other reason than crimes against the English language.

AllYoursBabooshka Sat 24-Nov-12 15:01:06

Regardless of anything the OP has said or done I think your posts are really unkind Tea.

Why are you getting so personal?

JambalayaWarmMincePie Sat 24-Nov-12 15:01:08

It's entertaining for a Saturday afternoon. It might be better than the twins shared birthday party one, especially as nobody is team tyson -ing. grin

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 15:01:49

I just feel my life would be that much better if I could claim membership to that exclusive club. sob

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 24-Nov-12 15:03:19

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psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 15:05:09


I had my comment deleted.

I didn;t even swear, how sensitive can some people be.

but this is acceptable - "WELL DONT JUST SAY cuz i dont want to hear your shit !!" hmm

Stropzilla Sat 24-Nov-12 15:05:31

Ooh have I been taken in?? I'm not usually so trusting.

Lollyheart Sat 24-Nov-12 15:06:38

Fucking hell teabag you really are a nasty person, no need for that is there.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 15:07:04

I don't know, I thought so at first but I think it would be hard to keep that up for over 20 pages.

psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 15:07:07

and she was aggresive to me here - "pyscho just cuz your opinion is diffrent doesnt mean its right ! ?? your daughter has her opinion as well but does it mean shes right even tho ive done hairdressing as well ?? fuck sake"

Should I weep in the corner now??

os ydi hwn yn wir fe wna i dynnu fy nillad i i gyd i ffwrdd a rhedeg lawr y stryd. celwydd yw e i gyd.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 24-Nov-12 15:08:52


She spelled basically correctly on page 1, then "basicly" a few pages later

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 15:09:42

Right okay, you win. grin

"It's pretty sad to watch, although in fairness I think the earlier posters believed you were being less than truthful and simply joined in what they thought was a wind up thread."

Yeah, I feel quite bad for my part in it now. It just seemed like the kind of thread a regular would post, knowing just how many MN boxes it would tick.

Dydi MNHQ ddim yn deall Cymraeg !!

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 15:11:22

I want this to be true so you run down the street naked... That would be a way to brighten up a boring Saturday!

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 15:12:01

having a Celtic moment Hobnobs?
Or waiting for MN to locate a Welsh speaker to translate?
DH used to snarl at people in Russian when they cold called. Usually lines from 19th century fiction.


SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 15:12:39

Hob I think you're right.

If the OP can use txtspk with impunity I claim the right to post in the language of heaven grin

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 24-Nov-12 15:13:52

On page 12 she spells different correctly, then on the next post it's back to "diffrent"


Mae'r OP yn malu cachu mae'n siwr.

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 15:15:26

They speak Welsh in Heaven? confused
Good job I'm not going there then!

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 15:15:53



SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 15:16:31

You're having too much fun with this. wink

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 24-Nov-12 15:16:57

And even poor spellers can spell "coffee"

Rwyn cael llawer o hwyl. Efallai fe wna i wneud hyn o hyd.

Lollyheart Sat 24-Nov-12 15:17:41

Op how about put a pick on your profile so we can see it smile

TheNebulousBoojum Sat 24-Nov-12 15:17:43

Jamie, haven't you got proper marking to do? grin

EmpressOfTheMadBoxOfFrogs Sat 24-Nov-12 15:19:58

I tried to explain to the OP several pages back that she was now having the piss ripped out of her and it might be a good idea to back off - just ended up pissing her off further.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 15:20:16

Hob Seems like you are anyway! Finding it quite funny actually.

OP I suggest you name change and re-begin your time on here, probably away from AIBU until you get used to the views on this forum.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 24-Nov-12 15:21:53


So true grin

Emmielu Sat 24-Nov-12 15:22:16

I didnt understand a word of the op.

TandB Sat 24-Nov-12 15:25:20

Are we being insulting mysterious in other languages? Excellent!

Es runaju mazliet latviski, MNHQ, bet mana izruna un mana grammatica nau pareizas.

So there.

Kungfu mae e'n hwyl dweud beth bynnag mewn iaith arall.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 24-Nov-12 15:27:36

I am genuinely baffled as to why you are dying your 3 year old sons hair. I don't understand why you're doing it. Apologies if you've explained but I lost the will to read the entire thread given the amount of deleted posts.

So,irrespective of what has been said about you doing it...Why are you doing it?

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 24-Nov-12 15:28:59

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SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Sat 24-Nov-12 15:31:29

Jamie Are you seriously going through all the posts again to find inconsistancies in OP's spelling? confused

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 24-Nov-12 15:35:06


psychomum5 Sat 24-Nov-12 15:36:24

hobnobs are you just generally nattering away in welsh, or are you lowering the tone and calling her a fucking cunt winkgrin???

<wanders off to look up rude words on google translate>
Fydde ni byth yn defnyddio geiriau mochedd.

IAmSoFuckingRock Sat 24-Nov-12 15:39:31

what a horrible thread. some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Jamie get a grip, plenty of people who can't spell will spell a word differently each time they write it, because they can't spell!

This thread is awful, even if it is fake this is how some people are and how they live.

teabag you are vile, and as for going to college being "nothing to be proud of" climb down from your tower. Some dc have to work incredibly hard to go to college. Especially when those around them never have and don't see the point.

MrsBucketxx Sat 24-Nov-12 15:42:36


i am agog totally,

where you live sounds like and episode of shameless, your child is not a plaything/doll fashion accerssory, what ever.

you could cause permenant damage to your childs hair and head, and ear piercing is totally wrong on a child that has no say in the matter.

YABU anf you know it.

I do think in the beginning it was assumed this was a wind up. I thought it was.

I think there have been some nasty comments and if this really is real I apologise for my part in that.

I still don't think you should dye a 3 year olds hair though, and if you post on AIBU? You had better make sure you are prepares to hear "yes you are"

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sat 24-Nov-12 15:47:58