to think taking your child to see santa this week

(117 Posts)
mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 15:05:25

is frankly stupid.

It's bad enough people putting their decorations up this week but taking your kids to visit Santa in November under the premise of "it's for the kids" is utter nonsense. It is all about the parent and will probably spoil some of the excitement for the children nearer the date.

Really ?

I would have thought that people make appointments with Santa as he's awfully busy the nearer you get to Christmas ? wink

Sparklingbrook Sat 17-Nov-12 15:07:46

Apparently he is arriving at our local mahoosive unnecessarily expensive Garden centre today. Oh joy.

WelshMaenad Sat 17-Nov-12 15:08:56

Why will it spoil the excitement?

Curious. also about to take my kids to see Santa, CID it's when he's HERE

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 15:09:08

I think having anything to do with Christmas before about the 12th of December is utterly unreasonable.

I'm bored of it already.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Sat 17-Nov-12 15:09:51

I refuse to participate in things like this until December. We go and buy our tree the first Saturday and then we start grin

I can see why places do it though, because people will go and it must be a great money-spinner.

so what? Just because it isn't what you would do doesn't mean it's stupid. You're presuming quite a lot in that OP.

Maybe those parents just want to do something nice for their DC.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 15:13:06

welshmaenad

Spreading the excitement over such a long period must dilute the excitement surely?
Over a month to a child must seem like an eternity.

Sparklingbrook Sat 17-Nov-12 15:13:17

I think it could confuse very small children when there is a huge gap between seeing Father Christmas and him delivering the loot. grin

nokidshere Sat 17-Nov-12 15:13:30

If you want to go on a booked thing - like a santa train or soemthing, november is pretty much all they have left if you haven't booked in January smile I dont think it spoils it for them - just makes it longer to wait for him grin

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 15:16:20

lightbulbsoup

I am not saying it's stupid JUST because I wouldn't do it. I can assure you there are plenty of things that others do, that I don't, which I don't think are remotely stupid.

As for saying the parents are just wanting to do something nice for DC, well that's my point, it's not particularly nice to visit Santa in November and then wait for ever IMO. I am sure they could think of other nice things to do in November no?

WelshMaenad Sat 17-Nov-12 15:19:33

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I8toys Sat 17-Nov-12 15:21:20

I don't think its stupid - shortsighted maybe - as its a long wait from 1st December to Christmas Eve. And to keep that level of excitement would be exhausting.

Its bad enough we have advent calendars, elf on the shelf, various trips to santa - down the mine, down the caves and on a train for us - but for it all to start in November??!! December 1st for us.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 15:23:59

welshmaenad

So I have judged and have an opinion and you call me a cunt hmm

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 15:24:13

I really wish Christmas just started later. I hate it and I don't want 3 months of the year taken up with it.

No problem if people like it, that's great and I am glad they do. But does it really need to be spread over such a long time and have all these trappings that you "have" to do? You have to go ice-skating, you have to have an advent calendar, a Christmas cake, do something on Christmas eve...

kenanddreary Sat 17-Nov-12 15:24:44

YANBU - it's utterly ridiculous.

WelshMaenad Sat 17-Nov-12 15:25:11

Pretty much, yup.

Sparklingbrook Sat 17-Nov-12 15:27:11

Blimey. Being called a c**t on a thread about Father Christmas. sad

kenanddreary Sat 17-Nov-12 15:27:28

Nice response WelshMaenad hmm

FeckOffCup Sat 17-Nov-12 15:27:34

Santa arrives in my town tomorrow, a parade through the town centre with real reindeer to his grotto in the shopping centre. I am taking DD to see the parade but probably not to the actual grotto as the queues will be horrendous. I expect lots of people will go to the grotto tomorrow though, it is quite early but then we have a lot going on at the weekends in December itself and maybe others are the same so taking their chance just now?

Sparklingbrook Sat 17-Nov-12 15:29:31

It must be all v confusing to small children. Father Christmas arrives at the v expensive Garden centre today, then the shopping centre in town next Saturday. confused I am glad mine are older and don't question things any more.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 15:30:48

feckoffcup

I can see why you would take DD to see a one off parade but why so early? Surely this is earlier than normal.

Ha ha, me and the DC have put out Christmas tree up today and I couldn't give a shiny shit if anyone judges me for it!

I still think it's a nice thing to do and not necessarily all about the parents. You just come across as very sneering about this.

Tamisara Sat 17-Nov-12 15:32:49

FeckOff Father Christmas is arriving at my town tomorrow too... Aylesbury!

Sparklingbrook Sat 17-Nov-12 15:33:43

Cool have you really? Do you do it every year this early?

I have indeed and yes we do it every year, lots of people, especially my Mum get VERY het up about it but I really couldn't care less, my DC are 10 and 5 and it has never 'ruined Christmas' or taken away the magic!

I grew up with miserable parents who didn't like Christmas and it was horrible, so I always promised myself when I had DC I would really get in to it and we do! They love it and DH thinks we are bonkers!

missymoomoomee Sat 17-Nov-12 15:37:40

I am putting up my decorations next week and going to see Santa next weekend, I might even take the kids along smile we do lots of christmassy stuff every weekend in the run up so its not like we see Santa in November and then theres nothing until xmas, it prolongs the excitement rather than dilutes it imo.

Its bloody harsh to call you a cunt though hmm we only kick of the festivities in November because I love it so your observations are right there, you are wrong about spoiling it for the kids though.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 15:37:51

lightbulbsoup

I actually do believe putting decorations up so early etc is all about the parents. I mean it's the parents decision isn't it. I personally think it dilutes the excitement for the children though. I mean seeing the same decorations up day in day out for over a month before the actual day surely has to dilute the atmosphere somewhat.

I can honestly never remember anyone putting decorations up in the middle of November ever when I was growing up. Is it a new thing?

FeckOffCup Sat 17-Nov-12 15:38:31

It is a little early but I'm happy to go with it, as I said we're quite busy in December itself so if the parade was then we probably couldn't go, I might do Santa's grotto tomorrow if the queue isn't too bad as we will be there anyway and it saves having to go back, shopping centres are like hell close to Christmas.

HoneyDragon Sat 17-Nov-12 15:40:44

Wow. Sat down on here for the first time today and ops are declaring people stupid or idiots. Think I'll do the ironing.

I8toys Sat 17-Nov-12 15:41:00

Saw my first decorated house on Wednesday - santa stop here sign outside. I had to double take!!

Bloody long wait!

joanbyers Sat 17-Nov-12 15:41:30

I got in a considerable rage, on 31st October going into Argos and hearing Christmas music. Muttering under my breath about how absurd it was.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 15:42:31

Do you think if you started celebrating a personal birthday way before the actual date it would detract from the excitment of the actual birthday? I do.

I wonder what the mumsnet jury think?

5madthings Sat 17-Nov-12 15:43:01

well we go see santa when we can fit it in, generally in december but if we are busy etc then it could be earlier, the children dont mind waiting its all just part of the build up and the excitement, plus the queues are generally smaller if you go earlier.

Sparklingbrook Sat 17-Nov-12 15:43:47

I have a new radical idea. Why doesn't everyone just do what they like? Genius.

5madthings Sat 17-Nov-12 15:44:10

putting decorations up is done when i can be arsed, my kids would have them up all year round if i let them! they like them.

Sirzy Sat 17-Nov-12 15:44:22

Ds is just 3. We haven't been to see santa yet but we have been to a few garden centres to see the Christmas displays - infact he is currently running around with a pink star and tinsel!

He is loving it and is getting nicely excited about Christmas. We aren't going to see Santa til early December but that's because that's the date that fits best.

Exactly Sparkling!

Sirzy Sat 17-Nov-12 15:48:40

Ye and what sparkling said!

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 15:50:01

I actually do believe putting decorations up so early etc is all about the parents. I mean it's the parents decision isn't it.

Everything about Christmas is the parents decision otherwise our tree would be up in bloody July and presents would have been opened by now. What a ridiculous thing to say. Of COURSE everything is to do with the parents.

Our tree goes up next week, I am as excited as the kids and I couldn't give a shit what anyone else thinks or what they prefer to do.

I certainly wouldn't start a thread complaining that other people don't Christmas how I think it should be done! Every family has their own way of doing things and good for them, I say!

Is christmas just for children now? sad

I don't know if it's a new thing to be putting up decorations in mid November but i think NoCoolUsername's reasons are actually really nice.

I love xmas but it does seem to come round earlier in a commercial sense every year. I feel like I'm on a conveyor belt going from one seasonal holiday to another with no rest stops.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 15:57:06

I agree lightbulb soup, it's the consumerism side of starting earlier that grates on me.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 15:59:41

tesscowdirect

Well strictly speaking it's a religious holiday on 2 days of the year isn't it? But the whole Santa's present bit is really about the kids I think.

MrsCantSayAnything Sat 17-Nov-12 16:00:03

We're off to see the village christmas lights get turned on tonight. Father Christmas will be there. So obviously, he doesn't think it's too early.

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 16:00:55

That's what I don't like. The commercial side of it. The endless pushing of new products and experiences that you HAVE to have since it's xmas. Every town has a Christmas market, a Santa's grotto, an ice-skating rink. Of course kids are going to want to do these things and of course parents want them to be happy. It just makes me feel sad that all of this costs money that not everyone has.

Geargrinder Sat 17-Nov-12 16:02:31

Sparkling, it might be a coincidence, but I was going to pop to our local Garden centre to get some bits from some of the other shops there today, until I looked online and saw that Santa was arriving so early. If it begins with B it's probably the same place. Really would like to go and soak up some of the Xmas spirit in a few weeks, but I think starting now is a bit much for my 2.5 year old.

EdgarAllanPond Sat 17-Nov-12 16:02:36

it's not that much of a religious holiday in this household. more of a midwinter treat.

and i will have decs up december 1st.

taking kids to see sant now = sensoble and will avoid queueing for five hours with increasingly tetchy DC for a hurried 5 mins with an overheating bloke in a suit.

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 16:05:40

FromEsme, I love all the things you listed but I don't take my kids to the expensive stuff and they never know about it.

Our town doesn't have an ice rink, but we do go to a Grotto - the school does one for only £2 anyway. There are loads of cheap things you can do related to Christmas that cost very little. We collect pine cones, make decorations, make mince pies, wrap presents, watch Christmassy DVDs etc.

We get excited early and it never diminishes. We also spread it out the other side too, by retaining some gifts to open Boxing day and New Years day. People give them so much, they don't even notice us tucking a few away for when the excitement's died down.

I love our Christmases and I am unapologetic about it.

Sparklingbrook Sat 17-Nov-12 16:06:20

No, ours begins with a W Gear. it must be the day for Father Christmas arriving at Garden centres throughout the land. grin I wanted to go to Hobbycraft which is in the store but will wait til tomorrow I think.

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 16:06:37

That's great YouOldSlag ...for you. No-one said you can't enjoy Christmas.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 16:06:38

I think it's like everything in life best enjoyed to it's maximum enjoyment in moderation.

I have not been convinced that the excitement doesn't get diluted by the length of the indulgence.

Sparklingbrook Sat 17-Nov-12 16:09:10

I do take the tree down on Boxing Day every year, no matter when it was put up.

Pooka Sat 17-Nov-12 16:10:16

Way too early for Christmas stuff.

I'm of the school that thinks that delaying gratification and waiting until nearer the time is a good thing.

Even our local crazy lights man doesn't switch his on (which can then be seen from space and are visited from miles around - he's got charity boxes and everything) until the 1st December at the earliest.

Enigmosaurus Sat 17-Nov-12 16:15:23

I LOVE Christmas. I am at my happiest in the run up to it. I don't know why but I have always adored this time of year.

I've put some decs up today. When I was a child, we weren't allowed to even mention it until a week after my sibling's birthday, so 15th at the earliest and I was always itching to have the tree up and the twinkly lights and to have it all cosy and snug. So now I do it as early as I can.

I don't care what anyone thinks. I'm happy, my children are happy. Each to their own, eh?

Geargrinder Sat 17-Nov-12 16:17:56

It was hobbycraft I wanted to visit as well. The chain is a W so I guess they are rolling them out across the land, as you say, Sparkling.

Our tree goes up mid December and comes down on Jan 5th. Christmas will prob begin weekend of the 15th here, as that is when DD goes to a party at DH's work. We can do the tree in the morning to get me her in the mood. grin

usualsuspect3 Sat 17-Nov-12 16:20:35

Why does it bother you so much what other people do with their children and houses?

Are they forcing you to go and see santa? are they coming round your house and putting decorations up?

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 16:29:25

usualsuspect

As I have said earlier, I think the earlier shops start the whole Christmas thing, whether that be selling Christmas goods or putting up a Santas grotto the less impact the actual event has for everyone. By people buying into the whole Christmas starts in early November the more the shops will do it and the less enjoyment for all.

It is my opinion that there would be far more wow factor for adults and children alike if everything started in December earliest. I just wonder when it'll stop October maybe?

usualsuspect3 Sat 17-Nov-12 16:32:59

Some people like to christmas shop in November. They obviously enjoy it. Or should we all do Christmas your way?

Shops have to make money, christmas is the time they make the most.Of course they are going to exploit it for all it's worth.

StaceeJaxx Sat 17-Nov-12 16:34:32

Well we took our dds to see Santa yesterday. They had an Inset Day so we thought we'd make the most of it, and hopefully beat the crowds. It was great, there wasn't another soul there. grin The kids took their time looking at the Christmas displays and it was completely stress free!

I think anyone who endures all the crowds in December is quite frankly nuts!

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 16:35:41

Usualsuspect3

Of course shops will exploit it, that's exactly my problem. I don't like seeing Christmas stuff in supermarkets in October that will actually reach their sell by date before Christmas.

I personally think it spoils Christmas. It's an opinion.

usualsuspect3 Sat 17-Nov-12 16:37:07

Wouldn't you cash in on the biggest money spinner of the year?

Shops would be fools not too.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 16:38:06

usual

Of course but it doesn't mean I have to support or like it

Guitargirl Sat 17-Nov-12 16:52:53

We have taken the DCs to see Father Christmas already. We go every year to Harrods and get our photo taken with FC - it's become a tradition and we have a photo for every year since our eldest was born. It's quite interesting to see the changes in the DCs' reaction to FC every year (and less interesting to see how DP and I are ageing in every photograph!).

Anyway, why so early? Tickets are released August/Sept time and people get priority booking depending on how many points they have on their Harrods reward card. You have to have a rewards card to book. We are not exactly big spenders in Harrods wink so by the time we are able to book all the December tickets have already gone. This time we went on a school evening, picked DD up from school and went straight there. The toy department was quiet and it was the least stressful visit to FC we have had.

The toys in Harrods are often quite unusual and they have different things then you might see in Argos or Toys r Us so I keep an eye out for things the DCs seem to like to get ideas and then see if I can get the same things cheaper online. So, if it is a money spinner then it doesn't work particularly well!

5madthings Sat 17-Nov-12 17:00:13

i took my dc's to my local garden centre at half term for a halloween celebration they were doing ,they ALSO had an xmas display which my kids loved looking round (sheparding four small children round some breakable xmas decorations aged me ten years!) but they loved it and there was a little bit where you could write a letter to santa and post it, which they did and then you go back in two weeks to pick up your reply smile fab smile plus it was all free, so a great way to spend a day in half term doing something for the children that they enjoyed smile

5madthings Sat 17-Nov-12 17:01:34

and yes i have already done some of my xmas shopping and will do the bulk of it in the next few weeks i dont wnat to be shopping in the middle to end of december,stuff gets sold out, the shops are hideously busy etc, far better to do it in nov and get it out the way then i can relax and enjoy the excitement of the build up to xmas with my children.

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 17:01:41

FromEsme That's great YouOldSlag ...for you. No-one said you can't enjoy Christmas

- but the OP said we can't enjoy Christmas YET. I'm saying to hell with that!

You said there was lots of expensive stuff around, and I said it needn't be expensive.

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 17:04:23

By people buying into the whole Christmas starts in early November the more the shops will do it and the less enjoyment for all.

Bollocks- nobody is spoiling Christmas for anyone.

My kids cope fine with a 6 week run up to the big day and besides, many people Christmas shop well in advance for economical reasons. bring it on I say.

* the less enjoyment for all.*

Honestly!

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 17:04:33

I don't think I ever said it HAD to be expensive.

I don't think the OP said that you CAN'T enjoy Christmas yet. I'm sure she won't come round and tell you not to. I just can't get excited about something that is the same every year and involves people spending shitloads of money. Maybe if I had a family I was close to it would be different, but I can't imagine being excited about something for 2 months every year.

Our town are having the lights turned on Thursday and santas grotto will be opening till late, I may take the dc then as it will be magical with the lights going on at the same time.
We went a a Christmas fayre today which did seem early but got a present which saved me money, had I bought it next week it would of been £40 I got it for £5. grin
Santa was there but we didn't see him today smile

Also we wrote a letter to Santa in the Disney store today, the dc did some colouring and posted their letters. For each letter posted Disney give a soft toy to a childrens charity.
smile

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 17:10:06

FromEsme, my earlier post was actually agreeing with you so I don't know why you're arguing! smile

Yes the OP is saying in lots of different ways that we shouldn't be enjoying Christmas until December. I'm fully aware she is not going to come round my house and take my decorations off me next week.

She is allowed to be all humbug until December. I am allowed to disagree.

Anyway Esme, I have a 3 yo and a 6yo, it is very easy to get excited when the first bauble arrives in the shops. I've waited all my life to enjoy these moments and I will remember them when I am an old lady.

I was excited in August!

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 17:14:19

I just find it hard to get excited about stuff I can buy. It's stuff. Christmas is all about an over-abundance of stuff and I'm sure it depresses more people than it cheers.

Christmas is only about stuff if that is how you make it. Today I spent £5 everything else was free.
We are going to about 7 church Christmas celebration next month too. smile

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 17:18:44

One in three people go into debt over Christmas. Just saying sad

ChestyNutsRoastingAnOpenFire Sat 17-Nov-12 17:22:23

YABU and stupid is a bit harsh hmm

Each to their own, I say....doesn't affect me!

I love Christmas grin

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 17:23:35

To me the over commercialisation for such a long period adds to debt woes for many.

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 17:41:09

BUT OP the earlier you start the less debt you end up in.

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 17:43:33

Do you really think so? I think for a lot of people the earlier they start, the more pointless tat stuff they end up buying. Presumably that's why the shops get everything going before Halloween is over.

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 17:48:22

Depends on the person, If you're a reckless spendthrift, then yes it will end that way.

If you are carefully spreading out your purchases throughout the preceding months, sticking to a list, and seeking out pre Xmas sales and bargains, then no, you needn't find yourself skint in December (or having Crowd Rage and stress)

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 17:49:26

God there are some right miseries on here!

Enjoy Christmas anyway you like and enjoy seeing everyone else enjoy it in their own way too! That's pretty much my only rule for Christmas!

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 17:51:08

Some people are miserable at Christmas. Some people have no friends or family. Some are skint. Some don't get on with their families and are dreading it. Some are far from home or have people they love far from home.

Enjoy Christmas your own way, but don't expect everyone to join in the forced jollity.

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 17:53:10

I'm not, but I won't let anyone rain on my parade either like this thread is trying to do.

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 17:54:37

No-one's trying to piss on your parade. Some just get fed up of Christmas being shoved down our throats. For some people it's just a misery-fest. You get your enjoyment. Why does EVERYONE have to like it?

valiumredhead Sat 17-Nov-12 17:57:04

Why does it matter? You do what you want and let others do as they see fit. No one is stupid hmm

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 18:20:40

Esme, I'm not telling everyone to like it. But I'm not telling everyone they are stupid for doing things too early, like the OP is

Live and let live. I do Christmas my way and I see no reason why to criticise anyone else for doing things their way either. (unlike the OP).

I just think it's a lovely time of year and if people want to take their kids to see Santa in November, then that's great. If not, that's great too. I just don't see it's worth criticising. (unlike the OP)

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 18:21:24

Valiumred

I have explained why it matters several times on here.

valiumredhead Sat 17-Nov-12 18:23:42

No, you have said people are stupid, it's nonsense and it will spoil the enjoyment. It doesn't matter. Don't do it if you don't want to.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 18:36:03

valiumred

I explained my reasoning at 16:29

If you don't agree with it then fine but I HAVE explained.

Sirzy Sat 17-Nov-12 18:37:03

I agree Valium. People are free to celebrate Christmas however they like. To label someone as stupid because they do it differently to you is down right rude.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 18:40:10

Unfortunately it is shoved down EVERYONE's throat whether we like it or not. I have no choice but to walk down the road and see Christmas decorations in October and November. To see chocolate Santas on the shelf whilst going about doing my regular shopping in October no less.

It just dilutes the actual celebration in December for me.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 18:41:03

BTW I haven't labelled people stupid I have said the action is stupid, quite different.

valiumredhead Sat 17-Nov-12 18:41:27

Nope, you have voiced your opinion and expect everyone to agree -which they don't.

I LIKE Christmas starting early - gives me time to spread the cost and get organised. Kids are in school so it's not like they are out shopping every day and seeing the decorations etc.

Sirzy Sat 17-Nov-12 18:41:49

I hate halloween but I don't complain it's "shoved down my throat" I just ignore it.

Learn to ignore things you don't like otherwise life will be one long complaint!

valiumredhead Sat 17-Nov-12 18:42:44

Ignore what is not important to you. And perhaps do your shopping on line so you can't see all the --yummy- chocolate santas?

LineRunner Sat 17-Nov-12 18:43:16

Well in an ideal world it would be lovely if Christmas Evce was the start of the holidays and the Twelve Days of Christmas were the entirety of the festive season, but the last time I tried to buy chocolate tree decorations on Christmas Eve in Asda they had all gone and they were putting out easter eggs. And last posting dates seem to come ever earlier in December.

So Christmas has been 'brought forward' by its commercialisation, yes; but the culprits are the big businesses, not people who just want a little sparkle in their lives in the middle of winter.

Sirzy Sat 17-Nov-12 18:43:18

What makes it stupid? Just because it's not how you choose to do things doesn't make it wrong or stupid just different.

Why does how anyone else wants to spend their time or money bother you so much?

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 18:45:26

Valiumred

Yes, I have voiced an opinion, absolutely, and have given reasons to which you replied "why does it matter to you" I replied that I had already explained why it mattered to me.

No I haven't expected everyone to agree at all.

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 18:48:25

A wee bit easier to ignore Halloween than to ignore Christmas. You'd have to walk around with your eyes closed to not notice it's Christmas.

All the people who're saying don't let it bother you - ok, why not just let people moaning not bother you? If you don't like people moaning about Christmas, just don't open the thread. It works both ways.

shellyf Sat 17-Nov-12 18:51:59

We don't start doing Christmas things till December.Everyone is different in their approach and I respect that.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 18:57:56

Sirzy.

I think it's stupid because parents do it on the idea that it's great for the kids to start early but I actually think it dilutes the excitement for them.

I think extending Christmas to early/mid November makes it less special and more commercial.

I think less is more, I think good things come to those that wait. I think the great things in life are better in moderation.

Sirzy Sat 17-Nov-12 18:59:06

Supermarkets are full of Halloween from September, valentines from January. It's not limited to Christmas for the overkill!

Ignore what you don't like, enjoy what you do. People enjoying things you don't like in this sense is rarely going to harm anyone else!

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 19:00:23

Oh balls, Christmas is way more overkill than Halloween or Valentines day.

Sirzy Sat 17-Nov-12 19:01:07

I am yet to meet any child who has had their excitement diluted by chiristmas starting "early"

In fact with schools rehearsing for plays and planning Christmas fayres and other things even if parents don't start it it has normally started earlier than December anyway.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 19:01:46

I don't recall hearing Valentines or Halloween music in every store months before the event.

Sirzy Sat 17-Nov-12 19:01:54

Not in shops it isn't. Only difference is that town centres don't fill with lights and Santas. Shops still go OTT with it

FromEsme Sat 17-Nov-12 19:03:53

Really? I've never seen the Halloween department in Debenhams or the Valentines floor of Selfridges. The Halloween tunes must have passed me buy. The adverts on telly to tell me to buy up pumpkins NOW.

Clearly I've been living in a dream.

mumsfretter Sat 17-Nov-12 19:04:14

You have a point Sirzy regarding school plays. At least they tend to actually tell the real story and sentiment of Christmas though and don't tend to be sponsored by Coca Cola grin

LineRunner Sat 17-Nov-12 19:05:46

Sirzy has a good point about schools. If their Christmas events and services are in early-mid December, as many of them are, then the children will have been rehearsing Christmas carols and songs and poems from November.

Agent64 Sun 18-Nov-12 16:15:15

I agree with a lot of what FromEsme says.

FWIW I enjoy Christmas, but nothing Christmas related is allowed in our house before December. It starts with the advent calendar and builds from there.

I don't like a lot of the excess and pressure to spend. It's not something people should get into debt for.

Filibear Sun 18-Nov-12 16:19:10

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mam29 Sun 18-Nov-12 16:22:19

Lol had to chuckle at this rang john lewis last week to book tea with santa its running 4consecutive fridays in restaurant prebook/ticket only limited numbers and its 30nov 3.30 or 5pm but due to school 5pm fills up fast.

Was told ohh you so lucky places filling up fast, next year ring in october some people ring us in august!

A lot of school xmas fairs are end of november.
We went to dds yesetrday there was santa, saw few kids with crap looking pressies and thourght save myself a fiver as jl santa is pricey side.

I do have middle dds fair to go to and she has end of yrem party with a santa but both are cheap and in dec.

TrudiRed Sun 18-Nov-12 17:40:32

I've booked for my 3 children to see Father Christmas next Sat. In our home town the lights are switched on this weekend and Father Christmas and his reindeer as well as other attractions will be in town. Yes its money making. Yes its probably too early but its really the only time its possible to see him round here as there are very few grottos around. In any case my kids think they are going to see if they are on his good behaviour list (which can be changed before the big day if behaviour slips) and make their requests for a gift they would like. They need to see him now so that he has time to get it if he feels it is appropriate. My children are 8, 6 and 2. The older 2 are already doing things at school and the little one has no concept of time anyway so a week or a month until the big day really makes no difference. There are plenty of things going on with the 2 schools and various clubs too. No harm done imo. Having said that we don't decorate until after 9th Dec as that's DD's birthday and we like to keep it separate from Christmas for her. Each to their own as usual. Who cares what anyone else does??

BarredfromhavingStella Sun 18-Nov-12 17:45:35

I have just seen my 1st trimmed up house shock

Mousefunk Sun 18-Nov-12 17:55:41

I think its way way too early to be visiting FC. He arrived in our town today and there was a queue out of the door, so many people they had to close the grotto early because they couldn't cope with how many there were!! FC is for December.. Obviously not many people agree though!

Well considering English Heritage were only doing 'Christmas at Osborne' this weekend we didn't get much choice.

It's not happening any nearer to Chrimbo.

But the actual proper 'Santa Meet' is on 22 Dec. More to your liking?

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