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To dislike the 'bling' poppies that celebrities have started wearing?

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filetheflightoffancy Sun 11-Nov-12 13:22:08

I was watching Strictly Come Dancing last night and noticed that pretty much all of the dancers and judges (apart from Len Goodman) were wearing these poppy brooches that are made with crystals and are all sparkly.

Now, I guess you could say that it is good that they are wearing a poppy in any form - I dont know, but am assuming that donations from the sparkly poppies still go to the RBL?

But I just think it goes against the whole point of the poppy. It is supposed to be a humble reminder of those who died for our freedom. But it is as if these celebrities have decided that the regular paper poppies are just too 'boring' and need something more blingy to show just hooooooow respectful they are. Its just all a bit 'look at meeeeeeeee and my sparkly poppy!' They have turned to poppy into a fashion accessory and I just think it is wrong.

I havent articulated myself all that well in this post, but AIBU?

IneedAgoldenNickname Sun 11-Nov-12 13:26:01

I don't like them either

GobblersSparklyExplodingKnob Sun 11-Nov-12 13:26:31

Nope they are from RBL so you can stop your fretting. Any donation is a good donation. They make little poppy charms to that are fab.

Maybe you would like one? smile

KaFayOLay Sun 11-Nov-12 13:30:21

I like them but I can see them being put away and used year after year, meaning a dip in donations.

Nancy66 Sun 11-Nov-12 13:35:22

i bought one yesterday. Was six quid. I like it and, unlike the paper ones, it won't fall off after 2 minutes.

WileyRoadRunner Sun 11-Nov-12 13:36:42

Hmmm I noticed some celebs wearing much smaller/less obvious ones sometimes appear they aren't wearing one at all so I think if its nice and noticeable great.

They are also considerably more expensive so also good for RBL.

kafayolay I have an enamel pin that I wear every year but I still put money in the donation pot every year and my DDs go through multiple "normal" poppies too!

sue52 Sun 11-Nov-12 13:40:08

I like the simplicity of the normal ones. These showy sparkly ones don't seem to fit the message of sacrifice, loss and rememberance.

BooyhooRemembering Sun 11-Nov-12 13:43:04

hmm

McChristmasPants2012 Sun 11-Nov-12 13:44:36

I just hope the private sellers of these bling poppies on eBay are giving the money to the poppy appeal, just looked and there seems to be loads going.

As long as the donation go to the poppy appeal I don't care if its a t-shirt, wrist band or any other type if product.

Nancy66 Sun 11-Nov-12 14:25:12

nobody should buy them privately. I doubt the money goes to the cause.

there are enough fancy ones on the RBL site

ivykaty44 Sun 11-Nov-12 14:32:13

I thought the poppy was used as a symbol of where our soldiers died, in poppy fields in France, what is the humble reminder? Of to search as I feel silly not knowing about this blush

manticlimactic Sun 11-Nov-12 14:34:20

How do you know they haven't put money in the collection tins ?

What does it matter as long as they have donated.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos Sun 11-Nov-12 14:38:10

I like them as long as they are the RBL ones.

Although when I was selling them yesterday I got a donation from a lady who was wearing one she had knitted herself. I had poppy envy.

AngryFeet Sun 11-Nov-12 14:40:33

I bought a fabric one the other day. The money went to RBL and it is pretty and easy to keep on as it is a brooch. Who cares, I like it and I donated. Even if I wear it for a few years I will still donate.

YABU

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 11-Nov-12 14:42:37

YANBU - I don't like the idea that the people selling them are profiting from what should be a commemorative,not commercial, event. I don't have an issue with the sparkley poppies in and of themselves.vJust not a fan of the people selling them.

Though if they do actually donate their profits to the RBL I will eat my words. but I'd still never wear a sparkely one

MammaTJ Sun 11-Nov-12 14:45:45

A friend of mine knits them and sells them, all the money goes the the RBL. I bought one last year but made a donation this year instead.

imogengladhart Sun 11-Nov-12 14:49:21

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Viviennemary Sun 11-Nov-12 14:55:00

I can't see the harm in them if they are raising money for a good cause.

littlenoodles Sun 11-Nov-12 15:00:03

YABU. I bought a sparkly one last year for £15.00 (off the RBL website), plus several papers ones for my DC to eat! This year I've bought 2 blingy lapel pins for £10 and a couple of jute bags, paper Poppy's and wristbands... So all in all have probably donated more to the charity than a lot of people.
They're pretty and don't flipping fall off all the time either. I love it!

ElectricMonk Sun 11-Nov-12 15:30:46

It's a difficult balance, I think. I'm all for reusable poppies as I hate it when the paper ones get crumpled or dropped - it makes me feel wasteful and disrespectful (and did especially back when more were made by ex-servicemen and volunteers).

I bought a crocheted poppy from a church group (selling on ebay, with permission from RBL), who make them with donated wool and give all of the profits to RBL. I spent £4 on it this year, and will donate the same amount every year to the RBL as I would previously have done but without taking a paper poppy.

I'm not comfortable with anybody profiteering from poppy selling though, and that's my issue with sparkly ones which aren't sold by the RBL. I also dislike seeing them used on headbands, tucked into bootlaces etc as I have seen on TV in the past - for some reason, that feels far more like a disrespectful fashion statement to me than the blinged-up lapel pins ever do.

Meglet England Sun 11-Nov-12 15:35:11

yabu.

I lose poppies within seconds of pinning them on or the kids try and get the pin, I don't have button holes. I would rather spend more money on something that makes it to the end of the street. And yes, I would buy a new one every year.

Might get a metal lapel one next year after looking at the previous RBL link.

Hopeforever Sun 11-Nov-12 15:35:57

Having been through so many and still needing a decent one for Sunday I've got a small pin badge that is a poppy with '12' next to the leaf. It's lasted all week but I'll need a new one next year. Trouble is its too small.

I like the big badges, if £5 goes to RBL I guess it's still more than the £1 I expect some paper poppies get.

LittleMissFlustered Sun 11-Nov-12 15:39:55

My daughter has one of the 'floppy' ones they sell on the RBL stand, it was blinged to the brim with sparkle and fake gems. She loves itsmile

Mrsjay Sun 11-Nov-12 15:42:10

DD had a small blingy 1 she prefers it to paper ones and her work gave them out sits better on her work jacket,

BrianGiggs Sun 11-Nov-12 15:42:45

agree

is all about them

Dead69Girl Sun 11-Nov-12 15:45:56

YABU.

I like them, my paper one always falls off,

filetheflightoffancy Sun 11-Nov-12 16:50:26

I dont know, I just dont like the way it has been turned into a fashion thing

For example like this
(and only 10% of these products are going to RBL)

It just seems quite shallow to me. It shouldnt be that young people are buying the poppies because they are a 'Celeb Hit'.

But as many of you have said, any extra money going to RBL can only be a good thing so I am prepared to concede that IAB a bit unreasonable!

I have had to correct the spelling of poppies from poopies several times in my posts

weegiemum Argentina Sun 11-Nov-12 16:56:08

Our local shopping centre had a stall with poppy merchandise (everything from bling poppies to kiddy hoodies). I just think it's too much. I don't wear a poppy by choice (my DGrandpa, a ww2 RAF gunner veteran, refused to wear one, I follow his example!) but using it as a merchandising tool is sick.

EdgarAllanPond Sun 11-Nov-12 16:56:17

i love sparkle YABU

i have a large paper one.

DD lost the money before even buying a poppy this year (that makes two years running)

maybe i should just get her one of those.

whathasthecatdonenow Sun 11-Nov-12 16:56:42

I have a one from the RBL website. I don't think they'd sell them if they didn't want us to buy them! It doesn't get creased and look a mess after a few hours. I wear it on my work clothes as I am a History teacher so I think it is important to display my poppy in school to hopefully encourage the children to purchase one. This one doesn't get spoilt by my putting my coat on.

I also buy a paper poppy to wear on my outdoor coat, and replace this at least 3 times in the days leading up to 11/11.

I love them....thank you for link as I'll be buying one.

Our family has gone through 7 paper ones this week....I'll still pop money in the pots even though I'll have my super dupper twinkly one; and I'd hope people who support this cause would do the same. And TBH I think they would (optimistic smiley).

Hulababy Sun 11-Nov-12 16:59:30

So long as the money goes to RBL then I have no issue at all. Some are nice and don't just fall apart. DD goes through 3 or 4 each year - one like this would be better for her. I would still donate every year anyway, and do so regardless even if not getting a poppy each time.

YANBU. I'm with you. They aren't fashion statements.

LFCisTarkaDahl Sun 11-Nov-12 17:07:40

I bought one - £16 to the charity and no crap to lose/throw away. I hate throwing away anything even poppies.

Mynewmoniker Sun 11-Nov-12 17:10:06

I feel it's a 'I'm kinder, more charitable than you' statement. Sorry, I know that's going to upset some people. If you've given a donation it doesn't need a flash poppy to advertise the fact, surely. Even if you lose your poppy YOU know you've donated.

YANBU

MsElleTow Sun 11-Nov-12 17:10:24

I bought the Poppy Ring from the Royal British Legion Poppy Shop. I don't know if a percentage or all of the money goes to the RBL, but they got more money because I bought that ring.

I, also, bought 4 enamel poppy pins with 2012 on so I can't re-use them next year, and DH put £10 in when he bought 4 poppies.

I think YABU, the poppy is the symbol of Remembrance, it doesn't matter if they are 'bling' or not!

LFCisTarkaDahl Sun 11-Nov-12 17:14:52

That's your stuff mynewmoniker

I certainly don't think I'm more charitable or kinder than anyone else. I just wanted one that I didn't need to throw away when it got wet or ruined.

That's you doing other people's thinking for them.

cocolepew United States Sun 11-Nov-12 17:15:54

I have a blingy one from the RBL website, its safer to wear because the pin is covered and I don't lose it. Also it doesn't get thrown away, I still put money in the collection boxes every year.

akaemmafrost Sun 11-Nov-12 17:20:23

I don't think there's anything wrong with them. I am going to get one but will still donate each year. Going to get the dc wrist bands as well as their poppies fall off in minutes without fail.

EdgarAllanPond Sun 11-Nov-12 17:21:16

maybe they are more charitable than you?

or maybe they like shiny things more.

LilyVonSchtupp Sun 11-Nov-12 17:22:38

I agree with you OP. YANBU.

"More money goes to the charity" argument would make more sense if everyday poppies weren't bought by DONATION. i.e. YOU choose how much to put in.

I also agree with Mynewmoniker - I don't think the poppy should be turned into a statement about the wearer. If the old poppy does get lost or broken, so what - it's

I think the simplicity of the poppy and its uniformity is symbolic. Everyone wore the paper and plastic poppy regardless of wealth, age, ability and background. Wearing the poppy gave us something in common. I think 'brand diversification' goes against the spirit of remembrance and of uniting us all in a simple act that remains the same year in year out.

And if I sound both pretentious and an old duffer I don't care smile

LilyVonSchtupp Sun 11-Nov-12 17:23:55

Sorry I missed a senstence off the 3rd para. Should read: - "it's not about advertising how benevolent you are but about getting donations to service families and veterans."

I agree with those who say it shouldn't become a fashion statement. I always liked the essential leveller of poppy-wearing - the prime minister, your teacher, the vicar, some sleb on tv and you would all be wearing the same cheap paper poppy. The message was kept simple and there was no implication that all poppies were equal but some were more equal than others. confused I also dislike the opportunity for ostentation - that if you're wearing the £24.99 bling one from the RBL site rather than one bought for an unspecified donation, it's quite clear how much you've spent. hmm

(on the other hand, I wore an AIDS ribbon for about an entire decade (and not sure why I don't still wear one) and sometimes it was a ribbon one, sometimes it was an enamel one, and for a while it was a lovely one woven from beads by HIV sufferers in Kenya. It fell off though.)

LFCisTarkaDahl Sun 11-Nov-12 17:37:07

But I am not making a statement, I am not advertising my 'benevolence'' - those are assumptions you are putting on me.

In my head I'm buying something not disposable and that's the extent of it.

LFCisTarkaDahl Sun 11-Nov-12 17:39:58

Actually that's not quite the extent of it as I teared up when I bought it a month ago on the day my cousin left for Iraq.

But let's not let reality get in the way of having a go at what you think is a 'fashion statement'.

BinksToEnlightenment Sun 11-Nov-12 17:49:33

It's not possible for the whole price of a poppy to go to the charity. Even it's made of paper, it has still cost money to make it. You have to pay for the time and the materials before the donation.

LilyVonSchtupp Sun 11-Nov-12 17:52:42

Hi LFC - I'm not putting any assumptions on you. I didn't mention you at all. I think there should be one poppy for everyone and people donate according to what they can afford. I agree with you and think this poppy should last longer and be more environmentally / wildlife friendly. But it should be one poppy for all.

However, there would clearly be a cost-benefit to RBL on having 'bling' poppies so I am aware I'm out of touch on this.

McChristmasPants2012 Sun 11-Nov-12 17:57:28

I wonder how many trees are used to make the thousands of poppies that end up in landfill and the plastic bits in the middle how much pollution is emitted when making theses parts.

I try to reuse, reduce and recycle as much as I can, so a poppy that last from my pov is more Eco friendly

Tiggygirl Sun 11-Nov-12 19:26:05

I think they are a fab idea and plan on buying one for next year.I hate the fact that I constantly lose the paper ones and prefer to know that they are going to stay put .I plan to donate money every year regardless ,so I don't agree that it will affect donations .

filetheflightoffancy Sun 11-Nov-12 19:26:30

Yes, I think thats it Lily and Reshape, the paper poppy used to be a simple, universal thing, everyone wore the same one whether they were celebrity, politician or Joe Bloggs. Now there is almost an element of 'my poppy is better than your poppy'.

McChristmas you make a good point that there probably are implications with all that wasted paper and plastic. But I think that there should still just be one Poppy, albeit perhaps a more environmentally friendly you, that everyone wears and pays for with a donation.

My opinion is quite invalid really though, as the RBL obviously are all for selling the blingy ones.

kissyfur Sun 11-Nov-12 19:32:04

I bought a crystal one from the RBL shop last year, but I still buy paper ones for DP and DD, and will do every year

greenbananas Sun 11-Nov-12 20:11:17

OP, I agree with you wholeheartedly (although I can also see the point about donations being valid whatever the poppy looks like).

The ordinary lapel style poppy is a very powerful symbol, and to me it seems disrespectful to mess about with that symbol. Wearing a cheap-looking and unfashionable paper poppy is not much of a sacrifice, compared to the sacrifice those WW1 soldiers made for us - and of course all the other soldiers since that time.

whathasthecatdonenow Sun 11-Nov-12 20:19:07

Is it disrespectful if the Royal British Legion are the ones doing the 'messing about' with the symbol?

Mynewmoniker Sun 11-Nov-12 20:36:42

Actually that's not quite the extent of it as I teared up when I bought it a month ago on the day my cousin left for Iraq. LFC

I also have someone close going over shortly. I still think it's bling for the sake of it.

greenbananas Sun 11-Nov-12 21:11:49

Is it disrespectful if the Royal British Legion are the ones doing the 'messing about' with the symbol?

Well, yes, I think it is bit of a shame, although I do respect their decision and I'm sure they thought long and hard about it. If they didn't produce these 'alternative' poppies then somebody else would (maybe only donating a token 10% of the profits) and it's hardly fair to blame the RBL for making sure they get as much of the money as possible.

greenbananas Sun 11-Nov-12 21:23:16

whathasthecatdonenow - I've just looked at the 'poppy shop' on the Royal British Legion website, and the RBL alternative poppies are very close to the orginal shape of the standard poppies, just more indestructible. I do think those RBL poppies are a far cry from the overstated, big and blingy alternative poppies that I've seen some celebrities wearing over the last couple of weeks.

BrianGiggs Sun 11-Nov-12 21:46:52

I think it's symbolic of the ostentatious "I'm remembering more than you" by showing off.

BrianGiggs Sun 11-Nov-12 21:47:26

I liked the egality and simplicity of the paper one. And I suppose it's ephemeral nature.

EdgarAllanPond Sun 11-Nov-12 21:52:16

.. or maybe, some people like shiny things more..

happylass Australia Sun 11-Nov-12 22:03:46

I have a sparkly poppy brooch that I bought from the Royal British Legion website, costing about £20. The main reason being that I found that the paper poppies were constantly falling off and I was then left without one. I'm guessing the whole £20 goes to the RBL and is a lot more than I would spend in a good few years on paper poppieS. Plus I bought a paper poppy this year as well as wanted to make a donation. So definitely not a fashion accessory. Helping out a very good cause IMO.

IneedAgoldenNickname Sun 11-Nov-12 22:15:08

My 6 year old proudly told me that I didn't need to buy him a poppy this year as he still had last years in his 'treasure box' he's put it away again for next year. Not sure how he's managed it, as like everyone else I get through a few per year

RubyGates Sun 11-Nov-12 22:52:18

Didn't they used to do "silk" poppies that lasted more than half-an-hour before they rolled up and looked hideous?
I'm sure they did. I've bought a poppy and a wristband this year, but I'd really like something that looks respectable for the full time I'm wearing it.

SmellsLikeTeenStrop Sun 11-Nov-12 22:59:43

As long as all proceeds go to the RBL I don't particularly care.

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