Is this rude?

(119 Posts)
DesperatelySeekingPomBears Thu 04-Oct-12 08:28:43

Just for the record, I know its a small problem etc etc but I was just wondering if anyone would think this was an okay thing to do.

NDNs are generally lovely, friendly etc. However recently DP got rid of his car and, while he looks for another one, he is taking mine to work.

We have a double driveway and every morning, as soon as DP leaves for work, NDN puts his wife's car onto our drive. Right up against the garage doors. Every morning.

Now, I can see that this makes things easier for them as they park one behind the other on their single drive so it prevents them having to juggle cars. However, they never ask which I find... Well... A bit rude to be honest.

AIBU to think they could ask to make sure I don't need to be in my garage or that I'm not expecting visitors?

Lovelygoldboots Thu 04-Oct-12 08:31:01

YANBU, they are taking the piss.

saffronwblue Thu 04-Oct-12 08:31:25

YANBU. This should be a favour to be checked with you. Not a right.

WelshMaenad Thu 04-Oct-12 08:32:12

V rude. Just ask him not to. It's your property!

Open the garage door as your DH is leaving for work and see what happens then.

mistlethrush Thu 04-Oct-12 08:33:27

Yes, this is rude. Its actually rather strange.

They should definitely be asking.

I would wait until the most awkward time and then ask them to move it so that you can get into the garage. In fact I would suddenly start to need to get into the garage very regularly. I would then be fairly upfront with something like 'I'm sorry, but its not at all convenient to have to keep popping round and asking you to move your car off OUR drive, please could you keep it elsewhere?'

Do they move it back in time for DH to get back?

CailinDana Thu 04-Oct-12 08:33:50

Very rude. I would just put a big sign on the garage door saying "This carpark will now be charging £2 and hour. Please call to the door to pay, thank you."

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Thu 04-Oct-12 08:42:26

It's always moved before dp gets back yes. It just seems like such an odd thing to do without asking. Tbh when we first moved in they'd been using the drive while the house was empty but for the first few weeks they seemed to really resent us for taking "their" parking. However after DS was born they defrosted and became really friendly, which is why I'm not keen on causing animosity [wimp]

sugarice Thu 04-Oct-12 08:53:44

This kind of car parking thread always has me seething!

The cheek of some people, it's your drive, who do they think they are. angry I wouldn't be able to keep it to myself and would ask them why are they doing it.

ChasedByBees Thu 04-Oct-12 08:56:03

Weirdos, I'd tell them to move it!

Do you have a gate you can shut as soon as dh has left? Very rude and bizarre not to even ask. It's your property!

StuntGirl Thu 04-Oct-12 09:05:48

[sigh] I will never understand people's weirdness about parking. What is wrong with these people? YANBU.

If you don't want to cause bad blood perhaps leave it 'til you get the new car. Then they won't be able to park there anyway.

RobotLover68 Thu 04-Oct-12 09:08:11

me and my NDN have an agreement we can use each other's drive to turn car on (busy road) and we do use each other's drive if necessary - but we always knock first!

yes it's rude (and weird)

BitOutOfPractice Thu 04-Oct-12 09:08:37

That's not a bit rude. That's a LOT rude! Unbelievable!!

You have to say something. Even just to ask them what their thinking is behind it. Why they think they are allowed to do it

Yes, it's rude.

You should go round, looking very solemn:

'I'm terribly sorry, I've just tried to push open my garage door from inside, and heard this horrible crashing, scraping sound ...'

Wait for them to react.

'Fortunately it was just the door mechanism creaking a bit, but would you mind moving your car so I can open it safely?'

The moment of considering their precious car with a great gouge from your metal garage door should help with their motivations.

(I'm hoping you have a push/pull job, not a slide-y upwards one.)

OhChristFENTON Thu 04-Oct-12 09:24:22

It's rude of them not to ask, very presumptuous.

For the sake of harmony though I would have a word and ask them not to park so near to the garage as you need to access it from time to time, - and point out that DH is getting another vehicle so they shortly won't be able to park there at all - but you don't mind in the meantime provided you can get into your garage.

I sympathise, I am also a wimp about these sorts of things.

What a cheek. shock What if you want to get in your garage? confused

What odd neighbours! Very rude! Could you start blocking them in somehow? Just to encourage them not to do it? A week of not being able to use their car should do it... A pity about your drive, but it would only be in the short term.

TeeBee Thu 04-Oct-12 09:28:11

Wow! Are you sure they havent asked your dh? I wouldn't have any qualms about marching round and just asking them to remove their car from your drive. Unreal!

BigFatLegsInWoolyTIghts Thu 04-Oct-12 09:30:40

It strikes me that they're bullies.

This would seriously annoy me, we had a huge works van on our drive most days when we first moved in, our car was not on the drive as we'd moved in to the garage and were then moving stuff to the house, far easier with 2 mad dcs, and most days we were stuck unable to do a thing. Eventually caught the bloke and went postal. Best to resolve now before you reach batshit crazy like I did.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos Thu 04-Oct-12 09:31:20

Extremely rude.

I'd struggle to contain myself, but the best thing to do would be to politely ask them not to.

BigFatLegsInWoolyTIghts Thu 04-Oct-12 09:31:48

OOOH! Do what LRD says! I love it!

Ingles2 Thu 04-Oct-12 09:32:15

shock of course it's rude! Can't believe you have to ask tbh...tell them to park on their own drive

grin

ENormaSnob Thu 04-Oct-12 09:32:53

It is really fucking rude.

I'm angry on your behalf.

But like you, I'm a bit rubbish at confrontation. Maybe you could be outside 'doing something' in the spot where they come and park (sweeping the drive, pruning a hedge, etc) when DH leaves, and carry on doing so if they try to park there - surely they won't expect you to move out of the way? Or if they don't try when you're there, leave some stuff in the space, hedge cuttings, bags of rubbish, etc.

Or you could do what I'd do - stew on it for days and days until you finally flip, storm round and tell them to keep off your f*cking property! smile

Can't believe how rude they're being! How long have they been doing it?

akaemmafrost Thu 04-Oct-12 09:36:13

Yes it would annoy me too but I also would be inclined to wait till the new car arrives as that will take care of the problem rather than risk a row with people you have to live so close too.

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Thu 04-Oct-12 09:38:20

I can't really block them in or use a bollard because of the layout if the drives. Our two driveways form a rough L shape with the "corner" of the L being an access area to both driveways.

They definitely haven't asked DP. I'm going to wimpishly wait until later on today when I need to move some of DS's stuff into the garage when I'm going to have to go and ask her to move it...

sugarice Thu 04-Oct-12 09:39:14

Start positioning your wheelie bins and recycling boxes in a way that makes it difficult for them to get their car on. See what they do then.

mistlethrush Thu 04-Oct-12 09:39:50

I suppose you might also be able to do something very messy with any dcs.. making sure that any mess was contained to your own property of course (oh, and anything that is parked therein) but make sure its something that would wash off OK - albeit being a pain to have to get it off.

Yes that's a good idea. Today is the day for a massive garage sort out. Get round there now and tell them to shift it. I couldn't wait-I would have to go and say something.

Ephiny Thu 04-Oct-12 09:42:26

Yes of course it's rude. They're probably depending on you being too polite/nice to say anything - don't let them get away with it!

BobblyOrangeGoldGussets Thu 04-Oct-12 09:42:46

They want to be the dominant dogs. They are marking your territory as yours. They are cocking their leg and weeing on your turf. You need to raise your hackles OP, bare your teeth. Ggrrrr. Stop rolling over to show them your belly.

I have no idea what to do in human terms. Maybe a big shite in the middle of their lawn?

Pourquoimoi Thu 04-Oct-12 09:45:51

YANBU - it is very rude. We have a shared double driveway too, and we park one in front of the other. Our neighbour is elderly and rarely uses his drive so we do use it to reverse round our other car if we have to, but we have NEVER parked on it!

We also would never ask him to move so that we could manouvere. I feel really bad if I stop on it for half a minute to move our other car.

How long is it until you're getting the new car? And how long have they been doing this now?

Could you not just say "I'm finding it inconvenient that you keep parking on my drive, can I ask why you're doing it?" then when they say a spurious invalid reason follow it sweetly by saying "well I wouldn't mind occasionally but can you please check that it's not inconvenient first? Thanks".

It would really annoy me to be honest, good luck!

I think they are just thick and think the whole L shape is a free for all perhaps? Yes, stick your wheelie bins out there.

elah11 Thu 04-Oct-12 09:49:00

How could anyone think this was ok! I mean if you had guests over and ran out of space would you just go over and sit in their front room? Of course its not ok and they are relying on you being too meek to say so. Just go over and tell them not to do it anymore and who cares if they are pissed, let them be x

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Thu 04-Oct-12 09:49:55

Come to think of it, they've never actually stopped being iffy about parking. They will happily park one of their cars, or tell their guests to park, across the dropped curb at te bottom of our driveway. It makes getting off our drive like something out of the krypton factor. But the neighbours on the other side are just as guilty of that particular trick.

I may be being paranoid but I have a sneaking suspicion they both feel more inclined to behave like prats because they both own their homes whereas we rent.

I was giving them the benefit of the doubt. sad But about the renting thing-do you actually 'own' both spaces then? Is it possible the cheeky NDNs have the permission of your landlord or something bizarrre?

Renting or owning has bugger all to do with it! Cheeky mares!

Definitely start the garage clear out now - tell them they need to move - then make the 'clear out' last until you get the new car smile

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Thu 04-Oct-12 09:57:39

No, we definitely own both spaces, we checked with both the landlord and the letting agent when the neighbours first demonstrated displeasure at us parking there.

Or maybe, next time there's no-one in their back garden, jump over the fence, light a bbq, put some music on and have a little party in it. Then when they come out and ask what's going on, smile sweetly and innocently say 'oh - well, you weren't using it'....

That's ok then-just wondered.

sugarice Thu 04-Oct-12 10:01:38

How did they demonstrate their displeasure? Did they actually say something or just give out hard stares with hostility when you came face to face.

footphobic Thu 04-Oct-12 10:03:48

While I would always prefer to keep good neighbourly relations where possible my own neighbours are vile but their house is up for sale, hoo-fecking-ray, this is your driveway, on your property and though they have their own parking, they are taking it upon themselves to park on it blocking access to your garage without asking?! angry

Honestly, it's not 'a bit rude', it's incredibly rude and piss-taking. I'm slightly bemused by those who say leave it until your DP gets his new car which should resolve the problem. You can't allow someone to just do what they like because you are uncomfortable dealing with it, they should respect that it is your property.

It doesn't have to be a 'confrontation', you can be pleasant but you have to be direct. Invent some reason to go and ask them move it today, and while you are there just politely but firmly ask them please not to park there again, and don't say sorry! wink

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Thu 04-Oct-12 10:04:53

The latter. They wouldn't talk to or acknowledge us in any way. And the only reason I could think of for their behavior was the parking. We have detached houses so its not a noise issue (we're very quiet anyway), our dog doesn't bark, DS is only 9mo so he hasn't caused any problems...

kakapo Thu 04-Oct-12 10:06:01

I'd get round there and politely ask them to move it and not park there in future. No explanations, no rudeness.

Letting them park there in an attempt to keep good relations is misguided. Either they legitimately don't know it's your space (in which case they won't mind that you coming over to politely point it out), or they are deliberately taking the piss (in which case they need to know that you won't roll over and take it, or it'll only get worse).

Noqontrol Thu 04-Oct-12 10:11:00

Just tell them to ask before parking in your space. Or get your husband to start parking in his space when he gets home. I'm sure neighbour would be around quick enough to ask why he had done that. Rude and bizarre behaviour. Don't let him get away with it.

InfinityWelcomesCarefulDrivers Thu 04-Oct-12 10:16:17

People really are strange

dysfunctionalme Thu 04-Oct-12 10:21:50

People are so weird. What is it they get out of this little routine, I wonder? Sounds like they have a lot of time on their hands.

It's the thought that he's watching, waiting for your DH to go. sad

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Thu 04-Oct-12 12:43:42

Well that was awkward.

I went to pop the stuff in the garage and knocked and asked for the car to be moved please thanks if it's not too much trouble

She very sniffily asked if it was an inconvenience and, in my head, I said 'of course it's a bloody inconvenience, it's MY DRIVEWAY!'. However, my head is braver than my mouth which responded with 'no, no, at least, not until DP gets another car, then mine will be on the drive all day again [nervous laugh]'.

Would some brave north eastern MNer like to come and be my backbone?

Ugh, roll on us getting our deposit together and moving somewhere else.

sugarice Thu 04-Oct-12 12:45:04

Have they moved the car though?

Well done you! grin

I am always like that - it makes me squirm to do this stuff in real life.

She's got bloody cheek asking 'is it an inconvenience'. No, you idiot, what do you think?!

Pancakeflipper Thu 04-Oct-12 12:46:11

Pats DSPbears... never mind. Just get DP to get a car right now.

louismummy Thu 04-Oct-12 12:47:10

why don't you have to keep going into the garage everyday and get them to keep moving the car ( just to really annoy them) then they will see it as an inconvenience. Or speak to the landlord.

Yes-go car shopping immediately. Does she ever go out in the car?

Shelby2010 Thu 04-Oct-12 12:50:29

Just make sure it's an 'inconvenience' to them & ask them to move it at least once a day - especially if it's raining. Hopefully they'll get the message.

Actually, why don't you start keeping ds's buggy in the garage 'to save trailing mud thro the house' & then they'll have to move every time you decide to go out.

Yes, do the buggy thing, definitely.

Cheeky bastards angry

I agree, you're going to have to get into the garage at least twice a day, more if you can summon the courage. Then after the weekend, when you go to ask them to move, say 'this is getting a bit silly isn't it, shall we just go back to you parking on your own drive?'

Lots of bonkers neighbours threads atm <rubs trousers>

InfinityWelcomesCarefulDrivers Thu 04-Oct-12 12:53:03

ooh I'm in the NE and I don't have to live next to them
(I don't think)
<peers out to make sure car is still OK on next door's drive>

grin

panicnotanymore Thu 04-Oct-12 12:53:24

Send your DP round in the evening to have words about how you were very embarrassed about having to knock their door, and the situation must not arise again.... i.e. they must not park in the drive when he is out. It would help if he looks a bit scary. Does he?? grin

InfinityWelcomesCarefulDrivers Thu 04-Oct-12 12:55:01

Invite me round. I'll come round for a social call as your long standing gobby friend. OOH HAVE YOU BEEN GETTING A NEW CAR? WELL WHOSE IS IT THEN? WHAT, THEY JUST PARK IT ON YOUR DRIVE? WHAT A NERVE YES A COFFEE WOULD BE LOVELY THANKS"

We can do a planned passive aggressive move smile

InfinityWelcomesCarefulDrivers Thu 04-Oct-12 12:56:02

planned, loud, passive aggression. It's always the best way to resove neighbourly disputes smile

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Thu 04-Oct-12 12:58:17

Lol infinity that sounds fantastic.

DP is big and broad (he's a rugby prop) but I'm not sure if he's scary. He does seem capable of intimidating people purely with his strong Geordie accent though so maybe sending him round might work.

InfinityWelcomesCarefulDrivers Thu 04-Oct-12 13:00:14

Brill, I'll be over in 20 minutes. Now where should I park? wink

hugoagogo Thu 04-Oct-12 13:06:27

Fucking Nora I am glad I do not have a drive for people to metaphorically piss all over.

(although my neighbours do come and cut my grass sometimes, which winds me up no end.)

You could go back and say "having thought about it; it is a bloody inconvenience and would they never park there again."

Shelby2010 Thu 04-Oct-12 13:10:58

Do they know what time DH gets home? Any chance of him coming home early, block them in & then refuse to move the car until the next day? You could claim DS crawled off with the keys & now you can't find them. Until tomorrow when DH goes to work early & you knock on their door at 6am to get their car moved.....

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Thu 04-Oct-12 13:12:22

I'll put the kettle on infinity and oh, just pop your car directly behind the silver skoda wink

Ok - so if you don't want to speak to them about it again and DH doesn't want to either, do it my way the cowardly way - stick a note through their door saying that you've checked with your landlord and the whoe double driveway is yours, not theirs, so they cannot park there. Full Stop.

smile

I wouldn't worry about pissing them off - they sound as if they're stroppy bastards anyway.

I'm north east too. I'll come round for a good bit of passive aggression. I can also bring my boys round to play football next to their car if you like? grin

picmaestress Thu 04-Oct-12 14:45:03

This is hilarious! They'll be using your garden and barbecue when you go on holiday next!

Who cares if they then choose to not speak to you if you make your territory clear? It's no great loss is it? They're the ones causing the problem. Absolute nutters.

kakapo Thu 04-Oct-12 16:32:04

It's just too ridiculous though isn't it? They surely MUST think it is a shared drive. That would explain the sniffy reaction to being asked to move as well as the initial parking. Occam's razor...

<benefit of the doubt>

NatashaBee Thu 04-Oct-12 16:40:22

Do they have a regular daily routine? I would block them in, and go out for a very long lunch/coffee at about the time you know they'll be heading out.

Halloween's coming. Just a thought wink

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Thu 04-Oct-12 18:46:29

Lol sparkling, that would be perfect.

However, DP has bought a car this evening and is collecting it tomorrow night. The drive and my car are mine. All miiiiine.

Yesssss!!!!! Get your cones out. grin

Pochemuchka Thu 04-Oct-12 18:58:52

Please collect your new car and park it on their drive, then ask if it is an inconvenience when they want it moved!

I'm in the NE too! Please let me come round - we can all have a picnic on her drive. I have bunting <hopeful>

notanaxemurderer Thu 04-Oct-12 19:08:59

I would continue to toy with them after you've received the new car.

Ostentatiously pack it up as if you're going away for a long trip. Then drive around the block slowly. By the time you've returned they will be in your driveway. Ask them to move. Repeat x100.

But that's only if you're petty and at a loose end - like I often am.

I would probably wash the new car quite a lot. wink

dysfunctionalme Thu 04-Oct-12 23:22:44

When their car is parked on your driveway, is there anyway at all you could have a friend visit and park on their driveway?

Collaborate Thu 04-Oct-12 23:26:15

Just block them in. And then refuse to move for them when they want to move it.

Or get a skip delivered.

Brycie Thu 04-Oct-12 23:28:30

After reading the first page, I would suggest parking diagonally across the drive. Will now read rest . Yes they are being rude.

Brycie Thu 04-Oct-12 23:29:18

New car much more fun solution than diagonal parking!

NeDeLaMer Thu 04-Oct-12 23:32:29

I've just gone all wet in the crotch weak at the knees - big, broad, rugby playing Geordie for a DH envy - worry less about the car parking and enjoy your DH grin

Maybe your neighbours are just incredibly jealous?!

Did a deep hole - shove your neighbours in it... you'll be doing all of us a favour.

Put a ^*FOR SALE*' sign on their car.

Having a bad day.

FOR SALE sign, obviously.

doinmummy Fri 05-Oct-12 00:36:59

Hang your washing out on her washing line .

saffronwblue Fri 05-Oct-12 02:53:02

It is very Goldilocks, isn't it? Why not send your large DH over to sleep in their bed and sit in their chair and eat their porridge?

Runningblue Fri 05-Oct-12 03:57:59

If you have a double driveway and one car could you treat yourself to a nice skip or a delivery of gravel/ sand? Would block their spot nicely! Cheeky buggers...

Jacksmania Fri 05-Oct-12 05:20:47

I'm marking my place, can't wait to see what happens tomorrow grin

BitOutOfPractice Fri 05-Oct-12 08:38:34

Could you mock up one of those "police aware" signs for abandoned cars, put it on theirs and then have an ostentatiously loud conversation on your phone saying "yes officer, 11:30 will be a good time for the recovery truck". Then look puzzled when they rush out to say it's theirs

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Fri 05-Oct-12 10:05:59

Literally snorting with laughter at some of the suggestions on here. I'm tempted most by the for sale sign...

That or I'm seriously considering hopping the garden fence and going for a bounce on their new, ginormous trampoline.

TandB Fri 05-Oct-12 10:16:03

How weird and rude.

I think you just need to bug em into submission if you don't want an all out fight about it.

Just go round every time they put it there and say 'please can you move your car". With no explanation or reason. They will inevitably say 'why?' and you just say 'because it is on my drive' with a puzzled look on your face. Don't give them any reasons or excuses - that is just creating an opening for negotiation or argument. Just absolutely factual every time. Move your car. Because it is on my drive.

Irritate them enough and it won't be worth their while to keep doing it.

TandB Fri 05-Oct-12 10:17:09

And I am a small Geordie and would be more than happy to put on my best accent and form a northern posse with your husband. I am quote arsey on occasion.....

Ithinkitsjustme Fri 05-Oct-12 10:22:17

A few nails on the drive on a regular basis might do the trick grin

Ithinkitsjustme Fri 05-Oct-12 10:23:34

Or drive round for 10 minutes and when they have parked, block them in with your new car - which they won't recogise

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Fri 05-Oct-12 10:33:52

I'm quite liking the idea of a posse of northern MNers

Blimey, people are very very odd about parking. I think in people's heads if they've been doing something for a while it becomes their right.

I really like the idea of one of those 'police aware' signs. That's brilliant. I also like the massive inflatable pumpkin.

streakybacon Fri 05-Oct-12 10:54:50

You need irregular, unannounced coffee mornings wink. And afternoons. For everyone you know (and some that you don't).

I'm in the NE - shall I bring scones?

CaptainVonTrapp Fri 05-Oct-12 11:01:53

The cheek of some people!

Go and get something out of the garage again today. Before you go practice saying outloud "It is inconvenient actually, can you use your own drive". Repeat the garage trips until they get the message.

Bluebell99 Fri 05-Oct-12 11:09:09

I have had a similar issue with my neighbours. They decided to landscape their front garden so I had two months of having to ask their builders to move as every day they blocked me in with a van. Then one day I came home to find they had parked a trailer in one of my spaces, the builder with attitude told me that my neighbour had said it would be okay. "did he now" i said, as I knocked on his door, and he answered with a cheery hello. He soon found out it wasn't okay. Still fumming about it now. He sent his wife round to apologise. I still can't believe the cheek of them though, as I would never in a million years park in one of their spaces!

SecretCervix Fri 05-Oct-12 11:12:57

Wow, I am reading this thread in complete disbelief at the sheer rudeness of some people, they have some brass balls don't they?

I'm an angry hormonal person (pregnant) and would have no problem storming round and biting her head off, I cannot STAND rude people and would give her a massive piece of my mind.

Oh can I OP, can I, can I, can I????? grin

Emandlu Fri 05-Oct-12 11:29:28

Oooh, did someone mention a NE coffee morning wink
I can bring cake.

I really don't understand why people think they can use others property without asking - it beggars belief!

InfinityWelcomesCarefulDrivers Fri 05-Oct-12 13:03:05

Strangely enough I've just been on another thread about using your neighbours bin and the consensus is diffeent. That said if you were on good terms with your neighbours and they were away for a period, I'd see no problem with using their drive, so I suppose that's the difference.

Jusfloatingby Fri 05-Oct-12 13:30:46

They have some cheek. I would leave a few pot plants, kids bikes etc on the drive until they get the message.

fuckadoodlepoopoo Fri 05-Oct-12 13:36:35

I can't believe the cheek of them! And i can't believe you told them it wasn't an inconvenience! grin

I would retract that in a letter through their door.

carabos Fri 05-Oct-12 14:09:41

Our NDNs are like this, right down to the "we own, you rent, you have fewer rights than us" attitude. The first day we moved in here neighbours both sides came round to tell us exactly where we could and couldn't park - funny thing is though, its a terrace house and all parking is on the public highway hmm. So they were in fact trying to ensure that they could park outside their houses and ours and we could park? - well elsewhere.

Then a random guy from the houses behind who had his own drive but didn't want to put a vehicle on it came round shouting the odds that we couldn't park at the back of the house either because he needed what would sensibly be our space for his van.

We took no notice of any of them and park on the street just like everyone else, but that didn't stop them banging on the door day and night and telling us that because we are tenants we had "no right" to park there.

One of them, as someone else suggested upthread is very territorial. He "patrols" the area immediately around his house at the back (again this is the public highway) and makes life a misery for anyone in the street who strays beyond his imaginary boundaries. He works stacking shelves in the supermarket at the end of our road and takes his boundary issues to work with him - when DH goes in there, he rushes over and starts rearranging anything DH touches, standing as close to him as he can, while never making eye contact or saying anything.

He sneaks up to our kitchen window (open yard at the back) when he thinks I'm not there and peers in and comes up the front path to do the same at the front windows occasionally. He gets quite agitated if I have the washing out and flips up big items so they are wrapped around the line which runs parallel to the pavement at the back if they are flapping in the wind hmm.

There's more - we caught him climbing on the roof of the coal shed trying to push something into the overflow pipe from the loo one day and for the first few years we were here, his DW used to throw leftover food onto the coal shed roof "for the rats birds to get". we asked her time and again to throw it onto her own roof but she didn't want the mess...angry.

I could go on - good to get all that out though wink. Sorry to hijack.

plutocrap Fri 05-Oct-12 14:14:07

Bloody hell, carabos!

Why don't you use their ownership against them, though? Raise some neighbour disputes with them, which they will have to disclose if they ever sell!

carabos Fri 05-Oct-12 14:23:27

plutocrat Don't worry, he's got plenty of neighbour disputes to deal with - just none of them started by us wink. What he doesn't realise is that everyone within about 10 houses of his is either totally intimidated by him (handy with his fists and his DW is the archetypical fishwife) or is making a complaint about them to whatever is the relevant authority for the current issue every verse end.

Most entertaining ones were when he built a stockade around the very small front garden and block paved it - we live in a conservation area so no sooner had this massive fence gone up then everyone opposite was onto the council (parish clerk being one of them grin). A week later he took it down and to this day he thinks it was us - too thick to realise that as we are the only people in the street who couldn't actually see it unless we were outside, then we hadn't bothered grin.

Another entertaining one, and related to the fence, was that his DW decided she was going to be a childminder. Turned out the fence was to create a safe play area, however, not having the benefit of complying to any of the requirements for CM - didn't register being the least of it, the children stopped coming after a few days, presumably when their mothers discovered that they were in fact simply leaving their pfbs with some random stranger grin grin.

He thinks we were behind that too. And don't get me started on his behaviour toward the family from Ivory Coast who arrived a couple of years ago and live on his other side...

fuckadoodlepoopoo Fri 05-Oct-12 14:29:17

Wow!

DesperatelySeekingPomBears Fri 05-Oct-12 14:35:53

Wow carabos, you make our neighbours seem positively saintly.

I'm just not very good at dealing with neighbour disputes. In our last house the whole cul de sac were wonderful. To be honest, if the house and landlord hadn't been so awful we'd never have moved.

Jacksmania Fri 05-Oct-12 19:48:28

So? What's happened? Has big and scary and hunky DH had a word?

Mumblepot26 Fri 05-Oct-12 20:10:08

Are you sure they haven't asked your dp, and he has forgotten to mention it?

HappyHippyChick Fri 05-Oct-12 20:20:29

Some of the things that I read on MN make me very aware of how sheltered I am from all the total loons that populate this country!

BlueSkySinking Fri 05-Oct-12 20:29:11

You need a fried to visit a few times and just block them in while they are in your space. Maybe go for a walk or something at the time they might be leaving?

YouMayLogOut Fri 05-Oct-12 20:36:47

Unbelievably cheeky of them to use your drive as their own personal car park! It doesn't matter whether or not it's an "inconvenience", it's your property and they should be asking you politely and apologetically, any time they want to stick their car on there!

Get yourself a telescopic bollard.

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