to find this vegetarian menu option rather uninspiring?

(249 Posts)
Melpomene Thu 15-Nov-12 19:23:20

Our family are going to stay in a hotel tomorrow night. A relatively smart place, with a spa and a '2AA rosette award winning River Room Restaurant'. The dds and I are vegetarian, so I had a look at the hotel's menu on their website. The options for main course include:

- Line caught skate wing pan fried with capers, lemon, nut brown butter - £17 (sounds nice if you eat fish)

- Roast cornfed chicken breast, sage, onion, bread sauce - £15 (sounds nice if you eat chicken)

- Plate of carrots (vegetarian) - £12.95 hmm

To be fair, they do also have a tomato risotto - but on what planet does a 'plate of carrots' count as a main course? And how can you justify charging £12.95 for it?

I think we'll be visiting a restaurant in the town instead.

Sunnywithachanceofshowers Thu 15-Nov-12 19:26:01

Plate of carrots? That's beyond awful.

noodleone Thu 15-Nov-12 19:26:22

Vegetarian option is always risotto if it's posh. Goats cheese tart for middle of the road aces and pasta bake if it's a pub. That seems to be rule!

VivaLeBeaver Thu 15-Nov-12 19:26:53

That's terrible. I'd be tempted to tell them. Even tomato risotto is a bit of a crap choice.

Thats so funny!

KatzGold Thu 15-Nov-12 19:29:07

Noodleone - you forgot the veggie all time classic of mushroom straganoff

TiggyD Thu 15-Nov-12 19:29:40

Maybe they just don't want to cater for vegetarians?

CharlotteBronteSaurus Thu 15-Nov-12 19:30:30

that's so unbelievably crap that I didn't believe you until I googled!
please accept my apologies for questioning your honest nature.

Chopchopbusybusy Thu 15-Nov-12 19:30:40

I think someone has been taking the piss and forgotten to delete it. I would be incredibly disappointed with tomato risotto as well though. I'd phone them tonight and ask for an alternative to be available.

SarkyWench Thu 15-Nov-12 19:31:04

Pmsl smile

AndMiffyWentToSleep Thu 15-Nov-12 19:31:57

noodle yes risotto or something with goats cheese seem to be standard options round my way - it does my head in!

But a plate of carrots? Seriously? Yeesh!

Plate of carrots shock

Unless the plate is made from carrots and has loads of Fat Duck style carrot mini-dishes on or something?

ohmeohmy Thu 15-Nov-12 19:34:10

Bet Heston thought of that.

ceeveebee Thu 15-Nov-12 19:37:17

Maybe it's like 'carrot three ways', roast, mashed and gratin

Melpomene Thu 15-Nov-12 19:38:44

Yes, it could be some sort of selection of carrot dishes. Still not very appealing though.

Or maybe it is some sort of Christmas joke and they're pretending it's a menu option for visiting reindeer?

That's hardly a meal! Absolutely no protein for a veggie. You'll be starving again in an hour.

RedZombie Thu 15-Nov-12 19:40:08

My DS would pick that if it was in the menu, he loves carrots.

ceeveebee Thu 15-Nov-12 19:41:38

I was on a work trip once in the Alsace region of France and there was a big dinner with traditional food - sausages, sauerkraut etc. the vege option was just a plate of cabbage!!

EuroShagmore Thu 15-Nov-12 19:41:44

In light of the price, I would hope they would be gold plated carrots....

Melpomene Thu 15-Nov-12 19:47:57

24 carat carrots?

NinaHeart Thu 15-Nov-12 19:49:11

That is unbelievably bad. Surely it HAS to be a joke? Am gobsmacked at their audacity.

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman Thu 15-Nov-12 19:49:27

Are they expecting an influx of rabbits?

ihavenofuckingclue Thu 15-Nov-12 20:25:35

That's horrendous.

My local steak house has better options than that.

That's dreadful.

They can't even be bothered to give it a fancy title like carrot d'orange or les petite carrots sur la plate.

DangerousMouse Thu 15-Nov-12 20:32:17

That's so awful it's funny! Link and shame OP

toofattorun Thu 15-Nov-12 20:32:57

Plate of carrots? I'm veggie and would have to phone them up and ask what the hell that is when it's at home.

AnnIonicIsoTronic Thu 15-Nov-12 20:36:22

It'll be a 'carrot three ways' type of thing for sure.

MotherfuckingMorrisMan Thu 15-Nov-12 20:39:27

That is really funny. It must be a joke, surely.

bedmonster Thu 15-Nov-12 20:40:42

'Plate of Carrots' - please order this, I will send you the money, I just want to see what the bloody thing looks like - I just cannot believe that it is a plate with carrots on it. confused

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Thu 15-Nov-12 20:41:03

Reminds me of when I went to Austria and the veggie option that night was fried cauliflower. I ordered it thinking it can't just be fried cauliflower - wrong entire plate was covered in the stuff and nothing else. hmm

toofattorun Thu 15-Nov-12 20:41:32

You could google it like I did ;-)

RubyGates Thu 15-Nov-12 20:41:44

Have you noticed they "respectively" suggest patrons don't use their mobile phones in the dining room.

Perhaps you could respectively suggest they stick their carrots where the sun don't shine. grin

emsyj Thu 15-Nov-12 20:42:21

I was once presented with a fabulous vegetarian main course at a posh dinner function (had paid £50 for the ticket) - consisting of lettuce and tomatoes with a spoonful of ratatouille in the centre.

It doesn't beat the vegetarian option that I was served at a slightly dodgy venue the year before last - a dried up nut roast with two pigs in blankets on the side...

Ring them up and ask them what the 'plate of carrots' is, I'm dying to know now!

docsarah Thu 15-Nov-12 20:43:05

I'm a lifelong vegetarian here and have long since ceased to be surprised at what passes for vegetarian options at so-called posh restaurants. Opinions of the chef usually plummet if they can't be arsed to come up with something half decent - what effort do they put into the rest of their food?

Also, let's not forget the favourite of risotto/pasta with potatoes. Especially common at Christmas dinners/weddings. Urgh.

neolara Thu 15-Nov-12 20:44:18

I would phone and ask them what it is.

My dh and I were planning to go to a very smart restaurant. The veggie option was "platter of vegetables", which obviously sounded completely crap compared to all the fabulous meat options. My dh sent an email to complain and the restaurant rang him back about 5 mins later to explain that the platter was actually about 15 mini dishes - quiche, quails egg, stuffed peppers etc. We risked it, and the food was phenomenal. So you could be lucky....

On the other hand, a couple of years ago we went to another very smart restaurant - one level down from a michelin star. The veggie option was
pesto and pasta with a poached egg on top. They were very snooty with me when I asked, disbelievingly if that really was the only veggie food available.

emsyj Thu 15-Nov-12 20:47:21

DH and I stayed at a veh fancy hotel a while ago and there were no veggie options on the menu at all. However, when we asked, the very lovely waiter brought a WHOLE MENU just of veggie stuff. That's what we like - a dedicated veggie menu, not just one poxy dish!

fallingsun Thu 15-Nov-12 20:48:15

I googled too, its terrible!maybe we should all email and complain, must be a joke?!

toofattorun Thu 15-Nov-12 20:54:52

Should we?

DangerousMouse Thu 15-Nov-12 20:55:03

What on earth did you google to find out which hotel it is? 'Plate of carrots?'

MotherfuckingMorrisMan Thu 15-Nov-12 20:56:15

River room restaurant - second one down on google.

I really doubt it is something like 'carrots three ways' a la Blumenthal. It looks like a bog standard restaurant menu, not a gastronomic place.

It must have been someone having a joke and they haven't proofed it.

DangerousMouse Thu 15-Nov-12 20:57:25

Oh my.. I've found it! Tomato jelly? that sounds icky as well, the chef sure doesn't like vegetarians.

GinGirl Thu 15-Nov-12 20:59:38

We went to a very nice restaurant for Christmas lunch with MIL, BIL and his wife, her parents and her brother. My DH is vegetarian and his meal was vegetable soup to start, with a main of vegetable broth with dumplings, actually dumpling singular. It was so atrocious that I complained and got the cost of his meal removed from the bill.

We agreed never again to risk Christmas at a restaurant, its not hard to create delicious/different vegetarian food!

Want to see the plate of carrots though, sounds hilarious!

HazeltheMcWitch Thu 15-Nov-12 21:01:01

I went to a very swanky/cool restaurant in Paris, and eventually got... a Pyrex of microwaved veg.

And flying from Mexico to US (Mexican airline) I had pre-requested a veggie meal and was delighted to receive a plain chicken breast. Literally nothing else!

toofattorun Thu 15-Nov-12 21:01:12

That's why I stick to Zizzi's and my fav Greek restaurant!

NorbertDentressangle Thu 15-Nov-12 21:03:36

I had to google too.

DP reckons that someone was taking the piss and it wasn't spotted.

We had a friend who once wrote "blah-de-blah....some ol' bollocks here" on a draft leaflet. Unfortunately whoever had the job of proof-reading it before it went to the printers didn't do their job properly...... Ooops

aufaniae Thu 15-Nov-12 21:03:53

Must be a joke, surely?!!

Melpomene Thu 15-Nov-12 21:04:55

grin at some of these replies. If I get the chance I shall pop in and ask them about it (and give them some feedback!). But it's not very likely we'll eat there now - the hotel is in the city centre and there are lots of other restaurants a stone's throw away.

Link is here if anyone hasn't found it.

NorbertDentressangle Thu 15-Nov-12 21:06:08

emsyj - was that a Michael Caines restaurant/ Abode Hotel by any chance as I had that when I went to one and it was fantastic!

VivaLeBeaver Thu 15-Nov-12 21:07:19

I think I'd go for a few side dishes instead. Chips, onion rings and creamed leeks sounds better and cheaper.

I was just thinking that Viva grin

I'd be happy with a big pile of mashed potato and gravy.

MissPricklePants Thu 15-Nov-12 21:09:36

Oh I didn't believe it was just plate of carrots until I read it! Please order it and take a photo to put on here!!

emsyj Thu 15-Nov-12 21:10:42

No it wasn't Norbert, it was the Royal Crescent in Bath. There is an Abode quite near us though and I have heard great reports about the food there!

Reading the menu I come round to not the proofreading theory - I bet you 'Rosary goat's cheese' is actually rosemary, and I think 'sour dough' is meant to be sour dough bread (I hope, anyway). They've got a few more typos/errors too.

I love the idea of 'plate of carrots' though. grin

DH is veggie/no dairy a lot of the time, and it really makes me notice how many places think 'veggie' means 'eats cheese: there must be cheese!'

Mspontipine Thu 15-Nov-12 21:12:19

i can't breathe!!!!!!!!!

exexpat Thu 15-Nov-12 21:16:30

Sounds to me like the chef's way of saying, "piss off, I can't be bothered cooking for anyone who doesn't want a big hunk of meat or fish". But I would love to hear what they say if you go in and ask about it.

I think more restaurants ought to realise that by offering crap, boring veggie options they not only put off vegetarians themselves but also the other people they are eating with. I've lost count of the times when I have been part of a group including both vegetarians and omnivores, and the veggies have taken one look at the menu, seen butternut squash risotto and/or something involving goats cheese and have instantly vetoed the place.

Arcticwaffle Thu 15-Nov-12 21:17:10

Once on a 10 hr overnight KLM flight I was given, as the vegetarian breakfast option, a hot bread roll + a cold bread roll, + a bit of jam. No butter. No eggs, tomato, mushroom, nothing else. Everyone else had loads of hot breakfast.

Mspontipine Thu 15-Nov-12 21:19:10


Who checked this bloody menu.

Someone's put that and forgotten to delete it. You're probably damned lucky it wasn't an exasperated sounding plate of fucking carrots or something


VivaLeBeaver Thu 15-Nov-12 21:21:54

I think the whole menu sounds fairly crap.

NorbertDentressangle Thu 15-Nov-12 21:22:08

We have to book a table of 20 for us MN veggies, turn up, peruse the menu for ages and then all each order (with deadly serious faces) the Plate of Carrots


SantasComingFace Thu 15-Nov-12 21:25:19

I love the bit at the bottom where it says about how the description does not always list all ingredients and to ask if you have any allergies. Please please ask if that can be done with out the carrots!

Come to ours Melpo - we live near where you are staying and are a veggie household and I am a pretty good cook - won't charge £12.95 for our carrots either!grin

Have walked past The Swan and wondered how good the food would be (it is a nice setting) - will probably give it a miss now hmm

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Thu 15-Nov-12 21:30:52

£5.55 for a boiled egg!

I have just fallen about laughing, as that is where I went for my leaver's ball when I left school grin I can't remember the food being particularly nice then 12 years ago hmm
You're right, OP, there are plenty of other places to eat nearby smile

EcoLady Thu 15-Nov-12 21:35:53

Oddest veggie meal I ever had was a leek and banana bake ... confused

I would have preferred prefer the carrots!

VivaLeBeaver Thu 15-Nov-12 21:36:15

Can someone please email them and ask if the carrots are boiled or roasted? grin

thenightsky Thu 15-Nov-12 21:37:53

Oh PLEASE someone go and order the carrot-as-main-course! There has to be more to this story.

specialgrilledvegetables Thu 15-Nov-12 21:39:45

I once went to a 'proper' restaurant in Italy (the kind where pasta is a separate course before a plate full of meat as the main course) with a group of work colleagues. Myself and one of the other girls didn't eat red meat so ordered chicken or fish (no veggie option). V charming Italian owner came over to tell us that there was no chicken or fish left so asked if would we like to order something else off the menu instead. There was only red meat or veal so we politely declined and asked if they could make anything vegetarian. He went to have a word with the chef and came back full of smooth Italian charm describing the delicious special grilled vegetables which they would make just for us. He was so utterly charming and made this dish sound so amazing that we ordered it and even some of the meat-eaters seemed jealous of the specially prepared feast just for us. Well everyone else got their steak or veal and we got ........ a plate with 3 thin slices of chargrilled vegetables - one slice of chargrilled courgette, one slice of chargrilled aubergine and one slice of chargrilled carrot all drizzled with olive oil. hmm We found it hilarious until we got the bill and found we had been charged the same price as for a steak - about £25! shock

lozster Thu 15-Nov-12 21:40:27

Ha! I stayed here and ate in the bar - had to combine starters! The little pool is nice though.

I flew KLM business from south east Asia and got served rice (no sauce) with three mange tout on top. After a touch down in kuala lumpor it was time to eat again - ta da! Rice, no sauce and 3 mange tout. Yum!

blanksquit Thu 15-Nov-12 21:43:52

That's so funny. Sounds a bit like they haven't decided the vegetarian option and were meaning to put it in afterwards.

McChristmasPants2012 Thu 15-Nov-12 21:45:49

no dessert menu, perhaps you could have carrot cake lol

Katiekitty Thu 15-Nov-12 21:46:09

And the Plate of Carrots is £12.95.
How can this be? confused

squeakytoy Thu 15-Nov-12 21:46:36

The fact that they cannot even spell appetiser would put me off.

Saralyn Thu 15-Nov-12 21:46:49

You should all go to India (ok, not a cheap option, but maybe some Indian restaurants in Uk offers the same) there it is common that a restaurant menu starts off with three pages of Vegetarian dishes, followed by two pages headed "Non-vegetarian dishes".

My ex is a vegetarian and I remember him telling me of some interesting meals he has been presented with, including pizza with Brussel sprouts.

I once worked with a cook who asked me to put out the vegetarian alternative to the starter oxtail soup. It was plain meat bullion! When I said to her that I didn't think the vegetarians would eat that she replied "do you think they're that strict?"

RuleBritannia Thu 15-Nov-12 21:48:56

Surely, that Stoneaway Black Pudding shold be Stornaway black pudding?

RuleBritannia Thu 15-Nov-12 21:52:33

And tartare sauce instead of tartar sauce.

Frankly, it looks as if furriners have drawn up this menu. Well, the menu you read rather than the one you eat.

ceeveebee Thu 15-Nov-12 21:59:31

Tempted to email the restaurant with a link to this thread but they might work out who melpomene is and spit in all her food...

Rest assured the cattle on their steak menu were content & grass fed.

I hope the carrots had a happy life.

stubbornstains Thu 15-Nov-12 22:03:41

Oh yes saralyn, I was grin in India to see that it's meat eaters who are the inferior beings over there.......Lovely feeling.

tethersend Thu 15-Nov-12 22:04:05

When I was vegetarian, we went for a meal in France- the meat-eaters had some sort of stroganoff with rice- the vegetarian option was a piece of cheese. With rice, of course.

NorbertDentressangle Thu 15-Nov-12 22:08:28

tethersend - we went to a very 'naice' restaurant in Ile de Re for a family celebration and notified them in advance that there was a vegetarian ( in the party.

The main course was a plate of veg, drizzled in olive oil with huge chunks of sea salt on hmm. Bloody £££££s too!

Hahaha, that is the weirdest veggie option I've ever seen!

tethersend Thu 15-Nov-12 22:10:46

Norbert grin Having been there, I can well believe it.

Nobodythatyouwouldknow Thu 15-Nov-12 22:12:11

grin grin grin

Please do order and take a photo! DC2 would be in heaven with a plate of carrots, however at £12.95 I would not! shock I'd be pretty stuck with that menu but would settle for the risotto but am completely put off by the sound tomato jelly, bleurghk hmm

OpheliaBumps Thu 15-Nov-12 22:15:34

Haha did anyone else spot the 'rosary' Goat's cheese brulee, I so want to try that, or is it just for catholics? grin

Mind you, the 'appeRtisers' sound pretty good too.

VivaLeBeaver Thu 15-Nov-12 22:17:33

Carrot soup
Plate of carrots
Carrot cake

And a glass of carrot juice please.

FeckOffWithYourXmasBollocks Thu 15-Nov-12 22:19:07

hmm confused grin

Swanhotel Thu 15-Nov-12 22:22:58

Dear mumsnetters,

Our attention has been brought to this thread. I'm very saddened to read such disparaging remarks about our restaurant.

I would like to assure you that the dish of a plate of carrots is a favourite with vegetarians and we have received many compliments about this dish. It is not a plate of plain boiled carrots. They are dutch carrots roasted in balsamic vinegar and brown sugar and are delicious. We feel the price is a fair price for the quality of the food.


ScaryHairyMcSweary Thu 15-Nov-12 22:26:17

Swanhotel what about the Rosary Goats cheese?

Nobodythatyouwouldknow Thu 15-Nov-12 22:27:18

Ophelia I'd be worried I'd chip a tooth grin

I'd so love to see the look on the waiters face 'I'll have the plate of carrots please.....'

Swanhotel Thu 15-Nov-12 22:29:29

Rosary goats cheese is a brand of goats cheese produced at The Rosary in landford. One of our many excellent, locally sourced ingredients.

Swanhotel Thu 15-Nov-12 22:30:22


shock really?

Which one of you name changed, it has to be a misunderstanding surely?

grin grin Swanhotel
and Gwendoline "plate of fucking carrots" grin

oh well, if they're Dutch carrots....

shock we're peasants! Oh my, we're bloody commoners!

OpheliaBumps Thu 15-Nov-12 22:34:17

Oh I'm sorry to be rude about the carrot but it still doesn't excuse the appertisers and Stoneaway balck pudding.

Ps am i the only one who wonders if a dutch carrot is a relative of the camberwell carrot, well it is one of the things the dutch are famous for after all?

We have to go for a restaurant for balsamic vinegar and foreign carrots. It's just too posh for us.

OpheliaBumps Thu 15-Nov-12 22:35:33

Must proof read. Rude about the rosary, and black pudding, not balck.

exexpat Thu 15-Nov-12 22:35:59

Waitrose has Rosary goats cheese! (scroll down)

But I still don't buy the 'plate of carrots' thing.

Peevish Thu 15-Nov-12 22:36:02

Swanhotel, are you for real? I'm a lifelong vegetarian and happen to have had roast organic carrots and parsnips with balsamic vinegar and herbs for dinner tonight - a normal Thursday night at home, eaten in pyjamas while feeding my baby. It was lovely, but takes no skill to make, and is not approaching anything I would pay £17.50 for in a restaurant!

Lazy, lazy vegetarian cooking. We're not soft in the head, you know. And we can always wander down to Demuths, so anyone trying to attract vegetarians in your neck of the woods needs to pull their socks up.

QueenStromba Thu 15-Nov-12 22:36:57

There's no way that's actually the Swan Hotel.

Peevish Thu 15-Nov-12 22:37:19

Ah, you're not for real. Duh, should have refreshed before posting.

I still bet my plate of carrots was superior. grin

May I also add: parsnips and carrots roasted in maple syrup are far superior to those roasted in balsamic vinegar. HTH

But I need to know whether the carrots were happy !!


Peevish Thu 15-Nov-12 22:44:54

Tess, they probably had a rich inner life and were humanely slaughtered.

To be honest, carrots (even Dutch ones roasted and drizzled with balsamic vinegar) sounds like a side dish rather than a main course. I'd be disappointed because it really is just a plate of carrots pretending to be a bit fancy. And I would not be impressed that it was £13 either.

Nobodythatyouwouldknow Thu 15-Nov-12 22:56:05

Ok so if we accept you are the Swan Hotel and the carrots are a delicious dish why isn't a proper description given as per the other menu items (except Shepherds pie, pretty self explanatory!) You cannot be surprised by the reaction here given you are offering a plate of carrots for £12.95!

I still think a plate of dutch carrots roasted in balsamic vinegar and brown sugar is extortionate, especially having lived in the Netherlands where Dutch carrots were .... like English carrots! confused

ScaryHairyMcSweary Thu 15-Nov-12 22:56:46

I feel very stupid now about the Catholic cheese blush

Silibilimili Thu 15-Nov-12 22:58:02

Enjoyed this thread.

In Switzerland, when I asked for some pasta with vegetable (as there was no vegetarian option on the menu), I have been given plain boiled pasta with a boiled carrot and boiled potato on the side.

In Argentina, when I asked for a pizza margarita, the chef added anchovies to the pizza which came 40mins later. I sent it back. After another 20 mins wait, they sent it back. It took them 20 mins to pick off the anchovies one by one!

In Greece, we had ham served on our vegetarian bruschetta.

The only place I have eaten a great vege meal in Europe is Amsterdam in a rijsttafel (rice table) restaurant. Gosh I still remember that meal. Yummy.

Vivalebeaver Thu 15-Nov-12 22:59:56

Not sure if its still the same but 20plus years ago a vegiburger in a French McDonald's was a normal hamburger with the burger removed.

ChablisLover Thu 15-Nov-12 23:00:16

Mel- are you in Northern Ireland?

If so, I have inkling of where you are going


But the grill bar is equally as uninspiring for veggies

CaseyShraeger Thu 15-Nov-12 23:06:38

Once when I was at college, the vegetarian option was a jacket potato, with a side of jacket potato. They must have assumed that vegetarians really liked jacket potato...

extremepie Thu 15-Nov-12 23:16:01

Had to post on this thread - as a chef it is right up my alley!

I'm not a veggie but some of my very close friends are and I hate to think that if they wanted to go out for dinner their only option would be a 'plate of carrots', even if they are in balsamic!!

Just out of curiosity, what would you like to see as a veggie option on a menu? At the restaurant I am working in we are trying to come up with a new veggie special (at the moment it is tomato and paprika quorn with mixed veg cous cous) and I really want to steer clear of the default veggie options of goats cheese, risotto, some kind of veggie tart, soup, cheese jacket/baguette etc but I don't know what to put on!

Any ideas?

That menu is really sloppy, it couldn't take a lot of effort to make the food sound a whole lot nicer and the prices!!!! shock

IMO, that is just greed, a tomato risotto probably costs less than £3 to make and they are selling it for that!

extremepie: I like pie actually, DP and I make a roasted sweet vegetable pie with leftovers from our roast dinners. One of my favourites!

crunchbag Thu 15-Nov-12 23:23:45

Ah the famous Dutch carrot, surely to make it more authentic you should mash it up with potato and onions for a more substantial meal called 'hutspot'

Vivalebeaver Thu 15-Nov-12 23:24:20

Extremepie, Dh is vegi and would hate to see quorn on the menu. A lot of Vegis don't like meat substitutes. I've eaten quorn and its fairly grim, but not just from a taste point of view. Vegetarians may be repulsed by eating something that is close in looks / texture to meat.

A good veg curry is always appreciated.

Lots of good recipes here

BreconBeBuggered Thu 15-Nov-12 23:25:45

Yes, a nice veggie pie, maybe something like mushrooms and baby onions in a red wine sauce for the cheese haters? Something that can be served with proper hot vegetables on a winter's night instead of a plate of chilly salad leaves <greedy>
No no and no again to the quorn.

BreconBeBuggered Thu 15-Nov-12 23:28:02

Casey, much as I love the plate of carrots, your baked potato served with a baked potato is my favourite dish on this thread. So thoughtful.

extremepie Thu 15-Nov-12 23:28:19

Thanks viva, I'm not a fan of quorn myself but my boss put it on the menu!

I love veg curry so would be happy for an excuse to make it :D

Sweet potatoes are lovely, we have sweet potato fries as well as normal fries and I always try to nick a few if I can!

Vivalebeaver Thu 15-Nov-12 23:30:59

And the female chef who did that Mexican. Book?? Thomasina someone?

Did a fab Mexican veg chili with banana and apple in it.

exexpat Thu 15-Nov-12 23:40:05

Curries are good, but there are a surprising number of people who don't like them. Also no thanks to quorn in restaurants. I'd prefer to see something imaginative with vegetables, maybe the kind of thing that's too fiddly to make at home very often, eg something like parsnip roulade ( there are various recipes around on the Internet), a vegetable & chickpea tagine, something interesting with wild mushrooms (ie not risotto). Maybe look at the menus of award-winning vegetarian restaurants like Cafe Maitreya (Bristol) or Demuths (Bath) for inspiration?

Chopchopbusybusy Thu 15-Nov-12 23:40:25

Each to their own but I like quorn. My favourite chinese restaurant has quorn on the menu as well as tofu - which I'm less keen on - and lots of veggie dishes which I like to include with the quorn (dds are vegetarian too).

exexpat Thu 15-Nov-12 23:46:29

Actually, thinking more about curries - I can't remember having a decent curry ever that wasn't in an Indian restaurant. Veggie curries in pub are uniformly awful, in my experience - gloopy, bland, with horrible Uncle Ben's-style rice, usually. I'd always prefer to go somewhere proper.

Of course it depends what's on the rest of your menu, but I think it would be better to offer a veggie option more in keeping with the rest of your style, whether it's British, modern European or whatever.

You can work wonders with lentils (puy [french] and green ones) and make some great gourmet dinners with them.

ChippingInLovesAutumn Fri 16-Nov-12 00:30:15

Who else is going to ring them tomorrow and 'enquire' about their vegetarian options?

We really need to - they shouldn't be allowed to get away with this dire offereing.

Isandri Fri 16-Nov-12 06:20:01

One of the restaurants near my patents "the raglan arms" often has imam bayildi as the veggie option. It tastes amazing. If anyone is near s.west Wales it's worth going. The menu changes every 1-2 weeks.

ErikNorseman Fri 16-Nov-12 06:45:15

Ridiculous! The most delicious carrots in the world would still not constitute a meal. Where is the carbohydrate and protein? And the variety? I like carrots but would be utterly bored by a whole plate of them. And £12.95 for carrots? Taking the absolute piss.

PseudoBadger Fri 16-Nov-12 07:27:31

That's not the real Swanhotel posting - the spelling is too good grin (in my respective opinion wink)

AnnIonicIsoTronic Fri 16-Nov-12 09:30:44

I had the pret falafel & halloumi wrap for lunch. OK, it's a sandwich - but the ideas could turn it into a dinner dish. They really raised it up a notch by putting in a mango chutney and roasted pepper, so you had a lot of sweet/salty dry/moist contrasts going on.

toofattorun Fri 16-Nov-12 09:32:40

If it really was the Swan Hotel, I would ask them why they were boasting about their locally sourced Rosary Goats Cheese when they import their sodding carrots from the Netherlands!

ToffeeCaramel Fri 16-Nov-12 09:37:00

I think it's a mistake. The risotto is the veggy option

Look at how they've spelt Appetisers too.
Could you have some wafer thin ham? wink

ToffeeCaramel Fri 16-Nov-12 09:45:11

The most delicious carrots in the world would still not constitute a meal. Where is the carbohydrate and protein? And the variety?


Trills Fri 16-Nov-12 09:53:08

Are they purple carrots?

samandi Fri 16-Nov-12 10:14:33

Surely someone would have pointed it out by now if it was a mistake. Pretty dire.

stubbornstains Fri 16-Nov-12 10:28:55

Melanzane parmigiana with shit-hot roast potatoes....mmm..

Or a plate with, for example, falafel, spanakopitta, baba ganoush...

My favourite cuisine, by a country mile, is Greek/ Turkish/ Middle Eastern. Loads of inspiration for vegetarians.

stubbornstains Fri 16-Nov-12 10:33:05

I agree with not including quorn on a restaurant menu, too. It's what you eat at home because it's cheap and easy.

TheBigJessie Fri 16-Nov-12 10:41:34


Best MN name change ever!

extremepie Can I suggest you ask your boss to send you on a fact-finding mission to L'Arpege in Paris? They do some amazing things with vegetables and are sure to provide lots of inspiration.

fallingsun Fri 16-Nov-12 11:11:25

Has anyone phoned the restaurant to see what the plate of carrots is?

I would but I'm a chicken

ouryve Fri 16-Nov-12 11:15:11

AnnIonic - Pret do some fab veggie sarnies, don't they? I'm not veggie, but I love my vegetables and I had a lovely sarnie with some really huge chunks of harissa roasted vegetables in, the other week. It was so tasty.

And if a sandwich shop can churn out something so lovely for £3, I should think a restaurant could produce something better than a plate of carrots for £13. I scrape together better lunches using the ageing contents of my veg drawer.

stleger Fri 16-Nov-12 11:33:38

Any chef looking for ideas should try Cafe Paradiso recipes. And avoid penne pasta in our special rich tomato sauce, or stir fried vegetables with soya sauce on them smile

Just getting on this thread...I may call the restaurant
Also googling demuth s, has a lot of recommendations on this thread

DozyDuck Fri 16-Nov-12 11:48:26

This is too funny!!!

JugglingWithPossibilities Fri 16-Nov-12 12:04:10

We once went to Quaglino's for a family party. The vegetarian choice consisted of plain noodles for first course, followed by plain spaghetti for main. Seriously, it was over ten years ago, but I distinctly remember there was no sauce and very little flavour with either dish. I don't think they like vegetarians !
Poor attitude sad

shesariver Fri 16-Nov-12 12:05:50

My favourite typo on a menu was what was supposedly delicious cumberland sausges served with mash - only it said "mush". Didnt fancy that much grin

JessieMcJessie Fri 16-Nov-12 12:21:54

I am outside the UK so can't do it myself but someone PLEASE call the restaurant and report back!

boomting Fri 16-Nov-12 16:23:17

That's pretty grim! Honestly, in 10 years of vegetarianism I've never seen anything quite that bad (with the possible exception of taramasalata appearing on the "veggie" section of the menu!)

ohmeohmy Fri 16-Nov-12 16:54:47

Wouldn't ever order quorn in a restaurant don't eat it at home either. For inspiration for good veg dishes take a look at books: Plenty and Veggistan. For easy veg go try food at Mildreds. For so et ing posh go to Vanilla Black. It is not difficult but need some proper protein... Think pulses not processed stuff.

think I might suggest plate of carrots as my Xmas dinner option at the inlays.

Enfyshedd Fri 16-Nov-12 17:10:34

Just looked at the steak menu myself - you have to pay extra for the potato (chips), salad & side options!!! confused You have to pay for the chips!

TiggyD Fri 16-Nov-12 17:21:00

At least they don't serve the carrots in a bucket. That's at least 2 stars from me.

TiggyD Fri 16-Nov-12 17:21:44
StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Fri 16-Nov-12 18:39:56

For the menu... any roasted and stuffed veg works well covered in mozzarella, Homity pie is another fave here as is a veggie sausage casserole with butter beans served in a big yorkshire pud. puff pastry topped in roasted veg and cheese looks yummy and is well tasty as an alternative to a tart.

Namechangeforapropertythread Fri 16-Nov-12 19:09:42

Did anyone ask? Can someone please please ask on their facebook page please...

TiggyD Fri 16-Nov-12 19:16:08

I can't ask. I'm keeping my Facebook identity a secret from all the mumsnet weirdos.

Melpomene Fri 16-Nov-12 19:41:58

OP here. I peeked into the hotel restaurant earlier this evening; it was deserted so I picked up a menu to check, and the menu was indeed the same as the one on the website, with 'plate of carrots' for £12.95. There were two waitresses chatting on the other side of the restaurant but they ignored me!

We then went to a nearby restaurant called Spaghetti John's, which had a choice of 5 or 6 vegetarian main courses and some truly spectacular raspberry sorbet.

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 19:49:59

shock I just twigged. I've been to this hotel before YEARS ago. I did a corporate acting gig there. I am afraid to say that I did not get a chance to eat in the restaurant but I think they DID lay on a buffet for us which was ok.

Shame about the menu - the hotel looks like it is in a lovely setting.

QueenStromba Fri 16-Nov-12 19:59:35

Please go back and ask them what the plate of carrots is thanks

strictlovingmum Fri 16-Nov-12 20:13:10

That is awful OPshock £12.95 for plate of diced carrots and as for the tomato risotto, well that is just boring their 2AA needs to be reconsidered.
It is the poor effort that get's to me in those posh eateries, they obviously can get away with it.

I am not a chef, but this is what I cooked for last week dinner with friends who are(both) vegetarian.

Goat's cheese and roasted vegetables stuck, red wine reduction

Bell pepper stuffed with Moroccan cous cous served on the bed of creamed spinach

Chocolate tart with home made lavender ice creamsmile

Print this and discretely leave it with reception of the hotel upon leaving.grin

They are taking a piss.

stubbornstains Fri 16-Nov-12 20:19:43

Somebody get in touch with Jay Rayner or AA Gill. I'd love to see them do a hatchet job on this place.

showtunesgirl Fri 16-Nov-12 20:21:17

Jay Rayner is very responsive on Twitter.

Look at the tripadvisor reviews.

'Nuff said.


Vivalebeaver Fri 16-Nov-12 20:56:21

121st out of 156 restaurants in Bedford. That's quite dire isn't it!

MidnightHag Fri 16-Nov-12 21:03:47

Dreadful spelling too [snob]

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Fri 16-Nov-12 21:27:25

The scallop cut in three is a genius touch!

thenightsky Fri 16-Nov-12 21:53:00

Ive typed a question on their FB page... now shall I hit 'share'?

The responses to the reviews are ridiculous in some parts.
Customer: Disinterested staff on reception.
GManager: However we would stress that our reception team are not disinterested


Namechangeforapropertythread Fri 16-Nov-12 21:53:24


thenightsky Fri 16-Nov-12 21:54:44

eeek.. done it!

Cahoots Fri 16-Nov-12 22:01:14

It looks awful.
Carrots for £12.95 shock shock shock

TheBigKidsDidIt Fri 16-Nov-12 22:10:10

Well done thenightsky. Surely it's a misprint and should be in the side dishes?

EcoLady Fri 16-Nov-12 22:14:13

Loving the Trip Advisor comments, especially the description of the receptionist who "has the people skills of a lemon" grin

4 people "like" thenightsky's fb comment already... how many of us are going to be unintentionally outed as MNers here! grin

thenightsky Fri 16-Nov-12 22:20:49

Oh I don't care if people know who I am. grin

ICantStandLosing Fri 16-Nov-12 22:33:23

grin Toffeecaramel. That's one of my favourite Royle Family episodes

SlightlySuperiorPeasant Fri 16-Nov-12 22:34:24

Ooo this is close to me! If I get spectacularly bored tomorrow I might go and order it to find out what it actually is.

joanbyers Fri 16-Nov-12 22:37:58

OP, you better not be planning on eating breakfast in the morning - when they get wind of this thread they will be gobbing in your porridge. wink

thenightsky Fri 16-Nov-12 22:38:13

SSP... go and report back here grin

ZillionChocolate Fri 16-Nov-12 22:58:09

I'm reassured that if I ever have to host a dinner party at short notice and all I've got in is a bag of carrots that'd be acceptable.

FeckOffWithYourXmasBollocks Fri 16-Nov-12 23:02:11

That trip advisor picture is definitely one scallop cut into 3! shock

thenightsky Fri 16-Nov-12 23:06:22

Well no response from the Bedford Swan yet. Perhaps they are too busy dashing around serving everyone their famous plates of carrots.

ravenAK Fri 16-Nov-12 23:12:20

'We at the Bedford Swan Hotel recognise that our younger guests (aged 11
years and under) have very little individual tastes'

True that. My ds does indeed have very little taste. He likes dadrock & Star Wars, & tries to wear sandals with socks.

fuzzpig Fri 16-Nov-12 23:12:31

Well to be fair, it does say Our menu does not necessarily list all ingredients in every dish

So maybe they omitted something important from the description like a big wedge of cheddar.

fuzzpig Fri 16-Nov-12 23:16:27

Do you think the carrots look like this

Viviennemary Fri 16-Nov-12 23:25:29

I don't think the hotel is unreasonable. Their job is to make money and they are offering a vegetarian option that you don't happen to like. Don't get the plate of carrots. Maybe it's a misprint. Pets welcome doesn't usually mean horses. grin

WheatenFarlo Fri 16-Nov-12 23:31:51

I've seen some very bad vegetarian options in my time, but this is something else! Can't wait to hear their response.

thenightsky Fri 16-Nov-12 23:34:13

Wonder when they check their FB. I am looking forward to their reply grin

ravenAK Fri 16-Nov-12 23:39:10

They'll be recovering from a busy night's service by now - all that peeling, dicing, julienning. Takes it out of you.

Melpomene Fri 16-Nov-12 23:40:56

OP again. We've been out all evening and the restaurant had closed by the time we got back to the hotel at 11, so I don't know whether it remained deserted all evening or whether it had lots of carrot-eating customers while we were out. It was certainly deserted at 6pm when I popped in earlier.

If they don't reply to that Facebook message, ill try and ask them about the carrots tomorrow.

I have discovered another corking misprint, in the hotel spa brochure. They offer a 'mum to be baby bump massage', which is described as being 'distressing'. I think (hope) they meant to say 'de-stressing'.

FeckOffWithYourXmasBollocks Fri 16-Nov-12 23:43:00

shock hmm grin

JugglingWithPossibilities Fri 16-Nov-12 23:44:20

HaHa !

WheatenFarlo Fri 16-Nov-12 23:45:32

Maybe they are just very strong believers in honesty confused

To be fair though, with my SPD, I would have found getting on and off a massage table extremely distressing!

thenightsky Fri 16-Nov-12 23:48:06

grin at a distressing massage.

JugglingWithPossibilities Sat 17-Nov-12 00:07:37

I once had a very distressing massage in the grounds of a Thai temple - much standing on my groin was involved IIRC confused

TheBigKidsDidIt Sat 17-Nov-12 00:41:37

shock at distressing pregnancy massages

FairPhyllis Sat 17-Nov-12 00:54:58

I know that hotel well. I am very surprised - I would expect them to be able to knock up something better than that. I think the dish must have something else with it.

joanbyers Sat 17-Nov-12 01:15:35

a stick?

TiggyD Sat 17-Nov-12 09:49:38

They get 2 circles on Trip Advisor. The local Little Chef gets 4 circles!

Vivalebeaver Sat 17-Nov-12 09:55:33

They only get two circles because someone probably the manager has given a five star review to combat all the one star ones.

KenAdams Sat 17-Nov-12 11:30:10

Check out the picture on Tripadvisor someone's uploaded of one scallop cut into three! Judging by that, a plate of carrots may indeed just be a plate of carrots!

SingSung Sat 17-Nov-12 11:41:59

I had a 'vegan' option on an Emirates flight once which was raw sliced aubergine. That's it. Nice!

We used to go to a lovely little bistro-style restaurant where there were no vegetarian dishes on the menu at all. You simply asked the waiter for a vegetarian meal, and the chef would come to your table and chat about what you fancied eating today - he made the most amazing veggie meals.

<wistful sigh>

spg1983 Sat 17-Nov-12 12:31:24

Well nothing yet from the hotel on their Facebook page but the question has attracted quite a lot of attention! 2 more posts and 33 'likes'!!

Melpomene Sat 17-Nov-12 13:40:07

OP here again. After breakfast I asked a waitress about the plate of carrots.

Me: I saw on your dinner menu there is a vegetarian option of a plate of carrots. I'd that just a plate of carrots, or something else?

Waitress: it is a plate of carrots, but not as you know it. There's carrot and sweet potato mash, a savoury carrot cake, and grated carrots with...swede...or something. It's very nice.


do you know I love carrots - if it was what the waitress described I would order it!
It sounds like one of the dishes they do on masterchef - "carrots three ways"

Cahoots Sat 17-Nov-12 13:44:09

It still sounds mostly like 'a plate of carrots' albeit vamped up with the addition of , err, more orangy root vegatables grin

NorbertDentressangle Sat 17-Nov-12 13:46:40

PMSL at Tiggy D'Amour's comment on their facebook page grin

JugglingWithPossibilities Sat 17-Nov-12 13:47:19

Sounds like they were trying to be understated in their description, but agree "Carrots three ways" might have sounded more tempting.

Namechangeforapropertythread Sat 17-Nov-12 13:47:45

But no protein?

JugglingWithPossibilities Sat 17-Nov-12 13:56:33

Or maybe after all this attention, Mumsnet, Facebook etc. they've quickly decided to fancy up their carrots a bit grin

ErikNorseman Sat 17-Nov-12 14:24:23

Carrots three ways?! PMSL. That's 3 side dishes, not a meal. And I wouldn't choose three carrot based side dishes anyway.

TiggyD Sat 17-Nov-12 15:03:09

Anybody on here ever had a carrot threeway?

fallingsun Sat 17-Nov-12 15:10:53

So it sounds like a main course of mash and coleslaw?!with carrot cake?!for £13?are they crazy?

MichelleObarmy Sat 17-Nov-12 15:18:52

'Carrots three ways' sounds like some sort of torturous BDSM practice.

12.95 for a plate of carrots, though...that is a BRAVE piss taking price.

AnnIonicIsoTronic Sat 17-Nov-12 15:32:50

Rofl @ the Facebook

(& it's also so meeeean towards some hapless duty manager having to deal with this somewhere!!)

AnnIonicIsoTronic Sat 17-Nov-12 15:35:05

Op - if I PayPal you £12.95 will you go & order it & post a full review with pictures?

I know otherwise my curiosity will get the better of me & I'll find myself on the train heading to Bedford...

TiggyD I actually knew some people at uni that had a carrot four-way...

OP please let Ann paypal you and review!

ToffeeCaramel Sat 17-Nov-12 16:43:50

It's carrots Jim, but not as we know it...

fallingsun Sat 17-Nov-12 17:01:36

Should this thread be linked to the Bedford Swan somehow so the management can understand how poor their vegetarian option is?can it be linked on their facebook page or something?!

Melpomene Sat 17-Nov-12 17:11:21

Sorry, we've left the hotel and are back at home now so it wouldn't be possible for me to order it even if you paid me! I don't think I would have wanted to have it even if someone paid me, anyway.

FeckOffWithYourXmasBollocks Sat 17-Nov-12 19:26:03

Tiggy! grin norty norty! wink

thenightsky Tue 20-Nov-12 14:14:16

Ahhhh.. they have got back to me on FB!

'Plate of carrots is a warm carrot mousse , carrot & potato terrine, spiced & coriander carrot cake, butter sauce, baby carrots, carrot puree, I will post a picture of one Chef has just made'.

joanbyers Tue 20-Nov-12 14:16:48

don't they have any other vegetables?

Woozley Tue 20-Nov-12 14:16:55

Sounds great. Can I get a side of broccolli with it though? smile

Have they never heard the saying 'variety is the spice of lifex'?
And that does sound suspiciously like what the poster further up the thread said shock

joanbyers Tue 20-Nov-12 14:18:11

parsnips, say?

And carrot cake as a main dish?
I'm sorry. I may be a pleb. But that is not dinner. And I am vegetarian

FellatioNelson Tue 20-Nov-12 14:18:47

That MUST be a mistake surely? grin

Either way it's bloody hilarious. Perhaps the chef just hates vegetarians.

thenightsky Tue 20-Nov-12 14:21:31
daddyorchipsdaddyorchips Tue 20-Nov-12 14:22:20

Um...the photo of the plate of carrots looks vair vair unappetising!

So why don't they write an explanation of it on their menu?! Not that I would want to eat that meal particularly anyway, but it does sound slightly more appetising than 'plate of carrots' confused

Cahooots Tue 20-Nov-12 14:23:06

'Plate of carrots is a warm carrot mousse , carrot & potato terrine, spiced & coriander carrot cake, butter sauce, baby carrots, carrot puree, I will post a picture of one Chef has just made'.

...umm, that's still a plate of carrots.

Mrskbpw Tue 20-Nov-12 14:23:43

How many calories do you reckon is in that plate of carrots? About 100? You would be starving about 10 minutes later.

BreconBeBuggered Tue 20-Nov-12 14:25:00

And who let the dog puke on the plate whilst Chef was plating up?

ToffeeCaramel Tue 20-Nov-12 14:26:05

I think it looks quite nice, although shame there's no protein.

I'd happily pay £12.95 for that - looks really nice actually. I agree they need to jazz up the menu description a bit.

I think it looks alright. Not something I'd have as I like a good slab of meat but if I was veggie it'd be fine.

BedfordSwan Tue 20-Nov-12 14:47:43

I just wanted to give you more info on the Plate of Carrots, carrot & potato terrine, spiced & coriander carrot cake, butter sauce, baby carrots, carrot puree, it is a really nice dish I have posted an image on our FB page -!/pages/The-Bedford-Swan/119378151446089

JugglingWithPossibilities Tue 20-Nov-12 14:50:26

I agree with others that they really need to lose the cake and add some protein
- carrot and tofu something ? or carrot and lentil soup ?
Looks quite pretty though - thanks for link smile

TheBigKidsDidIt Tue 20-Nov-12 14:53:32

Bedford Swan - that looks yum but it would be good to elaborate on 'a plate of carrots' on the menu. Thank you for coming on here to show us.

BreconBeBuggered Tue 20-Nov-12 14:53:50

Can you post a picture of a different main course so that we can compare?
I'm a veggie who loves to eat out and I loathe going home feeling underfed compared to everyone else.
Would rather have carrots than quorn, though, so well done on avoiding that, BedfordSwan

Im amazed the chef can be arsed to actually mousse a fecking carrot, but can't stretch to making something that resembles an adult meal??

Plate of carrots now showing on Facebook page!

Frontpaw Tue 20-Nov-12 15:43:00

Menu for a rabbit perhaps? They must be dipped in gold to cost that much, unless Michel Roux is cooking them himself. Then I'd pay that for them!

MissCellania Tue 20-Nov-12 16:03:50

I think that looks nice. I'd eat it. Better than yet another sodding mushroom risotto or veg lasagne, which is usually the veg option.

TiggyD Tue 20-Nov-12 17:02:59

Looks a bit like it's covered the chef is hugely turned on by carrots?

showtunesgirl Tue 20-Nov-12 17:07:31

Not biting. That looks like a starter NOT a main course. A lot of my ILs are vegetarian and no way would their tummies be full after that.

ErikNorseman Tue 20-Nov-12 17:09:06

Oh come on! That sounds vile. Warm carrot mousse? Really? Savoury carrot cake???? No way would I want an entire meal flavoured with carrot, and it simply needs protein. It's style over substance and an outrage for £13. I know the chef has done some fancy work but the raw ingredient is 50p a kilo in tesco!
Bedfordswan- this is terrible. Tomato risotto is also dull. I would never choose to eat in your restaurant with those two options.

FellatioNelson Tue 20-Nov-12 17:23:20

Warm carrot mousse sounds like baby food. And much as I like a nice carrot I have no wish to eat an entire plate of them and little else, no matter how they have been pimped.

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