to buy my wedding dress

(75 Posts)
maddening Wed 04-Apr-12 14:27:12

from an online site that is obviously a chinese company copying designer dresses?

There are several reasons not to - the high chance of child labour and poor working conditions, the fact they are essentially stealing a design and the chance that it'll be poor quality.

but the dress is perfect and I don't know how to find out who the original designer is...

PurpleRomanesco Wed 04-Apr-12 14:30:10
daenerysstormborn Wed 04-Apr-12 14:30:37

did you see the gok wan programme about the chinese clothing industry (will be on 4-od)? it was very interesting, no child labour, working conditions were ok, long hours etc but the factories were clean and well equipped. he saw victoria secret underwear being made on the same production line as asda and m&s!

jenfraggle Wed 04-Apr-12 14:30:39

From my experience of a wedding forum that I used to use, the quality really varies. Can you post a link to the dress and someone may recognise it?

daenerysstormborn Wed 04-Apr-12 14:32:10

after reading that link, another point is you will have to pay import duty on anything brought from abroad.

MrsKittyFane Wed 04-Apr-12 14:32:32

Nasty cheap fabric, bad cut and poor workmanship not to meantion dubious work ethics.

Think Primani

maddening Wed 04-Apr-12 14:34:20

www.weddingbridalgowns.co.uk/w-s-82397.html

This is THE dress, I LOVE it - if anyone knows the original designer I'd go straight to them...

daenerysstormborn Wed 04-Apr-12 14:34:30

"Nasty cheap fabric, bad cut and poor workmanship not to meantion dubious work ethics."

not always. i've worked in the textile industry for years, and have dealt with far east suppliers many times, some are very good employers, and the quality is fine.

MrsKittyFane Wed 04-Apr-12 14:35:15

Find a local seamstress, show your design, get fitted, go and choose fabric or take picture to reputable dress shop.
But if you want a Primark equivalent for a wedding dress, go ahead!

MrsKittyFane Wed 04-Apr-12 14:38:28

Your dress looks very simple to make. I would get one made with beautiful fabric.

jenfraggle Wed 04-Apr-12 14:46:52

I've put the feelers out for you and will let you know when I hear anything

MrsKittyFane Wed 04-Apr-12 14:51:03
jenfraggle Wed 04-Apr-12 14:54:57
Mrsjay Wed 04-Apr-12 14:57:13

not the same but dd got a prom dress from china it was half the price and Beautiful , be careful though the chinese are smaller than us and the sizes are a little cozy , dd is a size 8/10 and the dress was a tiny bit of a squeeze not by much though just around the bust , iyswim ,

hairytaleofnewyork Wed 04-Apr-12 15:01:58

The Gok wan programme showed some harsh working conditions - living on site, same job with no variety for years on end (eg: ironer) and harsh targets.

Proudnscary Wed 04-Apr-12 15:03:44

You can easily get that made up by a local dressmaker.

It's really gorgeous by the way - I can see why you love it.

McPopcornMouseNFries Wed 04-Apr-12 15:20:24

It's beautiful!
At the very least, I'd request a sample of the fabric used before ordering?

daenerysstormborn Wed 04-Apr-12 15:27:39

those horrified at the thought of buying direct from china, have you checked the labels on the clothes you are wearing?, i've just done mine, next cardigan - made in china, asda jeans - made in china. the majority of the uk clothing market comes from china.

that aside, maddening, a wedding dress is different, you'll want it perfect and stress free. if you can, buy in the uk so you can try it on.

WestYorkshirePudding Wed 04-Apr-12 15:32:35

My sister saw her perfect wedding dress in a bridal shop for £800 then saw it online for £100. It was meant to be a copy of the original she'd seen but wasn't exactly the same so she got a local seamstress (?) to add a couple of features on the front and she had the perfect dress for £150 all in.

Probably not the most ethical purchase she'd ever made but then who's to say that the stuff you buy extortionately in Monsoon, etc. isn't made in the same conditions?

Go for it!

whackamole Wed 04-Apr-12 15:33:05

I'm having my dress made by a local dress maker, she has a shop on eBay. I can't bring up the picture of the specific one you want but mine is a tea-length fifties style.

This is her shop, I went there the other day and she measured me, I have been there before to try on. I looked at places like LightintheBox and while the dresses were lovely, I wanted to be sure that the fabric was nice and that the style would suit, also you could pay a huge customs fee when it is delivered (quite apart from the ethical side of course!).

CountryMouse27 Wed 04-Apr-12 16:59:52

I ordered my dress from China, had a lot of emails before I placed the order, they were really prompt in any alterations I wanted and they made the dress to my measurements.

I got a lot of dress for £200, I did pay duty on it but it wouldn't have been much.

Really good experience overall. Yes the material wasn't of the finest silk or lace but it looked nice. Its been in its bag now for 2 years in the back of the wardrobe. I didn't look at it as an investment, just a dress I would wear on my wedding day.

I feel pleased that I did as I dont feel under pressure to sell it on to recoup some cost like some friends and hopefully my mum can make it into a christening outfit.

emsyj Wed 04-Apr-12 17:42:32

It's Beverlywood from Dolly Couture - I am the owner of the UK stockist! grin

emsyj Wed 04-Apr-12 17:43:33

Oh, just to be a stalker OP I checked your profile and see you're in Cheshire - I am on the Wirral and have a home-based studio where you can try on this dress.

valiumredhead Wed 04-Apr-12 17:45:00

I know someone who has and they were delighted with it.

whackamole Wed 04-Apr-12 18:17:03

emsyj talk about coincidence!

The lady I have bought my dress from is on the Wirral too - obviously a good place for wedding dresses! grin

emsyj Wed 04-Apr-12 18:34:04

I know who you mean, whackamole! I think the 50s style dresses are becoming really popular now (which is good for me, obviously!) grin

maddening Wed 04-Apr-12 20:14:39

omg mn is amazing! I can't believe that within a few hours you guys have found my dress!

emsjy - am on a weight loss mission - how far before the day - a year away haha - do you need to fit it ?

wow thanks ladies!

emsyj Wed 04-Apr-12 20:20:27

Dolly couture dresses take up to 12 weeks to arrive, plus you'd want it about 6 weeks before the wedding for fittings - so you've got plenty of time. I would say try it on though, it's fairly unusual for brides to order the dress they like best in a picture - not unheard of, but unusual, so if you can fit in a trying-on session then it's a good idea. I would aim to have ordered your dress by 6 months before the wedding.

roses2 Wed 04-Apr-12 20:29:17

Mine was from China, took four weeks from me sending my measurements to recieving it. Absolutely gorgeous:

http://www.dressilyme.com/

maddening Wed 04-Apr-12 20:45:20

oh no - must stop eating then!

emsyj Wed 04-Apr-12 20:46:25

You can have alterations as late as you need before the day...! smile

maddening Wed 04-Apr-12 20:55:31

ps emsyj please could I pm you?

emsyj Wed 04-Apr-12 20:58:01

Yes, you can pm me on here or contact me through the website - whatever suits.

delilahlilah Wed 04-Apr-12 21:14:39

I bought mine from a Chinese seller on Ebay. I didn't pay duty, it was custom made and I absolutely loved it. The dresses here have got so over expensive that it is no surprise that people look elsewhere.

Heswall Wed 04-Apr-12 22:19:27

Honestly did Mary what's her name teach you nothing, buy British and kick start OUR economy.

Rhubarbgarden Wed 04-Apr-12 22:44:05

Emsyj did you used to be on the YAYW site?!

emsyj Thu 05-Apr-12 11:15:33

"Emsyj did you used to be on the YAYW site?!"

Yes indeed! grin

lemmein Thu 05-Apr-12 11:49:01

I bought my daughters prom dress off a Chinese seller on Ebay. I was really worried incase it turned out to be a huge mistake but the dress was BEAUTIFUL. Its hung up in my bedroom now and I can't stop looking at it - it cost just over 50 quid!!

The week before I ordered it I took her to a prom dress shop - there wasn't ONE less than £300 shock - NO WAY would I pay £300 for a dress she would wear for a couple of hours. They weren't even nice - it looked like Lily Savages dressing room!

I'm hoping to get married next year and will use the same seller - it was overall a very positive experience, despite the nail biting wait.

Rhubarbgarden Thu 05-Apr-12 12:48:02

[Grin] Black and White cat avatar? When I saw your username that's what popped into my head, and I was thinking 'why am I seeing a black and white cat? Then I thought wedding dresses, and it clicked! Hah!

nitrox Thu 05-Apr-12 12:59:42

OP - Just for reference, import tax on the dress for £108 (based on a guestimate £15 for delivery), would be £27.

You can check the import duty for any item here:

www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/

I'm a total tom-boy and even I think it's so pretty smile

emsyj Thu 05-Apr-12 13:21:47

Yes - that's my mog, Leo. He's so handsome! I wish we had avatars on here <wistful>...

Which one were you? Did you have Rhubarb in your user name? Are you a teacher??? Is it you who had the Candy Anthony with the floral print...?

ViviPru Thu 05-Apr-12 13:25:53

Emsyj, can you recommend a wedding forum that's more rockmywedding/rocknrollbride/WhimsicalWonderlandWeddings and less bogstandard trad & tickers please? All the forums I've found seem to be so netmums. TIA

Rhubarbgarden Thu 05-Apr-12 13:27:27

I was just 'Rhubarb' there - smaller place! Stick of rhubarb for my avatar (totally agree we should have them here!) I'm not a teacher, I did have a floral dress but it was Claire Pettibone not Candy Anthony. I think we had babies at the same time and were on the same You and Your Baby thread. Eeh, it's a small cyberworld! grin

emsyj Thu 05-Apr-12 13:27:58

Hmmmm dunno really - I only ever used YAYW, although I think Offbeat Bride might be less 'itsurdayhunhugslolxxx' - I've never been on it but I have seen it mentioned by lots of the 'unconventional' brides on YAYW. here

ViviPru Thu 05-Apr-12 13:28:32

Cool, thanks, that looks a bit more the ticket!

emsyj Thu 05-Apr-12 13:29:29

AAAAAAAAAAAAH I KNOW YOU NOW!!!!! It was you with the AMAZING flowers, wasn't it? Did you have a floral headdress? I know you had some sort of unusual floral decoration, can't remember if it was headdress or wrist corsage.

ViviPru Thu 05-Apr-12 13:30:58

oOOOooooo you have to be approved to post on Offbeat! That appeals to my competitive streak!

<ponders the idea of such a system on MN>

nickelhasababy Thu 05-Apr-12 13:32:34

blimey.
I used to be on yayw too.
i took the piss mainly blush

nickelhasababy Thu 05-Apr-12 13:33:57

noone will guess who i used to be.

(i tried to convert people to use proper hymns, and I was namechecked too! )

emsyj Thu 05-Apr-12 13:34:57

Really, ViviPru??? shock

Maybe it's to keep the lolmongers out!

nickelhasababy Thu 05-Apr-12 13:37:15

yeah, they're still choosing crap hymns.
would comment if dd wasn't eating (cos i can't be bothered to research and suggest)
blush

Rhubarbgarden Thu 05-Apr-12 13:39:19

[preens] yes I had a floral headdress and copious flowers all over the place - I'm a gardener. Tickled that you remember! I got SO hooked on YAYW. It was indeed a bit 'itsurdayhunlol' grin but not everyone was like that. It took me ages to wean myself off it and now here I am addicted to MN

Rhubarbgarden Thu 05-Apr-12 13:41:23

Nickel ooh were you really? Who were you? Tell, tell!

nickelhasababy Thu 05-Apr-12 13:41:46

i preferred bigday.co.uk, which was set up because they got fed up of the yayw bitchiness grin

nickelhasababy Thu 05-Apr-12 13:42:26

originally vhc till they changed the name-length rules so i was changed to veryhungrycaterpillar.

emsyj Thu 05-Apr-12 13:42:50

I pretty much switched one addiction for another too blush. What I need is a job with no internet access, then that would solve my problems entirely!

wheresthepopcorn Thu 05-Apr-12 13:48:45

I see there is no contact telephone number if there is a problem. Why not take these pictures to a local dressmaker to copy?

Rhubarbgarden Thu 05-Apr-12 13:54:54

I do remember you vhc. Oh this is all too funny.

GinIsTheAnswer Thu 05-Apr-12 13:59:09

That is very similar to my wedding dress. I used a local dressmaker and my rather poor sketches. Between us we made it happen & for a very reasonable price.
Good luck smile

PinkPolkaDots Thu 05-Apr-12 14:01:29

Oh Rhubarb and emsyj I was a YAYW addict too! my username was smartarse and I remember both of your names popping up! Oh how i long for the use of an avatar again! grin

ViviPru Thu 05-Apr-12 14:09:19

Yeah, they even have guidelines for dos and don'ts when filling out your 'application form'... I was half expecting to be asked to produce an advocate from a forum I am already a member of to provide a reference! Felt like saying 'but I'm accepted on MN - I have friends there and everything!

I might dip a toe in YAYW too. Satisfy the sparkly hun in me....

Rhubarbgarden Thu 05-Apr-12 14:22:09

Smartarse! You were funny! Wasn't it you who had the Lionel Richtea avatar?

emsyj Thu 05-Apr-12 15:19:24

The Lionel Richtea thing made me have full-on hysterics in the office - I might (^might^) even have forwarded it to everyone in my team so they could share the hilarity blush. I cried laughing at that thing.

'Hello....... Is it tea you're lookin' for?'

nickelhasababy Thu 05-Apr-12 15:55:59

grin

I didn't have an avatar - too much like hard work! grin

i've forgotten my password. sad

PinkPolkaDots Thu 12-Apr-12 10:32:26

Ha ha - no Lionel Richtea wasnt me, but it was hilarious! (can't for the life of me think who that was now! - something plum or plum something springs to mind?
My avatar was usually a mousepad with the word smartarse on it. But I did change it quite alot!
admittedly I was more of a lurker than a poster (same as MN really) but I read almost every thread so I always knew who and what was going on! grin

PinkPolkaDots Thu 12-Apr-12 10:33:07

Just thought... was Lionel Richtea plumduff? that rings a bell!

BettyandDon Sun 17-Mar-13 21:10:24

I am buying mine direct from the designer. I am proud to support a British designer. Luckily though my pop is paying. I feel there is a lot of risk in buying from China and the stress would kill me!

IAmLouisWalsh Sun 17-Mar-13 21:21:22

My MILmade my dress. We toured the wedding shops of Brum and she made me try on stuff that cost £2k ( this was 14 years ago!). Then she copied the £800 dress I liked for the grand total of £75. And a chunk of that was the cost of having buttons covered to match the bodice fabric - fabric cost less than £50.

LegoAcupuncture Sun 17-Mar-13 21:35:03

Zombie thread confused

roses2 Sun 17-Mar-13 21:40:51

I bought mine from China (http://www.dressilyme.com/). It was absolutely stunning and identical to the one I tried in the shop which was 10x the cost.

IAmLouisWalsh Sun 17-Mar-13 21:42:22

Ah,fuck - missed the Zombieness

selsigfach Sun 17-Mar-13 23:15:45

I found a beautiful ebay dress for £100 that looked just perfect in the photos. I ordered it thinking that for £100, I'd chance it and if it wasn't perfect, I wouldn't have lost much. When it came it was too hideous for words, but surprisingly enough I did get a partial refund so only lost £50. I then got the most amazing silk dress from bridalbasement.co.uk (shop is in Liverpool) for £250 (had a £1,300 price tag on it.) Wish I'd gone there in the first place.

MusicalEndorphins Mon 18-Mar-13 02:40:20

Your dilemma is solved, but for future dress or image searching, right click on the pic and copy the image URL then paste it in google images. Then click on "Search by image". You will find it if it is on the web. This is good if checking that a profile picture is "real" or a snagged picture from elsewhere too.
These pics came from using the URL of the dress pic you posted.
Image Search

MusicalEndorphins Mon 18-Mar-13 02:41:32

Oops, a year old now. Oh well, maybe the infor will help someone else.

Jengnr Mon 18-Mar-13 02:47:43

My mate got hers from China for £80 and it was gorgeous! Go for it!

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