to have said something to this man at the pool about his baby? Or should I have said something earlier?

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TickledOnion Sun 07-Oct-12 20:21:39

At DD1's swimming lesson today, a man got into the public bit of the pool with a 7 week old baby in just a swim nappy. The pool is at a private gym and quite a pleasant temperature for adults but too cold for an almost naked baby. I take DD2, 8mo, swimming there with a swim nappy, swim pants and a wet suit. (Possibly overkill, but she seems quite happy).

I was really unsure whether to say anything and asked another mum who agreed with me but also didn't say anything. They stayed in for about 10 minutes and then I saw them again in the family changing room. At this point I mentioned to the man that you can buy wetsuits for babies as it can be quite cold in the pool. He said he didn't know and asked where he could get one.

Should I have said something earlier? Or nothing at all? The baby didn't seem unhappy and luckily the man took my comments as well meaning advice rather than criticism. More a WWYD than AIBU?

cheesesarnie Sun 07-Oct-12 20:24:14

oh dear.

wwyd? erm.... kept my sticky beak out tbh.

fuzzysnout Sun 07-Oct-12 20:24:39

Sounds as though you did just the right thing smile

HollaAtMeBaby Sun 07-Oct-12 20:25:55

As the baby wasn't distressed, I think you should have MYOB. Would you have been so quick to "correct" a female carer?

HolyAutumnGoldBatman Sun 07-Oct-12 20:26:19

I think that sounds about right

LadyBeagleEyes Sun 07-Oct-12 20:27:16

You said the baby seemed quite happy.
It's really none of your business.

sherbetpips Sun 07-Oct-12 20:27:16

Only a totally unheated pool would be 'uncomfortable' (not life threatening) for a baby. If it had been unhappy it would have let dad know. Children need wet suits in the sea (the British sea) not the gym pool. If your daughter is happy and you are happy then that is great, It doesn't make what the dad was doing wrong though so no, I would not have said anything and would have thought it unreasonable if you had.

InvisibleHotPinkWeasel Sun 07-Oct-12 20:27:26

How did you work out the baby was 7 weeks confused

Coprolite Sun 07-Oct-12 20:27:37

I would have left a perfectly capable grown man to deal with his happy and un-distressed baby by himself.

gordyslovesheep Sun 07-Oct-12 20:27:51

blimey mine swam from very young (8 weeks+) and I never got a wetsuit - yabu and a bit silly

MrsKeithRichards Sun 07-Oct-12 20:28:04

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MerryCosIWonaGold Sun 07-Oct-12 20:28:09

I think babies are pretty good at making it clear if their needs aren't being met. If the baby was having a nice time, then I think it was ok. If it was screaming or even moaning continually then I would have suggested it may be because he/ she was cold.

I also think the clothes you put your 8mo in do sound a leeetle over protective.

Oh I would have said thank you too - I don't know very much about children and have zero self confidence so I always worry I'm getting it wrong; if someone just quietly mentioned that you could buy wetsuits for babies (which I didn't know - but then I don't take DS swimming because I hate water) - I would say thank you, I wouldn't mind! It all depends on how it's done but you don't sound at all judgey or unpleasant, just helpful.

Fairylea Sun 07-Oct-12 20:29:14

I hardly think ten minutes in the main pool in a swim nappy is an issue. The man obviously knew he couldn't be in there very long and not a lot of parents go for wet suits as they are not highly advertised.

Saying that you seemed nice enough about it so maybe you gave him a good idea smile

BeingFluffy Sun 07-Oct-12 20:29:34

I took DD swimming at about the same age - it was in the teaching pool at the public baths and an organised class by a specialist provider. The water was not warm but I assumed they knew what they were doing and none of the babies were distressed.

There is nothing wrong with chatting and sharing advice, but if someone had judged me I would have told them to FO.


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wigglesrock Sun 07-Oct-12 20:31:11

I have never used a wet suit for any of my 3 and they've all swam from 8 weeks or so. I wouldn't have opened my mouth, as other posters have said had the baby been cold everyone would have heard about it.

Why the actual jeff are people taking 7 week old babies for "swimming lessons"????

barleysugar Sun 07-Oct-12 20:31:40

Oh my goodness, I can't bear to see babies constricted in those horrid wetsuits- complete overkill. It's not sea swimming is it?

Pagwatch Sun 07-Oct-12 20:31:41

Wet suits?

Dear lord.

Casmama Sun 07-Oct-12 20:31:46

I think he was being very sensible only going in for ten mins and the baby sounds like it was fine.
However, I'm assuming you said it in a friendly manner and he appears to have taken it that way so I wouldn't over think it.

TheDetective Sun 07-Oct-12 20:31:49

YAB totally U.

You shouldn't have said anything, you sound like you have interfered in something completely ridiculously!

Nothing wrong in a baby just wearing a swim nappy - that is what they are for. For what it is worth, I put a swim nappy and some swim shorts on mine - not for warmth, but because I liked the shorts!

He was probably trying to be polite to you in his response. If you'd of said the same to me, I'd of asked you if you had taken your pills today grin sorry!

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos Sun 07-Oct-12 20:32:00

I don't think anything needed to be said. The baby would have let the entire pool know if there was something wrong with it.

Seven weeks does sound young though, when mine were babies I was told to wait until after two sets of immunisations.

MrsKeithRichards Sun 07-Oct-12 20:32:06

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BornToFolk Sun 07-Oct-12 20:32:14

I took DS swimming from 4 months in only a swimming nappy. It was a council run pool too.
I always thought that if DS appeared to be cold, I'd see about getting him a wetsuit but he always seemed happy enough so I never bothered.

They were only in the pool 10 mins and the baby was happy. None of your business.

EasilyBored Sun 07-Oct-12 20:32:19

Regardless of the temperature, shouldn't it have a neoprene overnappy on, rather than just the swim nappy? We've been to a couple of different pool and they all require you to have an overnappy, or at least two layers between baby bum and the water.

I bought a wetsuit thing for DS, but he prefers to just be in the swim nappy and over nappy bit. Think the wetsuits restrict their movement a bit.

I think you are bit UR.

RillaBlythe Sun 07-Oct-12 20:32:32

ivorhugh, your post made me sad! In this scenario, the parent WASN'T doing it wrong. His child was not in any danger & was content. So if this had been you, you would have felt unnecessarily undermined.

BrianButterfield Sun 07-Oct-12 20:32:36

DS went swimming at 7 weeks in just a swim nappy and little trunks. He was fine with a towel ready next to the pool to whisk him into. They let you know if they're not happy!

Kingcyrolophosarus Sun 07-Oct-12 20:33:03

Nah , myob

DawnOfTheDee Sun 07-Oct-12 20:33:12

I think YANBU. It sounds like you were passing on a 'tip' and seems he took it that way too.

Coprolite Sun 07-Oct-12 20:34:49

I have to say that I agree with TheDetective and I reckon you got a very polite response given the uneccessary and uncalled for interference.

RunnerHasbeen Sun 07-Oct-12 20:34:50

Everybody is fine, I would only have said something sooner if the baby had been distressed, which it doesn't sound like it was. Can't really see the issue TBH, although I don't think it was very nice to discuss it with the other mum like that. What would I have done, if I noticed? Probably gone up and asked how old, so cute, first time in the pool etc, general baby chat with the dad and if, and only if, baby was visibly unhappy I would say that DD had been the same, happier in wetsuit, not to worry or something. I wouldn't go out my way to correct him as don't think he did anything particularly bad.

TickledOnion Sun 07-Oct-12 20:34:52

Lots of responses.

Other mum overheard the man say that baby was 7 weeks old.

Fair enough that people think IABU. You are probably right about 10 mins in an indoor pool not doing any harm and that I am overreacting. You've actually made me feel better as I was genuinly worried about the baby, so I'm glad that people don't think there was any harm done.

alphabite Sun 07-Oct-12 20:35:28

Seriously? Kids don't need a blinkin wetsuit fgs. It won't do a baby any harm to just be in a swim nappy. Not your concern.

ravenAK Sun 07-Oct-12 20:35:34

No harm done if he didn't take offence, but I think I would have assumed that a cold baby would be a yowling baby & left him to it.

Bigwheel Sun 07-Oct-12 20:36:11

Yabu, I wonder what parents did before wet suits etc ......

BarredfromhavingStella Sun 07-Oct-12 20:36:14

The baby was fine, you should have minded your own. What would you do if someone came over to you & advised that you were ott with swim nappy, swim pants & a 'wet suit' hmm

BTW a wet suit takes in water & holds it there & then your body temp heats it up a bit so you have warmish water against your skin-is that really what your baby is wearing or is it just a long sleeve/leg swimsuit?

gordyslovesheep Sun 07-Oct-12 20:36:42

why on earth would you be worried about a baby that was perfectly happy and not distressed in any way ...

crypes Sun 07-Oct-12 20:37:37

yanbu and when you have a baby of your own you feel so.much more protective. Years, ago when my baby was, tiny I used to see a dad with a baby in a sling in middle of winter with baby with just babygro o' and no hat. I felt so worried, about that baby so I told a. elderly neighbour who then had a word with him becos I was too cowardly.

SomersetONeil Sun 07-Oct-12 20:38:01

Come on - as a Mum, you surely know that a 7-week old baby will TELL you in no uncertain terms if it's not happy! grin

I'm sorry, but I would've thought you were a busy-body if you'd said it to me when my baby was clearly fine.

TickledOnion Sun 07-Oct-12 20:38:27

My baby wears this sort of thing wetsuit
I think it really does keep her warm, though it is quite restrictive. Might try her without it in future.

RillaBlythe - I have since realised this from all of the 'wetsuits? hmm' comments! grin

OP, apparently wetsuits are not necessary. In which case YABU <easily swayed> - but I still think you sounded like you did it nicely, not snidey-like.

DelhiCalling Sun 07-Oct-12 20:39:38

Yanbu, you did the right thing.

TickledOnion Sun 07-Oct-12 20:39:48

Think the concensus is that IWBU. Luckily the man took it well.

Think I'll slink back off to Chat now. You are a scary lot wink

LucieMay Sun 07-Oct-12 20:43:36

I find is amusing that some people observe other people's children this closely. I don't really take that much notice unless they're screaming or something.

Greythorne Sun 07-Oct-12 20:44:07

I think you are very unreasonable...but very sweet and thoughtful. No harm in being a bit concerned about a baby's safety.

I work on the principle that babies have brilliant alarm systems for letting their carers know when something is up. Cold, hot, hungry, thirtsy, tired, fed up, lonely. A gurgling, smiley, quiet baby is probably OK.

Are babies not waterproof any more?


cbeebiesatemybrain Sun 07-Oct-12 20:45:37

I took both of mine swimming in just a swim nappy from about 8 weeks, they both lived to tell the tale. 10 minutes is really not very long anyway, we would usually stay for at least 20 minutes until dc started getting cold.

TickledOnion Sun 07-Oct-12 20:46:00

Thank you Greythorne - I've never been called unreasonable in such a nice way. smile.

Viviennemary Sun 07-Oct-12 20:48:21

I don't think I would have said anything. But on the other hand I think you acted with good intentions and the man seemed to know you were only being helpful. I don't really agree with taking small babies swimming. I think you can catch all sorts at swimming pools. Dons tin hat. I tried it when DD was very small and neither of us enjoyed it very much mainly because I was probably a nervous wreck.

GoldShip Sun 07-Oct-12 20:49:45

They don't need bloody wet suits.

sleeplessinderbyshire Sun 07-Oct-12 20:50:20

our swim school won't let babies under 3 months swim without a wetsuit unless the lesson is in a hydrotherapy pool. I take DD2 swimming and have done since 6 weeks, we swim in a hydrotherapy pool at 36 degrees (like a giant bath) when we took her swimming on holiday she wore a splashabout baby wetsuit. I think I'd have done as you did OP - i think it sounds as if you were helpful and tactful and informative

trixymalixy Sun 07-Oct-12 20:50:44

I think if the baby had been cold, everyone would have known all about it!!

The neoprene baby wetsuits do make a big difference. The baby swimming lessons I used to go to had them available to use if the babies were getting cold. I only used one once and DD was definitely more comfortable and stopped shivering.

secondseverncrossing Sun 07-Oct-12 20:50:49

I think YABU - the baby was being perfectly well cared for and clearly wasn't in any distress.

I don't understand why you felt you needed to involve another mother in it either?

I had a baby wetsuit for DD1 (PFB) which was handed down to DD2 who frequently refused to wear it and was no worse off it.

Wallace Sun 07-Oct-12 20:51:28

I did buy one opf those wet suits when my ds2 was tiny, but the pool was freezing!

3duracellbunnies Sun 07-Oct-12 20:51:48

I wouldn't have said anything, but I do put ds (3) in a wetsuit, but only cos purple lips don't really suit him but he loves the water and with a wetsuit we can stay in for over an hour. Maybe he will get a wet suit, maybe not, but I don't think swim suits keep them particularly warm and there was no need to say anything earlier as what would he have done, said 'oh didn't think of that, will just pop to the wetsuit shop and get one and be back in an hour.' At 2 months you don't really need to spend a long time in the water anyway, it is just familiarisation which is why mine just went in a cosy bath at that age

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 20:52:16

You sound like a nosy old busybody.

BertieBotts Sun 07-Oct-12 20:53:10

They were in for ten minutes!

I think the dad sounded fine and totally aware of his baby's temperature and comfort.

It was nice of you to recommend the swimsuit, but don't worry yourself that you didn't spare the baby that 10 minutes of getting wet, I'm sure it didn't mind.

In fact it was probably a good thing that you said so at the end - more tactful smile

Noqontrol Sun 07-Oct-12 20:53:38

I don't think there was any harm in passing on a tip, although the baby didn't sound distressed anyway. And I am certain that if the baby had been cold then he or she would have been quite vocal about it.

IneedAsockamnesty Sun 07-Oct-12 20:55:49

op, if i were that parent i would have smiled at you and politly reminded you that it was indoors in the uk and then in the sprit of being a friendly parent told you that companies that sell stuff like that wetsuit (for indoor pool use) inperticular that company do so to appeal towards those parents with more money than sense.then told you that you didnt need to fall for it as useless baby related products do not make you a better parent.

CookingFunt Sun 07-Oct-12 20:56:40

The summer dc2 was born was a scorcher and we used to bring her into our pool naked. Oh how I used to rush dc1 to school so I could get into the pool when I was pregnant.
So yabu.

CookingFunt Sun 07-Oct-12 20:59:07

Our own pool,not naked swimming in a public one. Its one of those inflatable ones with a ladder and temp thing.

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 21:00:22

Just because it's AIBU certain posters have to be insulting and have a rant. OP was genuinely worried, albeit misguided. She has been pleasant and spoke to the man nicely. He may well have been glad of the info. I have never used a wet suit, but friends who have, really like them as they can swim longer without their DC turning blue.

Scheherezade Sun 07-Oct-12 21:01:17


Bit unfair. I wasn't able to take my DS swimming till I got him a wetsuit as he would just scream and get very distressed. Now I have a lovely neoprene suit (for a bargain off ebay) he loves going to the pool smile

MousyMouse Sun 07-Oct-12 21:01:22

it was only a short time, baby didn't seem distressed or blue with cold.

maddening Sun 07-Oct-12 21:01:27

If it is a leisure pool then they are at a slightly higher temp nearer 30¤.

When we go to the baby swim lessons they have the pool at about 32¤ and no need for wetsuits for a 30minesson so the baby was likely fine.

If it was a lot lower then the baby mighty need a wetsuit or to come out v soon e.g. 10mins - so all was probably well.

Yanbu as you obviously approached the man in a nice way and the wetsuit mighty allow him to swim for longer with his dc.

EugenesAxe Sun 07-Oct-12 21:01:51

Good grief... you have come in for a lot of stick on this thread Onion. OK, so the child wasn't going to get hypothermia with a ten minute swim but I don't think it would have hurt to have let him know. I don't get the impression you said it agressively, or with a highly disapproving tone, in which case YWHBU.

And baby wetsuits are wetsuits... not just 'long sleeved swimsuits'. FWIW when I took DS to baby swimming lessons, we all had to dress up our children in the get-up you describe. Only in a hydrotherapy pool of 30 degs+ was it OK to stick them in wearing a swim nappy and 'happy nappy'.

Scheherezade Sun 07-Oct-12 21:02:25

Sorry, that was in reply to sock

maddening Sun 07-Oct-12 21:03:29

Might not mighty confused

TheDetective Sun 07-Oct-12 21:03:43

And what would they have done if you said you weren't going to put the 'wetsuit' on?!

Freedom of choice.... thank god...!

TickledOnion Sun 07-Oct-12 21:04:02

Thanks DoMeDon. I decided to ignore the rude comments but I can see how things can easily turn into a bunfight if you don't.

IneedAsockamnesty Sun 07-Oct-12 21:06:01

fwiw, if the baby had of been showing any sign of distress then i wouldnt reply like that.

but you gave a 'helpful' tip to a parent that clearly had no need for it, sorry but that smacks of superiorty and isant nice even if you thought your heart was in the right place it wasnt unless they needed the tip.

TickledOnion Sun 07-Oct-12 21:06:38

I guess some people can work themselves up over the smallest things.
EugenesAxe sounds like we went to similar lessons. That's what I was basing my opinion on.

Fair enough to tell him that wetsuits exist, I don't think you were being rude and I'm sure your intentions were good. But I'd agree with others that babies don't need them, and you're being precious to think they do. Mine coped fine without. Any half-competent parent keeps and eye in their child's temperature in the pool.

Merinda Sun 07-Oct-12 21:17:29

YANBU. Our swimming school also recommends wetsuits for babies, most of them wear one. The few who do not end up shivering. The temperatures in public pools can vary quite a bit. When our pool gets re-filled it is quite cold.

I would have appreciated advice like that, do not see anything wrong with what you did.

Scheherezade Sun 07-Oct-12 21:18:00

sock but you didn't comment on whether the baby needed one, you said baby wetsuits were "another useless baby related product" and "for parents with more money than sense".

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EverybodysSpookyEyed Sun 07-Oct-12 21:24:04

Can I ask - I think someone else asked up thread - would you have said it if it had been the baby's mum?

wigglesrock Sun 07-Oct-12 21:27:31

I would have thought that had the man been interested in baby wetsuits, he would have approached you or one of the other Mums after swimming and said "by the way, do you rate those suits?", "do you think they're any good?" etc - thats what I do when somone has something baby related I think might be handy.

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 21:28:28

Monkey - it is unnecessary to call OP a twat and against guidelines. If you read thread, she has admitted she was wrong about needing a wet suit and why she thought young babies wanted them. I assume you are never wrong? If the man's confidence was shattered by a piece of information "you can buy wetsuits for babies as it can be quite cold in the pool", then he is as insecure as your posting style sounds.

GoSakuramachi Sun 07-Oct-12 21:29:50

That doesn't keep a baby warm, you dingbat. See how much skin is exposed? It does NOTHING to retain heat.

IneedAsockamnesty Sun 07-Oct-12 21:29:58

scheherezade i didnt need to as it was obvious from the op that the baby didnt need one and was in no distress and only in the pool for ten mins.

and i also specified in my post that wet suits for indoor pool use are a useless baby related product for parents with more money than sense, or do you feel i should have also specified for a baby who is not distressed by pool temps.

wet suits? For a pool ? confused

Sure you dont mean "cottonwool"? wink

zookeeper Sun 07-Oct-12 21:32:28

a wet suit? In a pool? I will never understand how some parents make such hard work of babies.

Neednewjeans Sun 07-Oct-12 21:35:49

Wet suits? Babies? Swimming pools? Eh?

Think OP has maybe got the point now, having already admitted she thinks she was BU. Some of you could start a fight in an empty room confused

hmm at insecure posting style.

Im just a bitch Im afraid.

And I get to the point instead of floating around it.

Go swimming. Concentrate on your own bloody business.

God help the OP if she ever saw a baby that really did need intervention.

Neednewjeans Sun 07-Oct-12 21:36:17

You sound nosey and gossipy

Coprolite Sun 07-Oct-12 21:38:11

I really think that to try to help if the baby is obviously distressed and the parent/carer looks lost is one thing....
But this baby was perfectly ok in the hands of a seemingly perfectly capable adult who was being very sensible about having baby in the water for a short period.
Having said that,you sound lovely op,and I think the response you got must have reflected your approach being made out of concern rather than anything else.

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 21:38:17

Some babies really hate the water if it is too cold for their tastes. My DD would happily go in freezing cold water - she is a water baby for sure. My friends son screamed during swimming if temp was slightly cooler than a bath, she borrowed a wet suit from another mum and he was happy. I don't get why anyone is frothing at the mouth about this confused

MainlyMaynie Sun 07-Oct-12 21:38:58

I think very young babies are noticeably more comfortable in the wetsuit/wrap things. I also think neoprene nappy covers should always be compulsory.

Neednewjeans Sun 07-Oct-12 21:41:22

Pfft at 'our swimming school'. I bet they recommend the wetsuits with Water Babies Rock/ Puddle Ducks Rule emblazoned across the side do they? Bloody baby swim lessons. Sorry pregnancy hormones making me narky.

Merinda Sun 07-Oct-12 21:43:03

And yes, a wetsuit does keep the heat in. My baby is much happier in one than without one.

MayTheOddsBeEverInYourFavour Sun 07-Oct-12 21:45:44


Would you really be happy if some random stranger decided to criticise your parenting? If he had been putting the baby in danger then that's different but obviously both baby and dad were quite happy

You were also assuming you knew more than him, maybe he's a dab hand at the baby swimming thing? I was advised once by a pregnant woman with no other dc that I was breast feeding my baby 'all wrong' I did (nicely) explain that actually he was number 6 and I had bfed them all so I was pretty happy with how it was going, she insisted I was wrong because she had just been on a course about it hmm grin

hazeyjane Sun 07-Oct-12 21:46:40

GoSakuramachi they do keep a baby warm, someone lent me something similar for ds, but it turns out he is rubbish at regulating his temperature and so he overheats in the pool when he wears one!

Flossiecombover Sun 07-Oct-12 21:47:12

I think it's the way that you say it that could cause offence.You sound lovely -unlike some of the posters on here.Why do people feel the need to name call?Babies struggle to regulate their body temperature,a wetsuit helps to retain warmth?What is the issue?The baby would soon let you know if it was in distress either way.

GoSakuramachi Sun 07-Oct-12 21:47:13

it couldn't possibly keep any heat in. Look at the link. Not physically possible.
Just makes you feel a bit better about your pfb.

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 22:01:55

It's the gossiping about it with another Mum that bugged me. Poor bloke enjoying his swim with his baby no doubt, while two women gossip about how he's fallen short, when actually he hasn't at all.

Merinda Sun 07-Oct-12 22:03:03

GoSakuramachi, I do not need to look at the link. I own one, and it does work. I am not sure why you think it is not physically possible. Have you ever worn anything made of neoprene?

GoSakuramachi Sun 07-Oct-12 22:27:17

Yes. But if your entire arms, legs, neck and all are not covered by neoprene, and the area that is is not watertight, there is no mechanism to retain heat. Thats not my opinion, thats physics.

Pixel Sun 07-Oct-12 22:28:16

I think they look useful actually.

Must give good grip, babies can be slippery little devils grin.

DeepPurple Sun 07-Oct-12 22:31:17

There is really no need for a wet suit.

trixymalixy Sun 07-Oct-12 22:42:47

The need for something extra to keep a baby warm is dependant in the individual pool temperature, fairly obviously.

I don't own one, I borrowed one when the pool temperature was lower than usual. DD went from shivering to being fine. They do work.

GoSakuramachi Sun 07-Oct-12 22:43:56

They don't. <that pesky physics again>

GoldShip Sun 07-Oct-12 22:45:17

Just another way for companies to make money.

trixymalixy Sun 07-Oct-12 22:50:35

Ah, so I guess those shortie wetsuits that surfers wear don't work either because they are not completely covered hmm. Or even the long neoprene wetsuits that surfers wear that arent conpletely watertight. Only dry suits are completely watertight.

I guess all those people are wasting their money on non watertight wetsuits. hmm

Have you ever worn one?

GoSakuramachi Sun 07-Oct-12 22:52:27

any of that might be relevant if the product being talked about was in anyway a wetsuit. It isn't.

GoldShip Sun 07-Oct-12 22:54:56

Trixy have you ever worn a proper wetsuit? These baby ones are not wetsuits in the sense of the word

If they were you wouldn't even be able to get baby in one!

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 22:58:44

So despite people saying they work, who have experience of them working, you know better hmm

Way2Go Sun 07-Oct-12 22:59:58

I think what you did sounds about right.

I not sure why some posters have to be so rude and unpleasant. sad

PedanticPanda Sun 07-Oct-12 23:03:51

Yabu, for gossiping about him to someone else and for approaching him with the comment about the wetsuit. He was only there for ten minutes fgs, if the baby was very uncomfortable I'm sure it would have found a way to let its dad know.

GoSakuramachi Sun 07-Oct-12 23:04:48

People say homeopathy and reiki work too, and they don't.

Rude and unpleasant was the OP butting in with someone taking their kid swimming in an entirely normal fashion.

cansu Sun 07-Oct-12 23:05:00

I am actually shocked that you would think it Ok to give this man unsolicited baby care advice. I actually think that the baby would be colder in one of these suits and think your worry is OTT. You are incredibly lucky that this parent was obviously calm, reasonable type or perhaps just very surprised. How would you feel if someone approached you and suggested for example that your child needed their coat or gloves or whatever. I thought when I opened this thread I was going to read about someone doing something dangerous, not taking their baby in a heated pool. Honestly utterly mad!

trixymalixy Sun 07-Oct-12 23:06:37

Umm yes I have.

I have also seen with my own eyes my DD going from shivering to not shivering wearing one of those baby wetsuits. Have you used one?

BigFatLegsInWoolyTIghts Sun 07-Oct-12 23:09:52

She only mentioned it...I dont think she was being unreasonable. My DD2 used to shiver and go pale in the pool and I never once thought of a wetsuit. I just used to get her out fast.

BigFatLegsInWoolyTIghts Sun 07-Oct-12 23:10:42

cansu "You are ACTUALLY SHOCKED that another parent DARED to share some knowledge?

Love to see you when someone does something really bad! grin

BigFatLegsInWoolyTIghts Sun 07-Oct-12 23:12:02

lol at this thread! All she said was "You can get wetsuits for babies..the pools can be quite cold"


"You foolish man your child is FREEZING! How COULD you do that to him!!!"

or anything.

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 23:12:28

Agree entirely with the last paragraph of your last post gosakura.

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 23:13:37

No she didn't need to say that to him because she had already had a good old gossip with the other Mum about it.

BigFatLegsInWoolyTIghts Sun 07-Oct-12 23:16:27

So what? Who cares if she asked another Mum for advice about mentioning it?? She hardly dragged his good name through the mud did she? grin this thread is really silly. All going off about something so minor.

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 23:17:04

Just like the op did.

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 23:18:03

Asked another mum - not gossiped. Normal human interaction seems to be slipping by.

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 23:18:50

She didn't go off though - she has been thoroughly pleasant throughout, despite the frothing and name calling.

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 23:19:11

How did the all the babies manage to go swimming WITHOUT wetsuits for all those years I wonder? confused I don't think I have ever actually seen a baby in one in an indoor pool. I would think the OP was a complete loon if she approached me to tell me my baby should be in a wetsuit.

BigFatLegsInWoolyTIghts Sun 07-Oct-12 23:19:45

No no Don...I meant all the weird's on here picking on her...they went off on a big silly rant. not the OP.

procrastinor Sun 07-Oct-12 23:20:02

Lordy she didn't wade over to beat the man over the head with a catalogue for wetsuits. She checked with another mom that she wasn't being crazy even though she was and had a polite passing chat with the man as he left.

OP I think you're wrong but hey ho no harm done.

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 23:22:50

I bet Dad doesn't feel great for getting it "wrong" though. Don't we all worry ourselves sick over our PFB's? If someone actually approaches you to tell you you're getting it wrong I think that would feel awful.

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 23:22:55

I know Big - I was agreeing with you. Not ultra clear from my wording blush grin

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 23:24:15

She didn't say he got it wrong and if that was his interpretation of a piece of information, he would be over sensitive.

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 23:24:45

I don't agree with that at all domedon.

VivaLeBeaver Sun 07-Oct-12 23:24:56

You do know that 12 years ago when dd was a baby they didn't make wetsuits for babies. She went in the pool from 6 weeks old and loved it.

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 23:26:49

Any reason why? Obviously your right to disagree and not justify but makes for little debate.

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 23:27:41

Think we established that they are unnecessary on page 1 Viva.

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 23:30:09

I don't think that it's for you to say someone is oversensitive because they might worry that they are not doing the right thing for their child after a comment from a random stranger.

I think that the majority of first time clueless parents would be concerned that a. They had got it wrong and caused their child discomfort and b. If they didn't get this wetsuit then would they be perceived as being neglectful by others.

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 23:30:24

Exactly viva.

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 23:37:00

I do think it is my place to say when someone is being over sensitive. I am happy with my ability to assess a situation and find the reasonable middle ground (I do it for a living and am successful). Most new parents are over sensitive about something at some point, it comes from insecurity. Most of us can look back and admit that we were over sensitive about things like criticism.

He asked where he could get one, he sounded interested and OP said he took it as the well meaning advice it was. FWIW if he had been worried after that would also be a sign of insecurity.

DD had one of those wetsuits when she was a baby - it did keep her warm, unless I was imagining the warm water that used to pour out when I took it off her. And while it wasn't absolutely necessary, it was rather handy as it allowed us to go I the pool for more than ten minutes. So YANBU not to have said something earlier, as the baby wasn't in danger or discomfort, but IMO YANBU to have said something when you did, as you may have given the chap a tip to allow longer swimming sessions.

akaemmafrost Sun 07-Oct-12 23:39:20

Like I said I disagree with you entirely.

BigFatLegsInWoolyTIghts Sun 07-Oct-12 23:41:03

Exactly Don nowhere did the OP "criticize" him. If I had a pound for every valuable snipped that other parents have given me...well....I'd not be on here rabbiting about shite that's for sure! grin

BigFatLegsInWoolyTIghts Sun 07-Oct-12 23:41:21

Snippet. Not SNIPPED!

DoMeDon Sun 07-Oct-12 23:42:18

grin me either Big

EugenesAxe Mon 08-Oct-12 04:11:34

I can't believe there are people on here who think wetsuits don't work because water gets in. Erm - that's why wetsuits are called wet and drysuits are called dry!

The water goes in and your body heats it up; the neoprene prevents it from being washed away, effectively, and holds the layer of warm water next to the part of the body that's wrapped in neoprene. In the baby's case, it's core. Hence lack of shivering when wetsuits are used.

Homeopathy doesn't work; true. Wetsuits do!

EugenesAxe Mon 08-Oct-12 04:13:07

Its core, sorry. Meant to say I back what trixy has said.

armedtotheteeth Mon 08-Oct-12 04:36:03

I wouldn't personally take my own young baby in an adult pool without a wetsuit (dd's lips used to turn blue pretty quickly without one even in the warm learner pool). I've never actually bought one, just borrowed one at lessons and have since been handed down one and they're very effective and not too restrictive as they only cover the torso unlike adult wetsuits.

I don't think you said anything out of order. Probably wouldn't have got involved myself, but it doesn't sound as if he minded.

Really the only mistake you made was to post in aibu grin

VivaLeBeaver Mon 08-Oct-12 07:44:07

Wetsuits also work because you the baby wees in them and the warm wee stays next to the skin. <ex surfer>

TickledOnion Mon 08-Oct-12 07:45:34

Blimey, is this thing still going? I went to bed at 9 and it looks like I missed all the fun.

GoSakuramachi Mon 08-Oct-12 08:26:26

Wetsuits work. The linked to product is in no way a wetsuit. Is that so hard to grasp?

BonnyDay Mon 08-Oct-12 08:30:58

i never used a wet suuit on any of mine

differentnameforthis Mon 08-Oct-12 08:39:57

Does he need to put a swim suit on baby before he bathes it too?

If baby wasn't unhappy, I don't see the issue.

differentnameforthis Mon 08-Oct-12 08:42:50

Why the actual jeff are people taking 7 week old babies for "swimming lessons"????

Baby wasn't at swimming lessons, OP was!

It is amazing how many lengths people go to in order to keep their babies less miserable just because mum wants to be "proper" middle class and take their little babies "swimming".

<eye roll emoticon>

DelhiCalling Mon 08-Oct-12 08:50:23

Yanbu. I took dc swimming without a wetsuit and he got cold and cried. I bought a wetsuit like the ops and he stays warm. My experience is that they work. I'd rather spend twenty pounds on one than risk a cold baby, do all you wetsuit critics bathe your babies in cold baths too? Babies do get cold you know and most pools are less than the 35 degrees recommended for babies, hence a wetsuit is essential.

"do all you wetsuit critics bathe your babies in cold baths too? "

Dont be ridiculous. Babies need a bath. They dont need to go to the pool! (Even if mum does wink )

Have you never heard of mixer taps? grin

hazeyjane Mon 08-Oct-12 09:12:48

Delhicalling, a wetsuit is not essential unless your baby gets really cold, and is starting to turn blue or screaming the place down.

I took ds swimming from a really young age because it was one of the few times he seemed to be happy (big screamer due to reflux), it made me feel happy to be doing something happy and positive with him and as it turns out it was great for him too because he has low muscle tone.

I hate the idea that doing things like swimming or singing groups are only done by middle class mums out of some sort of show offy, middle class angst - it's bollocks. I have done all sorts of activities with all 3 of my dcs and have met all sorts of people from all walks of life, all having a nice time doing stuff with their dcs, what the fuck is wrong with that!

halcyondays Mon 08-Oct-12 09:22:28

Seriously?! I don't think I've ever seen a baby in a wetsuit at a pool, and most of the ones I've been to have probably been chillier than the one you were at. I've only seen them in swim nappies and ordinary swimsuits or trunks.

crackcrackcrak Mon 08-Oct-12 09:26:22

Yanbu. I think your commenters helpful. Though the baby doesn't suing distressed I am tired of seeing blue babies in swimming pools when you can get a wetsuit quite cheaply.

MerryCosIWonaGold Mon 08-Oct-12 09:28:49

crackcrack, blue babies in swimming pools shock

that sounds dreadful

I've never, ever seen one!

trixymalixy Mon 08-Oct-12 09:38:05

I agree wetsuits are not essential to take a baby swimming as long as the pool is warm enough. I've taken my two swimming every week since they were very small, they are now 3 and 5 and only once has it been cold enough that we needed one but in that case it did work.

And here we go with the sneering, most babies enjoy being in the water, the Mums enjoy taking their baby swimming and in my case it got me out of the house and gave me something to do as I was really struggling with my mental health on my first mat leave. What exactly is wrong with that and what do you feel you achieve by sneering? Does it make you feel superior in some way?

Who is it nice for, if the children are turning blue and screaming?

Or the children are cold, and miserable, and rather than giving up on the idea, people try to force the issue forking out on wetsuits? If baby is miserable, why keep trying?

LadyMargolotta Mon 08-Oct-12 09:41:56

If the baby was happy, then he/she was clearly warm enough.

My children are on the skinny side, and even though I had a long sleeved top for dd2, she would shiver in some swimming pools, and believe me, that is very obvious.

trixymalixy Mon 08-Oct-12 09:43:22

Read my last post. Only once in 8 years of swimming has the pool been a bit cold. The rest of the time no one was blue or screaming, the rest of the time we loved it.

Weirdly, the council pool we go to is a hell of a lot warmer than the pool we do Water Babies in. Never mind my baby; I get cold in the latter!

And I agree with trixy - bugger off with the sneering. My daughter loves swimming and I get to have a conversation with other adults. I'm not seeing a problem here.

Startailoforangeandgold Mon 08-Oct-12 10:48:28

WTF Both DDs swam from tiny in our local pools. No baby pools and not particularly warm. You just don't stay in too long.

You couldn't even get wetsuits for babies when mine were small and the 2 youngest are still at primary (ok maybe you could get them when ds3 was small, but as I'd had two older ones who had survived various pools without them I didn't bother).

alienreflux Mon 08-Oct-12 10:53:51

poor git, i know how he feels!! i never considered that a swim nappy would not be ok when i took both of mine to the pool from around 8 weeks, in just swim nappies!?? the baby pool is always toasty, and i even now thought wet suits don't actually keep you warm?!
It just shows you don't get ta bloody manual, so how are you gonna know? but then, mine loved it, and never felt cold, so who's to say you are right anyway?
you're intentions were good though, and luckily he didn't mind or he could have told you to swim off!!

alienreflux Mon 08-Oct-12 10:56:20

quintessentialshadows miserable blue babies WTAF are you on about??!! my kids LOVE swimming, you obviously can't be arsed to take yours so make it all sneery and cruel. twat.

Treaclesmart Mon 08-Oct-12 10:56:37

He probably feels rubbish now and he was having a nice time with his little baby :-(
I think you were unreasonable. Mine never wore wetsuits and were never blue!!

klmnop Mon 08-Oct-12 11:02:43

You don't need to wait until a baby has had its immunisations to go swimming. I took my little girl for lessons from 10 weeks old and the youngest in the class was 5 weeks. These aren't lessons in the shape of teaching strokes (lol) rather a set of tasks and techniques which help them and parent get confident and comfortable in the pool.

In answer to the OP's question YABU. I always think, unless someone is breaking rules, it's best to say nothing!

SamSmalaidh Mon 08-Oct-12 11:03:33

I don't think the OP said anything nasty, she didn't criticise, just gave him some information! It would have been different if she'd said "it's too cold for your baby, you should get a wetsuit".

I got a wetsuit (not a long sleeved swimming costume, an actual little sleeveless wetsuit) for DS as a baby as he gets cold quickly and our local pool is not toasty warm. The first time I took him he didn't cry, he just shivered and his lips went blue. Anyway, he was quite happy in a wetsuit until he was about 18 months - though he still gets cold quickly now.

However, if this bloke was only in the water for 10 minutes and the baby didn't complain, chances are it wasn't too cold.

allienreflux, why do you take my post personally when I am talking about babies who are clearly miserable in water? Yours love swimming you say.

So do mine, they are 10 and 7, and we are in the pool once or twice a week for the last 4-5 years....

I have seen enough parents with tiny shivering babies with goosebumps and blue lips, sobbing in the water. I dont see why on earth they need to do this, when the mum and baby pool is nice and warm, but small. Oh no, they go in the big pool, which is cold, and where people are swimming lengths in the lanes! To whose benefit do they do this? hmm

I have re read my posts on this thread, and I really fail to see that I have said anything that justifies calling me CRUEL, SNEERY and TWAT.


Care to explain your comments, alienreflux?

Numberlock Mon 08-Oct-12 11:31:53

Reading this thread, my 17 year old sons should be thanking their lucky stars they survived going to the swimming pool as babies in just a pair of trunks without wetsuits, snorkels or whatever else you have to wear these days!

theodorakis Mon 08-Oct-12 13:06:53

Sorry but he probably told this story to his friends and I bet they all laughed.

And what Mrskeithrichards said, every last letter.

theodorakis Mon 08-Oct-12 13:07:41

What did the Police say?

theodorakis Mon 08-Oct-12 13:10:44

I am sorry, I hate sneery MN repliers as well but really and truly....did you think people would be posting shocked faces? If so, maybe you are a bit naive and a nice person rather than a judgy supermum.

alienreflux Mon 08-Oct-12 14:15:44

It is amazing how many lengths people go to in order to keep their babies less miserable just because mum wants to be "proper" middle class and take their little babies "swimming".

<eye roll emoticon>

you don't think that's sneery and a bit twatty? if i have massively misunderstood, apologies, i'm a bit pissed off with some of the twats on MN today, but don't think i have

VivaLeBeaver Mon 08-Oct-12 14:17:29

My HV gave me some guff about not taking baby swimming till its had its immunisations. I thought this over for all of about 10 seconds and then decided that the risk of dd getting diptheria, polio, tetanus or whooping cough from swimming were fairly remote.

Woozley Mon 08-Oct-12 14:21:17

We took DDs swimming just after they had had first injections, wearing only swim nappies. We took them out when it appeared they were getting cold. hmm And a massive biscuit

afussyphase Mon 08-Oct-12 14:23:22

I'm going to go with YANBU. DD1 would swim until her lips turned blue and she was shivering, perfectly happily. She might or might not have had a meltdown afterwards, but that might have been not wanting to get out! Even now she lets herself get way too cold when she swims, and I don't think it's good for her. There's some evidence out there that while being too cold doesn't in itself make you (much) more at risk of succumbing to viruses (which are always out there especially in winter!), being cold and wet does. Some babies love the water even if they are way too cold, and they won't always let you know soon enough.

shockshockshock Ten minutes?!?

grin OP, I think this was a 'beak out' situation, but telling him officiously that you can buy expensive baby wetsuits was probably about right.

TBH, if it had been me with my own 7 wk old on our first trip to the pool, a very short dip to acclimatise the baby to being in a pool, and held close to my own warm body (as you would with such a tiny baby), I'd have been quite pissed off about the passive aggressive 'advice' but hey.

Woozley Mon 08-Oct-12 14:36:49

I'd have said "Thanks, but I think it's a huge waste of money to buy a wetsuit for a child this young".

Way2Go Mon 08-Oct-12 16:07:10

I'd have said
thanks for letting me know, I didn't know that. Do you know where I can get one? I am so pleased you told me as it would be fun to spend longer in the pool before the baby gets cold. You have been really helpful

It is a shame that some people look to take offense where none is intended. The guy at the pool would not have asked the OP where he could get a wetsuit if he had been annoyed.

I didn't realise that taking babies swimming was middle class. I've never taken mine - does that make me lower class or posh? Def posh I reckon

It makes you either Posh Or Chav. wink

Posh, I think. grin

Way2Go Mon 08-Oct-12 18:10:43

I took DS2 swimming when he was 6 weeks old but he made it very clear that it was a big mistake. probably because he didn't have a wetsuit

So does that make me middle class with a posh DS confused he is definitely not a Chav

<preens> (poshly)

dementedma Mon 08-Oct-12 21:13:03

Wetsuits for babies not an issue when mine were young. They swam, and I took them out when they got cold. Think its a bit unnecessary but up to the individual what they waste their money on I suppose. Even worse, when we were young,we learned to swim in unheated pools and outdoors in the sea. Now in Scotland,that is seriously cold. Amazingly, we all lived.

MerryCosIWonaGold Mon 08-Oct-12 21:38:01

Way2Go. The point about middle class swimming with babies is that it's about the parents enjoying it and DOOOOOWING something STIMULATING and EDUCATIONAL and VISIBLE (to other MC parents). Doesn't matter if their kid would have just as much fun (and learn as much) sitting at home in their highchair and talking to Mummy. So your ds is neither posh nor chav. But you are clearly one or the other, or an MC Mum with head screwed on! (there are a few wink)

suebfg Mon 08-Oct-12 21:42:48

I think you were being a tad unreasonable. A costume doesn't keep you warm anyway - it's just to cover your modesty.

Woozley Mon 08-Oct-12 23:36:27

How odd to think taking babies swimming by yourself is middle class, or somehow "entitled". It's just something else to do with them isn't it? So what if the parents get enjoyment out of it? Good for them. It might stop them getting depressed that day because they got out of the house with their little one.

akaemmafrost Mon 08-Oct-12 23:41:54

Swimming wears babies out because its massively stimulating and it makes them sleep for ages that's why I did it. We still swim a lot and I am most definitely NOT middle class.

Greythorne Tue 09-Oct-12 08:58:14

Hen I was at home by myself with a baby, no family support, very few friends around, I looked forward to our weekly swimming sessions for so many reasons:

It gave us a structure to the day
Got us out of the house
Was a great bonding experience
Was fun
I made friends there
Allowed DD1 to feel at ease in the water which has helped loads with swimming lessons now she is 5
Got her to sleep like a top because she was so exhausted

So kill me.

Merinda Tue 09-Oct-12 11:54:02

Well, I take my baby swimming because I want him not to be afraid of water (like I am) and be able to swim (I cannot). Using their natural reflexes is much easier than try to teach them much later when they may not want to do it. I consider swimming to be an essential life skill and very mad at my parents for not teaching me when I was a kid.
It is also a good time to do it while I am on maternity, when I go to work I will not have that opportunity.
It tires him out and he can get a good afternoon nap afterwards, something he struggles to do as he is a bad sleeper. It relaxes him as he is not well and it distracts him from pain he is frequently in. A very therapeutic experience.

I am surprised that someone would even question this.

Woozley Tue 09-Oct-12 14:01:22

Exactly Merinda & Greythorne. Excellently put.

NorthWhittering Tue 09-Oct-12 16:22:15

We took DS to a free trial session when he was a baby. He fell asleep afterwards – the first time he had ever spontaneously slept. We signed up on the spot grin

theodorakis Tue 09-Oct-12 16:26:04

You can always tell the posh ones, they are the babies weighed down because their cotton wool wrapping gets heavy in water.

MerryCosIWonaGold Tue 09-Oct-12 19:44:21

theo, or because they are wearing miniature wetsuits wink!

pongysticks Tue 09-Oct-12 19:51:08

Seriously? would you go up to someone on the street if the child doesn't have a coat on and recommend where they could buy one?

These silly wetsuits and sunsuits, does anyone else play spot the british kid on holidays? they will be the ones wrapped up against the sun, the insects and the cold - grin

we survived without wetsuits it's just marketing crap, if anything unless you are out surfing or in the sea a wetsuit in a swimming pool just creates a whole new load of faff.

Mylittlepuds Tue 09-Oct-12 19:59:05

Merry I absolutely agree. I signed up DS to one of the franchise swimming lessons as other mums had RAVED about it. I will make no bones about saying IT WAS SHIT. We all went round (and round) in a circle arms outstretched, babies at the end. For an hour. My arms ached. Afterwards - despite me being there in the pool witnessing the same lesson of most of the babies screaming - another of the mums went on to bang on and on and on about it to other mums at baby group saying her 9 week old so loved it (pfft) not forgetting to mention the hefty price tag. We stopped going after the first lesson as DS was hospitalised with gastroenteritis (no they wouldn't refund our cash) and said mum still brags every week without fail on Facebook about swimming lessons. Yes I agree with those who say it's great to take babies swimming but for God's sake, just take them yourself.

Mylittlepuds Tue 09-Oct-12 20:00:37

Oh and her son had a wetsuit. Obv.

bumperella Tue 09-Oct-12 20:01:48

I took my baby swimming (and still do).
She loves it, it's another experience for her, it was sociable (for both of us) it was fun... don't see why taking babies swimming is any wierder than taking older children swimming - they just splash around grinning madly.
I had a block of lessons, really useful for ideas of what moves to do with DD, etc., also getting into a pool with tiny baby is awkward. Lessons weren't expensive - £10 for the block of 8 I think - and a council pool. If that makes me middle-class-pfb-helipcopter-parent, so be it.

Wetsuits work by trapping water in the neoprene that then heats up (by wearers body heat). So a nice warm insulating layer. If they're too big then water flows in (ie between skin and wetsuit) and then it just all flows out -so they don't work well unless they fit well. I've never used one for my DD but have borrowed other peoples when WW kayaking....

bumperella Tue 09-Oct-12 20:05:47

mylittlepuds, x posted, those lessons you had DO sound shite :-).
Ours involved floating rafts, toys, daft songs, rhymes with actions, - lots of vareity. Can't imagine they'd actually teach DD to swim, but were fun. And last 30 mins, which was plenty long enough.

Mylittlepuds Tue 09-Oct-12 20:20:56

Sounds much better than ours! The one I went to insisted on an 'underwater swim' in the first lesson. An underwater swim. For babies as young as eight weeks. The underwater swim consisted of dunking them under at the end of the lesson. Most of them came up howling and shocked.

Not to mention that going on my own to one of these swim lessons would have been a logistical nightmare. I had DH with me and still found myself stressed beyond belief as he wasn't allowed in the changing rooms. I might stress easy but tell me honestly who wouldn't with a tiny baby, swim nappies and wet costumes to peel off. Never again. I've warned a friend. Wish I hadn't as she's booked up anyway and I'm sure I'll hear how utterly fabulous the experience was. Oh f**k off.

sleeplessinderbyshire Tue 09-Oct-12 20:29:05

the underwater swimming thing is really important to get them to keep on with the breatholding reflex. If they fell into a pool or got dunked by accident you want to be as sure as you can that they won't simply breathe in the water and drown immediately. I've done waterbabies with my DD1 for 3yrs now and have done almost a term with DD2 it's by far the best thing we do together and I (and more importantly both DDs) absolutely love it

Mylittlepuds Tue 09-Oct-12 20:41:49

That's why they call it an underwater swim, naturally hmm

Mylittlepuds Tue 09-Oct-12 20:48:29

Oh and 'underwater swimming' can be captured on camera for a snip at £200 per photo. And then you can share the pictures on Facebook for the world to see how fabulously wealthy you are and what a great parent you are. Two birds, one stone.

bumperella Tue 09-Oct-12 20:49:38

They called it "plopping in off the side" or somesuch (sounded more like describing someone having a poo TBH) at ours. But they didn't explain the rationale (thanks, sleepless!) and it wasn't sompulsory - more if parent felt up to it!
I agree re: nioghtmare of getting out of the changing rooms.

TalkinPeace2 Tue 09-Oct-12 20:50:40

None of your business.

Unhappy baby would have howled.

Wallace Tue 09-Oct-12 20:51:28

Never did underwater swimming but all of my children have spontaneously learnt to jump in and go underwater and hold their breath... shock

VivaLeBeaver Tue 09-Oct-12 20:51:34

I tried dunking dd under water when she was a couple of months old. A childless doctor friend insisted it would work if I blew in her face first she would hold her breath and then I could quickly dunk her under. Didn't work at all.

Nancyclancy Tue 09-Oct-12 20:52:38

When I read this thread earlier I thought, yes, yabu. Then I had to nip out to take my dc to footie practice. While I was there I saw a mum with a baby, that was very newborn, with NO hat on! It was freezing and there was a really chilly wind cutting across the field.
Her little baby was in her arms with his little head exposed. I really felt for him. But I didn't say anything, maybe she'd just forgotten it and didn't need it pointing out.

Noqontrol Tue 09-Oct-12 21:28:54

No hat? shock. How shocking!!

MerryCosIWonaGold Tue 09-Oct-12 21:30:12

wallace grin. Mine too! Shocking isn't it, that my kids love jumping in the pool, going underwater and getting splashed despite only going swimming a few times in their nearly 4 years.

You try newborn twins and a 3yr old in changing rooms and you will understand why my poor, deprived children have only learned to enjoy the water once a year on hols and the handful of times I could be bothered to de-hair every inch of my body.

Also grin at the 200 quid 2birds in 1stone photo. My dsil has one of these on her fridge. Bless.

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