that the Tory Party are a bunch of misogynistic bastards?

(103 Posts)
ParrotTulip Mon 08-Oct-12 20:41:53

The tories don't even seem to bother to don the sheep's clothing any more. It's seems to be a systematic co-ordinated attack on equality, from the Health minister'sview on abortion to George Osborne's plans to make employees sign away someof their maternity and flexible working rights if they want a job. Scary, scary times.

AThingInYourLife Mon 08-Oct-12 20:42:48

YANBU

kim147 Mon 08-Oct-12 20:43:05

Indeed it's scary. The shares will be worth nothing and future employees will have to sign their employment rights away. sad

ParrotTulip Mon 08-Oct-12 21:04:23

I don't know what to do. I want to protest but I don't know how to.

KellyElly Mon 08-Oct-12 21:33:52

YANBU. Roll on 2015 when we get them out!

MrsToddsShortcut Mon 08-Oct-12 21:37:47
BadDayAtTheOrifice Mon 08-Oct-12 21:41:56

I want to go on the march but can't afford the train fare. Does anyone know if there is any organised transport to get down there?

threesocksmorgan Mon 08-Oct-12 21:42:57

yabu
they just hate the poor and vulnerable. don't think they give a shit about what sex they are.

Inneedofbrandy Mon 08-Oct-12 21:43:39

It's so so scary. People don't even realise how evil they are and what they're doing to this country.

I hope and pray they get kicked the fuck out next election never to return.

Inneedofbrandy Mon 08-Oct-12 21:44:56

I wish I could get to London and protest sad

LineRunner Mon 08-Oct-12 21:45:48

Every government department keeps a watching brief over Mumsnet.

So just by being on here, starting a thread, you are protesting. smile

JeuxDEnfants Mon 08-Oct-12 21:46:42

Bunch of ****!

jellybeans Mon 08-Oct-12 21:47:35

YANBU

JeuxDEnfants Mon 08-Oct-12 21:47:58

Sorry just wanted to clarify. Not you guys... Tories. Limiting benefit for large families and talking about reducing abortion limit at same time?!?!

monkeysbignuts Mon 08-Oct-12 21:51:33

I am another Tory hater! who the fuck voted them in??? They need to get out.

<bit thick> Is that true Linerunner?

MissPricklePants Mon 08-Oct-12 21:54:45

YANBU OP, squeezing us until the pip's squeak, making the poor poorer is disgusting!

ATourchOfInsanity Mon 08-Oct-12 21:55:30

Come from a long line of Tory voters. Will not happen again in this family. Even my dad has been taken aback in recent months.

The march seems to be focusing on industry. Is there anything a bit more familial?

LineRunner Mon 08-Oct-12 21:56:09

Yes, it is true, wanna. I wouldn't joke about such a serious issue. One of the reasons that I love MN is the way women have used to internet to inhabit political spaces.

Justine on Questiontime was a very telling moment.

happybubblebrain Mon 08-Oct-12 21:58:48

I realised how evil they were before they got in.
Nobody would listen to me though.
OP, I completely agree with you.

Is it on you tube?

monkeysbignuts Mon 08-Oct-12 22:02:30

m.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/oct/08/george-osborne-workers-rights-shares?cat=politics&type=article

is this what your referring too? p.s I do think abortions need reducing but 12 weeks is awfully low :/

gordyslovesheep Mon 08-Oct-12 22:03:00

yanbu

sarahseashell Mon 08-Oct-12 22:16:59

YANBU

Levantine Mon 08-Oct-12 22:20:03

Yanbu. They're doing a smash and grab because they realise they won't get in in 2015

ShellyBoobs Mon 08-Oct-12 22:24:36

...they realise they won't get in in 2015

Who do you think will get in?

No matter how bad this government is, you'd have to be on fucking glue to vote for Miliband.

ATourchOfInsanity Mon 08-Oct-12 22:27:08

What I can't get my head around is how their wives can deal with it all. They at least must have some empathy/sympathy with women? I don't buy that they are all just so rich nothing affects them. Morally they would have to almost become the worst kind of man to get any logic out of these policies or future policies.

ParrotTulip Mon 08-Oct-12 22:27:40

That's the scary thing, there's no credible opposition

Lilithmoon Mon 08-Oct-12 22:29:32

You can look for transport to the march on the 20th of October here:

economy http://falseeconomy.org.uk/travel/uk/all/t1

It is vital that this event is well attended.

The bastards in government do not give a shiny shit about us sad

Lilithmoon Mon 08-Oct-12 22:37:08

I have just had a look at the coaches and there are many very cheap and free places available.

LineRunner Mon 08-Oct-12 22:40:37

They'll have minders out.

For fuck's sake, Gideon, it's the Mumsnet coach. Run.

<sound of Boris trying to board coach>

monkeysbignuts Mon 08-Oct-12 22:44:43

shellyboobs I will be voting labour and I am not sniffing glue!

LineRunner Mon 08-Oct-12 22:46:25

I'm thinking of voting Labour.

ATourchOfInsanity Mon 08-Oct-12 22:50:14

WOW. Just read in Torygraph:
“David Cameron has said that the idea of giving prisoners the vote makes him physically sick. Parliament has voted to express its sympathy for that perspective.”

LineRunner Mon 08-Oct-12 22:51:05

God he's like that Walliams-woman on Little Britain.

monkeysbignuts Mon 08-Oct-12 23:03:51

haha linerunner the one who pukes at poor, immigrants & gay people etc. Yeah he is a snob, I am not surprised though.

LineRunner Mon 08-Oct-12 23:36:20

Maggie, that's her name. Davod 'Maggie' Cameron has a certain ring to it.

Levantine Tue 09-Oct-12 01:25:43

Shelley If they couldn't form a majority in 2010 what makes you think they will be able to form one in 2015? Have they got more popular, or less so?

caramelwaffle Tue 09-Oct-12 01:35:27

Keeping this bumped because when I heard about having people sign away employee rights on the radio today, I was shocked and nowt' much this serious shocks me these days.

People piss on The Unions (quote unquote) these days but they have done a lot for working people over the past hundred or so years: hard won Rights signed away for a paper promise of nothingness.

bochead Tue 09-Oct-12 01:40:37

The proposal to charge single parents for the services of the CSA clarified their position as the plight of women & children languishing in poverty for me. Sadly I didn't then realise what a sliver thin edge of the wedge it was at that point.

Do they not realise that "little women" comprise over 50% of the population + we have caring responsibilities for a significant proportion of the male population too (children, elderly, sick + disabled).

caramelwaffle Tue 09-Oct-12 01:40:38

Signing away the right to claim unfair dismissal - that'll be just great hmm if you happen to be female or an ethnic minority or disabled - sometimes simply "not desirable" to have employed - according to some.

caramelwaffle Tue 09-Oct-12 01:44:28

Yes bochead Exactly re: Csa

I read recently that over 50% of single people who purchase property in this country are female.

Females have purchasing, and voting power.

CommunistMoon Tue 09-Oct-12 01:47:54

2015, 2015, 2015, 2015, 2015, 2015, 2015, 2015, 2015, 2015 (repeat until bored)

NewNames Tue 09-Oct-12 01:49:25

2015: Lib Lab coalition?

CommunistMoon Tue 09-Oct-12 01:51:26

A pact would be sufficient.

Leena49 Tue 09-Oct-12 06:12:12

I never voted for them. Anyone who did was bloody naive. I'm angry at those people who voted for them for being so politically naive. It makes me so mad. Look at them. They are public school freaks.

wannabe what Linerunner said is definitely true. I sent an e-mail to Chris Grayling and wrote about it on here. I got a reply asking me to post his answer on Mumsnet as well, so I did (still have the email).

apostropheuse Tue 09-Oct-12 07:25:04

It's all rather deja vu to me. Unfortunately I'm old enough to remember their last regime. I've never voted for them in my life, nor would I - just like the vast majority of Scottish people.

We probably wouldn't have devolution today if it hadn't been for the fact that people here got so disgusted by having never voted the tories in, but being landed with their policies. They're doing rather a good job of encouraging Scottish Independence at the moment actually. (Not that I'm saying I'm particularly pro-independence - undecided on that one!).

Me too Leena, obviously most of the population fell for the lies they gave to get elected.
Scary times indeed for most, of course except extremely rich people.
Steal from the poor, give to the rich party.

Lets not forget Maggie the milk snatcher and house snatcher.
Because of her there is no affordable rental places, it all started before i was born and its now happening again!

poppy283 Tue 09-Oct-12 07:41:18

I'd vote labour if that vote would be worth anything, here in the se it's Tories or lib dems, spot the difference!

monkeysbignuts Tue 09-Oct-12 07:42:24

I remember Thatcher & Major. Nothing changes other than the face! Policy remains absurd as always!!

poppy283 Tue 09-Oct-12 07:45:54

Surely no-one would sign away those rights, they'd automatically be the first to go if any kind of savings had to be made.

Also, apparently this policy is aimed at SMEs, with a £2000 minimum? £2k might be a significant part of your business for a small company.

But yes, Yanbu, bunch of anti-woman, anti-youth, anti-poor, anti-minority cunts.

YANBU. I voted for them as David Cameron had been vocal about improving maternity services and ensuring private rooms for mothers to be and their families, have heard nothing on that since and my maternity care was poor 4 years ago now it is even worse.

My family have also voted for them since I can remember. Never again.

olgaga Tue 09-Oct-12 08:07:45

I am another Tory hater! who the fuck voted them in???

Well they didn't win the election, and let's not forget it's the snivelling Lib Dems who have put them in power.

At least you know what you're getting with the Tories, if anything the "say anything to get your vote" Lib Dems are worse.

I hope they are wiped from the face of the earth in 2015.

Are you listening Lib Dem Voice?

threesocksmorgan Tue 09-Oct-12 08:21:39

I didn't vote for them, But I think a lot of people were sucked in by the dscam con. the oh I am a loving carer stuff, then looked what he has done to other parents of disabled children, vile man

EauRouge Tue 09-Oct-12 08:34:13

I'll be queueing up waiting for the polls to open to vote Labour next time.

The stuff about signing employee rights away for shares is terrifying.

You forgot disablist.

flatpackhamster Tue 09-Oct-12 08:39:52

Oh noes, if only we had Labour back in power who gave us the Iraq War and PFI and the banking crisis and the dodgy dossier.
And the Bernie Ecclestone corruption scandal and the Hinjuda brothers corruption scandal and all the cash for votes scandals.

Do you want some cheese with that whine, OP?

Maybe we should just have a single epic thread for everyone who thinks that a post on 'Der Evul Torays' is either interesting or valuable or some sort of political protest.

Labour introduced ATOS. I don't trust any of the buggers.

I can still say I hate the Tories for what they are doing to my family.

Flisspaps Tue 09-Oct-12 08:42:38

Shellyboobs Technically no-one will vote for Miliband, as you vote for a party, not a person.

People were warned that this would happen as soon as the Coalition was formed, but the Tory supporters wouldn't have it. Labour weren't perfect, and yes, we'd have still bern squeezed, but my God, I can't imagine it would be half as painful as it is under the shower that's 'leading' us at the moment. This isn't a coalition, it's a Tory government with the Lib Dems warming seats and making up the numbers.

I agree with whoever said they're throwing everything they can in now as they won't get back in in 2015 - I said that to DH last night.

flapperghasted Tue 09-Oct-12 14:47:57

I lived through Maggie's year. Love the Elvis Costello song, tramp the dirt down. Can't believe another Tory government got into power. Hate the Lib Dems. I always thought they were a bit wishy-washy, but the way they've rolled over for the Tory dogs, is unreal.

I don't much like Milliband, but I generally approve of the labour party ethos. For me, they at least protect the vulnerable in society and that's good enough for me. ~I will probably end up paying for it, if Labour get in, as we're a fairly high earning family, but I was brought up to believe in the tax system we operate and I have no reason to stop believing in it, just cos I'm suffering as a result of it. 2015 can't come soon enough for me....

flatpackhamster Tue 09-Oct-12 18:35:33

flapperghasted

I don't much like Milliband, but I generally approve of the labour party ethos. For me, they at least protect the vulnerable in society and that's good enough for me.

You mean by letting 3 million migrants in to the country to push unskilled and semi-skilled British workers out of jobs? That sort of 'protecting the vulnerable'?

YouMayLogOut Tue 09-Oct-12 18:37:11

YANBU.

They are the Nasty Party.

flapperghasted Tue 09-Oct-12 19:45:09

flatpackhamster Oh yeah, and the Tories are doing a super job of addressing that too!!! Oh wait, not they're not are they? They're too damned busy robbing mothers, children, the disabled and the elderly whilst simultaneously protecting the welfare of the rich. Sounds like all the other conservative governments there have been in this country.

wtf1981 Tue 09-Oct-12 19:49:53

Public school freaks?

Labour/Lib Dem coalition?

And some of you on here think the people who voted for the Tories are deluded?

They are not perfect by any means but whose mess are they sorting?

monkeysbignuts Tue 09-Oct-12 19:52:00

well said flapperghasted!!
I am running to the pole station with my big X in the labour box.
Out with the toffs and in with the best of a bad bunch lol. Would much rather have labour back than sniveling shit head Nick Clegg or two faced single parent hater David Cameron!

wtf1981 Tue 09-Oct-12 19:53:35

Pole station? Or poll? Or,in fact,Polling Station?

monkeysbignuts Tue 09-Oct-12 19:53:38

wtf you do know the recession was global right? Or did that pass you by? Who's mess are they cleaning up?? Yeah that's right "the global economic crisis mess"

monkeysbignuts Tue 09-Oct-12 19:55:08

I love it when people have nothing better to pick on than someone's spellings! It just shows your not a very good at debating. Anything else you want to pick at?

PanonOlympus Tue 09-Oct-12 19:58:30

Flatbackhamster - classic Tory shit twist on the bigger picture. If there is an economic problem world wide, blame the 'immigrants' for taking jobs in this country. You really are a throw back.

ThatBloodyKnid Tue 09-Oct-12 19:59:08

YANBU. Bastards.

wtf1981 Tue 09-Oct-12 20:01:26

It's you're-not your.

That's all for now. Funny you're picking me up on that and not some of the ridiculous comments on here.

And no,it didn't pass me by.

Ps-whose not who's.

Woozley Tue 09-Oct-12 20:02:59

How much does the boss have to offer you to waive sex discrimination rights so he can grope your arse at will?

It's like nothing has happened in ToryWorld since 1975.

Labour indeed spent all the money when they should have been more careful, got us up shit creek without a paddle by getting into bed with the US in Iraq and Afghanistan, making us a major terrorist target, took away many of our civil liberties, brought in tuition fees at university, made the country a less equal society by allowing the rich to get massively richer on their watch...BUT the fact is the Coalition are making them look massively competent and rather decent.

Surely no-one will vote Conservative or LibDem again for a very long time after this unmitigated shower of shit?

monkeysbignuts Tue 09-Oct-12 20:03:19

seriously if you are just going to pull me up about spelling and grammar errors you obviously have nothing better to add to the debate!
bye bye wtf

NovackNGood Tue 09-Oct-12 20:03:41

Labour did nothing but create a culture of dependancy and the nly jobs they created where state paid non jobs reducing efficency and causing spiralling costs of government.

Elitist Ed is a loon who the Labour party need to ditch or they will have no hope come 2015 especially if people can see a real euro referendum in the pipeline.

wtf1981 Tue 09-Oct-12 20:06:05

Am off-it's not a debate,it's a playground and I was playing!

PanonOlympus Tue 09-Oct-12 20:07:21

"Labour did nothing but create a culture of dependancy"

Yes they contributed a dependency of a banking elite wildly misusing the nations wealth, and the Tories arguing sternly that there should be no regulation to stop this dependency culture.

Tweasels Tue 09-Oct-12 20:09:27

For anyone who mistakingly voted Tory thinking they would solve the financial crisis that Labour apparently got us into, can I just ask? At what point didn't you notice that there was a GLOBAL recession. It would be very impressive if the Labour Party caused that.

Whilst public spending was high, I have seen some of the amazing work and results in the public sector especially with children, families and vulnerable people. I am now seeing those marvellous services torn apart.

Even if the economy was stable and there were no deficit. The Tory's would still be cutting benefits and services to poorer people. They'll have been rubbing their hands with glee at being able to do it under the pretence of fixing the economy. I'm sorry to those of you who have been misled by Dave's big plastic face.

For the record, Ed Milliband is actually a very good politician. People need to stop worrying about what politicians look like and actually research what they stand for and believe in.

FFS, there's about 10 threads on here wanting Boris Fucking Johnson for PM.

Phew, glad that's out me system. As you were.

PanonOlympus Tue 09-Oct-12 20:10:06

When Tories want Labour to ditch their leader it's pretty clear why. Fear of being stuffed by them.

Tories not a bunch of women-hating, victim-blaming cunts? It's like trying to argue dog shit doesn't smell.

gordyslovesheep Tue 09-Oct-12 20:11:22

fucking well said Tweasels

monkeysbignuts Tue 09-Oct-12 20:12:31

tweasles & panon could not agree more!

monkeysbignuts Tue 09-Oct-12 20:13:13

seriously mnhq we need a "like" & "dislike" button!!

JacqueslePeacock Tue 09-Oct-12 20:17:28

YY Tweasels. Especially about the big plastic face.

NovackNGood Tue 09-Oct-12 20:18:42

Ed Milliband is an Elitist of the Elite playing at politics with no idea of the real world at all.

it was not a global recession it was a credit crisis that overly affected the UK due to the soft touch regulation Labour allowed to infect the city over their decade of power because they were happy to turn a blind eye as they spent spent spent not on capital projects or investing for the future but on buying off their base voters. The capital costs were all dumped on us for tomorrow by labour and their PFI nonsense.

Ponyofdoom Tue 09-Oct-12 20:19:03

The Tories have no choice on the economic front, the country's deficit is off the scale and if its not tackled we COULD end up like Greece. And Labour did contribute greatly to the mess, the UK was in a strong financial position to ride out the storm until Gordon and co p*ssed the revenue up the wall and sold off our gold at low value. They also spent billions on immoral pointless wars and brought in repressive laws. Having said that, I am not sure I can vote Tory again after Jeremy Hunt and co. being w*nkers, HS2 to destroy our countryside, plus I worry about the disabled being treated unfairly. No one else to vote for though..

PanonOlympus Tue 09-Oct-12 20:19:28

<pointing out the slight inconsistency in referring to 'plastic face' then argiung we shouldn't take appearances into account. But given that it's a Tory we can let it gogrin>

PanonOlympus Tue 09-Oct-12 20:22:48

Well the Tories didn't want even a 'soft touch' regulation and argued Labour were being 'nanny state' about it so Tories have no legs t ostand on on that one.

Labour made errors. But they are gleaming princes of economic management when compared to Gids and Conron.

NovackNGood Tue 09-Oct-12 20:30:10

LOL at labour were princes.

Yeah that is why the allowed Lehmans brothers to cock up so much and they allowed RBS to really mess up and the turned a blind eye to London being the global centre for credit default swaps and derivative trading that lead to AIG imploding. We are lucky the rest of the world is not coming asking more questions and expecting a pay back for bad oversight by Labour.

ATourchOfInsanity Tue 09-Oct-12 20:30:19

POny with you here. Can't ignore what Labour did but feel only option is LibDem.
However I may come around to this as I do feel they have been massively scapegoated and never stood a chance from the get go. They are a bit ideological but then which party isn't?
I guess I am thinking we can't knock it until we try it? Seems unfair that they never get a proper crack at the whip. Can't get much worse!

PanonOlympus Tue 09-Oct-12 20:33:18

yeeees Novack - that's rather my point. If it was left to the Tories then the regulation would have been exceedingly slacker and the shit piling up would have been much larger.

NovackNGood Tue 09-Oct-12 20:36:42

YOu cant pass the buck after a cock up of monstrous proportions and then say ah but the otehrs would have done worse. They were in a minority for 13 years and you had more than enough of a majority to sort things out but instead labour created a debt mountain that was neither invested in infrastructure or the economy.

The labour loons claimed to be building this that that and the next thing, except they were building using PFI nonsense that will burden budgets for decades to come.

DowagersHump Tue 09-Oct-12 20:38:52

And of course the tories wouldn't have anything to do with PFIs, would have imposed very strict banking regulations and saved the economy hmm

PanonOlympus Tue 09-Oct-12 20:42:01

Oh I agree Novack - PFI was a monumental selling out of state assets and handing over large parts of our nations future capital infrastructure to wheelers and dealers. It's utterly shameful. Ditto the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Trouble is...on both counts Tories were not opposed to either. iirc PFI was to be financed by companies who are/were Tory donors.

NovackNGood Tue 09-Oct-12 20:52:08

The differance is Labour had all the intelligence reports and lied to the nation. Tories had access to nothing. Same re PFI. How many of those dodgy contracts are now not standing up to scrutiny despite how the local councillors and MPS lauded how wonderful they were and look at the bright new hospital which we all now are paying far more for than a commercial loan would have cost.

The anti tories ravers on here come across as the Willard Romney supporters who try to claim they hate Obama for his policies but really they only hate him cause he is black. You Labour bunch loved the tory policies when it was Tony fronting them and turned a blind eye to his elitist background as it was only a Scottish boarding school hed been to. Like you claim to love Ed even though he is from the elite of the Elite and even went to school with Boris and pals then you bleat on about the Tory Etonians yadda yadda ya.

monkeysbignuts Tue 09-Oct-12 21:09:19

novack the recession has effected all countries world wide! How the hell Labour can be to blame I don't know? enlighten me please.
The only counties that are doing well now are those with the ability to manufacture and sell stuff, sadly Maggie thatcher and her cronies privatised all of our sources of revenue. Torys are to blame for the length of time it is taking us to pull out of this recession and they done that about 25 years ago!

NovackNGood Tue 09-Oct-12 21:11:33

Not all countries are in recession by any stretch of the imagination at all.

NovackNGood Tue 09-Oct-12 21:14:18

Privatisation was not a problem at all.

Labour allowing companies to register all there exports imports via tax havens to offshore profits to avoid UK tax however is another of Labours many after effects we are all paying for.

monkeysbignuts Tue 09-Oct-12 21:18:19

Australia is doing well now but it was effected by recession, same with Germany.
America are still suffering, Greece, UK to name a few.
Our lack of ability to manufacture stuff to sell is a cause of prolonged recession. privatisation does contribute to it.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim Tue 09-Oct-12 21:20:09

I have voted Tory at the last 2 elections but I'm afraid this employment rights stuff has caused me to throw in the towel. Bonkersness squared. they aren;t even pretending to run the country responsibly now.
If Labour could divorce itself from those directly implicated in the MASSIVE fiscal screw up they caused (and yes they did) they'd have a chance with people like me at the next election. Answer; exile Ed Balls, who is clearly mad, to the outer darkness. And replace little Ed with his big bro. If They do this I think they're a shoe-in in 2015.

NovackNGood Tue 09-Oct-12 21:20:41

Labour refused to use it's golden share in BAE and allowed them to kill off the civil airliner manufacturing in the UK in 2001 when BAE saw that defence was going to be the big big market with the wars and few were going to buy their civil aircraft.

They allowed BAE to sell the airliner wing manufacturing plant to EADS Airbus so that is the new merger goes ahead and france or germany need a job guarantee their is nothing the tories can do to stop these jobs being lost to the UK either now.

ATourchOfInsanity Tue 09-Oct-12 21:21:55

It's still a bit like choosing between two bad ex's though.

Have any countries got it right? Is there are party another country has that anyone thinks would do well in UK?

ATourchOfInsanity Tue 09-Oct-12 21:24:11

Don't mean to change topic, but we seem to have gone off the OP anyway as I don't think many people (any?) have said 'No, they are not misogynistic'.

I always seem to hear good things about Scandinavian countries, but this may just be the media picking and choosing.

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