The teacher keeps refusing to let my Yr1 DS go to the toilet

(87 Posts)
BupcakesAndCunting Thu 04-Oct-12 15:50:18

At the end of school.

We have a ten minute walk home and he is always bursting for the loo when he comes out, so was one of his classmates today. He was near wetting himself by the time we got home.

DS says that the teacher won't let them go apart from at break times. AIBU to think that this is harsh, especially on 5 year olds who are constantly drinking from water bottles all day. I was thinking of having a word about it.

NoToastWithoutKnickers Thu 04-Oct-12 15:52:32

That's ridiculous. At the end of the school day it's not up to the teacher whether or not a child goes to the loo. I'd just march in with him and take him to the loo.

Your poor ds sad no that is not right!!! They are small children and if they need to go then they should be allowed to go. It's not good for anyone to constantly have to hold it and humiliating for those who just can't. A child will not concentrate or participate in a lesson if he's that uncomfortable and desperate! I'd definately be having a word!!!

NatashaBee Thu 04-Oct-12 15:56:22

Are they not even allowed in the loos after school? I do think that's a bit harsh.

Annunziata Thu 04-Oct-12 15:56:22

He should maybe not be drinking so much then- it must get disruptive if he's wanting to go all the time. But if he needs to go, he needs to go!

<on fence>

SCOTCHandWRY Thu 04-Oct-12 15:56:40

Well, I'd make the point to the HT and the teacher that kids are hardly likely to be learning effectively if struggling with a full bladder.

5yo is still very young - they may not have needed to go urgently at break... encourage him to go to the loo at the end of every lunch break even if he doesn't think he needs to go, even if he's not likely to remember to do it!

nickeldaisical Thu 04-Oct-12 15:57:16

at the end of school you should take him to the toilet on the way out.
do you have to collect from the gate or are you allowed into the school building?

Purple2012 Thu 04-Oct-12 15:57:50

I would definitely be having a word too. That's not on.

i would go in with him and have done with dd when younger, and wait outside loo, so if you are questioned, you can explain you are walking. doesnt seem right to me

Is he mistaken, though? Does he think, because the teacher has specified breaktimes, that a hometime wee is not allowed?

I'd have a word tomorrow - actually I have had a word because DS needed to go after school in Y2 and parents weren't allowed in the building so I couldn't send him.

The nice Y2 teacher always made sure he had a visit before he came out to meet me in the playground.

BupcakesAndCunting Thu 04-Oct-12 16:05:33

I don't think he is mistaken (but will clarify with teacher) because he said that he asked to go before hometime today and he was refused, and his little mate backed him up! Then he also said he'd asked to go during a lesson on another day and the TA had said he had to wait.

drjohnsonscat Thu 04-Oct-12 16:07:25

Our school does this with reception age children and it's not right. They can only go at break time. If they go in lesson time it's deducted from their break time so seen as a punishment anyway. It's not right for such young children and even my very very camel-like DD (5) had an accident last year as a result (and I was hauled in from work to sort it out). I would have a word - I wish I had.

longjane Thu 04-Oct-12 16:10:28

well what i had to was send them back in to toilets before we when home as we had a 20mins at least walk home .
just send them back in and have a work with the teacher

She's going to be stepping in a lot of puddles, then, isn't she?

It just sounds cruel to me.

That's not on, worth having a chat about it with the teacher I would say.

I have heard about some schools/teachers being quite strict about going during class, but they surely can't stop them using the loos after class before walking home.

PunkInDublic Thu 04-Oct-12 16:18:42

YANBU. Can you stress to your DS he must "have a try" at breaks and lunch time even if he doesn't feel like it and make sure teacher knows you've done this?

Even if he's drinking a litre an hour and not going during lunch you cannot stop a child going for a wee! That never ends well. As someone who suffered with kidney infections as a child I cannot stress this enough.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos Thu 04-Oct-12 16:18:59

I think you need to establish exactly what goes on at the end of the day and when your ds is asking to go. If he's asking to go when the class is putting their costs on and the teacher is about to lead all the children out, I can understand why she said no. I wouldn't want to let a Y1 go through to the toilet just as all the other classes are coming out through the corridor in the opposite direction at our school. I'd be more than happy to hand him over to the parent and let her take him in though.

I have also made children wait to go to the toilet. Especially when it's in 5 minutes into PE, they have all been reminded to go more than once already and they are asking two seconds after I have just allowed their friend to go. In those circumstances (which seem to be a regular occurrence in R/Y1) I will make the second child wait until the first is back so that I know they aren't going to start messing around and chatting in the toilets because I want them back in the lesson ASAP. For all I know there are children in my class complaining that I made them wait to their parents, but I also know that they can't be busting because they chose not to go when they were asked 5 minutes before.

Sokmonsta Thu 04-Oct-12 16:22:03

I'd take him back in before walking home. Our school encourage the children to go at the beginning or end of break time to minimise class disruption/messing about in toilets. But they don't refuse them if they genuinely need to during lesson. Dd had an accident today because she was so engrossed in her activity she didn't realise until it was too late. Teacher was lovely about it, more bothered that dd was upset than the accident.

vodkaanddietirnbru Thu 04-Oct-12 16:38:48

When mine need the toilet after coming out of school, I go back in with them and they go to the toilet in the foyer near the school office. If we are further away I would take them into the toilets of a nearby cafe or supermarket.

naturalbaby Thu 04-Oct-12 16:42:45

Ds's school have just introduced water bottles and said in the letter that they accept there will be a settling down process where children drink too much then need to use the toilet more.
I'd have a word with the teacher and ask her to be more understanding. If it's that much of an issue then they should be watching how much water the children drink and not penalising the children.

cheekybarsteward Thu 04-Oct-12 16:49:39

Is he yr1 bups? Just checked with DD yr1 and she said they just have to put their hand up to go. Reception they didn't have to ask.

nickeldaisical Thu 04-Oct-12 17:24:14

I remember being refused permission to go to the toilet in 2nd year infants.
I couldn't make it back to my own seat so I sat in the nearest seat and weed.

I couldn't hold it in any longer (I'd already been holding on because I was too scared to ask the teacher, so I was pretty desperate by the time I asked. And I even waited in the Reading Line to see her )

nickeldaisical Thu 04-Oct-12 17:25:09

okay, my embarrassing admission was to point out that if that happened to DD, I would have to go straight into school and complain, because I'm still embarrassed about it now - 30 years later.

(but I know it wasn't my fault - it's that feeling I had I can remember)

Euphemia Thu 04-Oct-12 17:28:26

DD's P3 teacher did this: DD asked to go to the loo at 2:55 when they were to be dismissed at 3pm, teacher said no, she could go when she got home. As we don't all go home in our big fuck-off 4x4s, at the end of the 15-minute walk home DD was practically wetting herself.

I never did like that cow teacher. angry

Chopstheduck Thu 04-Oct-12 17:29:55

Send him back in before he goes on, and speak to the teacher before making any assumptions.

It could be that he is just asking at inconvenient times. My eldest son in infant school would also disappear off to the toilet whenever he felt like it and spend ages in there to get away from the class!

SlightlySuperiorPeasant Thu 04-Oct-12 17:32:59

YANBU, please say something. 5 is still very little and I would be very surprised if this is the real rule.

Saying that, it was the rule when I was 4/5. No one was allowed to go to the loo outside break times and lots of children wet themselves because of it, including me sad

GotMyGoat Thu 04-Oct-12 17:42:04

I still remember in reception asking to use the loo and my evil teacher said no.

I held on and held on but the wet myself.

I told my friend as I was scared of calling out to the teacher

I always feel angry at this memory because she said "why didn't you say you were desperate?" angry

I was a really good girl at school, so its not like she thought i would mess around in the loos. Think she was an evil control freak. I was 4 or 5 fgs. Grrrr!

ihearsounds Thu 04-Oct-12 17:50:09

Why dont you let dc go to the loo then before walking home?

TunaPastaBake Thu 04-Oct-12 18:02:59

I dont think this is an issue - when he comes out of school just send him back in to use the loo.

A child in and out of class can be disruptive - once one goes they all tend to want to go.

Theas18 Thu 04-Oct-12 18:08:59

Find our what really good on before you go in all guns blazing . Year 1 are quite capable of going for a wee everytime theyare asked to settle down to so a task.this could be a campaign to try too get then to work out when it is time to work and when toilet breaks are.

Of course he can go before he leaves school-why don't you ask him and send him back if need?

izzybobsmum Thu 04-Oct-12 18:32:15

YANBU. I'm really glad someone has posted on this, because I'm having the same issue with DD1 in Year 2. She has asked to go to the toilet a couple of times and been told no. I have talked to her about going at break times and lunchtimes, but she says that she doesn't always need to go at breaktime, and that the urge comes 20 mins later when she's in lessons. I am perservering until parents' evening in a few weeks, and then I shall be having a word. One of the other girls in her class, who'd also been refused access to the toilet, wet herself in her mum's car on the way home, and was devastated.

CharlotteBronteSaurus Thu 04-Oct-12 18:37:02

YANBU
we had this issue in reception, and a strongly worded letter resolved it

yes, it possibly is disruptive having children going to the loo left, right and centre, but presumably not as disruptive as having wet clothes to change and pools of wee everywhere.

Cherriesarelovely Thu 04-Oct-12 18:44:07

some of the responses to your post are so upsetting OP! Of course YANBU! I am really angry on your behalf and I teach early years myself. This is really horrible. What on earth is wrong with these teachers? Why is it such a problem to let a child go to the loo before they go home? I agree if a child is going constantly and mucking about in the loos or avoiding something then the situation needs to be monitored differently but otherwise no, if a child needs the loo they need the loo. I hope you get a sensible response from the school when you talk to them about it.

Cherriesarelovely Thu 04-Oct-12 18:44:47

I mean the responses are upsetting because of the experiences people are sharing on here, not because people are being nasty obviously!

SuffolkNWhat Thu 04-Oct-12 18:45:23

YANBU especially at the end of the day.

I have the tidal wave effect with Year 5 (lowest year group in our school) and if one asks to go to the toilet the whole bleeding class do (and I teach them just after lunch) so I imagine younger this is worse

BUT

That is something you have to deal with and judge best as a teacher. I rarely deny a child a visit to the toilet but I also only allow one girl and one boy out of my room at a time (vandalism issues in the past)

I would have a word with the teacher in the first instance about your DS being allowed to visit the toilet at hometime, if you explain his discomfort I'm sure they'll understand.

wigglesrock Thu 04-Oct-12 18:55:49

At my daughters primary school P1s and P2s can go to the toilet on request. From P3 (6/7) they go at breaktimes etc, obviously if they're busting they can go during classes. On occasion my dd1 came out of school at 3pm needing the toilet, I just brought her back in again through the main reception and she used the toilets - no bother at all.

LesleyPumpshaft Thu 04-Oct-12 19:12:54

I can understand why teachers would do this, but as someone who's suffered from urological and kidney problems, I was told by my consultant that holding in your wee for too long can cause infections.

Bilbobagginstummy Thu 04-Oct-12 19:20:21

Perhaps you should take your little boy to wee by the teacher's car (driver's door) if he's not allowed in the loo before walking home.

Bet it wouldn't take long to get the rules changed. grin

LeeCoakley Thu 04-Oct-12 19:22:00

I don't understand why you just don't take him back in yourself when he comes out? Or go to some other communal toilets in the school building. The teacher would have said he couldn't go at that moment because there were letters to give out or she had something to tell them before they all left. She wouldn't have meant that he wasn't allowed to use the toilets after the school day!

MaryPoppinsBag Thu 04-Oct-12 20:02:40

Are the toilets in the classroom or out of the classroom down a corridor?
At my DC's school they ate in the classes in infants and they can just nip fairly easily.

This is so awful. Going when you don't need to is really bad for bladder health, as is holding on for ages. My obstetric physio told me I was not to go for a wee before leaving the house unless I really needed to, or unless it was likely to be a while before there were toilets available.

Coconutty Thu 04-Oct-12 20:07:46

I almost always let the years 1s go when they ask, better than having accidents. I do tell them to go in break times too though, as quite often they just fancy a wander around! Most teachers let them go too, would be very surprised if yours doesn't! Just have quiet word with her.

DowagersHump Thu 04-Oct-12 20:08:06

We are not allowed anywhere near the school door when we collect our children Lee because there are close on 300 kids coming out at the same time. I have absolutely no idea where the toilets are - the only ones I know about are at the main entrance (round the other side of the school) which are labelled 'adults only'.

So it's not always that easy.

EugenesAxe Thu 04-Oct-12 20:14:49

I'd be tempted to have them piss against the school and then let the Head know why when she/he comes out to have a go...

Anyway, it's out of order and I second Toast's suggestion of just taking your DS in yourself and then telling them where to shove it if they complain.

I'm such a hypocrite sometimes, being all bloody religious on the Job thread and then thinking the above.

cheeseandbiscuitsplease Thu 04-Oct-12 20:26:47

I'm a teacher and u never stop children going to the toilet. You soon get to know who the toilet trotters are who are using it as a distraction technique. I have just had to go and see my ds 7 teacher as they weren't letting him go to the toilet. Like you say they are encouraged to drink water to keep them hydrated so they need the toilet. They should be encouraged to try at play times but if they need it in between I let them go. I am a naice teacher smile

Bigwheel Thu 04-Oct-12 20:31:40

My ds is in year 1 and can use the toilet whenever he likes. At that age I wouldn't be happy if he couldn't.

NowThenNowThen Thu 04-Oct-12 20:37:56

YANBU. That's awful. I am pretty sure that ds in yr 2 can go whenever he likes. Problem is, he wont go at school at all, and I always make him go before we walk hom, otherwise he is so uncomfortable all the way home.
I wish I could get him to go at school, but they seem to have a free range policy about toilets, which is good.
I mean, adults don't have to ask at work to go to the toilet usuallly-they just go, so why inflict that rule on children?

Sargesaweyes Thu 04-Oct-12 21:15:41

If a child in my class asks to go during lesson I usually ask 'can you hold on?' meaning until break/ end of the day. If they say no then I let them go.

It is a pain in the arse though when they all start saying they need to go just so they can have a nosy down the corridor.

foreverondiet Thu 04-Oct-12 21:20:51

Make appointment with either head or with senco.

Or tell them that you'd rather he didn't have to wee in the playground grin

DS1 (year 2) has irritable bladder allowed to go whenever he wants and I always ask him at 3.40pm do you want to do before DD finishes (at 3.50pm)....

YANBU.

pigletmania Thu 04-Oct-12 21:31:30

That is disgusting it really is. Having access to a toilet is a basic human right, just because it's children des not make that any different. I wuld be acing words with the HT. they are only little

pigletmania Thu 04-Oct-12 21:33:35

I was denied te toilet when I was 7 and had a dodgy tummy, and had an accident, the blush

RinkyDinkyDoo Thu 04-Oct-12 21:35:02

I am a teacher,I always let my children go when they ask,except if they ask all the time for skive time, this is because I wet myself at school when a teacher said no, I don't want that to happen to anyone else.

BlueSkySinking Thu 04-Oct-12 23:37:47

Take him back in to school.

Maybe ask the teacher to allow him to visit the loo when he needs to go. Talk to the head if there is a problem.

ThatVikRinA22 Thu 04-Oct-12 23:42:02

why do people do this to children? really - as an adult if you need the loo you go, do you not?
teachers included?

why would you do this to a 5 yr old - i would go in and speak to the HT.

yanbu

thebody Thu 04-Oct-12 23:44:38

Hi TA in reception class. We started off letting them go when they asked.. Now we know the kids well we know which ones want to go together and have a skive/chat so we let them go individually.

At end of day of course we let them go as dome have long walks/drives home.

Just take him into toilets at pik up time yourself... Just a hint, your Dc might have been one to ask for the toilet to have chat with friend etc so just check with teacher before you go in all guns blazing, iucwim...

HissyByName Thu 04-Oct-12 23:48:36

Vicar, I had the same thoughts as you!

YANBU OP, go in and ask some questions.

Happygirl77 Thu 04-Oct-12 23:58:59

I always ensure (if we are walking /scooting home) that dd1 (school) and dd2 (preschool - on site) have had a wee before leaving. I just ask whoever is on the door if they have been "because we're walking home" and if not I go in with them and take them to the loo! smile

I think the first thing you need to do is speak to you ds and the teacher to clarify the story. And I think YANBU!!
My mum and dad were constantly pulled into school as I had a habit of politely asking permission to go the loo and being refused so I would just walk out the class and go.

needanswers Fri 05-Oct-12 00:25:33

my ds has to go or he has an accident on the way home, parents are not allowed in the school toilets so I have an arrangement with the teacher that he goes before she lets him out (if he/she forgets he ends up at the car weeing on the wheel).

redwhiteandblueeyedsusan Fri 05-Oct-12 00:29:07

they would only refuse my dc once... because otherwise on their shoes be it. the hassle of having to clear up the tsunami is an incentive for them to let herr go.

LonelyCloud Fri 05-Oct-12 00:38:07

YANBU.

I'd have a word with the teacher.

I remember having an accident at school when I was that age, after being refused permission to go to the toilet. I didn't ask to go until I was absolutely desperate because I was scared of the teacher, and then she wouldn't let me go because another kid was in the toilets.

Nagoo Fri 05-Oct-12 00:52:55

I send DS back into school if he comes out jigging.

I think it is sensible to discourage them from going to the toilet in lesson time, but I can how some DC take discouraged to mean an absolute no, and have an accident because of it sad

On the whole though I support the policy, even for Y1. It is very difficult for teachers.

pigletmania Fri 05-Oct-12 01:12:38

Well you wuld not do that for an adult. If an adult is at work and they needed the toilet tey would go, no different for a child. It's cruel and I humane to deny access to the toilet, I remember this about 27 years on never forget.

altinkum Fri 05-Oct-12 07:15:31

I'd be having serious word, 5 year olds have weak bladders, they also need water to hydrate them so they are not dehydrated, which then effect there learning process, I'd be having words!!!

TheFallenMadonna Fri 05-Oct-12 07:24:45

As a teacher, my bladder does in fact need to be regulated to between lessons, as I can't leave a class unattended. I do expect the same of my students. Our lessons are one hour long, and it is a secondary school. My DC's primary allowed free access in infants, but in juniors they are encouraged to wait.

teacherandguideleader Fri 05-Oct-12 07:27:36

I had never denied a child permission to go to the toilet. I have sometimes told a child they need to wait (end of lesson etc) but always let them go if it becomes obvious they cannot wait. I just don't think it's right, and awful for the child if they wet themselves - especially as I teach secondary. It can be difficult as school policy is to not let them out, but we can use discretion when necessary. It's not always down to the teacher if a child isn't not allowed to go - it is often the rules that they can't.

However, I was recently shouted at by another teacher for letting a child out and the way she spoke to me made me feel like I was a naughty school child. I was so upset by how I was spoken to that next time a child asks it is likely I will say no.

teacherandguideleader Fri 05-Oct-12 07:28:41

Also, it doesn't matter how desperate I am for the toilet, I am not allowed to leave them to go to the loo.

redwhiteandblueeyedsusan Fri 05-Oct-12 08:03:51
SuffolkNWhat Fri 05-Oct-12 08:20:12

Also after 8 years of teaching I'm pretty good at spotting genuine need for the toilet vs. I'm bored and don't want to do any work types.

I always let them go but I am not having half my class out at any one time as there have been issues with vanadlising the toilets so I do one in, one out (these are older children/young adults).

I am not allowed out to the toilet when I want as the staff toilets are a long way from my classroom, I can hold on an hour and these young adults (barring medical exceptions who carry discreet cards) can too.

It was awful when I was expecting DD and had hyperemesis, my bin had to be chucked out in the end as it was used so much for the wrong reason because I couldn't leave my class unsupervised.

pigletmania Fri 05-Oct-12 09:36:19

The fallen if you were so desparate that you might have an accident you would ask another staff to watch your class, you would not stand there and wee or poo yourself. Even adults can be caught unaware. Your students are secondary school so of corse they would have better control than a little 5 year old. I hour is a long tim for a primary school child, sometimes you need to go ASAP not in I hour

halcyondays Fri 05-Oct-12 09:37:40

Yanbu. That's ridiculous. At that age, most schools, quite rightly, let them go when they need to. I once heard someone asking their teacher if they could remind their dd to go before the end of school because they often needed to go on the walk hone and the teacher was fine with it.

Viviennemary Fri 05-Oct-12 09:42:28

I'd speak to the teacher. And then the head. Then get a letter from your family doctor. It is not good for a child of that age to be in distress in this way.

nickeldaisical Fri 05-Oct-12 11:30:39

Fallen and teacher - there is a massive difference between an adult's bladder control and an infant schoolchild's!

I would hope that anyone above Junior school age would be able to time and space out their toilet visits so that it never happens.

I've just had a baby and my pelvic floor muscles have completely disappeared, but even I can control my weeing times at will! (especially with only an hour inbetween)

I wouldn't expect the same from an infant, who probably still has problems telling the initial urge from the desperate urge, and who probably also doesn't have the wherewithall to understand that trying to go might save you from having to rush out 20minutes later.

drjohnsonscat Fri 05-Oct-12 12:42:25

fallen & teacher of course you don't let secondary school children pop off to the loo every five seconds but this is about Y1 and, in my case, reception children. Four year olds are having this rule placed upon them and I think we can all agree that four year olds cannot wait!

lljkk Fri 05-Oct-12 12:51:28

I feel your pain, OP. I wish I could remember consistently to persuade youngest DC to run back in and use the loo as soon as he comes out.

The big problem is, they deny needing to go because they want to run around & play with friends. The need to wee genuinely doesn't seem that urgent. It's only after friends have dissipated that they realise they need to go, so I have to time question just right, and asking only once isn't good enough. Bowels especially often don't get moving until after we've walked 3-4 minutes, by which time we're a bit far from school to go back. One of my DC consistently needs bowels emptied soon after school, many a dodgy walk home until he got older.

Sigh.

cocolepew Fri 05-Oct-12 13:05:08

I hate this. Dd is in p7 and told me that the HT had told them they wouldn't be allowed to go to the toilet except at break and lunch. The reason being someone had flooding the girls toilet (they knew who it was because the teacher let them out). DD was scared to drink from her water bottle, and then the HT said they weren't allowed those either.
I was due to see her teacher at parents night and brought it up. He said that he would be telling his class they can go at anytime, he was able to figure out who was trying it on. He also said there was no way he would try to stop 11 year old girls from using the toilet for obvious reasons

Alligatorpie Fri 05-Oct-12 13:31:00

I send my kindergarten class to the toilet three times per day, they are also encouraged to go at break time. But, inevitably within five minutes of returning to the classroom, someone asks to go. it drives me mad.

I can usually tell an urgent need from someone who wants a break. But in my first year of teaching I did have a parent ask me to remind her dd to go before school was dismissed as her dd wet herself on the bus. I was horrified, and still feel for the girl. Maybe the teacher is new and wouldnt mind a reminder?

CailinDana Fri 05-Oct-12 13:40:13

As a former primary teacher I have no respect for a teacher or school that has this policy and I would consider moving my son from a school that insisted on it. It is totally and utterly unnecessary and if the school are in a situation where they can't even let their children go to the toilet for fear of bad behaviour then in my eyes it's just not good enough for my child. It is a cruel and embarrassing policy for the children. I did supply teaching in a few schools with this policy and I always just ignored it. I just cannot agree with it at all.

CailinDana Fri 05-Oct-12 13:42:44

Just add, I always I had a one in/one out policy too - and I never encountered messing, even in difficult schools.

libelulle Fri 05-Oct-12 13:45:12

I find it extraordinary and disgusting that there are schools with this policy in R/yr1. My DD is still at the stage of needing to go NOW when she needs to go, no matter how often I remind her to not leave it until the last minute, and despite having been fine at home for the past year has had a couple of accidents at school. They are SO small still - some reception kids will have only turned 4 just over a month ago!!!

CailinDana Fri 05-Oct-12 13:48:53

FWIW I wouldn't ever deny an older child access to the toilet either. I would remind older children to go at breaks/lunch and I wouldn't let them go for the first ten minutes of lesson (when the main teaching is done) but after that I would definitely let them go. What if a girl had just started her period? How awful for her if she could feel a leak happening and wasn't allowed to leave to deal with it.

Yanbu.
My dd has a bladder medical problem and she wet herself every night on way home for this reason and twice in class in year 2 despite them knowing that she had problems.

Current school is very good but I am dreading secondary.

We had this...i went in and it was sorted. They then got a new TA and my 8yo daughter wet herself three weeks in a row after swimming after being told she was not allowed to go until they were back at school. She was mortified...and i was seriously pissed off...speak to them, please

cocolepew Fri 05-Oct-12 14:01:03

Whistling, my oldest DD suffers from anxiety and in first and second year at secondary school she was given a toilet pass. It might be something to keep in mind. You had to ask to he given one. It means if the child needs the toilet, or in DDs case to just leave the room, they just showed it to the teacher and went out.

TheFallenMadonna Fri 05-Oct-12 20:28:25

I did make it clear that I was talking about secondary age children.

I was really responding to the point that adults can go to the loo when they feel the urge. I cannot. I can't ask a colleague to mind my class, because they are with their own...

TheFallenMadonna Fri 05-Oct-12 20:29:23

And yes, we have medical cards for students who need to be able to go to the loo on demand.

NowThenNowThen Fri 05-Oct-12 20:36:36

The one in one out policy is a good one Cailin.
I think ds won't go to the toilet at school because another boy tends to follow him in, and ds is very self conscious. He just won't go with some one there.
Ds also told me that this boy sometimes the toilet door and won't let him out, (thinking it's funny)which is scary.
I have told the teacher, but I don't know if they really took it on board.
Some children are a bit uptight, like ds, and need privacy!

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