Catgate

(373 Posts)
SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 09:58:54

This rumbles on and on, so far have done the following;

asked nicely
got cross
written letters
telephoned
offered to get them a cat (they don't want one)
kept cat indoors, except for 15 mins in morning

but they are STILL feeding mine who is greedy and if I'm not on the ball during his 15 min morning run will be let into their house and not let out until I telephone to ask them to let him out.

Apparently, they used to keep a cat and for sentimental reasons they keep his bowls and 'put a little food down' which my cat nibbles on YET they have done everything they reasonably can NOT to feed my cat

[now absolutely fucking furious emoticon]

samandi Wed 07-Dec-11 09:59:56

YADNBU, but I have no advice. They sound weird as fuck.

samandi Wed 07-Dec-11 10:01:01

Perhaps say that he needs special food as ill?

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 10:02:06

Done that in writing

they put a little food in a bowl, for sentimental reasons?

agree with samandi, they sound weird.

GypsyMoth Wed 07-Dec-11 10:03:01

Put things on edge of their property that cats hate..... Isn't there cat deterrent gadgets, plants, sprays etc?

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 10:03:01

I have a file and am keeping notes, feel like some crazed person

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 10:04:32

had to phone this morning as cat was inside and I could see him through frosted door, she said ' I will check if hes in here'. WTF? YOU KNOW AS YOU LET HIM IN !!!!

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 10:05:56

will investigate sprays and do it in dead of night

ViviPrudolf Wed 07-Dec-11 10:06:18

They ABU, but as you say you've tried everything so now you'll just have to approach it from a different angle.

Just accept that this is the situation now, your neighbours will be feeding your cat in the morning and you will save on your catfood bills. Tell them this will be so. Either arrange for them to let him out every day at an agreed time, or suck up that you're going to have to ring them every morning to ask for the release of moggy. Its just going to have to become part of your routine - sounds like it already is, but it's currently an irritant rather than an accepted situation.

I don't think you will be able to change their behaviour or your cats, so you're just going to have to alter your own perception of it all. Not really fair on you, but a solution nonetheless.

i think your only option is to keep him inside 24/7, but thats not really fair on the cat.

is he chipped?

samandi Wed 07-Dec-11 10:07:10

Put a collar on your cat stating "Do not feed".
Talk to the RSPCA.
Tell your neighbour you have spoken to the RSPCA.

Would this count as animal abuse? hmm

Same ere.

Fatbastard cat has now pissed off and lives with the tart two doors up the road, causing a lot of upset to my dd.

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 10:07:38

Was thinking of sending DCs over for breakfast too

oh, citrus peel is supposed to deter cats, could you chuck a load under their hedges?

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 10:10:05

Hes chipped, ACT thats what I'm worried about, this cat was my mums and given to us after H died. They are not having him. They don't want one anyway, they told me. So why keep feeding mine; because I pay the fucking vets bills and as he gets fatter, the bills get bigger!

samandi Wed 07-Dec-11 10:10:21

Was thinking of sending DCs over for breakfast too

grin

Why don't you all go round?

MissPentChristmasBudget Wed 07-Dec-11 10:12:20

They sound a bit unhinged. The only thing I can think of is to phone the police; if they've taken your cat into their house, that's theft. It seems a bit OTT though, and the police might just laugh at you. No idea what else to suggest.

ViviPrudolf Wed 07-Dec-11 10:13:56

Are you friendly with any other neighbours in your street? There's strength in numbers and if you went and laid it on the line for them with a bit of back up as it were, they might be more inclined to acquiesce if they realise how unpopular their behaviour is making them?

ViviPrudolf Wed 07-Dec-11 10:15:06

*Yes I am suggesting intimidation. I'm not proud of that but if someone nicked the 'Prudog, I'd call in reinforcements...

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 10:18:53

Other neighbours know, we have all lived here for years, this couple though keep themselves to themselves, she has a reputation for being 'bonkers' and he doesn't even say hello. Have only recently started speaking to him when he approached me to check cat was mine and tell me ALL cats have two homes and that my cat loves to sit on his favourite cushion in their house and be fed chicken and tuna!!!!

LisasCat Wed 07-Dec-11 10:20:53

I second the RSPCA involvement. Nothing you've tried has worked, they need a bit of intimidation, and those RSPCA inspectors can look quite officious in their uniforms. If they threaten these nutjobs with a fine and a ban on ever owning animals again that should shit them up a bit.

Perhaps offer them a sizable donation if they help you with this distressing matter. It's not bribery, merely covering any costs they may incur by visiting your area.

Alternatively, rub your cat against another cat with fleas, and then send him straight round there. Or feed him something that doesn't make him ill but makes his poo particularly special for a few hours (suggestions, anyone?).

startail Wed 07-Dec-11 10:22:32

Knock on DSILs door. Hi we are from the camp site.
She gets this sometimes if the owners are out.
No they want to check her cats ok, because they haven't seen him this visit.
DSIL says he's fine asleep on the bed and ends up taking concerned couple up to see him.
Turns out for several weeks each summer her cat has been made a bed in their caravan and made a right royal fuss of.
Her family are veggies, so she knows he goes off scrounging bacon rind etc, but she'd no idea he had a whole other home.
She said the couple were totally sweet, but total mad. Didn't seem to have struck them that the cat had a loving home.

ViviPrudolf Wed 07-Dec-11 10:22:43

You need to get heavy on their asses. They're getting away with it because they're the 'mad ones' Well you should be the mad one now. Crazy cat lady who goes round screaming like a wild woman at her neighbours. Freak them out so bad that they'll never want to see your cat again.

CatPussRoastingByAnOpenFire Wed 07-Dec-11 10:25:15

If your cat only goes out for 15 minutes, id be building a cat run in the back garden. If it's only for a short time, don't let him leave your premises. I think if you call the police, they will laugh at you!
Fwiw, I think it's generally not you personally hypocritical. Cat owners make a huge fuss about a cats right to roam, when someone complains about cat shit! This cat is doing just that... Roaming! If you don't want it to roam, pen it in.

WhoopsyLa Wed 07-Dec-11 10:27:36

Get a legal letter.....it's bloody theft! If they get a solicitors letter they will soon stop! So cheeky!

CoffeeDog Wed 07-Dec-11 10:28:11

Present them with the next vet bill as the want to 'share' YOUR cat... should be enough to put them off...

If you have a accomadating vet get them to list a few of the treatments he requires (obviousley bump it up a bit).

We have 1 cat... we also get visited by upstairs cat and next door cat.... tried EVERYTHING to stop the buggers comming in but all three come and go as they please - in all 3 houses. all three owners have given up trying to enforce rules on the bloody cats.

Magnetic cat flap dont work as cats follow each other face to bum to get through before they lock/ same with the fortune upstairs spent on a chip one As long as they stay off the worktops and dont mind the twins 'loving' them they can stay ;) works out brilliant if one of us wants to go away for a few days ;)

schroeder Wed 07-Dec-11 10:28:40

Have you tried talking to the police?

Don't go ringing 999 obviously, but the comunity support officer could go around and have a quiet word.

I get all het up just thinking about this I would be livid in your situation, how bloody dare they?

marthastew Wed 07-Dec-11 10:28:59

If they refuse to take your request seriously, who would they pay attention to?

Could their kids/relatives/other neighbours have a word with them? Agree with talking to the RSPCA and seeing what they think about it. Letter from your vet? Letter from a solicitor?Do you have a friendly neighbourhood policeman you could sound out about it?

Do you have time to really make yourself a nuisance to them and go round there immediately every time they let him on? Maybe over Christmas when they have family round? If you can't see their house from yours, get a cat collar cam?

EnjoyResponsiblyIfSleighFlying Wed 07-Dec-11 10:29:33

Attach offensive object to cat eg stink bomb with timer to let off when neighbour opens door grin

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 10:29:44

late for work, will check in later, cat indoors now looking mournfully at food bowl even though hes eaten two breakfasts.

Startail shock mad crazy people

I do feel for you, this happened to two of my chidhood cats with the people who's garden backed on to my parents, they took both f them despite my Mum taking me round in tears, the couple simply said the cats obviously prefered being there are there was nothing they could do sad

I am pretty sure that in law you cannot 'own' a cat, they are not classed as property (though dogs are) this is why you are not obliged to inform anyone if you hit a cat on the road, but must if you hit a dog.

PurpleRayne Wed 07-Dec-11 10:31:34

If he's not such an outdoor focused cat (which sounds the case), perhaps it is time to become an indoor cat with access to an outdoor run.

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 10:31:56

EnjoyResponsibly grin

Fluffycloudland77 Wed 07-Dec-11 10:32:51

If they are feeding an overweight cat is that cat abuse though? I mean if the vet has told you he is overweight and to diet him and you cant because these weirdos keep feeding him?.

Could you complain to the police? theft is assuming the rights of ownership over something that is not yours.

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 10:35:16

Cats are property of owner in law, yet have right to roam. I told neighbour if my cat did damage I would be responsible then he said HE could get an INJUNCTION against ME because my cat scratches HIS furniture!

DONT LET IT IN THEN AND FFS DONT FEED IT; its mindblowingly fucking bonkers dealing with these people

I really have to go now i'm late

stinkyfluffycat Wed 07-Dec-11 10:41:01

Tell them the cat has fleas? Fake a scary - looking solicitor's letter? Actually get a scary - looking solicitor's letter? (although I have no idea if feeding someone else's cat is actually remotely illegal).
Tell them the over - feeding is making him puke?
Tell them cat is possessed by Satan/a voodoo priest/dead person of your choice?

FaverollesWithBoughsOfHolly Wed 07-Dec-11 10:47:37

I lost my cat to a neighbour who decided to feed it hmm
Personally, I would be keeping the cat indoors from now on.
If that's impossible, send a solicitors letter spelling out the fact that the cat is yours, and any vet bills due to problems brought about by the cat being overweight will be paid for by them, as they are responsible for the cat overeating.

momnipotent Wed 07-Dec-11 10:52:54

I can't get over the fact that they don't own a cat but put food down for sentimental reasons. Bizarre! So if your cat didn't come and eat it, presumably the next morning they throw away the old food and replace it. Isn't that just asking for an infestation of some sort?!

snuffaluffagus Wed 07-Dec-11 10:53:50

I'd keep him inside for a good while, maybe break the cycle.

ujjayi Wed 07-Dec-11 10:56:58

I feel for you. A good friend and neighbour did this continually with one of our cats. I heard them discussing with neighbours how he preferred their home to ours, was lectured to by them how I obviously didn't provide enough food and water for him as he was always hungry/thirsty at their house (all stated in a very passive-aggressive manner), had DCs in tears over half term when they noticed that once again cat was sitting on their windowsill being fussed and played with by their GCs. I repeatedly asked them kindly not to do so, explaining how upsetting it was for us all. Ultimately I had to have a real stinking argument with them. We have our cat back but sadly the friendship did not survive.

I agree that either you need to get the arse good and proper with them or you need to go via a solicitor.

LulaBear Wed 07-Dec-11 11:10:45

My mum had this exact problem a couple of years ago hmm called the police, who said they couldn't do anything. Chipped the cat, told them he was diabetic, "do not feed collars" the whole lot. You just sort of have to go to war, I'm afraid. I have no idea why people don't adopt one of the many cats that need good homes. Still makes me really angry, my mums disabled and it really put her back.

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 11:47:26

definitely feel we are at war stage, though in one last final bid will send DP round there. I get impression that the H of the pair is distinctly old school, women should know their place types due to the fact that his tone of voice with me is one of 'I should be listening to him', then refuses to talk if I have anything to say.

During our last telephone conversation when I asked why they could not respect my wishes he put the wife on who then shouted down the phone ' who the hell do you think you are? You are not someone off Strictly Come Dancing', then she slammed phone down

needless to say I didn't call back as its pointless

ChippingInNeedsSleep Wed 07-Dec-11 11:56:34

Your DP hasn't been around yet?? Definitely get him to go around and 'on the war path' too - not in a nicey nicey neighbour way. Get him wound up about it.

Have you gone off at them? Full banshee style?

Local police - get upset, explain about your Mum giving you the cat after DH died etc. Explain they're old but bonkers and ask if they could just pop by.

Good Luck !!

CinnabarRed Wed 07-Dec-11 11:56:45

So they would listen to someone off Strictly? Time to get Brucie on the case....

CinnabarRed Wed 07-Dec-11 11:58:19

It would make great telly.

SirSugar Wed 07-Dec-11 11:59:52

have been keeping DP back as last resort

SirSugar Thu 08-Dec-11 10:13:40

Phoned RSPCA yesterday and they clarified that should neighbour let cat in then keep it in, not giving it free access to get out of house then neighbour is 'with holding my property'.

This morning let it out and then saw man letting it in the house and shutting door. called cat loudly next to their house for 15 mins and filmed it sitting inside their house by frosted glass door, meowing to be let out; saw man inside house walk past door and ignore cat and my calling.

sent over DP, when he banged on front door, man quickly let cat out of side door.

Man is nutcase, said cat got in by itself and then invited us round for drinks to discuss the matter so that we may observe polite society (his words). He wants us to go round and discuss reasonably his unreasonable behaviour, surely their are better ways of ingratiating yourselves towards your neighbours?

ChippingInNeedsSleep Thu 08-Dec-11 10:17:30

He wants you to 'observe polite society'

Tell him the only thing you will be observing is the ambulance when they bring the little white coats around. They've completely lost the plot.

What did your DP say????

fergoose Thu 08-Dec-11 10:18:57

I have had a similar problem, but nowhere near as bad as you SirSugar

The Strictly comment - what are you going to do, send Tess round. Your neighbour sounds utterly bizarre.

I am sorry but how can you be expected to observe polite society if he is stealing your cat? I would be calling the non emergency police for advice at least. At least then their unreasonable behaviour is on record then if nothing else.

SirSugar Thu 08-Dec-11 11:04:48

DP said we have been more than reasonable but now its game over DO NOT LET CAT IN AND DO NOT FEED IT. man wasn't listening except to the sound of his own voice.

will seek advice from CPO later today

As for mans wife, he locks her in house all day whilst he goes off to work and she is quite 'nutty', but I wonder if living with him has sent her round the bend

fergoose Thu 08-Dec-11 11:14:23

It certainly sounds like it could have sent her round the bend - poor woman

I wonder if a quiet word from the police is all this man will listen to.

Time for the police, I agree. Maybe get someone independant to witness them deliberately letting the cat into their house.

NoOnesGoingToEatYourMincePies Thu 08-Dec-11 11:59:16

Can you apply to appear on Strictly Come Dancing?

I work with a woman who is feeding a cat she doesn't own. She's bonkers too. We've tried to discourage her from feeding it and letting it in but she still keeps turning up at work with photo's of 'her' cat, asleep on the sofa or spread out on the carpet. There's a picture of it in her wedding album (she married last month).

She replies with "Well if they looked after it properly it wouldn't want to come to us..."

If your bonkers couple are like my bonkers colleague and her even more bonkers husband you are banging your head against a brick wall OP.

PopcornMouse Thu 08-Dec-11 12:08:13

Bloody hell, what nutters! Do let us know what the CPO says.

Surely this could be construed as some sort of antisocial behaviour as well as theft?? (Slap em with an asbo! grin )

Cover cat in something obnoxious like Jeremy Clarkson pictures
Or buy a tiger

<useless answer winner>

ViviPrudolf Thu 08-Dec-11 12:13:30

shock @ NoOnes bonkers colleague

FruitShoots - I want a tiger cub, but dh says I can't have one. sad

SirSugar Thu 08-Dec-11 12:35:35

had to resist the urge this morning to ask man if his terrible toupee hair was actually remains of his dearly departed cat

hiddenhome Thu 08-Dec-11 12:38:31

I really feel for you sad I have two cats and I'd be mad if anyone was trying to entice them away from home.

I'd be really nasty rude in a situation like this angry, but that's just me blush

SnapesMistressofMerriment Thu 08-Dec-11 12:38:46

Can you show film to RSPCA?

hiddenhome Thu 08-Dec-11 12:40:27

Push for an ASBO or whatever they're doling out these days. A woman in Whitby ended up with one for feeding the birds in her garden. I know that's a bit daft, but they are in effect, stealing your property.

babyicebean Thu 08-Dec-11 13:06:57

They sound seriously weird,

would he listen to you if you went round in full strictly gear - fake tan,sequins,dress and heels. all else fails you could batter him with the shoes.

TandB Thu 08-Dec-11 13:20:33

Send them a very formal (ideally solicitor's) letter setting out the history of the situation and stating that your cat is under the care of the vet who has instructed that a limited diet should be followed for the cat's health. Since you have evidence in film format of their deliberate attempts to thwart the diet process you will be presenting them with a bill for any further vet's bills in relation to this issue should they not desist immediately.

If they don't stop, invoice them for the next bill and when they refuse to pay it send them something called a letter before claim informing them that if they do not settle the claim you will be taking them to the small claims court.

SantasStrapon Thu 08-Dec-11 13:23:11

<rewinds>

Did you say he locks his wife in whilst he goes to work? Can she get out? Could you use this as a basis to get the Police involved (no idea if this is possible) - along the lines of 'there is this completely mad bloke in our street who locks his wife in the house whilst he is at work and is stealing my cat, and I have it on film'.

If not, I have some lovely dresses you can borrow when you go round for your drinks and 'polite society' talk.

Or a naice poster of ballroom dancers with 'this man is a cat thief' written on it and nailed to his gate?

pictish Thu 08-Dec-11 13:29:32

What a pair of nutters! OMG.

No advice - they are mad. Don't know what to say. Bonkers.

Fuzzled Thu 08-Dec-11 13:29:36

Oh dear. We used to be one of those neighbours - our neighbours cat decided to become ours... suspect because next door man took up smoking sad

However, we spoke to them about it and came to an agreement about food/water and looking after her - i.e. we wouldn't feed her, although she did have a water bowl, she was to be back there at night, but we'd look after her in their house when they were away. Very amicable and a great way to make friends.

We then moved - I still miss the fluffy ball in my lap snoring sad

olgaga Thu 08-Dec-11 13:29:46

I agree that if you call the police, they'll laugh at you.

Honestly, I don't think you can do anything about this other than recognise the fact that your cat gets food at their place - so give your cat less food! What's the problem?

Perhaps there are other cats these people feed and the owners are quite happy with the arrangement. Think of it from their point of view. "Here she comes again moaning - why doesn't she just keep her bloody cat in if she doesn't like it?"

Cats aren't dolls, they're animals. Part of being a cat is hunting/scrounging food. That's their fun! You can't control where they go or what they do unless you build a pen for them.

FantasticVoyage Thu 08-Dec-11 13:33:33

' who the hell do you think you are? You are not someone off Strictly Come Dancing'

WTF???

FantasticVoyage Thu 08-Dec-11 13:37:02

@SantasStrapon

Could you use this as a basis to get the Police involved (no idea if this is possible) - along the lines of 'there is this completely mad bloke in our street who locks his wife in the house whilst he is at work and is stealing my cat, and I have it on film'.

This nearly made me spray tea all over my laptop.

RachelHRD Thu 08-Dec-11 13:40:43

Could you put up some cat fencing on your joint boundary so your cat couldn't get to their property or you could try this invisible fencing which restricts your cat to within your boundary?

limitedperiodonly Thu 08-Dec-11 13:43:38

Oh God, loony cat people.

kungfu's advice is brilliant. I really hope it works for you.

I had an seemingly normal friend who used to do this with a neighbour's cat. She also used the line that they weren't looking after it properly which was nonsense. Her boyfriend begged her not to do it because it would upset the neighbours. The neighbours eventually came round for a screaming match and she hid inside letting her boyfriend take it all. They're not together any more grin

A mad woman used to put out food for cats in my garden. I nicely asked her not to and she called me a cat-hater and jabbed the fork at my face. I told the police and they knew exactly who I was talking about. They had a word and she didn't come round again but used to hiss at me in the street. I think she might be dead now or locked up.

Surely the only reasonable response to "Who the hell do you think you are? You are not someone off Strictly Come Dancing!" is "Woof to you, lady"?

Fight mad with mad!

SantasStrapon Thu 08-Dec-11 13:46:02

I think she might be dead now or locked up <snort>

I still think the Police are a good idea, I know it's luck of the draw who you get, but they are incredibly helpful round here.

limitedperiodonly Thu 08-Dec-11 13:47:21

I suppose the police got involved because of the threatening behaviour not the cat food. Could anything they've done be classed as threatening or intimidating, even a little bit? I've always found the police community officers really helpful.

limitedperiodonly Thu 08-Dec-11 13:50:23

'Woof to you lady' is an excellent response and will make them think you're dangerously unhinged and not to be crossed. Also try: 'willy, willy, willy'.

LineRunnerCrouchingReindeer Thu 08-Dec-11 13:55:20

I would be fucked off, too. One of my cats has a really poncey diet now as a way to avoid cystitis. Cat cystitis costs a bloody fortune for the vet to treat it.

One crumb of go-cat on its lips and I'm reaching for the credit card again.

SantasStrapon Thu 08-Dec-11 13:58:08

Well, SirSugar has already tried to discuss it reasonably on a few occasions. And has made formal verbal requests for the neighbours to stop. If they're ignoring advice recommended by the RSPCA then I'd say Police would be the next step.

SirSugar Thu 08-Dec-11 14:00:55

SNT have taken interest, and I told them it may not be wise to go there during day as he locks his wife in whilst out at work. They will be in touch

SirSugar Thu 08-Dec-11 14:01:34

And I said she doesn't answer door

SantasStrapon Thu 08-Dec-11 14:02:49

What is SNT please?

SirSugar Thu 08-Dec-11 14:04:02

Safer neighbourhood team

ViviPrudolf Thu 08-Dec-11 14:04:27

Another thread, another instance of me wishing I had a mini kungfupannda permanently in my pocket to dispense sage advice on tap.

limitedperiodonly Thu 08-Dec-11 14:04:44

The police Safer Neighbourhoods Team strapon. Mine are my heroes.

fergoose Thu 08-Dec-11 14:06:48

Do you think they may take any action about him locking his wife in - it is worth you calling the police about that issue alone? I worry for his wife now to be honest.

SirSugar Thu 08-Dec-11 14:06:51

cat is in fact pedigree and micro chipped so I have all its paperwork

would be willing to bet man has sent his wife crazy

SantasStrapon Thu 08-Dec-11 14:08:33

Ahh good plan, SirSugar smile

ViviPrudolf Thu 08-Dec-11 14:08:48

This is starting to sound potentially like a massive can of worms, OP. Hope it all ends well for you.

SirSugar Thu 08-Dec-11 14:10:28

Am seeing how it unfolds, She only ever goes out when he takes her, is known to be strange. i told him his wife is probably lonely and offered to get cat, he refused saying they are too old for cats.

She may be 'nutty' but he is frankly nasty and thinks he knows best. Never thought of her like that.

Anyway have told SNT I think shes locked in

SnapesMistressofMerriment Thu 08-Dec-11 15:02:08

Hmm, maybe community support officer as well aboutt he locking his wife in. What if there was a fire? He would come home to no house and no wife. sad

aStarOverMangerways Thu 08-Dec-11 17:17:25

In the meantime, put a scrawly note under the cat's collar: LEAVE ME ALONE YOU STINKY WEIRDOS.

JamieComeHome Thu 08-Dec-11 17:24:01

I know someone who works on Strictly. Shall I ask him to get "Head Judge" Len Goodman to write a stern letter?

NoOnesGoingToEatYourMincePies Thu 08-Dec-11 17:25:05

Vivi - colleague is bonkers but we like her. Our biggest concern is that the cat had fleas and now colleague has them in her home. She is covered in bites but won't accept it's from the cat. We suspect cat's owners are treating the cat and probably their house but then bonkers colleague is allowing re-infestation because she won't treat her home.

OP I hope the SNT can get things sorted out for you.

JamieComeHome Thu 08-Dec-11 17:25:55

If he locks his wife in then there's something up. I wonder if she has mental health problems or dementia. This is potentially one for Social Services as it could be classed as elder abuse (they are old?)

cakeismysaviour Thu 08-Dec-11 17:45:17

SNT sounds like a good move, if that fails then kungfupannda's advice is spot on.

SirSugar Thu 08-Dec-11 17:49:46

they are in their sixties

JamieComeHome Thu 08-Dec-11 17:53:05

Locking someone in could be classed as abusive. He may be doing it to stop her wandering, if she has dementia, in which case she's potentially not safe at home, and they need SS involvement. Or he's abusing her. Hope SNT can get to the bottom of this

fergoose Thu 08-Dec-11 17:57:17

I think you and your DP should go round there together - be a witness incase this neighbour tries to make allegations that you say threatened him (not that you would but I think you need to cover your backs as they sound clearly unhinged)

Do this couple have any children or family who visit - could you have a word with them if they do?

learningtofly Thu 08-Dec-11 18:40:03

I too was going to suggest SS too - they should have a vulnerable adults safeguarding team. Even if he is locking the door to protect her from wandering it is still a situation which needs someone professional offering support and assessment.

SirSugar Thu 08-Dec-11 18:42:08

Have been keeping thorough records anyway, sent three formal letters ( I have one crazy letter from her where she talks about her education and says my cat will be well looked after if iit comes over to their house and should I not wish to feed it it would be best that I let someone else. Signed , your loving neighbour, Mrs X ). Also kept records of telephone conversations

Never had any contact with them in twelve years of living here until now. Not worried about any accusations they try to bring.

When he first approached me he said he thought it may be a stray cat. Will post a pic on profile.

CinnabarRed Thu 08-Dec-11 22:28:53

Take a photo of your cat at your neighbours' window miaowing to get out - make sure it's very obviously their house, include their house name/number if you can - and run up hundreds of "Lost. Reward if found" posters all over your neighbourhood.

Sazzle41 Fri 09-Dec-11 14:38:48

You've tried everything else, so ... FWIW, going onto the small claims court website, downloading the claim forms (up to £3K costs £95 but you can claim your costs on top, limit is £5K I think) filling them in and putting a 'draft' thru their door with 'this is being filed w nearest county court if you don't stop' doesn't half do the trick IME....

You can claim emotional trauma/distress, theft of your pet and causing health probs and incurring vet bills as a consequence ...

Sounds drastic but damn does it work sharpish... I had weeks of 24/7noise (torment) off a neighbour til i did this ...I should add I had no intention of actually filing a claim, it was last resort before moving .. Good luck

somedayma Fri 09-Dec-11 16:02:48

I'm fucking raging on your behalf!! How dare they?!

Can you only let your cat out when your DP is there - and have him lurk somewhere out of sight so when they open the door to let your cat in, he can suddenly appear and tell them to get their own fucking cat gently remind them they are not to let your cat in?

SirSugar Fri 09-Dec-11 20:13:55

Actually police turned up at their house last night, not sure if it was in relation to my call so will call them back tomorrow ( fig they might be busy friday nights) and get update on the ref number they gave me.

Kept cat in today

SirSugar Fri 09-Dec-11 20:14:55

Cinnabar - I have a lovely video of cat meowing to get out of their property

There is a woman across the road to me with 7 cats. When my little moggy went missing last week the nice man in the paper shop tipped off that this woman had been in, bragging that she'd "taken another stray in". Sure enough, when I banged on her door there he was. Three other local cats have gone missing lately, and two of them were also there! I did speak to the local community officer, and she is known to him (apparently she is an alcoholic and has mental health issues) but he says that there is nothing they can do, as once the cat leaves your property it is pretty much fair game if someone else decides to adopt it! shock

We have resorted to feeding our moggy the odd tin of tuna and a few prawns, in the hopes of bribing him to stay. wink

SirSugar Sat 10-Dec-11 13:03:57

mActually, under law cats are the property of their owner therefore your neighbour is commiting a 'theft' of your property. Helps if you have cat microchipped and it is pedigree as you then have paperwork.

where the law is fuzzy for some is that cats are free to roam and do not fall foul of trespass law. They can wander into someones house, but as soon as the householder knowingly locks them in, they are then commiting a crime.

PresentsRibbonsAndMerrySantas Sat 10-Dec-11 13:22:49

we have a women down the road that has stole our cat, he hardly ever comes home, i have asked her not to feed him [she denies feeding him, but she feeds everyones cat] he follows her everywhere, i have now given up in the past year he has been home less than 10 times, he is ten years old now and i have said very loudly when she has been in her garden, well she wants the cat she can have his vet bills as well, i have tried everything but she won't listen and he won't come home, i can do no more, we have one cat now and i refuse to get any more, because i know she will just do it again, the only reason binka is not there is because she don't really like people and hates strangers.

snuffaluffagus Wed 14-Dec-11 16:53:13

Have you been keeping your cat in this week?

pingu2209 Wed 14-Dec-11 17:13:59

By law there is no such thing as a 'cat owner', there is only a 'cat caretaker'. Seriously, this is not a wind up. Under the law of trespass, cats are unique. They are not owned as they can come and go as they please and are virtually impossible to fence in.

The benefit of this to the 'caretaker' is that the cat lives with you (whilst it pleases him/her) and you get all the pleasure of the cat but if they dig up someones flowers or poo in someone elses garden etc, you are not liable.

However, the downside is that if your cat is run over or hurt accidentally, the driver doesn't have to stop and also is not liable for vet bills etc.

In your case, if someone decides to feed your cat then you can't force them to stop. The cat could opt to live with the other people and they become its caretaker.

PigletJohn Wed 14-Dec-11 17:16:58

where can we see this law?

Didn't we recently see an MPs wife prosecuted for stealing a cat from his new woman friend?

PigletJohn Wed 14-Dec-11 17:26:22

Cristine Hemming cat theft case

PopcornMouseInAReindeerJumper Wed 21-Dec-11 16:33:55

How goes catgate, OP?

candytuft63 Wed 21-Dec-11 16:48:59

I was wondering as well, Pop. My cat has moved (voluntarily) up the road to the big house with trees, huge garden, oh and they own a restaurant. Not daft that cat. Would be hopping furious had she been basically stolen though. The laws surrounding cats and ownership is notoriously a grey area. The new "owners" love her to bits and I felt that she wanted to retire in relative luxury...wish I could !

sashh Thu 22-Dec-11 03:39:11

Sorry I had to laugh at this and in particular the mad camping couple.

Until I recently aquired a stray I used to let neighbour's cat in, well my back door opens onto the garden so she used to let herself in. But I can honestly say I NEVER fed her, I didn't think it was fair to the owners.

Now kitty is in residence kitty from next door is not happy and has told her owners off in no uncertain terms and I feel really bad.

I thought I was just letting her get away from her two daughters who also live next door.

I really don't know what to say, they are not going to stop letting him in. Maybe take some of his food round there so at least he is getting cat food not ham and chicken.

Send the cat to live with someone else for a few days, tell them he is at the vets because he has eaten something he is allergic to and he may die.

Ask the vet about a gastric band?

ContraryMartha Thu 22-Dec-11 06:56:41

Any updates SirSugar?

Rosduk Thu 22-Dec-11 07:26:47

Get one of the cat alarms and stick it in/near their garden! If they are old they wont hear it and they work amazingly well. We had terrible problems with 3 cats pooing in our gardens so we put one out the front and one out the back now they don't even come near!

scrappydoodah Thu 22-Dec-11 08:24:15

My best friend has done this to her neighbour's two cats. Effectively stolen them. Tells me proudly how they prefer her house, and reports every time they stay at hers all nights as well as during the day.

Makes me fume, as she just cannot see how wrong this is. The cats' owner has spoken to her about it as well, but no joy. They sound the same.

CurlyBoy Thu 22-Dec-11 10:35:51

Yet another thread about problems arising from letting your cat out. I am constantly amazed by these and wonder why the hell people let them out to roam free in the first place! Our two cats have never roamed free and are perfectly happy. The go into our back yard when we are out there and come in when we call them. They won't ever be catnapped, run over, poisoned (either intentionally or unintentionally), or kill another animal. This notion that cats MUST be allowed out to run free is ridiculous. There is a reason why they are called domesticated animals!

fergoose Thu 22-Dec-11 10:53:11

Curlyboy - I think as long as you are not putting your cat in danger, ie on a main road, it is a cruelty to keep them indoors. I have always been a cat owner and I would never dream of keeping them cooped up like they are in a cage. It isn't the owner who is at fault here for letting a cat be outdoors, it is neighbours who in my opinion are stealing.

CurlyBoy Thu 22-Dec-11 11:36:05

Fergoose - I agree the neighbours are "stealing" but I absolutely do not believe it is cruel to keep them indoors. My cats are not cooped up, they have the run of all three floors of our house and they get out to the back yard when we are out there. Due to our tall fence they cannot escape. I have had cats most of my life as well and have never let them out. When I lived in the US, no one let their cats out. There are strict animal control laws and the same rules that apply to dog owners apply to cat owners. No leash, no pet out side.

lollopybear Thu 22-Dec-11 12:37:29

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SirSugar Mon 26-Dec-11 14:09:08

Missed this when updates were requested. Haven't let the cat out for three weeks so rang neighbour this morning and said, its been fed, I have to let it out and can i kindly request that they do not let it in, or feed it.

Got drawn into nutty conversation for half an hour going round in circles ( including mum speaking, who gave us the cat ). I was told to keep cat off their property, yet they put food down, look after my cat properly, come round for drinks to discuss, they have never known such behaviour from neighbours, they feed everyones cats - not their problem if my cat eats it, they give him milk, if I was a christian I would respect them, I was intruding upon them and so the madness went on

I really tried to remain calm then lost it and asked him if he could spell narcissistic personality disorder, that his poor dead cat he now wears on his head ( BAD WIG ) and I will call in social services to find out why he locks his wife up as well as my cat.

I did say, don't feed it and I won't bother you

Its not going well

Cat is still indoors

RandomMess Mon 26-Dec-11 14:23:31

shock

Mad as hatters the pair of them!

MissHonkover Mon 26-Dec-11 14:47:58

This thread is fabulous! Sorry OP, I know it's driving you barmy, but it's a very entertaining read. Did it make you feel any better that they're feeding lots of other cats? At least it's not a vendetta against you personally.

Baffled as to how anyone can claim there is an innocent motive behind feeding someone else's cat, surely everyone knows cats don't care where they live or who they live with, they'll go where the food is.

My cat's really annoying, wish one of my neighbours would start feeding her. grin

SirSugar Mon 26-Dec-11 14:58:59

personally, I think he is lying when he says hes feeding all the neighbours cats, I have a clear view of the entrance where they let the cat in and have never seen any other cat hanging around or being let in.

He says he leaves food down, I asked if he left it outside or inside, he wouldn't answer properly but was evavssive and said he leaves it everywhere. I'm going to spray all the pavement and his fence with cat repellent.

Also going to look into small claims, as suggested upthread.

Looks like its going to be a dirty war, he is so fucking unpleasant, yet claimed that we have dragged down the neighbourhood by being unpleasant. I was very reasonable with polite letters and requests at the beginning. oh I forgot, had a christmas card from them for the first time in many years.

DP said we should send one back which I absolutely refused as I know if we go for drinks, or send back cards he is so fucking loony tunes he will see that this is green card to carry on feeding cat and is exactly what he wants

I'm am livid with rage

SirSugar Mon 26-Dec-11 15:01:32

apologies;typos due to RAGE

fergoose Mon 26-Dec-11 17:04:47

wow - I'm not surprised you are hopping mad.

What did he reply when you mentioned narcissism and social services?

SantasStrapon Mon 26-Dec-11 17:16:20

<snort>

What did you say when you mentioned SS and him locking his wife up?

Merran Mon 26-Dec-11 17:41:08

How about keeping the cat in for a month or so and having a run in the garden built, and telling them he had to be put down because of the over eating?

hiddenhome Mon 26-Dec-11 17:45:02

You haven't managed to get an ASBO on them then? sad What did the PCSOs have to say about all this?

They're just bloody thieves that's what.

RandomMess Mon 26-Dec-11 19:29:58

You can put up all sorts of things to keep your cat in your garden, is that worth investigating? It's not cheap but at least you know your cat will never get ran over.

MissHonkover Mon 26-Dec-11 19:31:58

That's even weirder, if he's lied about feeding other cats. And leaving food "everywhere", but you can't see it?

Please tell us what he said about locking up the wife and wearing his deceased cat on his head.

SirSugar Mon 26-Dec-11 20:12:20

he kept saying 'thankyou for your thoughts' and wishing me seasons greetings. He avoids answering any direct questions tells me that 'no,no,no you must listen to me' and then gave me a lecture about his vet niece who has given her verdict on the cat and then tells me I must look afterr it properly.

Talking to him makes my head feel like its going to explode

All I ask is for him to STOP FEEDING THE CAT and he refuses saying its not his fault if my cat comes round eating food they have left out.

my cat will go out straight after breakfast and then wait on their doorstep to be let in. he or the wife let it in shut the door, feed it. I HAVE THE WHOLE LOT ON VIDEO

I said did he fancy sharing my vets bills and he said yes, come round and we will draw up a contract!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!

FirTreeMitTheKrog Mon 26-Dec-11 20:19:22

I don't think this is the first time you've been asked - but why not get a cat run or one of those invisible radio signal fences?

SirSugar Mon 26-Dec-11 20:20:19

considering all options at the moment, cant bear keeping cat in

RandomMess Mon 26-Dec-11 20:25:16

Site seems to be hacked at the moment but try this site when it's back up

www.katzecure.com

Basically you attach poles to the fences/walls and the cats can't get over them to escape the garden <<evil cackle>>

They are definately trying to nick your cat. How awful sad

MissHonkover Mon 26-Dec-11 20:28:32

A contract????!!!!!!!!! Demented!

hiddenhome Mon 26-Dec-11 21:01:51

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect your pet cat to be able to wander around its own neighbourhood. I don't see why you should have to confine it to your garden. These neighbours are being totally unreasonable. Try kidnapping his wife and see how he likes it hmm The cat is your property and their trying to steal it. Worth an ASBO I think. What they are doing is antisocial and they're breaking the law.

VikingWenceslas Mon 26-Dec-11 21:25:41

Not going to be of any help, but we have a batty old neighbour who has fallen in love with one of our cats, and has been feeding him for about a year now. He still comes home from time to time, mostly to eat. I saw the batty lady a couple of days ago and she told me she'd started getting him diet food as he's getting a bit tubby...

hiddenhome Mon 26-Dec-11 22:38:10

My SIL has just told me that one of her neighbours has inherited a cat that left home because its owners got two dogs hmm

ThatVikRinA22 Mon 26-Dec-11 22:55:22

i feel your pain

my neighbours stole my cat. for the last 5 years of his life i never saw him, except when he needed a vet. the dh used to come round to tell me the cat needed a vet.
drove me insane.

i moved. ive now got 2 more (lost both my last ones, one to cancer, one to the neighbour then to cancer)

my moggies are now homegirls. they are allowed out, but they dont go far and ive not moggie loving neighbours to nick em.

SirSugar Tue 13-Mar-12 21:17:09

This still goes on.

I kept cat in for two months over winter and it started to break off its fur down its left flank. So, I wrote another letter to crazy neighbours saying that I was going to let it out again and DO NOT LET IT IN/FEED IT etc.

The fucking people will not listen. So everyday I call the cat to come in and I can see it inside their house meowing to get out. The woman comes, lets out cat, I give hard stare and don't engage with her. However now I sometimes have to bang on their front door, then she lets it out.

The other day cat was in there, then dissappeared, then she came to door stuck fingers up and shouted fuck off and pretended it was across the road by pointing to someone elses house. She went and got it when I said I was going to call police.

This morning I was late for work getting it out of her house.

Why are these people soooo fucking unreasonable

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 13-Mar-12 21:48:37

Could you build some kind if pen around your back door, so the cat can get outside but not out of the garden? They sound bonkers!

Debeez Tue 13-Mar-12 22:14:29

SirSugar may I just applaud you for not smacking either of them in the face.

I had a mental neighbor who didn't understand what a Cornish Rex looked like, assumed we were mistreating him due to his unusual fur and kept putting cheap as shit cat food through the door causing him to leave his runny signatures through the house. We had to involve RSPCA, and threaten with police and solicitors.

She still gives me looks even just the other day she gave me the glare. She was cleaning the windows with no top on like......

Good luck.

ChuffMuffin Tue 13-Mar-12 23:48:52

Is your cat flap lockable two ways? Would it be possible to have it so he can come in but not get back out?

Could you sneak a sonic cat repeller in their garden under a hedge or something? grin

Seriously though I feel so sorry for you, I've been through exactly the same.

doctordwt Wed 14-Mar-12 02:31:51

I think by now I might have accidentally started putting a nice deposit of cat shit through their door/in their garden as a little thankyou for every time they let your cat in.

Ok maybe NOT through their door. But I would certainly think about saving the contents of the litter tray for their garden. And if they say anything, look blank and say what do they expect if they encourage strange cats onto their property.

Failing that, sign them up for every bit of junk mail under the sun.

doctordwt Wed 14-Mar-12 02:37:35

Just read the whole thread (!) - so what happened with the police visit/ safer communities thing?

I'd now go the whole hog and report them again and again - this is antisocial behaviour, could be described as harassment - and clearly the way he treats his wife should be a cause for concern! Forget trying to threaten them with reporting - just report!

RuleBritannia Wed 14-Mar-12 08:03:46

If the neighbour puts food out in various places, isn't that encouraging rats and other undesirable possibilities?

G1nger Wed 14-Mar-12 08:09:24

Just give them the damn cat.

Riddzy Wed 14-Mar-12 08:19:48

G1nger - the OP says in her OP that "they don't want a cat."

No idea what to suggest. But feel your frustration.

OP so sorry this is still going on, I lurked on this thread in December. If it was my cat I don't think I could be as restrained as you. Maybe you just need to keep calling the police everytime they lock your cat in their house, the police will soon get pissed off at having to come sort them out and do something about it.
G1nger why should the OP give them the cat, he's her cat and the cat is clearly unhappy in the neighbours house

DaisyAndConfused Wed 14-Mar-12 09:09:04

This is the most bizarre behaviour from your neighbours, they cannot be right in the head. I would be as angry as you are!

They are obviously getting a kick out of the amount of control they are having over you.

Could you put a big sign outside your house saying "lunatic cat nappers live here" with an arrow pointing at their house?

I really cannot think of any solutions, they seem to enjoy the attention!

morecoffeepleaseholdthecake Wed 14-Mar-12 09:25:50

They sound bonkers,awful! BIL had similar problem where he lived (has since moved) Do they have gnomes in their garden? Bonkers neighbours of BIL had about 100 gnomes in their front garden. The only way to stop these bonkers neighbours from over feeding his cat (and giving it the shits) was to 'kidnap' a gnome everytime they 'kidnapped' the cat. He told neighbours he would do this. They carried on, so he acquired 5 gnomes and sat them in the window of his front porch.they handed cat back and he released the gnomes.grin

SirSugar Wed 14-Mar-12 10:27:37

G1nger, don't quite understand the rationale about giving them the cat. Why should I, its our family cat, was given to us by mum after H died and the DCs love it.

Interestingly, they didn't let it in this morning even though it was waiting patiently on their doorstep for half an hour. It obviously goes for a second breakfast as it has been getting quite fat since I let it back out and I'm feeding it the same amount.

I never got feedback from police team. Considering whether to ring Vunerable Adults team. Woman clearly has mental health issues but harmless and her husband, who is downright nasty, leaves her home all day alone. Hes the one who said they don't want a cat yet she clearly enjoys the company of mine. It seems convenient for him, not her. He drove me, my mother ( who spoke to him over christmas ) and DP into fits of rage with his condescending 'no,no,no you must listen to me' waffle and how we weren't behaving like members of polite society. Its possible her state is a reflection of living with him. I offered to get her a cat - he said no.

G1nger Wed 14-Mar-12 18:27:10

God, the situation's really crazy, isn't it. Is there a case for speaking to Social Services (or a mental health charity) about the wife?

SirSugar Sat 17-Mar-12 19:09:40

Not content with feeding the cat, the neighbours have left a food package on the doorstep with note this afternoon - some weird coleslaw type concoction and roti style bread, with a note saying here is something I made this afternoon and thought you might like some.

personally I don't fancy it

ViviPru Sat 17-Mar-12 19:18:49

OMG SirS I remember this well, I think Vulnerable Adults team sounds like the way forward. Were they just harmless crackpots going about their business, then you could be accused of interfering. But they're actively negatively affecting your life. sad

Dee03 Sat 17-Mar-12 19:37:29

No words of advice...but OMG what a nitemare!!!

HolyCalamityJane Sat 17-Mar-12 19:53:11

Hi Have just dipped into this haven't read the entire thing so sorry if someone has already suggested this.

Can you keep cat in for a week following a day that you know that your cat has had a his second or third meal of the day at crazy neighbours. Then call at neighbours telling them that your cat has severe food poisoning and is at death's door. Put the shit up them dealing them if the cat dies you are going to sue them etc etc. Say "Now will you stop feeding my cat you crazy bastards or will you only be happy when cat dies!!!!"

Too much???

Could you give kitty the cat version of ex lax just before the usual 'shutting it in and letting it meow at door' routine... Nothing gets a cat out of the house quicker than splatty ca turd on the carpet imo.

wellwisher Sun 18-Mar-12 08:26:21

Can't believe this is still going on but thank you for updating! Did you try putting cat repellent (lion poo?) around their garden?

YouChangeWithTheWeather Sun 18-Mar-12 08:47:58

DON'T EAT THE FOOD

grin

I admire your restraint in dealing with this pair. I thin talking to the PCSO and vulnerable adults team might not be such a bad idea.

FannyFifer Sun 18-Mar-12 08:57:21

Just caught up on this, they are mentalists, Lol @ the dodgy food parcel.

Tiago Sun 18-Mar-12 11:02:11

Cats are legally your property. If you have told them that feeding the cat is causing damage to the cat - report them for criminal damage. And go after them for the next vets bill. And report to the RSPCA as an animal cruelty offence.

SirSugar Sun 18-Mar-12 16:40:18

Thanks for replies everyone.

As of this afternoon they have gone out and locked the cat in their house - so I have rung non emergency police and expressed my total fed up with it-ness and requested that they have a word. They have also linked it to previous complaint last year.

Now waiting for them to get get home and let out the cat. absolutely refuse to engage with them and let SNT deal with it.

SirSugar Sun 18-Mar-12 16:46:05

I binned the food

munkysea Sun 18-Mar-12 17:09:22

SirSugar, I am FUMING on your behalf them. How VERY dare they?

They're never going to see reason, and I doubt the police will take it seriously. All you can do is move or hope they'll die soon. Do they look old? ;)

RevoltingPeasant Sun 18-Mar-12 17:18:33

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Want to know what happens when they get back home!!! Leave a note on their door?

FamiliesShareGerms Sun 18-Mar-12 17:28:32

Vets told my SiL to get a tag saying "diabetic - do not feed" for her (non-diabetic) overweight cat. Seemed to stop people offering him titbits.

SirSugar Sun 18-Mar-12 17:49:43

with any luck it will defecate, its still locked in and desperately meaowing at the door

Steffi90 Sun 18-Mar-12 17:49:58

Wow they are complete and utter nutcases.

Get a robotic cat and put that in front of their door and they can let that one in and get their jollies out of that. grin

Some real nutters around aren't there?

MatureUniStudent Sun 18-Mar-12 18:34:52

I'm not a nutter but the cat over the road stalks us. He waits until I open the door a crack to let the children out to walk to school, and he is in. I came home once to find him asleep on my kitchen table having had a go at the chops I had left out for thawing.

I get anxious and nervous now as I am sure he can hear me turn the keys in the front door.....

FannyFifer Sun 18-Mar-12 20:36:08

Did they come home & let cat out?

stubbornstains Sun 18-Mar-12 21:01:20

I can't believe I missed this thread the first time round!
Something very similar happened to me, minus the locking-in, plus them calling the RSPCA on me. Very similar WRT husband talking (shouting) AT me until I slammed the door in his face. It's very very sad because they (well, the wife anyway) were friends, and I just cannot understand what would have led them to behave like that.

It turned out to be a good thing, though, that they called the RSPCA - the officer came round, was totally on my side, and confirmed my belief that they were being utter twunts. Haven't heard a peep out of them since.

So, have you followed up your call to the RSPCA, SirSugar? Will an officer come out and give them a talking to? They could also give you some more detailed advice on how to proceed legally, perhaps?

SirSugar Sun 18-Mar-12 22:32:57

They came back at 6.30 and let out cat. He was sitting in car so I went over and said can I talk to you which he ignored. eventually he started to waffle on about how he had absolutely nothing to say to me as I had insulted his race (they're Asian, same as my late husband, I don't do comments regarding peoples origins ), his hair ( confess I did say his bad wig was probably his poor dead cat; in fit of rage with his utter unreasonableness ).

I said that all I wanted to discuss was the cat being locked in his house all afternoon, he told me I was talking nonsense and got out of car and walked to his house. I told him I had now left it in hands of police and he remarked that my harassment would be taken to police.

I hope he does.

I wrote long another long winded letter re cat, for my benefit not his as it details the ridiculous situation ended it with DO NOT LET MY CAT INTO YOUR HOUSE and DO NOT FEED MY CAT - then posted it.

I now have copies of five reasonable DO NOT letters from me and three crazy rambling WE LOVE THE CAT letters from his wife with details of her extensive education in all of them - and a friendly, here is something I made earlier note that came with the weird food delivery.

I rest my case

Will follow up SNT in a day or two and

Steffi90 Sun 18-Mar-12 22:38:41

Complete nutters.

SirSugar Sun 18-Mar-12 22:40:34

Years ago when we first moved here the wife sent us a christmas card. We have a very unusual asian surname and I think she must have asked the postie what it was then sent us a card addressed to; Mr & Mrs Nesquik.

I do feel sorry for her, He is a real nasty piece of work, he should do the decent thing and get her a cat to keep her company

hiddenhome Sun 18-Mar-12 23:33:11

You obviously care a lot about your cat. I love my cats too. It's a pity really because you could have had the cat infected with rabies, posted it through their door, barricaded them in, then let nature take its course. That's not nice of course, but I can see that it would be tempting.

You need to get the police to take notice. They're harassing you something rotten and DC promised harassment would be taken seriously. Your poor kitty.

MrsBonkers Mon 19-Mar-12 01:29:41

Only just seen this.
Know its not funny for you, but this thread has made me giggle smile
I'm loving the junk mail idea, or maybe sign them up for a few 'no obligation' sales visits ;)
Maybe YouTube is the answer - seemed to work when that woman put that cat in a wheelie bin! All of us on MN could spread it around for you. Wonder if we could make it onto the news?

garlicbutter Mon 19-Mar-12 02:07:46

Oh dear, I stole adopted my cat from neighbours. They did say I could keep her, though! All their pets die. Unlucky hmm

I am seriously not understanding why you don't just let them feed her - but it's escalated so much now, you couldn't just do an about-turn! He'd think he'd won shock

I'm worried about the wife. Hope you manage to get an appropriate authority to look into it.

How about inviting wifey over for Cat Breakfast? In the garden, perhaps, to avoid any risk of her barricading herself into the cupboard under your stairs wink

MidniteScribbler Mon 19-Mar-12 03:10:05

Why don't you just keep your cat in your own house? confused Or is that too obvious?

garlicbutter Mon 19-Mar-12 03:25:00

She does, Midnite, but it started showing stress symptoms (pulling out fur.) Needs its morning run.

Threeprinces Mon 19-Mar-12 08:11:03

Garlicbutter, she doesn't want the neighbour feeding her cat because it's HER cat. Simple and reasonable.

I haven't posted on this thread before but have been following it. Since when is it ok to feed someone else's cat and let it into your house? We had neighbours a while back who tried to do it with one of our cats, she then went missing for several days and I was rather annoyed and my kids were very upset and worried. I took my then 3 yr old round to ask if they'd seen our cat as the children were upset. They still said no (despite me earlier having seen the cat through their window) but she did miraculously come back :-).

I just don't get how anyone could think it's ok to try and lure somebody's family pet away??

OP, I really feel for you as I've been watching with interest and hoping you get it sorted.

SilentBoob Mon 19-Mar-12 08:50:28

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Snowsquonk Mon 19-Mar-12 09:15:40

I really don't think that you are ever going to be able to change their behaviour and I doubt that there is anything local police etc can do to help.

So as the cat needs some outdoor time, I think your only solution would be to build an outdoor pen for the cat so he can get some fresh air, grass etc. There is a house near me which has a large cat run in their garden (they were so sweet and helpful when one of my cats went missing) because they can't bear the thought of a cat being run over or disappearing. The cats do get used to it and you wouldn't have the stress anymore.

SirSugar Mon 19-Mar-12 09:44:10

I don't want them feeding it because its getting fat, because cats teeth rot if they get too much wet food, because I have fed it in the evening before and its then vommed up my food and additional food (multi coloured vom) all over the house as it cannot handle too much at once but doesn't know when to stop eating ( I cannot leave bread cakes or biscuits out as it will eat those - tis a greedy cat ) and because its our cat.

Would rather not confine it to a cat run.

Maybe will wait until he's off at work then deliver a kitten to her. I know she would love it. I would bet money that he has put her in her current mental state. When you try to talk to him he changes the subject, is condescending and refuses to admit any wrongdoing and keeps saying 'no no no you must listen to me' in a slimy hushed tone; it drives me nuts. He has also said ' do you realise who I am' then gone on about his position in society. I admit I have called him a fucking idiot to his face. DP, who is very reasonable got so wound up by him that he almost lost it.

Although the wife shouts obscenities occasionally and sticks fingers up she is not nasty IYSWIM. Shes just lonely and he is the one that said they are 'too old for cats' the mean bastard I'm certain she would love one

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 19-Mar-12 10:02:59

I'm sorry, but he cat is now becoming Ill. Nows the time to be building a cat run. They aren't going to stop. You need to end this before the cat ends up in the vet!

LadyClariceCannockMonty Mon 19-Mar-12 10:06:39

Please don't give them a kitten! She (or both of them) may well genuinely love cats, but from all you've said I wouldn't trust them to look after one properly. To be blunt, I think you giving them a cat would be hugely irresponsible.

They are clearly nutters. Well done for staying largely reasonable (and I LOVE that you told him his toupee was his dead cat grin) and for keeping records of all your exchanges with them. Keep on at the police and the RSPCA. Good luck!

YouChangeWithTheWeather Mon 19-Mar-12 11:11:45

"I did say his bad wig was probably his poor dead cat"

<snigger> I'm so glad you didn't eat the food they gave you grin

SirSugar Tue 27-Mar-12 09:55:38

Update; very nice policeman called last night regarding my complaint a week ago last sunday. He took down all details and decided that although he could call on the neighbours himself he feels it will be much more effective if he involves his sergent as well.

They will pay a visit to neighbours and tell them they must not feed cat or let it in and keep it in, it is an offence ( helps that cat is pedigree and microchipped ) .Should they then continue, it can be taken further. The police will update me when they have made the visit.

Yesterday the woman was throwing food out for cat and calling him.

This feels like progress

Stratters Tue 27-Mar-12 10:01:47

That's really good, hope they put the fear of God into the arrogant twat. And that something is done about him locking his wife in.

sparkle12mar08 Tue 27-Mar-12 10:49:03

You need to be checking with the Community Team every other day to keep yourself in the forefront of their To Do lists. I would be getting seriously fucked off by now and would have considered investigating legal action. People are not allowed to behave this way and you need to put a stop to it for the sake of your cat. Have you got legal cover on your house insurance? Do you know a friendly solicitor? Because they are harrassing you and you have got to take some concrete action.

GingerBlondecat Sat 19-May-12 15:31:29

Zombie Thread Resurection lol. grin

Is there an Update to this ?

<3

Debeez Sat 19-May-12 15:37:12

Ah Gingerblondecat I thought there was an actual update! I got so excited when I saw this back.

<awaits update>

ragged Sat 19-May-12 15:59:08

I can't believe I missed all this. Wonder if OP ever got her neighbour a kitten?

idontbelieveanymore Sat 19-May-12 16:39:21

What is happening?? We need an update!!

Maryz Sat 19-May-12 16:57:49

I have just read this entire thread and only now realised how old it was blush. I also have mad neighbours who feed my cats revolting stuff that looks like offal and bones when it is (inevitably) vomited up.

Not helped by the fact that one of my cats is extremely fat and the other is allergic to everything, so I wish the neighbours would mind their own business.

TidyDancer Sat 19-May-12 16:57:50

Argh! I got all excited too, thinking something had happened (for the good!).

Anything for us, SirSugar?

Riversidegirl Sat 19-May-12 17:46:08

She shudda bought a panther or a cheeta and sent that round for dinner LOL Great thread

CeliaFate Sat 19-May-12 17:56:53

This is completely bizarre but compelling.
What happened next?

Dropdeadfred Sat 19-May-12 18:02:41

Update???

ragged Sat 19-May-12 18:16:48

I was thinking OP should teach her cat to selective spray whilst at the neighbours (if only it were that easy!)

i have read whole thread.

enthralled.

i think you should shove cute kitten outside her back door in box with soft blanket and a big sign 'please will you be my mummy?'.

end of problem.

oooohhhhyes Sat 19-May-12 22:42:02

Any update? This is gripping!

I had similar with neighbour and cat who was on poncy diet for tummy condition; I had to get letter from vet confirming he couldn't eat anything except special diet. It didn't work though and it was a very stressfull and infuriating situation.

NicNocJnr Sun 20-May-12 03:58:20

What on earth?

I've heard some humdingers in my time in practice but I've never heard of anyone with such dedication to asshattery!!

Not that it should come down to it but because they are obviously so far past sanity they couldn't poke it with a long pole is there any way you can focus on your cat? Time and prcticality wise it may well be a right pita but it has worked on 2 occassions that I know of for sure after I advised it...not when the cats were this into the habit though. And it only works if you can reach over/through a fence.

Nudge up your morning routine, let the cat out, when cat goes to neighbours step/door immediately squirt with water. Repeat until cat removes self from step. Generally advised starting on a weekend/holiday day so could keep half an eye and get cat everytime they went to the place. Then ensure you repeat it every morning o the cat gets the hint. I know one client set up a sprinkler head which impressed me with it's inventiveness but I don't know if you are technically allowed...I don't think so. Also start food aversion with the things they might feed it - so hide foul tasting stuff in chicken and ham or leave chicken/ham/other out and squirt cat when he goes for it. Not very fair but obesity, diabetes, urinary and kidney problems and of course the fact he is actually yours may mean short term unfairness is better.

it's really not ideal as a solution and again lays the work at your door but he just sounds such a piece of work to get involved with I'm actually concerned on your behalf. He locks his poor wife in the house and is a pompous, unpleasant and rude man. God knows what obstructiveness he'll get it in to his head to try and throw at you. I hope it's all resolved now though hmm

SirSugar Sun 20-May-12 09:33:01

At my wits end.

Police called on them a few weeks ago, they said they would no longer feed cat which is all bollocks as last night I had to ring them to put cat out so I could get it in and go to bed. When it came in it vommed a huge amount of chopped chicken all over the house.

These people are just fucking amazing. If I ring up now to ask them to let out cat ( which I have to do regularly) if he answers he says 'who are you?'.

I've spoken to my solicitor about legal route to stop these unreasonable people, VV expensive.

I've stopped letting cat out in morning as they keep it in until after I've gone to work so I can't get it back in, so I let it out in evening after feeding it then they go and feed it again.

I HATE THEM, I HATE THEM

Maryz Sun 20-May-12 09:39:20

I can't believe this is still going on shock. It makes my neighbours look reasonable - they only feed, they don't let my cats in. I still hate it though, as I regularly get the puking hmm.

Have you thought about making life really unpleasant whenever they let your cat it - some very loud noise outside the house, or putting your car across their gate, or something like that?

It does sound as though the woman has mh issues, so she may not even understand what she is doing sad. He on the other hand is a shit.

One final suggestion ( a bit tongue in cheek) - could you make your cat in some way unattractive to have in the house? Maybe a few mornings in a row spray him with some sort of really revolting smell (essence of fox poo for example).

SirSugar Sun 20-May-12 09:42:06

I thought about posting the vom through their letter box last night with a note attached - heres your chicken back

IvanaHumpalot Sun 20-May-12 09:50:11

Could your vet advise/send a letter to your neighbour? Especially as your puss is gaining weight. My overweight mog has stretched 2 tendons (she's 'plump' and prob jumped and landed badly) which means she limps and will proberbly will have ongoing mobility problems and arthritis. Could your vet cc in your local RSPCA officer?

I'm afraid as much as you don't want to build a run, I think realistically this is your only option. Legal fees soon mount up and who's to say they would pay any attention to a solicitor's letter. You may get a judgement in your favour but how would it be enforced if they were to break it? If they were to break it, you would have to start the ball rolling again - £££.

Try the vet, it's cheaper than a solicitor. Does yours weigh when you do your annual jabs etc... Is there a record of significant weight gain, other health issues. I think the most you could hope for is to petition for contributions to vet fees if weight/health related.

Maryz Sun 20-May-12 09:57:31

You know, that might not be a bad idea - run it by the police first and see whether you could get into trouble.

Maybe write them a letter - if you give my cat any more food I will be returning it to you grin

Debeez Sun 20-May-12 09:58:08

Thank you for the update SirSugar, yes we're a nosy lot but we do think of you and how you're getting on. grin

We used the RSPCA for the old bat across the road who kept posting chicken through the door. (May have mentioned this earlier.) And they threatened her with animal cruelty (she was making our cat ill.).

I understand the woman has MH issues but the man doesn't, makes me so cross as he should know better. I think you've been more than fair and nice about the whole thing and I'm sorry this is still going on for you. sad

Dropdeadfred Sun 20-May-12 10:04:55

I would put my cat on a lead and walk it past their house!!! And yes I would build a cat run too sadly as these people are not going to change

oooohhhhyes Sun 20-May-12 10:17:45

The aversion therapy suggested up post sounds good - intense but possibly effective?

oooohhhhyes Sun 20-May-12 10:21:24

but yes, cat run is probably the way to go. We had one when we had mad neighbour in London who claimed our cat was haunting her and the only way to stop him constantly being in her flat (she was like magnet for him because she didn't like him!!) was to build a run on our terrace. The cats were fine with it although after a year or so we took it down and the cat seemed to have forgotten loopy lou down the way and left her alone. It broke the habit for the cat.

flynn80 Sun 20-May-12 10:26:20

Ive not read this whole thread in a while so dont know if its been suggested but my friend paid to have cat nets put on her walls, its equivalent to a cat run except they are just nets that are on the top of the walls or fences to stop cats jumping up on them. she has 4 and lives on a busy main road and it has certainly worked for her.

Swatchdog Sun 20-May-12 10:40:22

Given that the police said it could go further if they ignore warnings why don't you call them and say that their words have gone unneeded, citing the examples you have here. Its not a trivial matter as its clearly causing you distress so they need to take it seriously. And also maybe get the RSPCA involved.

GateGipsy Sun 20-May-12 10:46:40

startail - can I ask does your sil feed the cat meat at all? I ask because cats aren't like dogs - they are obligatory meat eaters. Without meat in their diet they do get ill, and they won't live as long. They need some of the enzymes you can only get in meat for their own digestive system.

SirSugar Sun 20-May-12 13:14:06

Cat has been over there this morning again, his fur stinks of a fry up. they have chucked him out as they go out on sundays. maybe should use the time to spray their property with cat repellant - what is best brand?

oooohhhhyes Sun 20-May-12 13:42:44

don't know but wishing you luck! Also the cat proof netting sounds good?

Perhaps you could observe polite society and give them a nice potted plant as a peace offering?

They sound truly barmy. I hope you managed to get it sorted out.

PurpleRayne Sun 20-May-12 14:08:47

Invest a fraction of the money that a solicitor would cost you in a super duper cat run. It's the only way to keep your cat safe. You cannot reason with such people. They are not amenable to rational or helpful discussion. Legal or police intervention won't faze them. This situation will escalate until something disastrous happens.

lashingsofbingeinghere Sun 20-May-12 16:54:03

I agree with PurpleRayne. OP, you are never going to make these people see sense. I doubt they will even respond to legal threats - they don't seem to be bothered that the police have visited them, and they probably are convinced in their own minds that you are wrong and they are right. In a perverse way they may even be enjoying the drama.

The only answer is to get a cat run. It will save your sanity and your precious time. And surely worth it just to know you have thwarted their evil cat-feeding ways.

NicNocJnr Mon 21-May-12 06:41:09

Agree about cat run if aversion is just not practical.

Thing is of the really successful cat repellant sprays you would probably find yourself in trouble using them on someone else's property - he sounds just the sort to make a big thing of it too.

What an utter bastard. People can be so totally baffling. Although she's currently being as bad as him I can't help feeling sorry for his wife.
I'm sorry you're having to deal with such bumholes and agree hw prbably is enjoying all the attention as it's giving him plenty of opportunity to wax lyrical about his views.

Riversidegirl Mon 21-May-12 22:19:15

Dye the cat a different colour or paint it with patterns (Pimp my cat). Perhaps they wont recognise it so wont let it in? grin

https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=639&q=painted+cat&gbv=2&oq=painted+cat&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.3..0l10.2267.6566.0.8160.11.10.0.1.1.0.116.961.7j3.10.0...0.0.R02SJhgiovQ

Riversidegirl Mon 21-May-12 22:21:00

Sorry...above link wont work but google, images, painted cats.

Fireandashes Mon 21-May-12 22:50:11

I know you said you'd prefer not to use a cat run, but it does sound like the only option. You know they're not going to change, so you know that by letting the cat out in his usual routine is going to result in him being overfed, locked in and become unwell. Kinder on him and kinder on your blood pressure to bow to the inevitable and put some kind of net roof on the garden.

GoPoldark Mon 21-May-12 22:55:35

GO STRAIGHT BACK TO THE POLICE.

Go back now, because it's so soon after they came out and spoke to them, the police will realise that this is really not normal.

The police told them it could be taken further if they continued to imprison your cat - you must get them back onto them.

And I would be contacting social services.

TwoIfBySea Mon 21-May-12 23:10:38

One of my friends lost one of her cats to a batty neighbour. Neighbour kept feeding cat, cat decided it would rather live with lonely old woman than in house with other cat and children. My friend is upset but neighbour is particularly obnoxious so all we can do is plan how to win her (the cat not the neighbour) back.

None of my three would move, although one used to like to visit a neighbour where we used to stay the neighbour came over to make sure it was ok to let him in (she has cats too) and we became friends.

When I was little one of our neighbour's cats left home when she became pregnant. Just up and left, never returned, again choosing to stay with old woman rather than kids.

entropygirl Mon 21-May-12 23:27:18

fecking hell...I agree with whoever said get the police back...

They just cannot be allowed to get away with this weird behaviour!

SirSugar Sat 03-Nov-12 09:57:02

Would you believe it, these fucking people carry on regardless - STILL.

Last night I was calling the cat over several hours, and I saw them throw him out of their house at 11.30. I rang immediately and said this has to stop, the crazy old bat shouted 'shut up' and slammed the phone down.

I go through periods where I have to just ignore it but then it really gets to me again and so it goes on.

I fucking hate them, why, why, why would you continue to feed someone elses cat when they have REPEATEDLY asked you not to, even the police have paid them a visit.

sorely tempted to spray paint their front door with message - DO NOT FEED THE CAT. Let them call police and have it out.

cozietoesie Sat 03-Nov-12 10:01:26

I was wondering what had happened. I'm at a loss as to what to suggest though - you've done most everything, I think. sad

LadyFlumpalot Sat 03-Nov-12 10:09:32

Send the cat off with some friends or relatives for a fortnight. When they come round asking where he is, tell them that the cat has died because of all the crap food they have fed him. Slam the door in their face.

When the cat comes back, just don't say anything, and then when they approach you about the miraculously alive cat, look at them all confused and insist it's dead.

Hopefully they will get so freaked out by the "ghost" cat that they will never allow it in again!

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 03-Nov-12 10:12:13

Could you build a cat run in the garden? We did this when we had the persians.

They sound deranged tbh and I do feel very sorry for the situation you're in here.

Maybe they will get ill and need to go into a home. Not a nice thing to say but they dont sound right.

I see other peoples cats but I dont kidnap them.

It is a form of harrassment really isnt it?

I am so with you on this, I have just given up tbh, my nneighbour has my cats, when we challenge her she brings them nack a couple of times at tnight and then we dont see them again for months, I hate it, makes me so angry. I love my cats and she has stolen them and I dont even know what to do.

BeatTheClock Sat 03-Nov-12 10:19:28

shock Blimey. This has been going on for ages. I would be as furious as you SirS.

Apologies I've only skimmed the thread. Will the police follow this up? Surely this is anti social behaviour on their part and the police should be dealing with it accordingly. Could your vet strengthen the case officially regarding overfeeding? Maybe a letter.

BeatTheClock Sat 03-Nov-12 10:24:53

Our cats are adored. If anyone was enticing them away persistantly I'd not hesitate to wheel over my three distressed children and demand an explanation. Let them see the upset their 'kindness' is causing and justify to them.

blueballoon79 Sat 03-Nov-12 10:37:39

I can't understand why people do this. Our cat went missing for two weeks this year.

I put posters up everywhere and my 3 year old daughter and me went out every evening calling for him.

She in particular was absolutely devastated and I had to tell her that I thought he must have been hit by a car and that he wasn't coming back.

Then one Sunday I received a phone call from a man who tipped me off that his next door neighbour had a cat matching the description on the posters in her garden.

I went round and it WAS our cat. She'd taken him for her two children, renamed him and obviously ignored all of the posters that I'd put up (one of them being right outside her house!) She even had the audacity to ask if she could come and visit him!

SolidGoldYESBROKEMYSPACEBAR Sat 03-Nov-12 10:38:47

I just read whole thread, poor you! ALl I can suggest is that you call the police every single time. It sounds like anti social behaviour and harassment, if they keep on breaching an ASBO they could get fined or go to prison.

BeatTheClock Sat 03-Nov-12 11:02:54

I am amazed! This doesn't appear to be that uncommon reading other similar stories here. Good grief how could anyone be so calculating? To go to so much effort and cause so much upset when there are thousands of homeless cats who really do need a home. Why not get one of those?hmm

cozietoesie Sat 03-Nov-12 11:05:11

I think it's fair to say that they're unhinged BeatTheClock. I think it's miraculous that the OP has taken neither to drink nor a weapon!

Maryz Sat 03-Nov-12 11:13:37

I can't believe this is still going on. It has that awful fascination of a slow-motion car crash.

I can't see you managing to ever sort it, sadly. It will only end when either the cat or the neighbours die.

Though I do like the suggestions of rolling it in fox poo or feeding it crap so it will puke on them.

I think you have to up the ante. Go and press on their door bell and keep pushing it until they put the cat out. Every time. See if you can break them.

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 03-Nov-12 11:23:13

Flu seasons coming up.....

5madthings Sat 03-Nov-12 11:38:08

omg i have just read the whole thread and am amazed! who do they think they are. i have no suggestions but i am incredulous that people would behave like this.

fwiw there are two cats that go in a little side house that is attached to our house, well its a little room we have tumble dryer etc in that we can only access by going into our garden. anyway i do not put foid down but as i know the cats go in there i just leave a window open so they can get out whenever, i think they like the warmth from the tumbledryer but if their owner said they didnt want them in there i would make sure they couldnt get in.

Icanhasnickname Sat 03-Nov-12 12:24:42

sirsugar Why not keep the cat in, but call them 4 or five times a day asking where it is. You have enough of a paper trail to justify these calls, so wont be harrassing them (as it will be the actions of a reasonable person, ie..you looking for cat they have history if keeping). Then you can call at any time you feel will disturb them the most. And maybe let cat out on sundays (did you say they go out on sundays???)
Hell, maybe buy an autodialler with a pre-set message on it. Set it to call them every half and hour.

SirSugar Sat 03-Nov-12 13:12:57

Right, I'm considering a variety of tactics.

The first thing I'm going to do is compose one last letter; I have photocopied some information about the law regarding cats where it states that the cat is property of the owner and it is considered theft if you take a cat. Also causing injury to someones elses cat is unlawful.

I am then going to embark upon a civil claim against them, warn them of this and my intention to call on them, by telephone then in person EVERY time I cannot get my cat in.

At this time of year my cat will only go out for five minutes, then comes back, if they let it in It will stay there until it needs loo or they chuck it out. Often I will let it out and it goes straight to their house and meaows at their door to be let in.

In the summer I noticed something had changed and the cat didn't go there so much - I found out that the woman had her sons cat for several weeks so wasn't letting mine in; however I did catch her one morning throwing bits of chicken out for mine.

I am so fed up with their outrageous disregard, I'm going to make myself a right fucking nuisance.I already have a significant paper trail and community police report, and I will make one further call to the PCSO as I begin this campaign to stop these fucking idiots.

I did try keeping cat in, it pulled its fur.
I refuse to build a cat run, I wouldn't have a problem if these people stopped
I do not wish to rehome cat

I will try to post piccy of cat on my profile

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 03-Nov-12 13:17:43

Amazon do electric cat fences.

Be careful you don't get accused of harassment by going round and file a civil case for damages due to distress when cat missing etc. Judges aren't pleasant people to be in front of and you neighbours sound mad enough to try and take one on.

whois Sat 03-Nov-12 15:19:15

Wow. Just wow.

What utter bat shit crazy horrible neighbours. Why don't they just get their own cat????

You have my sympathies OP.

Some of our family friends ha their cat stolen by old crazy neighbours. Oil fiends had to move away for work and the old couple kept the cat inside and wouldn't give it back!!

GhostShip Sat 03-Nov-12 15:59:08

Oh my god.

OP, you have my deepest respect for not attacking them. I couldn't cope with the blatant disreguard of you, and the idiocy from these people. I would have put the fear of god into them by now.

I'd put a video camera up that shows them letting it in, and them subsequently letting it out.

This really needs to stop, its not fair at all

hiddenhome Sat 03-Nov-12 16:06:35

I'm so sorry this is still going on OP sad I'd go crazy if anyone tried to entice my kitties away. I really hope you manage to sort something out. I can't imagine why these people are doing this.

Could you possibly spray something that cats hate outside their door? A repellent or something?

JustFabulous Sat 03-Nov-12 16:16:31

Call police every time they take your cat. Hopefully the police will get tough as they have enough to do without dealing with daft cat stealers.

Tailtwister Sat 03-Nov-12 16:19:14

This is one of the most bizarre things I've read on here. This situation would probably drive me so crazy I would have to move. I really feel for you.

mignonette Sat 03-Nov-12 16:22:45

Contact your local newspaper- they may run a story.....

Phone them really late at night and really early in the morning....

Viviennemary Sat 03-Nov-12 16:26:24

YANBU. Say you have taken it to the vet as it hasn't been too well recently. And he advised special food. Or food strictly twice a day only. Honestly, some people!!

myfirstkitchen Sat 03-Nov-12 16:37:48

wtf?! that would drive me crazy! Yes saves on food bills but sounds like they are keeping your cat for hours and spoiling him so that he wont leave. they don't want a cat. they want YOUR cat! If your cats only out for 15 mins get a lead?! my friend had his cat out on a lead once a day as too scared to let him out as his last cat was ran over sad

CouthyMowEatingBraiiiiinz Sat 03-Nov-12 16:54:39

Fucking hell, I would be deranged with anger tbh.

I would call the non emergency 101 police number each and EVERY time they won't let the cat out. I would do the civil court thing too.

They don't want just any cat, they want YOUR cat, and unless you fight fire with fire, they will get what they want.

I would go batshit mental at them, but that's just me. I would fight narcissictic and mental with righteous indignation and complete batshit craziness!

VivaLeBeaver Sat 03-Nov-12 17:08:31

I now you don't want the cat in their House but I'd be tempted to fit a cat flap in their back door next time they go out. At least that way your cat can get out when it wants to.

Jux Sat 03-Nov-12 17:08:36

This is ridiculous. I would be going fffing mental if this were happening to one of mine, and mine are just mogs.

Have you sent them a solicitor's letter? One letter is not too expensive and sometimes is enough. We had a problem with an old lady once when I was a child - not as bad a problem as this, but she had enough cheek to take our cat to the vet and then ask us for the money it cost her (she also asked for money to cover the cost of food!). Dad got his solicitor to write to her, and she stopped. Mind you, that was many years ago.

You could do something really disruptive though. Call ss and talk to their vulnerable adult team. It sounds like this wife needs help anyway, so you might end up doing her a favour and seriously pissingnim off. Won't effect the cat situation though. sad

You could rig up a cctv camera on your property pointing at theirs. I know you have loads of evidence but more is always good.

Would they be shamed if you gave the story to the local paper, with pics of him letting the cat in, the cat miaowing to get out and him letting the cat out?

Hope the legal route works. Looks like nothing much else will.

cozietoesie Sat 03-Nov-12 17:22:04

Trouble is, Jux - if you're going the legal route you have to have something in the bag to back it up if necessary. These people sound deranged and not necessarily the sort to care two hoots about a lawyer's letter. Except to reinforce their paranoia if they have any.

I would be stumped. Mind you, if I was the OP my family would have..... taken action ........ long before now. The OP is a flipping saint.

Jux Sat 03-Nov-12 17:58:16

Yes, I have friends who might have taken it upon themselves to do something inventive but very very off-putting

Jux Sat 03-Nov-12 18:05:36

I'm thinking along the lines of marking territory. When our flat was invaded by a strange male cat who terrorised our two elderly females, dh went out (darkest night) and peed on the doorstep and round about where the cat came into the garden etc. Apparently the male hormones are detectable to animals and this was enough to put the cat off.

DH hates me telling people that, btw. He is not proud of it, but it did work.

OP, you will have to find a man whom your cat hates (or detects as a stranger) and get him to pee around your neighbour's doorstep and grounds periodically. Your cat will think that there is a rogue male around and keep away from them, like he did when they had their son's (?) cat.

Maybe you could make friends with one of the local Saturday night blokes and give him a tenner a time?

<Jux wonders how serious she is; concludes that, acsherly, she is, quite>

TheCunnyFuntWearingAPoppy Sat 03-Nov-12 18:44:17

Maybe get some lion poo and throw it liberally around their garden?

Cynner Sat 03-Nov-12 18:49:24

I would wee round their hedge for a tenner..

missmalteser Sat 03-Nov-12 18:51:00

You really need to do the dead cat thing, just so you can report back to us what happens!

SirSugar Sat 03-Nov-12 19:35:13

I've just got in from work, so thanks everyone for your support.

I'm going to read over everything tomorrow, including what I have said here and write the final letter including copies of all correspondence I have sent them previously and police visit numbers dates etc.

It started two years ago.

Kept cat in today, it didn't want to go out when I came home as it was hungry, since being fed its desperate to go (straight across to their house).Keeping it in anyway, too many fireworks going off outside.

Rasher38 Tue 13-Nov-12 17:09:29

Had the same issue with neighbours - keep themselves to themselves, only say hello if I said it first, speed up to get in the house if they see me coming to avoid any unnecessary friendliness BUT they liked my cat. China saucers left outside with the expensive food, I could even hear them talking to my cat when they came home from work !! (Darn sight friendlier to him that any of the rest of us). Anyway I finally went round - caught him with his trousers down (literally) he'd just got in the shower and thought I was his daughter so came running to the door in a hand towel. I offered to come back but he was so embarrassed at getting it wrong he wanted me to tell him my request - so pointed out the tabby darling was getting on the porky side, will happily eat two dinners one after another so just want to know if they are feeding him - which meals are they covering? He sheppishly admitted it was now again, then blamed his daughter as they used to have cats but cant commit to one now, blah blah - ! I could see they wanted some furry lovin and when I couldnt have cats I had serious cat envy and could be regularly found hovering round a friendly mog on someones wall. So I decided cat share was good, halved the food bills - they've since moved away and my relationship with the tabby one is no lesser - he still ignores me when I dont have what he wants and sits at the bottom of the bed rather than be in cuddle range. He still knows where home is though !

OldMumsy Tue 13-Nov-12 20:29:53

Load the cat up with Vaseline, they love it, but it goes straight through with spectacular results! Small amounts are good for getting hairballs to pass but too much and shock

Brodicea Tue 13-Nov-12 20:43:17

Ooo this riles me. Had a similar scenario with a neighbour who exclaimed 'oh, so he is loved' then turned her back on me when I tried to tell her he was OUR cat. Grr, It was all I could do to stop myself pulling out her ash-blonde upper-middle bob.
My housemates thought I was losing it because I wrote a strongly worded letter. It still makes me angry.

freerangeeggs Tue 13-Nov-12 21:30:04

Buy one of those mosquito noise things and hide it n their garden somewhere. Or kids will be able to tell you if it's run out if battery.

freerangeeggs Tue 13-Nov-12 21:31:17

Or put something really smelly on our cat, so that when they touch it they get smelly too!

SantasStrapOn Tue 13-Nov-12 21:42:58

What about cat proofing your garden? I've seen someone cat proof theirs by fixing poles on the top of their fences all the way round. They put lengths of plastic pipe round the poles so the pipe span round when the cat put it's paws on it.

Sounds hideous, but at least you'd know you could let the cat out into your garden, and it wouldn't be able to get out. sad

meboo Tue 13-Nov-12 22:34:29

This happened with my neighbour. I asked at christmas that they stop feeding the cat as he was being ill and needed special vet food, the neighbour still didn't stop feeding my cat. Then my cat went missing for 6 days and the neighbours were asking where the cat was. I found the cat in the local vets, he had been run over, thankfully he was not too badly hurt. So when the neighbour came and asked again i explained what had happened and asked them to contribute to the vets fees. Strangely enough they have stopped feeding my cat!!!! oh and didn't pay anything towards the vets fee. smile

Probably a crazy idea...but could you get them a cat of their own and then feed it and shut it in your house Maybe they would then lose interest in yours? Obviously you'd have to get their permission first, but might be better in the long run? confused

BertieBotts Tue 13-Nov-12 22:40:52

You have my sympathy OP.

I have given up and let them have the damn cat. (I still feed him when he comes here, if he's really hungry)

Now he (the cat, not the neighbour grin) pisses in my house every chance it gets to mark it's territory sad

DayShiftDoris Tue 13-Nov-12 22:47:14

OMG this is awful.

I am with whoever said to ring 101 every time and perhaps start proceedings in the meantime. Also start filming again.

My cat went missing for 8 weeks last year after I had thought she was possibly being fed elsewhere. I think she was locked in and came home the moment they thought it was safe to let her out. She doesnt roam as much now plus I got her a collar that said 'DO NOT FEED'

I have no idea who did it but it was enough to stop it because THAT is what reasonable, normal people do..

Hope this gets resolved... poor cat and you!

ExitPursuedByABrrrrrrr Tue 13-Nov-12 23:05:11

Poor you and poor puss. Your neighbours sound horrendous.

shock just been given a link to this. barmey!

is it still going on?

Pixieonthemoor Mon 04-Mar-13 17:25:49

Aaargh! I got all excited when I saw this thread pop up again but there's no update.

How is it going OP? Have you started those civil court proceedings? Really hoping you have managed to find some resolution.

PenguinBear Mon 04-Mar-13 18:20:16

Just read the whole thread... These people Sound crazy confused

Uppermid Mon 04-Mar-13 21:37:53

Some people are unbelievable.

What do you say when he says no no no you must listen to me?

CheerfulYank Tue 05-Mar-13 04:35:50

Insane!

I know you don't want to but I probably would build a vat run. sad

Sazzle41 Tue 05-Mar-13 13:53:13

This sounds like they are doing it as either they know it gets on your nerves and/or its more about a power/control battle. You might find threatening them with Small Claims Court re any vet bills incurred re his weight concentrates their mind. (Only as a threat mind). Losing £ tends to make pettiness disappear with weirdo neighbours I find. Used this as last resort twice now with mad neighbours and both times all probs ceased same day..

SirSugar Mon 25-Mar-13 17:48:21

There is no happy ending to this, The cat went 'missing' over three weeks ago. The neighbours haven't got him.

I know I should have kept him indoors, he was a beautiful Birman; but when I tried that for a month he pulled and ripped fur all down his flank. Cat proffing my garden was not an option due to the size of it. And now he's gone, I'm pretty certain he's been stolen.

I've done everything I should do under the circumstances and we all miss him terribly sad sad sad

PeachActiviaMinge Mon 25-Mar-13 17:52:39

Sir I am so so sorry to hear about this sad What a horrible thing for you and your cat to have had to go through.

SirSugar Mon 25-Mar-13 17:52:55

He always sat on windowsills looking outside, I've driven round and round looking at peoples houses as well

SirSugar Mon 25-Mar-13 18:01:20

I've put a photo of him on my profile (vain hope that anyone has seen him)

SirSugar Mon 25-Mar-13 18:09:39

I'm in south London

thebody Mon 25-Mar-13 18:15:02

So sorry. Very upsetting for you all.

MorelloKiss Mon 25-Mar-13 18:16:07

Hi, sorry to ask a dumb question (i am new) but how do I view your profile?

I am in East London so I doubt I can help, but I'd be devastated if mine went missing

SirSugar Mon 25-Mar-13 18:18:27

click on my name then it will take you to profile page then a link to my photos

MorelloKiss Mon 25-Mar-13 18:21:11

Oh, he is beautiful

flowers

SirSugar Mon 25-Mar-13 18:22:25

What made me laugh was when the neighbours first approached me about him, they thought he was a stray hmm

Ohhhh SirSugar - I hope he turns up soon - it's like losing a member of the family - well, it is losing a ,ember of the family. sad

DrHolmes Mon 25-Mar-13 19:40:06

SIR stay positive. My aunty had a cat that went missing for a month then turned up again. Same with a friends cat. So he may turn up. What a beautiful cat. I can't believe the way your neighbours acted.

Hopefully he will be back soon.

dipitydoyou Mon 25-Mar-13 19:56:08

SirSugar I have just read the whole thread. They sound crazy. Seriously bat shit crazy.

I'm so sorry about your cat he is beautiful. Have you reported it to the police? I know it might sound silly but going by your neighbours quite frankly mental behaviour in the past is it possible they have anything to do with him going missing? They sound loopy enough to have him locked in the house.

So sorry if that's already been suggested i've just no further advice sad

SirSugar Mon 25-Mar-13 20:34:47

They definately haven't got him I've carried out full checks with them.

I'm not going to give up hope, I spend some time everyday scouring sites with cats for sale, and drive different routes all the time.

He was a great escape cat, a real difficult cat to keep indoors, he is chipped so if he is found and taken in I can be contacted.

The worse thing is not knowing whats happened to him. i have heard of cats that get returned months later.

He didn't like being picked up and wouldn't sit on your lap only next to you, but he was affectionate.

He liked other cats and bought a couple round to see us from time to time; his big ginger tom friend turned up the other night looking for him.

dipitydoyou Mon 25-Mar-13 22:45:48

I'm so sorry sad we have a cat and I know i'd be devastated if anything happened to her so my heart goes out to you. There has been a cat in our village that went missing at new year, posters everywhere -and it simply strolled into it's kitchen last week as if nothing had happened! So don't give up hope.

I think your neighbours are still bat shit crazy and I hope they are ashamed that they have spent the past two years making your life difficult regarding your lovely cat.

I'd still report them as a 'concerned neighbour' regarding the locking in thing- what a horrible little man he sounds.

hiddenhome Mon 25-Mar-13 22:53:14

Oh, no, I was just wondering about your situation the other day. I'm so sorry to hear that he's gone missing sad I really hope he turns up.

PurpleRayne Tue 26-Mar-13 13:23:15

You could post a photo and details on facebook - it would get shared very quickly.

SirSugar Sat 30-Mar-13 18:30:16

OMG he's home, after one month, He was three streets away, a bit grubby and fatter than when he disappeared.

My poster was seen by a family who called me.

Happiness x

Binkybix Sat 30-Mar-13 18:36:07

Such good news!

YouTheCat Sat 30-Mar-13 18:39:58

Brilliant!

pinkstinks Sat 30-Mar-13 18:57:26

So pleased he is home where he belongs smile

LetMeAtTheWine Sat 30-Mar-13 19:01:42

Fantastic! Now, lock him up. wink

Hmmkay Sat 30-Mar-13 19:01:54

Wow, amazing news! Glad he is back. I hope your neighbour doesn't notice he is back for a while - I'm sure you won't be mentioning his return to them!

Ohhh that is amazing news - you must be over the moon!!

Have lots of some wine to celebrate! smile

SirSugar Sat 30-Mar-13 19:03:23

He won't be going out for a while.

Having wine now x

CookieLady Sat 30-Mar-13 19:11:56

So glad you've got him back. smile

Such good news. Tie the little bugger to the sofa and don't let him out of your sight ever again.

So happy for you wine

coughingbean Sat 30-Mar-13 19:28:23

Yay!!!

AbyCat Sat 30-Mar-13 19:31:10

Aw, thats fabulous news, I was only wondering the other day if you'd found him. So pleased you have him safely home again.

Lovethesea Sat 30-Mar-13 20:04:59

So pleased he is safe and well. I still think letting him explore with the wind, sun and rain in his beautiful coat is worth the risk.

I've lost cats to the road and I've had cats that disappeared years ago and it's awful, but IMHO I see the joy mine get in being outside so I have to risk the loss so they can live to the full. It's not like they worry about it living in the moment as they do!

MsTakenidentity Sat 30-Mar-13 21:21:51

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MsTakenidentity Sat 30-Mar-13 21:23:04

Above was supposed to be Kitty text emotion but hopefully YKWIM. Great news flowers

hiddenhome Sat 30-Mar-13 22:20:09

Glad he's home, what a relief for you smile

PurpleRayne Sat 30-Mar-13 22:31:34

:-))) Hooray!

BreatheandFlyAway Sat 30-Mar-13 22:53:55

smile was watching this thread with concern and am very glad you have your dcat back wine

Cuddlydragon Sat 30-Mar-13 22:59:09

grin very good news, really pleased for you.

Hooray for you grin

BTW, re detention of the cat by the awful neighbours - couldn't you bring an action in the small claims court without paying using a lawyer? Apologies if this has already been discussed.

Has your mad neighbour noticed that the cat is back yet?

diddl Sun 31-Mar-13 14:55:13

Hoorah!

He is absolutely beautiful!

Could you cat proof part of your garden?

riskit4abiskit Sun 31-Mar-13 15:31:13

This is such and interesting thread, glad your cats back.

If the neighbours start again I would repeatedly phone ss with ' concerns ' about their behaviour, funny noises you hear etc. Also if they are throwing food outside I would phone council as attracting rats would be a huge problem. I would also do the phoning every half hour too, taking pictures through the window etc.
Do they have any visiting relatives ever, perhaps they would be more reasonable?

GobTheGoblin Sun 31-Mar-13 15:33:46

Thank goodness he's home. He's a beautiful cat.

ClaudiaCutie Sun 31-Mar-13 18:51:04

What a dreadful shame he didn't get a run built for him two years ago, think of the grief and shouting and angst and police time and letters etc etc that could have been saved if the back garden had been cat proofed!

cocoachannel Sun 31-Mar-13 19:42:48

Helpful Claudia hmm OP has said that proofing her garden was not an option.

Very glad he is home!

PurpleRayne Wed 03-Apr-13 10:16:53

Is it rented? It is a rare garden that can't be cat-proofed in an unobtrusive way.

MagratOfStolat Tue 16-Apr-13 22:44:11

Please please update! Any more from the mental neighbour?! Or did the month-long absence shock the asshattery out of them?

Just read all of this thread, absolutely mental! Have there been anymore cat shenanigans?

ZOMBIE THREAD

I thought I had read this before.

Okay, you might want to ignore my l;ast post, my brain isn't workion too well today......

GoSuckEggs Thu 18-Apr-13 06:36:56

Oh my god, your NDN are mental! Could you not get the hose all set up and next time your cat rushes over to next door when you let him out, lean over the fence and get the hose on him and give him a drenching?

Very mean i know, but if it only happens when he is in their garden/waiting to get in house he might stop waiting to be let in?

SirSugar Fri 29-Nov-13 22:30:41

I last posted in March. I have to ring these fucking people every day now to get my cat out of their house.

I had a long discussion with the Husband a couple of days ago whereby he told me they don't want a cat, cats are evil walking the earth accusing me of neglect and we can retrain my cat if I ring them up every evening so that the cat can be bought to my fence. I said not letting him I in the first place will solve the problem but no, HIS way is the best way. ITS INSANE.

before anyone asks, I've said before...

cat pulls its fur out if kept in for any length of time

impossible to cat proof garden

police have been involved, talked to them twice, makes no difference

letters have been sent

cat is pedigree, microchipped and registered as mine

I'd rather not build giant cat run

I would also like to add the other morning when I left for work, the woman was standing at her kitchen door ( which faces the front of our house ) simulating masturbation and shouting 'i'm coming! I'm coming! It's good! It's good! - which I ignored, and her husband tells me she has all her wits about her and she is as normal as him.

I guess I'm posting now to vent, I'm so fed up with this, though it gets worse in winter because they think the poor cat will get cold if left out for more than 5 minutes apparently.

SirSugar Fri 29-Nov-13 22:34:25

I just noticed I started this thread almost two years ago and it was going on a year before that.

I fear there is no answer

MacaYoniandCheese Fri 29-Nov-13 22:36:26

Oh My God shock.

Umm, move?

SirSugar Fri 29-Nov-13 22:37:54

planning on moving in next couple of years

Chippednailvarnish Fri 29-Nov-13 22:39:08

I actually think I would consider rehoming the cat, for your own stress levels and the fact that I wouldn't want my poor cat near such revolting people.

Not much help sorry.

ZombieMojaveWonderer Fri 29-Nov-13 22:39:33

Moving house seems to be your only option. Or like someone suggested and use the hose...on them obviously and not the cat! wink

MsWazowski Fri 29-Nov-13 22:41:17

Actually, I know you said you would rather not build a cat run, I don't think you have any other option.

Floralnomad Fri 29-Nov-13 22:43:02

I think I agree with chipped , have you any family who could take him who live far enough away to stop him finding his way back ? that way if and when you move you can get him back .

SirSugar Fri 29-Nov-13 22:44:07

DCs don't want me to do that, rehome for a bit I mean

LambinsideaDuckinsideaTrout Fri 29-Nov-13 22:45:04

shock

Chippednailvarnish Fri 29-Nov-13 22:45:40

Then I think it will have to be a cat run.

Realistically if your neighbours are that unhinged, I don't think I could let the cat near them.

cozietoesie Fri 29-Nov-13 22:46:57

I'd rehome the cat directly, SirSugar. Even if you're planning to move in a couple of years, it's unfair to you and the cat to have this going on for that long. Or for any longer at all in fact. Have you thought of contacting the breed rescue?

cozietoesie Fri 29-Nov-13 22:48:14

I'd tell the DCs that it has to be done. Sometimes you just have to ignore the 'Oh Mummy........!'

SirSugar Fri 29-Nov-13 22:53:53

off to bed, will sleep on it; thank you all

may have already been suggested, as I have only read your posts, but what about a lead for the cat? they really exist and you can make sure the little bugger can't do one...

Fozzleyplum Fri 29-Nov-13 22:56:30

ASBO's have been imposed for less. The combination of the cat-related behaviour and the simulated masturbation would probably be enough. Think your neighbours may have a personality disorder.

PurpleRayne Fri 29-Nov-13 22:58:31

If it was a man doing that at the kitchen door would you have reported it to the police? Hope you have done so. Try flashing back - with your mobile phone on video.

If you bought the cat from a breeder, contact them, they often stipulate in your purchasing contract that they require you to take them back to them and not re-home yourself.

Poor animal.

cozietoesie Fri 29-Nov-13 23:09:01

Just one thing to add, Sir. Your demented neighbours have fixated on Catgate for over three years now. If the cat disappears (rehomed - or long term fostered which is another option), they'll likely find something else to fixate on - and then you'll probably have 'em.

Can't get over how mad this thread is. Poor OP and poor puss.

I love cats. I am allergic so can't have one. next doors cat, and one across the road, often come over to us for a fuss. They are stroked ON THE DOORSTEP and then they walk away. In the summer, they do wander in, because our doors are open. They are allowed to stroll around our kitchen (wipeable floors) but we chase them out if they manage to get anywhere with carpet. Next doors has a habit of climbing on to our conservatory roof and trying to get in the bedroom window, we have caught her halfway in a few times-and I'm sure we will soon find her asleep on the bed! However-our doors are always open. If cat has come in for a sniff around/a stroke, It is shooed out before we close the door. Isnt that how normal people deal with cats?

cozietoesie Fri 29-Nov-13 23:34:58

Neighbour cats may come into my garden (although we have precious few left these days - at least ones who go outside) but while I'm civil to them, I don't feed them, cosset them or allow them into my house.

They're not my cats.

Jux Sat 30-Nov-13 00:16:01

Phone 101 every time. Send a solicitor's letter.

Find a bloke to give you pee which you can pour around their doorstep.

Rosieliveson Sat 30-Nov-13 07:29:51

I'd start ringing at 2, 3am or 4am asking if they had the cat as he wasn't home and is usually at there's when he is missing - even though he's safely snoozing on your bed!! They might stop letting him in for a quieter life and a night's sleep.

SirSugar Mon 02-Dec-13 13:51:38

Last night I had to ring them to get the cat out of their house. Then I couldn't get the cat in, so I left him and went to bed - the temperature here was not too bad and the cat had run off up the street at every attempt to get him in.

After midnight I got a phonecall from the husband which woke me up ordering telling me to come down now and get my cat in as there are foxes in the garden and he is vunerable and I am cruel. I basically told him to fuck off, yet he went on and on about the welfare of my cat

I couldn't get the cat in despite trying as it was firmly positioned on their doorstep inside their garden.

Needless to say I got a poor nights sleep after that.

I am going to keep cat in from now on and will either get cat run or catproof fencing (small price to stop these disgusting people) - I know, I should have done it earlier.

hiddenhome Mon 02-Dec-13 14:05:12

Sorry this is still going on sad

I'm getting Protect A Puss cat fencing to stop my cats from getting out after one went missing in August.

Wibblypiglikesbananas Mon 02-Dec-13 14:06:34

Sir - I can't believe this is still going on! I remember this thread from my first maternity leave and I'm now on my second. This whole sorry situation has been going on for way too long now...

It's almost as if the crazy neighbours are stalking you via the cat. Can you get some kind of court order against them? Something to do with harassment? I don't know the terms but surely this has to constitute harassment in some form? It must be so ridiculously stressful for you.

I think the cat run is the only way to go, save moving. Good luck.

SirSugar Mon 02-Dec-13 14:22:47

Hiddenhome, I realised that I can build a very easy fencing using that stuff on the side return drive of my house with access from the kitchen - it will make a lovely extra little place to sit out in the summer.

In the meantime the cat stays home.

IceBeing Mon 02-Dec-13 14:35:35

good grief.

It is just incredible the way your neighbours have behaved...

SirSugar Mon 02-Dec-13 15:03:40

My neighbours are nuts, well, she is clearly not well and he is a nasty bastard

Whatisaweekend Mon 02-Dec-13 15:10:33

I am so, so sorry that this is still going on. I am glad to hear that you may have sussed out a cat run area that will also be nice to sit in the summer. The added satisfaction of knowing you have thwarted your bonkers neighbours will make it all the sweeter. As for the simulated masturbation, that's just not normal (and weird and gross). Shouldn't someone be told? Police? Local mental health services?

I've just read nearly the entire thread before realising that it was an old one, but your neighbours are definitely nuts. No idea what you can do about it though.

BitOutOfPractice Mon 02-Dec-13 15:28:56

OP I am aghast at this! fshock They sound utterly bonkers!

A few years ago I had a legal (civil) problem. I had a half hour (free) consultation with a solicitor who basically told me what to write in the forms for the small claims court. I won and this was against a large multinational company. It was easy to do and mighty effective.

Could you try something like that? Claim for stress, carpet cleaning, lost hours at work etc etc

BitOutOfPractice Mon 02-Dec-13 15:29:24

Just to add, the staff at the small claims court were also really helpful

unobtanium Mon 02-Dec-13 16:18:46

Would a cat-harness be a silly idea?

I am really not liking the sound of your NDNs

pictish Mon 02-Dec-13 16:25:00

Lunatics! shock

TheWitTank Mon 02-Dec-13 16:55:54

This thread is insane! Never heard anything like it. Personally I think you have the patience of a saint Sugar, I could not continually ring them and be civil.
Glad to hear you are considering cat proofing the garden now, I really do think nothing will ever change otherwise. It just basically needs to be a situation where they cannot get their hands on your cat at all, and the cat has no way of getting to them. No amount of calls, letters or police visits are going to change them after two years! You have obviously exhausted every other option bar rehoming which you shouldn't have to do. I would be tempted to put the cat on a lead and walk it round the garden twice/three times a day rather than let it loose to roam! Keep us updated, good luck!

Hissy Mon 02-Dec-13 17:30:37

Astounding! utterly insane.

Alisvolatpropiis Mon 02-Dec-13 18:34:17

Holy shit.

I'd have had to move or I'd have lost my mind.

Puts me minor neighbours feeding cat issue right into perspective.

They are insane.

Calloh Mon 02-Dec-13 20:07:34

Christ. I've just read this whole thread, the outrageous frustration, the extremely funny "you're not from Strictly", the horror when the cat goes missing, the sadness when his friend comes looking for him, the elation when he comes back. The grimness of the simulated masturbation. I was desperately, desperately hoping for a happy ending after two years. And there isn't one.

OP I'm so sorry. I hope the cat run works for you all and that the loathsome man next door finally accepts defeat. He can't easily get in to your garden can he?

BigArea Sat 18-Jan-14 12:44:42

SirSugar any update on this? Mind boggling.

yoniwherethesundontshine Sat 18-Jan-14 14:43:50

gosh only skimmed, what an unusual and strange situation. How odd.

feeding animals too much is abuse, I wonder if you shouldnt get a solicitors letter out lining this...

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