to really dislike it when picture books are just wrong?

(446 Posts)
mousyfledermaus Tue 18-Oct-11 21:44:29

for example "a squash and a squeeze" the house from the outside does not match (windows/doors) the inside.
not to mention funny proportions.

Proudnscary Tue 18-Oct-11 21:46:17

Are you an architect or a wee bit OCD? Either way, an interesting OP

<Goes upstairs to scrutinise all picture books forthwith>

TethHearseEnd Tue 18-Oct-11 21:48:31

Have you seen In The Night Garden yet?

mousyfledermaus Tue 18-Oct-11 21:48:58

when you have to read the books everyday at least 10 times a day for a fortnight only swap for the next favourite...

MurderBloodstabsandgore Tue 18-Oct-11 21:49:11

for god's sake don't watch In The Night Garden.

Have you seen 'the grumpalump'? The gnu blows into a hot air balloon and then sails away in it! What has he got, flame breath!!? Yanbu.

Seabright Tue 18-Oct-11 21:53:25

I am still annoyed by "Look There's A Baby" with it's "Surprise Mirror Ending"

Nooooooooooo! Either it has a surprise ending, or a mirror ending; it can't have both.

And breathe

Proudnscary Tue 18-Oct-11 21:58:37

Actually (slightly off topic) it does annoy me now that everyone's jumped on the 'higgledy piggledy writing all around and upside down the page in a quirky modern stylee' Lauren Child wagon. I spend my life turning books upside down, squinting and reading like a 5 year old.

MurderBloodstabsandgore Tue 18-Oct-11 22:00:34

seabright what? My baby can't read the cover! For the first time at least, the mirror was a surprise. grin

mousyfledermaus Tue 18-Oct-11 22:02:06

that is just so wrong as well.
and chosing typos that are difficult to read (well the first few times) when the book is held by a bouncy toddler.

Proudnscary Tue 18-Oct-11 22:09:42

Yes really all books should have straight lines, Times Roman or Helvetica typeface which adults are used to deciphering with ease and correctly scaled pictures.

<Wonders why she has jumped aboard this OCD train>

<But kind of likes it>

EcoLady Tue 18-Oct-11 22:12:10

It winds me up that the butterfly's wings are upside down at the end of the Very Hungry Caterpillar.

AblativeAbsolute Tue 18-Oct-11 22:13:11

God, YAsoNBU. Hate hate hate typos or other mistakes in books. So many kids' books are unbelievably badly written (though I have to admit I would forgive Julia Donaldson almost anything - I've never noticed the architectural problems with A Squash and a Squeeze before, but I will now, curse you OP!). My current irritation is The Very Busy Spider with its 'pesty' fly - pesky, surely??!! It's DS2's favourite book at the moment, so I have to look at it about ten times a day.

mumofthreekids Tue 18-Oct-11 22:14:04

Have you read Meg's Veg, anyone? Huge gaping hole in the plot!

Proudnscary Tue 18-Oct-11 22:14:24

<faints at 'pesty'>

aldiwhore Tue 18-Oct-11 22:15:56

I'd have once said you're a bit obsessive and pedantic, but when you've read the same book over and over and over again you see the flaws.

In StickMan, towards the last page where Santa comes down the chimney, his GREEN glove is in a scary claw shape.. it really annoys me, the picture is scary and it sullys santa!! Outrageous!!! grin

We have to skip that page. Grrr. Annoys me every single bloody time.

BertieBotts Tue 18-Oct-11 22:16:31

The surprise mirror ending is a surprise, though. The "mirror" is wonky and makes you look all blobulous.

BertieBotts Tue 18-Oct-11 22:17:22

I've never read Meg's Veg but did do a double take as I thought you had typed "Meg's Vag" shock

Panzee Tue 18-Oct-11 22:18:18

As a teacher, I like picture books with fonts that are easy to read upside down. smile

onefatcat Tue 18-Oct-11 22:18:46

...and the butterfly must actually be moth because butterfly caterpillars make a chrysalis not a coccoon.

mumofthreekids Tue 18-Oct-11 22:19:14

Bertie grin

Proudnscary Tue 18-Oct-11 22:19:23

Ooh not noticed that re StickMan. Will have a look.

Love all the Alex Thingy, Julia Whatsername books

bringmemoonshine2011 Tue 18-Oct-11 22:19:43

DS1 has a picture book that spell 'through' 'thru' aggrrah.

CrystalQueen Tue 18-Oct-11 22:22:29

Another vote against the upside down butterfly wings. Aaargh. Currently resisting the temptation to sneak into DD's room to check out scary claw Santa in Stick Man.

grumpypants Tue 18-Oct-11 22:22:50

Yes, santa in stick man is terrifying.

MamaMaiasaura Tue 18-Oct-11 22:23:27

Thanks OP for thread smilesmile

Aldiwhore - so That's why ds2 doesn't like that page.

The ladybird that said never a word - meant to have a ladybird on every page, but the opening cover and closing page doesn't. We end up talking about the types of poo piles on those pages instead

Hungry caterpillar - it is not a fecking cocoon it's a chrysalis. Annoys me every time.

I'm sure I'll post on here some more as ds2 is book obsessed grin

MamaMaiasaura Tue 18-Oct-11 22:24:20

X posts one fat cat smile

Big Cook Little Cook is like this. The proportions of the spoons and things that Big gives to Small, are just WRONG.

MumblingAndBloodyRagDoll Tue 18-Oct-11 22:25:22

The wings are not upside down! It's an artstic choice!


MrHeadlessMan Tue 18-Oct-11 22:26:59

Here's hoping the OP never reads a Dr. Seuss book. I think the fish riding a bicycle might make her head explode

FrankNCock Tue 18-Oct-11 22:30:34

I thought it was just me getting annoyed at the 'Pesty' fly! I just say 'Pesky' every time.

The perspective on In The Night Garden really winds me up. How can they be getting on the Pinky Ponk or the Ninky Nonk? They are tiny! And could they please make up their minds as to how much smaller Makka Pakka is? He seems to change in relation to Iggle Piggle and Upsy Daisy every time.

Don't even get me started on the Tombliboo bush, it's like a fucking TARDIS in there.

BeyondLimitsOfTheLivingDead Tue 18-Oct-11 22:33:38

I read Megs Vag too blush

ITNG! The scale? WTF?! My poor brain!!!

AblativeAbsolute Tue 18-Oct-11 22:35:02

PMSL frank. DH actually has to leave the room whenever ITNG comes on, otherwise he starts muttering under his breath like a lunatic, and all I can make out is little words like 'fucking' and 'scale' in between the puffs of steam emanating from his ears. And yes, I do just read it as 'pesky', but when DS1 learned to read and corrected me, we had to have a little chat grin.

academyblues Tue 18-Oct-11 22:36:09

Any pictures of spiders with less than the requisite 8 legs make my teeth itch.

FrankNCock Tue 18-Oct-11 22:37:11

Ah, well DS is only just 2, so we've got a bit of time to get him indoctrinated with 'pesky'.

AblativeAbsolute Tue 18-Oct-11 22:37:28

academyblues I agree, though you mean 'fewer', naturally grin.

beanandspud Tue 18-Oct-11 22:42:39

In the 'Ladybird said never a word' book whoever heard of a farmer being woken in the middle of the night by a thief and saying 'Golly Gosh!'. I am desperate to replace it with a more realistic expression.

And black writing on dark blue pages is impossible to read with energy saving lightbulbs (Oliver Jeffers).

Ha, the Squash and the Squeeze house used to really wind me up, I'd forgotten about that.

I also hate it when a whole book has really good rhyming but there is one page that just doesn't scan properly. Miffy books I'm thinking of you, also "We all Join In" by Quentin Blake - the rhyme about the cats just doesn't work for me, whereas the rest of them are perfect. I think Aliens Love Underpants has one of these as well.

silkenladder Tue 18-Oct-11 22:44:05

I can't believe no-one's mentioned Silly Suzy Goose yet: "If I was a penguin..." etc.

I was brought up on The Very Hungry Caterpillar and so never realsed the cocoon/chrysalis error blush.

pookamoo Tue 18-Oct-11 22:44:13

We had a book about farms from the library with a photo of straw balesincorrectly bearing the label "hay bales". I nearly emailed the publishers to complain but then I thought they would think I was a pedant with nothing better to do better of it. Still wrong, though.

MamaMaiasaura Tue 18-Oct-11 22:46:46

Have to say I'm loving reading "the pirate cruncher" and also "good little wolf" both are a little dark

silkenladder Tue 18-Oct-11 22:46:49

Aargh, yes, one of Aliens Love Underpants or Dinosaurs Love Underpants has terrible punctuation. You do not use commas after every line of rhyme.

Minshu Tue 18-Oct-11 22:47:30

When I saw the thread title, I thought you meant morally wrong - like that thieving / murdering Jack (of Beanstalk fame)...

<shuffles to scrutinise the books on the lowest shelves in the living room>

AblativeAbsolute Tue 18-Oct-11 22:47:58

Oh god, silkenladder, I'd forgotten about Silly Suzy Goose!! Had to take it back to the library because I couldn't bring myself to keep reading it blush.

WitchesAreComing Tue 18-Oct-11 22:48:03

grin at the Golly Gosh farmer saying, "Fucking cunt" in beanandspud's imagination (possibly)

AblativeAbsolute Tue 18-Oct-11 22:50:19

beanandspud I love the 'drinking tea with the burglar' scene in Mog The Forgetful Cat, for the same reason.

StellaNova Tue 18-Oct-11 22:52:38

I feel your pain OP. I am currently a/ trying to work out when Peepo is supposed to be set exactly - clearly during the second world war but why have the children not been evacuated from London? (nitpicking because have to read it at least twice a day - love it really) and b/ in the second verse of Rock a Bye Baby how can daddy be a nobleman and mummy be a queen? I suppose mummy could be queen in her own right and daddy is a nobleman and not a king but brother is a drummer and drums for the king so there is a king somewhere. Just some of the thoughts running through my head as I sit in the dark willing DS2 to go to sleep.

FrankNCock Tue 18-Oct-11 23:03:57

Inspired by another thread.

May I submit 'Good Night Gorilla' as another book where the perspective is a bit off?

The 'gorilla' in question is also not a gorilla. Possibly a small chimp. But way too small to be a gorilla. In some pictures he looks small enough to be a spider monkey.

Butkin Tue 18-Oct-11 23:08:07

I always wince when a male cow is depicted, in picture books, with udders.

ScatterChasse Tue 18-Oct-11 23:15:10

The second verse of hush-a-bye baby worries me too Stella, unless daddy is not in fact married to mummy.

Or he could be King and also an Earl or similar? But then who are Johnny and Bessie? Unless they're not the baby's brother and sister, just people the baby would see often...

I'm putting too much thought into this!

FrankNCock Tue 18-Oct-11 23:17:31

And in 'Because a Little Bug Went Ka-Choo', how can a worm kick a tree? Just how?

CaptainNancy Tue 18-Oct-11 23:26:58

Yay! someone else who feels the same about 'suqash and a squeeze'! grin I can die happpy....

stellanova- not all children were evacuated.

"astonding said the gruffalo"

Really? Astonding!!!!!

BarryKent Tue 18-Oct-11 23:41:37

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

blackeyedsusan Tue 18-Oct-11 23:44:22

my dad can spot mistakes in school history books by the make of the car. (eg thats not x date because that car wasn't built until x +1 date)

I think the animals in good night gorilla are all babies as they all have toys. i have had rather too much time to contemplate this whilst "reading" it to ds every single night for several months. <weeps>

I've recently got a copy of Julie's Jungle which states "Julie follows the monkey's through the jungle". I have alerted the apostrophe police.

I am also upset at the presence of lions and zebras in a jungle.

Is Peepo set in London though? I'd always assumed it was set in a town. blush

Agree with the terrible metre in Dinosaurs Love Underpants, and the upside down butterfly wings! I also get annoyed by We're Going On A Bear Hunt - why go on a fecking bear hunt if you're just going away when you find one?! hmm And DD always gets upset at the last page when the poor lonely bear is trudging home all on his own. sad

WhollyGhost Wed 19-Oct-11 08:59:06

A cow cannot be a "he" grrrrrr

Not a book but sponge bob square pants and his camp fires under the sea make my teeth itch

colken Wed 19-Oct-11 09:03:20

Fiction books are just that - fiction. Anyone who knows the inside of a Victorian two up two down terraced house will recognise Coronation Street houses. The interior does not match what the outside suggests.

AblativeAbsolute Wed 19-Oct-11 09:05:36

attheendoftheday (great name, by the way) I'm with you on the inappropriate animal habitats. Reminds me of a friend of mine (who's African) who gets incensed about lions in jungles, tigers with lions, Africa being one amorphous 'country' and so on. In our house, lions and zebras live firmly on the savannah, and tigers are strictly Asian wink.

puddlejumper I'm glad you mentioned Bear Hunt, because I've always been puzzled by the relationship between the protagonists. Is the bloke the father or a much older brother? And is the oldest female a wife or a daughter? She looks too old to be his daughter, but too young to be his wife. And if she's the daughter, then where's the wife? (I know, I shouldn't be so conventional, it could be a single father household, but it's just always troubled me.)

AKMD Wed 19-Oct-11 09:11:22

YANBU. Agree with it's NOT A COCOON!!!!! Grrrrr! On the Eric Carle website he does admit that he is wrong but he used it because 'cocoon' sounded better hmm

I HATE books designed for small children that HaVe tEXt LikE tHiS. Yes, Cahrlie and Lola, I'm looking at YOU! How does that help a child learning to read to enjoy the book?

My mum complained to the publisher of the Miffy books once when I was little because the text said that the door of Miffy's house was re, but in the picture it was clearly orange. They wrote back and said that on their colour scale, the door was red. Fine if you're an illustrator using Paint hmm

Apologies for the capitals. I get a bit irate about this sort of nonsense blush

AKMD Wed 19-Oct-11 09:12:23

*Charlie and Lola

Good thing I don't write children's books...

AKMD Wed 19-Oct-11 09:13:02

the door of Miffy's house was *red


onefatcat Wed 19-Oct-11 09:26:24

Well it COULD be a cocoon- but then the caterpillar would turn into a moth, not a butterfly!

Eskarina Wed 19-Oct-11 09:30:15

Nothing to do with pictures or errors, but similar to the farmer/ladybird comments...
DH has an almost irresistible urge to modify the text to "The Duck in the Truck" you know, with the incessant rhyme when duck's truck gets stuck in the what should the duck say??
Thankfully he's never read the modified version to a child, but I now can't read it to my class with a straight face and a terror it accidentally slipping in there..

BedatHogwarts Wed 19-Oct-11 09:33:10

So many mistakes in 'Mog and the Baby'...

Why is Nicky being kept home from school when he only has a cold, but is clearly well enough to look after a baby and walk into town?
Why is the baby referred to as it? The baby is walking, so clearly over a year old. Has nobody checked between the legs, and maybe given the baby a name? And why is baby delivered with bare feet, when it is cold outside (everyone wearing coats)?
Why are there so many dogs just wandering about in the streets by themselves?
What kind of stupid cat lets themselves be dressed in a bonnet and pushed around town in a dolls pram? And what sort of 6(?) year old boy would humiliate himself by pushing said cat and pram in public?
Who gives a cat a whole fish, including head, tail, bones etc. to eat?
Why is nobody wearing seatbelts in the car?
Why, when she returns, is Mrs Clutterbuck not incredibly pissed off with Mrs Thomas for failing to look after her baby to the extent that he/she is almost run over by a car, but instead purchases a fish as a reward for the cat (who lured the baby into danger in the first place) without even entering the fish shop?

Can you tell I have to read this sodding annoying book nearly every day? grin

silverten Wed 19-Oct-11 09:33:29

Thank you for this thread. I feel normal now.

(Just spent a couple of years mentally telling myself off for being pedantic and nitpicking every time I spotted an inconsistency in a child's book)

MsWeatherwax Wed 19-Oct-11 09:34:36

Brown bear, brown bear, what do you see? I see a BLUE HORSE looking at me? WTF? There are no blue horses in real life, all the other animals are real animals. This annoys me.

Also, the way that most picture books have the fantasy nuclear white middle class straight 1950s mummy stays at home family by default, and the ones that don't are the exceptions and are making a point of it, like 'Mummy Goes To Work'.

GalaxyWeaver Wed 19-Oct-11 09:38:31

of course a 'cow' can be male.

The plural is "Cattle" but there is no singular name for the breed, so you have to use the gender specific "Bull/Bullock" or "Cow/Heifer" but in instances where the sex is unknown or irrelevent "Cow" is the accepted singular for the breed.

so there! grin

MrsPlugThePlumber Wed 19-Oct-11 09:38:49

My DD's favourite at the moment is "Where's my Teddy" - Jez Alborough.

Except for "they ran and they ran through the dark wood, back to their homes as quick as they could".

Surely it's quickLY?

I have very almost emailed the publisher about this blush

AblativeAbsolute Wed 19-Oct-11 09:38:49

Ha ha, Hogwarts, I HATE Mog and the Baby for the same reasons. And I don't even have the book, only the spoken word CD, so I haven't even seen the dodgy bare feet issues. Luckily DS1 hates it too (indoctrination? surely not...) so we always skip over it.

PickleSarnie Wed 19-Oct-11 09:39:22

I am positively outraged, outraged I tell you, at the utter irresponsibility of "Dear Zoo". Imagine giving every small child who wrote to the zoo a vast collection of totally unsuitable animals. What's a 1 year old going to do with a lion?!

babybarrister Wed 19-Oct-11 09:48:55

and don't get me started on books about the Arctic that include penguins [only found in the Antarctic ....]

CaptainNancy Wed 19-Oct-11 09:52:31

joyfulpuddlejumper- there are London buses, so I assume it's London. (I also think the father is off to do his shift on air raid watch, not back off to the front as others have suggested (previous threads)).

We also have sadness at the last page of Bear Hunt...

I think the chap is father to some of the children, and the others are their cousins, and the 2 women (sisters) have gone out for the day together, and probably won't be too pleased when they come home and see what they all got up to!

Dinosaurs/Aliens Underpants I agree the rhymes are so clanky and ill fitting I rework them as I read (and its not hard to do so which makes me wonder if it's intentional).

Mog and the Baby - yes to all of the above - Mrs Clutterbuck should be FURIOUS that her baby was wandering out of the house into the road. But then she does look like she's stressed to the max on drop off so maybe her grip on reality is a little shaky through sleep deprivation.

CaptainNancy Wed 19-Oct-11 09:53:25

I am quite secretly pleased that the baby monkey in 'Monkey Puzzle' is a pedant though- 'No, no, no- that's my Dad' wink

TipOfTheSlung Wed 19-Oct-11 09:55:12

I think its talking about 'he' with regards to a cow that then has udders

FrankNCock Wed 19-Oct-11 09:55:39

How about the companion piece to 'Brown Bear Brown Bear What Do You See?' that is 'Polar Bear Polar Bear What Do You Hear?'

I have just been to the zoo, and the flamingos most certainly do not make a 'fluting' noise. They honk.

Mildly off topic - In Alfie Gets in First I always wonder if Mrs MacNally's Maureen is her daughter, with Mrs MacNally as an older mum, or her granddaughter, I wish it would say but Shirley Hughes can do no wrong in my eyes - this is curiousity not a flaw in the book!

ramonacoaster Wed 19-Oct-11 10:01:00

AKMD agree with the ChArLiE and LoLA, and the writing does the 'loop the loop' and goes UP
whilst you are trying to read it.....very off-putting.grin

TheTenantOfWildfellHall Wed 19-Oct-11 10:03:22

SIL showed me a picture book she bought for her niece with labeled photos of different animals so that baby can learn.

On the bird page there is a photo of a puffin with the label 'Pelican' underneath it!

MrsTittleMouse Wed 19-Oct-11 10:03:38

Marks and Spencer made a book about a little penguin. Who was friends with a polar bear, a fox and a seal. hmm Drove me nuts every time! What was he doing in the Arctic? My opinion of M&S went right down.

Tigers and lions together also make my blood boil.

I need to get out more. grin

I get a twitch when I see animals in 'the jungle' which clearly come from the savanna, but I'm dealing with it, one book at a time grin.

Beamur Wed 19-Oct-11 10:06:03

Distress at the sad bear at the end of 'Going on a Bear Hunt' here too.
My DH would love this thread - he particularly enjoys 'Each Peach Pear Plum' and some story about a cow called Bramble we have because they are geographically true - the layout and relative positioning is consistent.
I've not noticed the claw hand in Stick Man...but will have to go and look now.
I often tweak the words or metre to a story/poem to make it fit how I would like it to be - but then I have to remember to do it each time or I get told off for not reading the story 'right' - once DD can read I may get found out.

I tweak Aliens love Underpants, can't remember which bit (it's been a while). Also some of the Miffy books, which oddly enough make me want to read them in the voice of Pam Ayres........

CaptainNancy Wed 19-Oct-11 10:11:35

smethwickbelle- Mrs McNally's Maureen is clearly her daughter! I imagine she's about 19, and Mrs. McNally is around 50 (but I'd never ask, because you don't ask a lady her age wink)

Don't forget, in those days, you weren't an adult until 21...

Actually, age of majority changed from 21 to 19 on 01/01/1970... so Maureen technically an adult I think.

Captain Nancy [grins] You see I'd say Maureen only looks about 15 and I'd place Mrs McNally at more like 60.

CaptainNancy Wed 19-Oct-11 10:21:41

Hard lives, hard lives <<taps side of nose>>

I always imagine that Alfie's family are the only mc family in the street- they are living in that area to be true to their socialist principles. Once Mum goes back to Social Work when Annie Rose is at school, they'll probably move to a house the other side of the High St, where they used to have a 1-bed flat until the children came along. <<snigger>>

TotemPole Wed 19-Oct-11 10:22:23

In The Tiger Who Came to Tea ... you can't drink all the water out of the tap. It doesn't work like that.

In 'An Evening at Alfie's' it says that Maureen wants to be a plumber when she leaves school. Still no.idea whether she's a daughter or granddaughter though!

beanandspud Wed 19-Oct-11 10:30:48

In 'Topsy and Tim go the the doctor' why don't we see mummy begging and pleading with the receptionist for a same-day appointment?

And when Topsy gets a sore throat at tea time they just trundle back off to the Health Centre again (which obviously never closes and has immediate drop-in appointments).

TotemPole - that was also on my list of niggles.

LifeOfKate Wed 19-Oct-11 10:32:17

Hogwarts, I love you, you've just saved me from having to type a whole essay about the wrongness of Mog and the Baby grin
Never mind buying the sodding cat a fish as a reward, if I was Mrs Clutterbuck, I would NOT be letting Mrs Thomas babysit again and would be here typing a very strongly worded AIBU.

DS has a terrible book called Rabbit's Nap (Julia Donaldson again) which does not flow well at all. A sample line is: 'Hush-a-bunny! Tra-la-la! We'll sing you off to sleep! Zzzzz! Zzzzz! What's that? Shall we have a peep?' hmm I never know how to say the Zzzz, do I actually say them as Zeds or just make sleeping-style noises? confused Also it has a line that goes 'Bang! Clash!Who's that? Oh no! a band of Mice'. I CANNOT say Clash, it always sounds very wrong and I end up saying Crash instead.

CristinaaarghdellAaarghPizza Wed 19-Oct-11 10:35:46

SmethWitch - I think Mrs McNally's Maureen is her daughter but moved out of home, she's just over visiting her mum. Why did you think she wasn't her daughter? <intrigued>

Peepo is definitely in WWII in London - my dad and his brother weren't evacuated, my nan wouldn't let them go

CristinaaarghdellAaarghPizza Wed 19-Oct-11 10:36:39

I have had heated discussions about the rhyme and meter of the Tallest Giant in Town which just doesn't work on some of the pages

LifeOfKate Wed 19-Oct-11 10:37:39

Captain Nancy - ooo, I also had Alfie's mum down as a social worker too grin

TotemPole - I didn't notice that part when I was a child. I was, however, very slightly concerned that Sophie was allowed to go outside in her nightie! In wellies, no less! What is it with inappropriately dressed children in these stories

festivalwidow Wed 19-Oct-11 10:39:42

M&S had a book '10 wriggly caterpillars' a while ago:
"4 wriggly caterpillars met a bird in a tree. One stayed to sing, and then there were 3.."
Stayed to sing?? Caterpillars can't sing, and in any case all four of them would have been eaten on the spot by any bird worth its salt.
'What the ladybird heard' also has the goose saying 'hiss' which confuses my one year old. Don't geese say 'honk'?
Kate, I just snored for the 'zzzzz' in Rabbit's Nap, which makes it scan a bit better...
Love this thread. The gnu in the Grumpalump made me a little hmm too..

mousyfledermaus Wed 19-Oct-11 10:42:31

geese make a funny sound which is sort of similar to saying honk whilst drawing the breath in iyswim.
keep them coming, I might print out this tread and take it to the next library visit and if the dc want anything that is mentioned here I shall not let them have it

mousyfledermaus Wed 19-Oct-11 10:43:37

oh, and if you annoy a goose it will go hiss. and then it will bite you and hit you with their wings.

Can't believed no one has mentioned 'Bye Bye Baby'.

I mean, really, just why?

How you can you be a 'mummy with no baby' even if you do roam the streets with an empty pram and have all the necessary baby paraphernalia at home?

and how does the baby get in the cot by itself and more to the point, who owns the baby's house??

Plus it's impossible to read with pregnancy hormones floating around blush

festivalwidow Wed 19-Oct-11 10:55:40

True re: hissing geese. Perhaps, then, the goose on the farm was permanently annoyed? Was the pen too small for it? Was it (perhaps justifiably) jealous of the duck for having the pond all to itself? There's a whole sub-plot here that begs examination.... grin

Zagazou is completely illogical, but brilliantly accurate in a way - I'm prepared to accept the baby turning up in a parcel for the fact he turns into a vulture with piercing shrieks that were even worse at night.

ByeBye Baby sounds terribly traumatic!

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 10:57:03

Love this thread grin

I also wondered if the tallest girl was the mum or not in Bear Hunt - i thought it might just be a nice bit of misogynism in play like the advert where the bloke appears to forget his anniversary and scatters rose petal for his "teenage daughter"....

DS1 found Funnybones incredibly hard to read - white writing on black - when he bought it home from school, more so than other books. When i told the teacher she said yes it happens a lot and has been a complaint in the past so why continue to use it then?? confused

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 11:02:25

When i was a child i used the think the boy in 'where the wild things are' was a rabbit....blush having an adventure. Took me into adulthood to realise they were novelty pyjamas on a normal boy....

beanandspud Wed 19-Oct-11 11:18:00

Forgot to mention that in 'A Squash and a Squeeze' there is a disappearing plant on the windowsill in the final pages - it's there on the inside but not on the outside and the teapot changes colour but maybe that's just pedantic

This whole thread is pedantic, that's what I like about it!

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 11:21:03

Actually, having just googled - he looks more like a cat confused - no idea why i used to think he was a rabbit....

VenetiaLanyon Wed 19-Oct-11 11:31:37

Pedants steer clear from the metre in "Class 2 at the Zoo." The author has clearly no idea about scanning poetry, or that, if you want the emphasis to be correct in reading out loud, you need to include whole sentences on the same page. <edgy teeth emoticon>

I correct "Marv and me" to "Marv and I" in Charlie and Lola, and also help out the burglar in Burglar Bill, and Mr and Mrs McGregor in "The Tale of the Flopsy Bunnies" with their grammar....

I thought that the bear hunt family were experiencing the unfortunate consequences of a day out without the mother; were they at all prepared with coats and the like for snowstorms etc? Would the mother have let them cross the river like that? I rest my case...

notcitrus Wed 19-Oct-11 11:34:51

In ELEPHANT where the elephant is clearly imaginary, Grandma asks if the elephant messed up somewhere and ate all the cakes and the boy says "'Well.... yes,' I said truthfully"

No!!! Either the elephant is real so Grandma and Grandpa can see the bloody animal, or you're not being truthful!

I leave the word out when reading it but it gets on my wick every time. Shame as it's a lovely book otherwise. And ds will learn to read soon.

But then I'm the one who reads Mr Quiet and adds to 'he had to go shopping' with 'because there aren't any supermarkets or online deliveries in Loudland'...

frightstick Wed 19-Oct-11 11:35:42

I'm pretty sure that in Alfie and the Birthday Surprise, Bob MacNally has his 50th birthday.

Older people were older in them days - before Mary Portas and all grin

CristinaaarghdellAaarghPizza Wed 19-Oct-11 11:35:48

Oh no, the eldest female in Bear Hunt is definitely a daughter, not the mum.

And yes to Alfie's mum being a social worker grin I always feel really bad when I read the story about the shop in the garden and wonder when I'm going to get asked why I am so grumpy every time I am forced to play shops for five minutes when Alfie's lovely mum and grandma spend the entire afternoon buying seeds and berries

frightstick Wed 19-Oct-11 11:38:56

Also glad I'm not the only one who is confused about Bear Hunt. I think I finally came down on the side of 'older sister'.

Although DS1, who is 5, announced last week that he thinks they didn't go on a bear hunt at all, but were under the covers the whole time, and Daddy was just telling them all a story about the teddy bear.

Sent me into a completely new reality crisis grin

But Venetia, Burglar Bill is supposed to speak badly to signify his working class jolly good chap even though he steal stuff credentials.

I don't like the sad bear at the end of WGOABH either, let alone my DD.

CaptainNancy Wed 19-Oct-11 11:49:40

Ha! frightstick- you may well be right grin what a fantastic interpretation.

joyfulpuddlejumper- we haven't read 'an evening at alfie's', so I didn;t know that.

In the 'Rabbit's Nap' book, I do a fake snore btw.

lifeofKate - funny about Sophie's nightie- my 2yo always comments on her father's suit, as it is the same pattern as DH's pyjama trousers! grin

TipOfTheSlung Wed 19-Oct-11 11:50:40

In 'we're going ona bear hunt' why do they tiptoe back out of the cave when theres a bear chasing them?

frightstick Wed 19-Oct-11 11:54:07

picklesarnie when reading Dear Zoo I always end it by telling DS2 that maybe he would have had more success if he had written to a pet shop!

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 11:54:13

The only thing i can think of is that the final picture of 'squash and squeeze' is set some time later when she has moved the flowers and changed her teapot - to show ongoing happiness at big house...

...i notice the wise old man is still visiting though wink - maybe he's after a squash and a squeeze.....

Can't explain the amazing moving doors and windows though....

nickelbabe Wed 19-Oct-11 11:56:11

oh blimey.

I sell these books to kids yo uknow.

to kids

I feel so very bad now.

frightstick Wed 19-Oct-11 11:56:51

I always find the picture on the wall that looks like Hitler disturbing in Squash and a Squeeze, lebensraum and all that.

WhollyGhost Wed 19-Oct-11 11:58:19

Cattle which are male are called bulls or bullocks, if castrated. Cows is generally only used as a plural when referring to e.g. a field of cows, all female.

One of my DD's favourite books does feature a male "cow", with udders, if I could find it I'd name and shame the authors.

It is like having a male "hen" laying eggs.

AKMD Wed 19-Oct-11 11:59:49

Tip because the dad and his teenage fling are clearly completely incompetent and should never have sole care of children.

WhollyGhost Wed 19-Oct-11 11:59:51

and my DD does point out that, in Good Night Moon, the lady whispering hush, is not a lady but a rabbit....

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 12:02:00

Frightstick - clearly her husband in his later years - same chap that's with all the farm animals in the other pic - but grown a moustache...

Doubt the 'wise old man' would be anywhere near her if he thought she was a Nazi widow wink

vincentvangogh Wed 19-Oct-11 12:07:56

I have a huge problem with a book I have received no less than THREE times from Bookstart. Peepo Baby contains the line "who's that splashing in the bath? Peepo duck, you make me laugh."

Bath and laugh do not rhyme unless you pronounce "th" as "f". We don't all live in SE London, y'know.

Aunty Pidj and Uncle PidjDP would like to confess

All books bought for car-obsessed 4yo DNephew are scrutinised to ensure that makes and models are clearly identifiable and accurate blush

I have been know to buy him books simply because the car in it has the engine in the back and "is like Mummy's car" (Karmann Ghia)

In my defence, SIL is also a bit of a car nut and finds it hilarious when I ring her to say I've found a Ghia in a child's picture book


VenetiaLanyon Wed 19-Oct-11 12:14:57

Not a book, but an issue with a sing-a-long CD. Spot the painful, painful mistake...

"Ten fat sausages sizzling in the pan, ten fat sausages sizzling in the pan.
If one went pop and the other went bang, there'd be 9 fat sausages etc etc"

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 12:16:23

see Vincent - i would have another problem with that - DSs pronounce Bath in the hard northern way like me but say Laugh in the posher southern way which is where they go to school....

VenetiaLanyon Wed 19-Oct-11 12:17:23

Also, sleeping bunnies "They're so still, are they ill?" I would have thought that illness would merit them thrashing around uncomfortably, and the bunnies are actually more likely to have perished. "So still in bed, are they dead" anyone? grin

vincentvangogh Wed 19-Oct-11 12:18:37

Venetia would it be:

"so still in bed, are they dead?"

followed by:

"resurrect little bunnies!"

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 12:19:21

They appear to be in stasis ... do they have myxomatosis...

<gets coat>

BedatHogwarts Wed 19-Oct-11 12:19:52

Unless the sausages were laced with gunpowder, the bang/pop would probably just be the skin splitting, in which case all ten sausages would remain inside the pan. If they did contain gunpowder, all 10 sausages, the pan and probably the hob and most of the kitchen would be destroyed.

We sing 10-8-6-4-2-0. Makes the song quicker!

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 12:20:24

Or or...

One sleeps
One doses
One is dead from myxomatosis

AKMD Wed 19-Oct-11 12:24:14

Crying with laughter at 'resurrect little bunnies' grin

AKMD Wed 19-Oct-11 12:25:03

I don't think DS could manage 'myxomatosis', sorry. He is currently calling Elmer an 'effelant' grin

TheBrideofFrankenstein Wed 19-Oct-11 12:26:23

Playgroup song

"She's a leopard, She's a leopard
And she's covered in spots
But if she had stripes
She'd be a tiger"

Um no, not unless she was also a completely different species

beanandspud Wed 19-Oct-11 12:26:41

grin at "Still in bed, are they dead?"

BartletForAmerica Wed 19-Oct-11 12:31:11

nickelbabe, you are no better than the local drug pusher, I tell you!

I am so glad other get annoyed at the lack of ladybird on the first and last pages. DS is only 14mo so he hasn't noticed yet, but I certainly have!

Has anyone explained what is the plot hole in Megs Vag Veg? I thought she magics up some seeds and they grow into lots of veg, the end?

The pages tend to fall out of Meg and Mog books really easily so perhaps the plot hole is just a missing page.

learnermummy Wed 19-Oct-11 12:44:59

This thread is hilarious.
I did wonder where those ladybirds were...

nickelbabe Wed 19-Oct-11 12:47:56

actuallym, have to sy, I'm disappointed in the It's My Birthday book by Rod Campbell - along the lines of Dear Zoo, and the best present at hte end is a kitten (or something, can't remember!)
and of course, it's the best pressie.

you're not supposed to give pets for presents because it doesn't show responsibility
(as in "a dog is for life not just for christmas" )

ElaineReese Wed 19-Oct-11 12:50:33

I loathed Dear Zoo. And in fact all of Rod Campbell, but especially Buster's Day. Who is this weird unsupervised toddler?

DP used to get cross with The Tiger Who Came To Tea, because you CANNOT DRINK ALL THE WATER IN THE TAP! He used to always add which is not possible after that line.

nickelbabe Wed 19-Oct-11 12:50:34

sorry bartlett sad

nickelbabe Wed 19-Oct-11 12:51:43

I have difficulty reading out loud anyway, so anything I read sounds stilted and wrong (but I do change things once I've readthem if I think they're wrong)

my poor unborn child is going to be the most pedantic child in the world.

AKMD Wed 19-Oct-11 12:56:42

I like Dear Zoo but shock at "I'm Not Scary". What is that all about?! I don't want DS to be scared of spiders. Who will remove them for me if DH isn't there?

DS's favourite book for months was a Dolly Parton reading scheme one called Baby's Bathtime. I would like to point out that 'wash, wash, wash' does not rhyme with 'spish, splash, splash'. As 'splish' isn't a real word, why didn't they just make the last one 'splosh'? confused I always change it.

I always anglicise 'I looked out the window' in the Popcorn song too.

CaptainNancy we've only had it since the weekend so I've only just discovered her age myself!

Loving the new versions of the rabbits song but now have it stuck in my head. confused

DH loathes The Tiger Who Came To Tea because the woman in it seems incapable of making any sensible decisions and has to wait for Daddy to get home. hmm

ElaineReese Wed 19-Oct-11 13:00:42

Oh yes, Daddy comes home and says 'I know what we'll do: we'll put on our coats and go to a cafe', doesn't he?

Of its time, I suppose.

darksideofthemoonbells Wed 19-Oct-11 13:02:07

oh yes to the butterfly wings in the H.C.
Artists do seem to be astonishingly ignorant of basic science (or observational skills).

My biggest annoyance is the moon the wrong way round! How many times (in adult art as well) do you see an evening moon that is C-shaped? It's the other way round!!!!! (Well it is in the northern hemisphere)

Close behind it is the other thing artists don't seem to be able to observe correctly. Rainbows! OK, all together now, red on the outside, NOT the inside!!! (It's only the other way round on the secondary).

And then there's the rainbows with the sun parked in them. Er... they have to be on the opposite side of the sky...

ThePsychicSatsuma Wed 19-Oct-11 13:02:44

dislike the lauren child books that randomly read across 2 pages horizontally, then switch back to the normal left side then right side. hmm

Even when I am familiar with the stories I always fluff it up.

agree the loop the loop text pisses me off too, trying to calm child down to sleep not whizz book round with squinty eyes

nickelbabe Wed 19-Oct-11 13:05:05

the moon is C shaped when it's in its last quarter.

mousyfledermaus Wed 19-Oct-11 13:05:42

How many times (in adult art as well) do you see an evening moon that is C-shaped?
half of the month actually... when the moon is moving towards new-moon

NotJustClassic Wed 19-Oct-11 13:06:58

DS always points out that Maisy is not wearing oven gloves when she makes gingerbread.

I always thought mummy in The Tiger Who Came To Tea was on the pop and it was she who drank all daddy's beer and was subsequently too drunk to go shopping, pay the water rates and so concocted the Tiger story as a cover for why the house was in such a state.

AblativeAbsolute Wed 19-Oct-11 13:07:20

Rod Campbell again - whenever I read Oh Dear, it annoys me that the rabbit says 'squeak'. Now, I'm not saying that rabbits are incapable of squeaking, but it is not their defining noise. They are clearly from the 'snuffle snuffle' genus that also includes hedgehogs and the like.

darksideofthemoonbells Wed 19-Oct-11 13:08:43

Yes, I agree but it is then on the other side of the sun. You'll never see it C-shaped after sunset in the nornthern hemiphere.

Just before sunrise, yes, but the context of so many books is its shape at bedtime...

AblativeAbsolute Wed 19-Oct-11 13:08:48

smethwitchbelle my husband has the same theory, though he hadn't thought it through as far as non-payment of water rates grin

darksideofthemoonbells Wed 19-Oct-11 13:09:04


darksideofthemoonbells Wed 19-Oct-11 13:10:01

Ironically Meg and Mog gets the moon right... grin

Haberdashery Wed 19-Oct-11 13:10:12

The ones that have annoyed me most of all are those bloody 'That's Not My...' things. Pictures of bunnies claiming that their eyes are too shiny when the eyes in question are quite clearly hardly shiny at all. Come on, would it really be too hard to make the words match the bunnies a bit better? What the feck is the use of them if they are so bloody inaccurate?

AblativeAbsolute Wed 19-Oct-11 13:12:12

Oh, whoever mentioned the pedantic monkey in Monkey Puzzle - I also like that book because of the pedantically correct 'none of my babies looks like me' (instead of 'look like'). Go Julia.

Though, on the reverse side, I don't like the Gruffalo fish in Tiddler. I don't mind JD's little in-jokes usually (e.g. Stick Man and the Gruffalo toy popping up in Tabby McTat) because they're fairly plausible, but I hate the fact that all the other fish in Tiddler are 'real', and then you get this bloody Gruffalo fish swimming about.

JanePumpkin Wed 19-Oct-11 13:14:14

LOL at the whole thread. Especially Meg's vag which nearly made me spit my sandwich out...I mean if you're going to post about great gaping holes in the same post, please be careful with your juxtaposition smile

The one I have the most trouble with is

'If at first you do not see'.

The title is bad enough being the first part of a well known proverb but WRONG

and then the horrendous, terrifying pictures
DS1 loved it
The times I tried to sneak it intothe recycling

Dear Lord

ThePsychicSatsuma Wed 19-Oct-11 13:15:20

yy agree HATE and will never buy/borrow any books that make spiders scary, or going to bed scary, being in the dark scary, anything with monsters under to bed.

Boooks are to soothe and educate and enjoy ffs NOT to create phobias and fears where before there were none <grrrrrrrr>

JanePumpkin Wed 19-Oct-11 13:15:37

I mean it's passive aggressive authorship isn't it

it's really about frightening kids out of their wits

but she got away with it. I know not how. Possibly because it was a sinister fairly interesting concept

JanePumpkin Wed 19-Oct-11 13:17:29

and I really, REALLY shouldn't say this but the book we had where there were sticky patches on the page, meant to be chocolatey fingerprints - with little waxed paper covers to stop them getting fluff all over them before you had left the shop.

I think it was a poppy cat one

WHOSE idea was that?

ThePsychicSatsuma Wed 19-Oct-11 13:17:44

I quite liked the gruffalo fish.

the snail and the whale just annoys me. Unsure as to why.

I also agree with the poster who has an issue with the writers who don't know where animals live - Yes, YOU, Mr 'Rumble in the Jungle' ....

I often correct 'daddy's beer' to 'mummy's wine' in The Tiger Who Came to Tea. Reads much better that way grin.

I have to swap 'nice' for 'lovely' in Zog, it just doesn't scan otherwise (possibly not written for northeners?)

ThePsychicSatsuma Wed 19-Oct-11 13:20:36

there should be more books akin to 'You Choose' so many ways to read/invent from it. Brill.

I remember the book about vegetable/ fruit faces which you turned upside down and it made a face, or something. that was fabulous.

Lotkinsgonecurly Wed 19-Oct-11 13:21:04

The Little Princess books - not sure which came first the cartoon or the books but she is always wearing a nightdress. Does she not either wear pyjamas sometimes or want to get dressed? The General manages to wear full dress uniform but she can't even put on some socks.

I like to tell myself that they made up the story about the tiger coming to tea because her mum went on a daytime wine bender and forgot to go to the shops.

And while we are at it. those STUPID books about transport modes - when did a train last go 'Toot, Toot' or a bike go 'pedal, pedal,pedal' - and the added hell is a son who really loves the book, knows it off by heart and has a dad who reads it to him religiously, so he knows when you try to correct the sh*t text ...

smartyparts Wed 19-Oct-11 13:22:53

I hate books that include singing bits and then you have to make up a tune. For example, the giants song in 'The Smartest Giant in Town'. Dh and I have totally different tunes, both equally tuneless!

ElaineReese Wed 19-Oct-11 13:23:11

Never liked the way every Mr Man seems to live in a Land of his own, which is entirely dictated by the particular personality trait which defines him. It doesn't make any sense!

Or when Mr Small finally gets to feel big when he meets Little Miss Tiny, who is the only person smaller than him.

Rhubarbgarden Wed 19-Oct-11 13:24:09

Oh yes yes yes re Bear Hunt. That book annoys me in so many ways. I thought the rest of the world loved it; I'm so relieved. I mean, it's not a blimmin' beautiful day if there's a snowstorm, is it?

We have a book called 'Puppies' where on every page all the puppies like doing something except one. But on the page where 'All puppies like to sniff. Except this one' it is not at all clear which one doesn't like to sniff as they are all apparently sniffing. Is it a trick? Is the text in the wrong place? Bugs me every time.

LimburgseVlaai Wed 19-Oct-11 13:25:43

In the Bear Hunt, after the deep cold river, the clothes are dry.

I love Winnie the Witch, but there is one picture that bugs me, in Winnie at the Seaside. Winnie's stuff is getting wet because of the rising tide, so she moves further up the beach. In fact, she moves to an entirely different section of the beach, with no people and a totally different backdrop. Then, in the next picture, she's back on the original crowded beach, shouting after her broomstick.

We have one of those annoying Thomas the Tank Engine books where you press a picture to get a sound ("Peep peep!"). This must be an American edition, because the story revolves around a kitten that has snuck into one of Thomas's cars.

The lions and tigers together used to really annoy me too, until we went to Cotswold Wildlife park and they have... Asiatic lions!
So, technically, they could be in the same rough environment...

DS came home with 'Counting on Pizza' last week - not only is it a shit story and mind-numbingly repetitive, but a) Mum says 'I'm sick of cooking, we're having pizza tonight and dad's paying' angry and b) he forgets his wallet hmm and she's only got about £2.50 but they still manage to buy some pizza. Just not one with three peppers on it (yet only four bits of pepperoni, five bits of ham... I could go on).

Takver Wed 19-Oct-11 13:27:48

This thread has made my day grin

Can I just add Richard Scary - yes, YOU Mr Scary:

In (I think) the Busy Busy World book the small creature (whose name I don't recall, as I refused to read the book more than once) saves a seed from his COOKED cob of sweetcorn, which he then plants and grows into a sweetcorn plant.

Psammead Wed 19-Oct-11 13:28:14

I usually change the 'too scary' snake reference in Dear Zoo to 'too scaly' although I am not sure something can really be 'too scaly'.

I don't mind the upside down wings in 'The Very Hungry Catepillar' but I do wish the butterfly was centered so its body was over the fold of the page so you could flap the book at the end to make it look as though it was flying. That makes me feel sad every time.

We have an alphabet book with items beginning with each letter on its pages. On one page it says 'ice lolly' and there is no ice lolly .


LimburgseVlaai Wed 19-Oct-11 13:33:58

Slightly off topic, but Charlie and Lola grrrrrrr: Lola never ever gets punished for all the havoc she wreaks. She breaks Charlie's special rocket, and all he does is say "Ah well, at least you owned up, I've mended it now so let's forget about it." Lola is a little princess spoiled brat and she sets a bad example!

Same with Spud in Bob the Builder. He breaks expensive equipment, ruins Farmer Pickles' harvest, and all he gets is a "Now now."

Peetle Wed 19-Oct-11 13:36:13

We have a picture book of the Three Little Pigs which completely misses out the rhyme "little pig, little pig, let me come in. Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin". I never quite understood the line when I was a kid but always liked it and duly insert it whenever I've been encouraged to read this volume.

One of the "It's The Bear" books, maybe the first one, features Timmy and his mummy having a picnic before being scared off by the bear. My three year old daughter spotted that mummy's hat disappears in one picture before reappearing in the next.

On the plus side, I do like the end of Peace At Last when Daddy finally has had no sleep and baby brings in the post, including a letter from the tax office (if you remember the old style HMRC franking on them).

Psammead Wed 19-Oct-11 13:39:37

It bothers me not one bit, but I sometimes imagine other MNers reading 'Monkey and Me'.

Monkey and me,
monkey and me,
monkey and me.

We went to see,
we went to see some...


and even worse, at the end,

... We went
Home for tea. (which was clearly either lunch or dinner and in no way involved a hot drink)

I imagine you spitting nails over the poor grammar and blatant working class status of the girl and her monkey. grin

silverten Wed 19-Oct-11 13:39:37

Aaargh books with songs in.

Try as I might I can't get a tune to go with Tabby McTat!

hackmum Wed 19-Oct-11 13:41:35

I have to agree that although I love the Mog books, the mum should really be quite cross with Mrs Thomas for not looking after her baby. (I can excuse the lack of seatbelts, though - perhaps written at a time when seatbelts weren't compulsory in the back seat?)

Here's another one that I could never stand once my DH had pointed out the error. It's called something like The Polar Bear and the Snowman. Every day the polar bear builds a snowman, and every morning he wakes up and finds it's melted. Except that none of the other snow has melted, just the snowman. So it doesn't make sense. You wonder why the copy editor didn't spot it.

Psammead Wed 19-Oct-11 13:42:16

ITNG annoys me with just one thing.

'Looking up, looking down, here and there and all....

about' ??????

Around! Why isn't it around? It sounds so much nicer. And it catches me out each and every time. <sob>

mumofthreekids Wed 19-Oct-11 13:42:35

Back on this fab thread and glad to see it has gained new fans since I left it last night.

JanePumpkin, apologies for my juxtaposition of 'veg' and 'a gaping hole'. In my defence I was able to drag my mind out of the gutter less perceptive than you and did not spot the potential for offensiveness here.

SmethWitchBelle, thank you for your interest in the plot of Meg's Veg. At the start of the book, Mog plants peas and carrots, Owl plants a pumpkin and Meg plants some seeds she finds in her cauldron - clearly these are destined to grow into something fabulous - I can hardly bear the suspense!! Then on the last page they harvest peas, carrots and a pumpkin. No further mention of Meg's seeds. Bitter disappointment (mine, not my DCs who have not noticed this.)

Agree about squeaking rabbits (that's MICE you're thinking of) and the water in the tap.

LimburgseVlaai Wed 19-Oct-11 13:42:57

We had a CD of the Smartest Giant, so I knew how the song went. And it was sung by Mr Carson, the butler in Downton Abbey!

hackmum Wed 19-Oct-11 13:43:00

Also, apropos of nothing in particular, I think The very hungry caterpillar is one of the most over-rated children's books of all time.

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers Wed 19-Oct-11 13:43:22

I have noticed this quite a few times, not just with children's books, eg on The Lovely Bones, the picture on the front is of the girl wearing a wooly hat, whereas it says in the story that she hates the hat and never wears it, but carries it in her pocket. Can't remember which other ones now but will have a think.

LimburgseVlaai Wed 19-Oct-11 13:45:39

On the subject of seatbelts, in Charlie and Lola the children are clearly not sitting in approved car seats. All they have is an adult seatbelt.

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers Wed 19-Oct-11 13:45:45

Agree with Psammead re: the butterfly wings in the VHC- that seemed so obvious to me!

etchasketch Wed 19-Oct-11 13:47:31

SmethWitchBelle: The Tiger Who Came to Tea! The BEST part of the story is where the mum is wildly explaining away the chaos- but the look on the fathers face is just BRILLIANT! how p*ssed off/fed up does he look?!!!!

CaptainNancy Wed 19-Oct-11 13:47:31

My shoulders are shaking whilst I sit at my desk laughing at all the bunny song re-writes! grin

ablative- I actually like the gruffalo fish, sorry blush but the 'squeaking' rabbit, yes <<sigh>>

smartypants I love making up tunes to singing bits- they are a permanent feature in our household, particularly the one in 'smartest giant', but also bits of tabby mctat (the brass band), and tiger who came to tea ('Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye').

psychicsatsuma - your name is fantastic! Snail and the whale is a little worthy, but I like the tale of the snails trying to better themselves... puts me in mind of ordinary working people in the late 19th/early 20th who were always marvellously well-read and accomplished in Art, performing arts, horticulture, or artisanal woodwork, despite having to work 10-12 hours a day, and not having a spare farthing, but always trying to improve themselves.

In my house the songs for all JD books are the same,no messing with tunefulness here

CaptainNancy Wed 19-Oct-11 13:51:15

Oh and psammead- I just flap the book anyway! grin

Psammead Wed 19-Oct-11 13:53:10

Monkey Puzzle.

'Mum's not black, and hairy and fat...'

What if she is??

That description must fit thousand upon thousands of mothers of slightly confused children.

Psammead Wed 19-Oct-11 13:53:58

CaptainNancy me too, but it looks as though the butterfly has a broken wing.

paddypoopants Wed 19-Oct-11 13:54:58

It really really bugs me that Maisie, Charlie, Cyril et al appear to live on their own in their houses yet they are clearly minors. They attend nursery, play games and for god's sake Cyril wets his trousers in the sandpit as he is having so much fun he forgets to go to the loo. Yet there Maisie is with panda baking stuff in a hot oven with no appropriate adult present.
I think someone should tell ss.

Psammead Wed 19-Oct-11 13:56:45

I just imagine a poor kindergarten teacher reading Monkey Puzzle and getting to that bit and some little child piping up 'mine is'. Disruption!

TheSmallClanger Wed 19-Oct-11 14:00:30

The lack of consistency in clothing requirements in the Little Bear stories annoyed me. Even DD cottoned on quite early that despite needing a coat (sometimes), Little Bear never had any pants on.
Mother Bear, on the other hand, is always fully dressed.

She also worked out that Winnie the Pooh is a flasher - he wears that red t-shirt and nothing else. Even more confusing is the fact that he doesn't wear any clothes at all in the original illustrations.

Andtheniwokeup Wed 19-Oct-11 14:01:39

Psammead I always think that as well - I am 2 out of 3 there and it's a bit close to the bone even for me!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Wed 19-Oct-11 14:01:51

"That's not my Monkey..."

that's because in a minimum of two of the pictures the "monkey" is clearly an ape.

mrshess Wed 19-Oct-11 14:03:34

I dont know if anyone has read Oliver Donnington Rimmington Sneep the boy who wouldnt sleep it rhymes on every page apart from 1 and it really bugs me and strikes me as lazy they couldnt come up with a rhyme for that page

beanandspud Wed 19-Oct-11 14:05:33

Here's how to sing the Smartest Giant song...

Giant Song

But it is clear that this chap isn't confident with the Tabby McTat song either...

Tabby McTat

Rhubarbgarden Wed 19-Oct-11 14:06:58

In 'Humphrey's Family', in the picture illustrating Humphrey having tea with Granny, it isn't Humphrey it's Baby Jack.

DrMunkenstein Wed 19-Oct-11 14:07:36

In the "That's Not My Monkey" book, several of the monkeys are actually apes.

This really bothers me!

Haberdashery Wed 19-Oct-11 14:08:48

I always assumed that the seeds out of the cauldron in Meg's Veg were the ones responsible for the terrifying crop of weeds.

Haberdashery Wed 19-Oct-11 14:09:30

I mean, she is clearly quite incompetent so it's quite appropriate that her special seeds turn out to be entirely useless.

mumofthreekids Wed 19-Oct-11 14:10:24

Hmm. Haberdashery I see your point. All that wasted energy fretting about it every time I read the book!

Haberdashery Wed 19-Oct-11 14:11:08

Fret no more, mumofthree!

PositivelyThrifty Wed 19-Oct-11 14:11:22

My ultimate pet peeve is things like "Moo moo cow!" Instead of "The cow says "moooo" " My daughter has a farm book with lots of things like that! I hate it!!


PastGrace Wed 19-Oct-11 14:11:49

Kate and Totem, they were my favourite bits of the Tiger Who Came to Tea. How exciting to be allowed out for dinner in your nightie! And what an adventure not having any water in the taps!

Clearly I had a very dull, naive childhood...

IWillOnlyEatBeans Wed 19-Oct-11 14:15:00

Rod Campbell's 'I'm Not Scary' - with the repeated line of 'touch me, I'm not scary'. In my head, I always have to say it in a scary paedo voice (but obviously I read it in a normal mummy voice so not to give DS nightmares).

bigbadbarry Wed 19-Oct-11 14:15:33

AblativeAbsolute re bear hunt, I always assumed they were all his children and the mum was away doing something boring like washing up or making tea. I have been known to get quite het up about how it is always daddy who gets to go on adventures.

silkenladder Wed 19-Oct-11 14:16:23

paddypoopants completely agree about Maisy. Maisy goes to nursery and sleeps with Panda and yet bakes gingerbread and uses domestic cleaning products unsupervised confused.

AKMD Wed 19-Oct-11 14:16:33

I have chucked books that calls animals rubbish like 'doggy' and 'horsie'. It's 'dog' and 'horse'.

Peachy Wed 19-Oct-11 14:16:42

'Imagine giving every small child who wrote to the zoo a vast collection of totally unsuitable animals. What's a 1 year old going to do with a lion?!

In the true spirit of this thread (why yes, I do have a nit picky brain) how many one year old children an write a letter to a zoo?

wink grin

AblativeAbsolute Wed 19-Oct-11 14:21:10

Monkey Puzzle again. I also love the line 'Bigger than you? Then I've seen your mum'. A slightly sarcastic tone works wonders grin.

festivalwidow Wed 19-Oct-11 14:23:36

Ooh, another one that niggles DH - how is it that Miffy can walk to the seaside, take a bus to see her friend, cycle to her aunt Alice's and take a train to the zoo, but the nearest playground is an hour's drive away?

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 14:23:43

Baby Lamb


I am an illustrator and am painstakingly particular that things are accurate (even though I draw in a very loose style) I don't always give people the right number of fingers mind you.

Psammead Wed 19-Oct-11 14:27:24

But, but...

The female in Bear Hunt is the mum, surely?

Blu Wed 19-Oct-11 14:29:34

Has anyone mentioned the pictures which show polar bears and penguins in the same icy landscape?

vogonmothership Wed 19-Oct-11 14:30:16

Maisy makes Gingerbread - no she doesn't, with those ingredients she makes a caca revolting mess.

Sorry if this has been mentioned, narks me so much I couldn't read whole thread!

AblativeAbsolute Wed 19-Oct-11 14:31:02

Blu the film of The Snowman does this too. Grrr.

frightstick Wed 19-Oct-11 14:32:47

Rhubarbgarden - we have that and I could never work it out either!

I always thought it was a deliberate attempt to convince sleep deprived mothers that they had lost all powers of rational thought grin

LiegeAndLief Wed 19-Oct-11 14:35:40

We have a cloth book about dinosaurs that has on the pterodactyl page: "Pteradodactyl swoops and soars above the other dinosaurs". Dh loathes it and always leaves out the "other".

Am very proud that ds reads Rumble in the Jungle as "Beware of the terrible tiger (although he shouldn't be here as he doesn't live in Africa), you don't always know when he's near..."

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 14:38:12

Isn't a Pteradodactyl a dinosaur then? I always thought it was....just a flying one...

LiegeAndLief Wed 19-Oct-11 14:40:36

No. It was a flying reptile, not a dinosaur (or so dh tells me - waits for paleontologist to come along and tell me I'm wrong...).

PootlingAndDoodling Wed 19-Oct-11 14:42:49


...<duly educated>

thederkinsdame Wed 19-Oct-11 14:45:34

The Tiger Who Came to Tea has always irritated me for the reasons given above - the water in the taps etc.

I would agree wholeheartedly about the penguins and polar bears. What annoys me more is obvious typos, appalling grammar and shoddy artwork. DS was given a Waybuloo (sp?) book recently. The artwork looked as if someone had taken photos from their TV. Terrible. And the story was dire. It went to the Oxfam bookshop!

JeanBodel Wed 19-Oct-11 14:47:12

I want to know exactly why it's not the mum in Bear Hunt. In this house, it's the mum.

Also, if we're talking about Dear Zoo, does anyone else have major problems when Buster goes looking for eggs with the ducks, but of course ducks don't have eggs... I have to quickly add in 'No HEN eggs here!'.

TheSmallBloodiedFingerPrint Wed 19-Oct-11 14:55:31

Apologies in advacne because I haven't read the whole of this thread but has anyone got The Highway Rat by JD? For the life of me I cannot get the scan on bit where 'the Highway Rat' is repeated three times and nor can DH.

(also I am an architect and never noticed the Squash and a Squeeze house blush)

silkenladder Wed 19-Oct-11 14:58:15

We once bought a set of mini Bob the Builder books to entertain DD on a ferry. The text appeared to have been written by an unpaid intern with a hangover while simultaneously uploading pictures of the previous night's drunken antics onto Facebook. Fortunately DD was more interested in trying to fit them all back into the cardboard sleeve than having them read to her, or DH and I may have felt compelled to throw ourselves overboard.

AddamsflimFlamily Wed 19-Oct-11 15:05:25

Silkenladder: mini Bob the Builder set, yes! haha. So much of the vocabulary is completely incomprehensible to young children - like describing one of them as 'enthusiastic' or another who likes 'playing practical jokes'. Eh? It's a toddler set with cardboard pages ffs. And they're so DULL, no story at all.

Arkady Wed 19-Oct-11 15:08:12

At the start of Meg on the Moon, Mog's birthday cake has three candles. At the end there are four candles.

But it's only a day trip isn't it?

AblativeAbsolute Wed 19-Oct-11 15:09:20

JeanBodel thank you! I've always read it to DS as (roughly) 'No eggs here - well, of course ducks do lay eggs, and you can eat them, but we don't usually have them for breakfast, or maybe the ducks hadn't laid any that day'. Your way is a little more elegant.

JeanBodel, duck eggs are delicious confused I get them from the market. A pair tried to nest in my Uncle's garden this year, my dad managed to rescue one of the eggs and fostered it out to a friend with an incubator. And this is a restaurant just up the road from me...

darksideofthemoonbells Wed 19-Oct-11 15:12:57

Another one that needs the apostrophe police - Lucy the Ladybird.

"I have learn't to fly"


AddamsflimFlamily Wed 19-Oct-11 15:13:03

The one that drives me demented is when the naughty wild animal who likes to kill and eat other animals, is by the end of the story, turned into a nice animal who lives alongside all the other animals in peace. BUT THEN WHAT IS IT SUPPOSED TO EAT? E.g. The Lion Who Wanted to Love - so he becomes a vegetarian, does he? And The Selfish Crocodile - ends his days eating weeds or something? The lion who wanted to love saves an antelope or something from a leopard that's hunting it - but then what about the poor leopard starving to death? It's obviously trying to teach children about being caring, but it's completely distorting the truth about nature and wildlife. Grrr.

LadyInPink Wed 19-Oct-11 15:15:49

Thanks beanandspud I now know that the tune to "The smartest giant in town" is pretty much what i sing anyway give or take grin Always think the rhyming in that book is for Southerners though as my Northern sounding mum pronounce Giraffe without an 'R' sound so Scarf doesn't rhyme at all - <ponders> do some people pronounce scarf, Scaf?

In "The tiger who came to tea" I always say 'mummy's wine' grin but never questioned the 'mum' in "Going on a bear hunt" was not the mum but did think she looked extremely youthful!

I too think the "Maisy" books/dvds are crackers with her hammering a bird table and going supermarket shopping with Charley but then cuddling up in bed with her panda.

Know there is more but must do the school run.

nickelbabe Wed 19-Oct-11 15:32:31

yy! giraffe with a scarf!
I didn't know it was supposed to rhyme, until I heard a local (to here) lady say the title - suddenly it clicked into place!
and I was shock
because that's not how everybody says it.

AKMD Wed 19-Oct-11 15:35:47

How can giraffe with a scarf not rhyme?! How are you saying giraffe? I say 'jih-RARf'.

nickelbabe Wed 19-Oct-11 15:36:29

are yo usouthern?
up north, we say "jir-affe"

bean612 Wed 19-Oct-11 15:37:13

YY to the Bear Hunt conundrum - have always wondered about the oldest girl/mum question, esp as she looks older on some pages than others.

And YYY to Mog and the Baby. I reckon Mrs Thomas is actually in the kitchen slowly emptying a bottle of gin while Mog does the babysitting. Sometimes the odd hic! can be heard in between words when I read it to DD.

But my personal bugbear also concerns the goose in What the Ladybird Heard - I don't mind it hissing instead of honking, but I do mind when it suddenly becomes geese at the very end - fair enough if the picture shows lots of them, but there's still only one. One with multiple personality disorder, perhaps.

jugglingwithpumpkins Wed 19-Oct-11 15:44:16

MrHeadlessMan on page 2 - Is that what happened with your head ?? grin

(Head blew off looking at fish on bicycle in DrSeuss ?)

.... Or do you have a thing about heads ? [Hmm]

AKMD Wed 19-Oct-11 15:44:34

I am. I don't like cucumber sandwiches though.

beanandspud Wed 19-Oct-11 15:50:50

I don't think that Mrs Thomas is all that bright though.

In Mog's Christmas she takes it upon herself to climb up a ladder onto the roof to take Mog his supper. If DH was having a strop I wouldn't be risking life and limb to deliver his dinner - never mind for a blooming cat!

nickelbabe Wed 19-Oct-11 15:50:57

well, there you go then grin

i'm northern and I like cucumber sandwiches.

SmallBloodied it's based on the poem 'The Highwayman' by Alfred Noyes. So the line with the repeated bit should take the same length of time as the rest of the lines. I read it with a beat of 4:

The HIGHway RAT came RIDing <pause>
RIDing <pause> RIDing <pause>
The HIGHway RAT came RIDing... Etc etc.

Hope that makes sense?

BelleEnd Wed 19-Oct-11 16:23:40

There's a Welsh picture book with the main character's name changing midway through (from Owain to Harri) and then back again!

xJessicasMummyx Wed 19-Oct-11 16:26:32

The upside down butteryfly wings in The Very Hungry Caterpillar reeeeealllly annoys me too! Glad i'm not the only one grin

TiggyD Wed 19-Oct-11 16:42:06

The Bear Hunt is wrong.

One minute they are going splash splosh through the river, the next minute there's a snow storm, hooo wooo! If it's cold enough to snow should they be going bare foot in the water?

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers Wed 19-Oct-11 16:43:01

What about 'Arthur' (in books and on CBBC) where they are all animals (I think Arthur and his family are meant to be aardvaarks (Canadian ones at that), his best friend is a Rabbit and yet he has a pet dog, and his friend has a pet cat. confused

ThePsychicSatsuma Wed 19-Oct-11 17:09:48

don't forget the gruffalo christmas ornament on the tree in stick man

FlightofFancy Wed 19-Oct-11 17:12:23

YY on so many of these.

I've got particular issues about 'That's not my monkey', so normally read it with different emphasis - 'That's not my Monkey, because it's my gorilla' etc.

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks about myxomatosis with sleeping bunnies...

Thanks so much to the poster who mentioned the 'Puppies' book - oddly we have it in Italian (emergency purchase on holiday day trip where DS posted only book down air-con vent on ferry - don't ask), and while I don't speak Italian I'd managed to sort of translate most of it, but couldn't work out the first page - sniffing makes sense!!

ThePsychicSatsuma Wed 19-Oct-11 17:17:49

and Richard Scarry - amazing books., littered with errors
eg. letter 'g' s hi-lighted, at least 6 missed off page....
But they are so wonderful I forgive them.

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers Wed 19-Oct-11 17:20:58

Richard Scarry is another one who has animals with pets!

TheSmallBloodiedFingerPrint Wed 19-Oct-11 17:22:01

thank you TheJoyfulPuddlejumper I am sitting here saying it out loud to myself but it still sounds weird.

TeamEdward Wed 19-Oct-11 17:36:55

During my PGCE, I attended a lecture all about "reading" pictures in picture books, and about how young children are often more in tune with the book as they don't have to worry about the words
So, IMHO, Frightstick's son is correct. "Although DS1, who is 5, announced last week that he thinks they didn't go on a bear hunt at all, but were under the covers the whole time, and Daddy was just telling them all a story about the teddy bear."
I think the daughter/wife is the wife actually. I think the family depicted is that of Michael Rosen, the author, and in other Rosen family illustrations the wife is younger and blonde wishful thinking maybe?.

As for The Tiger Who Came To Tea, it doesn't matter that the tiger cannot possibly drink all the water from the tap. The tiger tale is a cover-up, a little white lie told by the girl and Mummy to hide the fact they have done little else all day but piss around NOT preparing Daddy's tea. That is why Daddy takes them all out straight away. You will see some knowing looks passing between Daddy and Mummy...

notasupermummy Wed 19-Oct-11 17:53:51

In my version of the book, my surprise is that there is no mirror!!!sad

MsPrufrock Wed 19-Oct-11 17:57:03

rhubarbgarden- we have the Puppies book. The puppy who doesn't like to sniff is the one with the bee on his nose; he's scared he'll get stung!

The rest of this thread is brilliant. I detest the 'That's not my...' series, not because they are dull (god, they are, though) but instead because they are inaccurate. 'That's definitely not my kitten. Not because it's nose is too smooth (WTF? Do I spend all day stroking kittens' noses, grading them like sandpaper from smooth to very abrasive?!) but because it clearly looks NOTHING like my kitten. It is a totally different colour, just for a start.'

BoffinMum Wed 19-Oct-11 18:01:05

Angelina Ballerina books are just so wrong on many levels. But the fact the ribbons are tied wrong on her shoes in every single picture makes me see red (i.e. they are not tucked in as they should be). I'm a bit of a pedant like that.

aliceliddell Wed 19-Oct-11 18:02:44

Haven't read this all properly, but has anyone pointed out that the Hungry Caterpillar should have one food source, not just any old bit of veg lying around? Gah.

ZonkedOut Wed 19-Oct-11 18:12:25

I identify with quite a few of these pedantic posts!

My personal bugbear is in Guess How Much I Love You In The Spring. Little Nutbrown Hare asks what an egg turns into, Big Nutbrown Hare says, "A bird". "A big big bird?" "Well, a grown up bird". No no no, an egg turns into a baby bird, not a grown up bird.

Arkady Wed 19-Oct-11 18:14:22

Don't even consider reading any of the Little Red Train books. Beautiful drawn. Utterly adored by kids who like trains. Great for talking together about the pictures, finding new details, pondering at length together to increase verbal skills, etc etc.
But DH and I have now spent half an hour straight listing wrongness. (The geography in Green Light for example.) You would all grind your teeth down to nothing.

DesertOrchid Wed 19-Oct-11 18:15:54

My 'Look There's a Baby' had a surprise mirror ending: there was no mirror...

gnushoes Wed 19-Oct-11 18:31:47

A debi gliori book that rhymed bees and geese. Haven't got over it 10 years on. Should get out more.

boohoobabywho Wed 19-Oct-11 18:46:56

i have a problem with some of the books DD brings home from school. One in reception was about goldilocks and the three bears and started... when the bears found out about what golidlocks had done to thier house they decided to follow her and trash her house.

Another said there was no tooth fairy- her blumming teeth hadnt even fallen out yet and she had already been told in a blumming book with blumming pitctures that they dont exist and its really your mum or dad.

then there was the fat elephant who tried to diet, but kept cheating and failing, and decided she was happy being fat!

OOOOHHHH dont even get me started on the Blummin Jackie Wilson books. who btw is the biggest hippocrite on Gods sweet earth. She said that children behave appalingly and just because she writes about appaling children doesnt mean that she agrees with it! WTF... give them some good role models then you ninny..

And Breathe.....blush

Hulababy Wed 19-Oct-11 18:50:51

Winnie the Witch anyone?

The picture of inside Winnie's house at the start of the book is different to the one at the back - the bathroom and bedroom are the wrong way round.

Korky Paul said, at a reading we went to, it was a mistake, an accident.

BertieBotts Wed 19-Oct-11 19:20:29

We had "Look there's a baby" (with surprise dodgy fairground mirror) and something which had inexplicable repitition in (Can you find your nose, nose, nose?) in our bookstart pack. The Can you find your... book says on the back that babies will love the surprise mirror ending, but no mirror in that one at all. Just wondered if those with the Look there's a baby mirror missing had one in there? Maybe they were going to put one in both and then ran out of money grin

Apols if this has already been said but Mog & the Baby was written in 1980 hence lack of seatbelts and the fish as catfood. And possibly the laid back approach to babysitting, though, er, perhaps not going that far!

I'm confused - our version of Stick Man has a foot coming down the chimney, not a hand. Have they changed it?

ThePsychicSatsuma Wed 19-Oct-11 19:36:41

hee hee Tiger Came to Tea; when she's all sober again in the morning, mummy scuttles off to the supermarket, all efficient. Have to restock after that dang tiger...!
<vomits in gutter walking to safeway>

mousyfledermaus Wed 19-Oct-11 19:52:48

next when santa sits on the floor in front of the fireplace he has the claws out.

vincentvangogh Wed 19-Oct-11 20:00:01

I have a big problem with Winnie the Witch. If everything's black, how come we can see anything at all? There's far too much detail in the illustrations for the stuff to be exactly the same shade of black and just different textures. You'd need fantastic lighting to show so much detail.

<rereads what I've just written and thinks I need to find another thread where I won't embarrass myself>

mumofthreekids Wed 19-Oct-11 20:18:55

Arkady, don't you think that the geography in Green Light for the Little Red Train is sooooo weong it almost becomes right??

mumofthreekids Wed 19-Oct-11 20:19:19

or maybe so wrong it becomes weong...

Fishandjam Wed 19-Oct-11 20:33:05

A little cheapy lift-the-flap book DS has always annoys me. It's called "What's in the Jungle?" and contains the following schoolboy errors:

1. Putting a toucan next to the giraffe. (And do not get me started on picture books which have penguins and polar bears in close juxtaposition.)
2. On the subject of the giraffe - it is generally a savannah/plains animal, not jungle.
3. Ditto zebra for point no 2
4. One of the animals, rather randomly, is an armadillo. Some species do indeed live in the jungle but the one depicted is the type that lives in the desert areas of southern USA.

Otherwise, it's fine. I could always use the Monty Python excuse - "must have escaped from a zoo!"

<adjusts specs, grabs pedant cuddle toy, leaves>

openerofjars Wed 19-Oct-11 20:43:44

I love the wine bottles littering the track in the Little Red Train books. grin

We have a very soppy book about baby animals going to sleep in (generic) Africa which contains the line, "Zebras lay panting, tired out from their play", when the rest of the text is in the present tense. Grr.

BridgetBust Wed 19-Oct-11 20:58:57

I may be able to enlighten some of you; in the stage play of We're Going On A Bear Hunt, the opening scene reveals that the mother has died.

Silverlace Wed 19-Oct-11 21:18:10

I refused to buy a Baby Einstein book once as it has a passage in about a cow and referred to the cow as a he.

<<hires a skip, will never be able to read most of these books again>>

gilmoregirl Wed 19-Oct-11 21:30:53

Love this thread!

The thing I notice in Squash and a Squeeze was that the egg that the hen laid that was cracked looked like a fried egg - the egg white looked cooked not clear..... will look more closely at the house next time. DS and I are very familar with how the songs go though as have been to see the fabulous Julia and her bonkers somewhat eccentric husband perform them at book festival events (which I cannot recommend highly enough)

I did notice the way Winnie's house changed in the Winnie the witch book too.

Agree re the Little Red train green light book - one minute they are in Italy the next scandanavia????

In the Alfie books I think that Maureen is Mrs Macnally's "big girl" daughter - I think it is in the one where Alfie gets locked in the house and also in the one with the birthday kitten - love love love those books!

stickylittlefingers Wed 19-Oct-11 21:39:45

gilmoregirl - yep, we were reading the Alfie gets stuck in the house one this evening, and Maureen is Mrs MacNally's big girl daughter. I love the birthday kitten one too (very useful when the family cat died too).

BatmanLovesRobin Wed 19-Oct-11 21:42:38

Where are Charlie and Lola's parents? Why have Social Care not been informed of their absence by school?

And this stupid idea that every farmer has every type of farm animal - that's not a farm, it is a petting Zoo !!!

ningthemerciless Wed 19-Oct-11 21:45:37

Psammead - the pop up version of the h c does have the butterfly in the middle of the page so you can flap it.

The driver dan story train books always end with 'well that was great, how about a story'. Err...

Takver Wed 19-Oct-11 21:49:38

fleshwound - never play the board game Agricola - it really bugs me that you have to have some of every animal and grow every type of crop to get points! DD always trys to specialise as a sheep farmer and loses as a result grin

TheSmallClanger Wed 19-Oct-11 21:51:14

The oldest female character in Bear Hunt is either the nanny, or a relative who probably babysits a lot. I think.

MrsLevinson Wed 19-Oct-11 21:55:02

Now, it's been a long day and I'm rather tired, but I can't for the life of me see what's wrong with the layout of the house in A Squash and a Squeeze. Please will someone enlighten me so that I can stop looking and get to bed?
Also, in my version of Stick Man there is no green claw, just a foot poking down the chimney.

AblativeAbsolute Wed 19-Oct-11 22:03:54

Thanks for the possible explanation, Bridget. Rather poignant if the mother has died (though I still think the daughter is too old - but the babysitter explanation is one I hadn't thought of before).

Inspired by this thread, I did A Squash and a Squeeze as DS1's bedtime story tonight. Yes, quite right about the dodgy architecture, but JD is exonerated with regard to the teapot continuity error. We see the original teapot in the process of falling off the table in one scene, so presumably it smashed and the old lady dug out her spare one for the later scenes.

AblativeAbsolute Wed 19-Oct-11 22:05:12

MrsLevinson in the interior scenes, the window is on the opposite wall from the door. But when you see the house from the outside, the window is adjacent to the door. I assume that's what everyone's talking about, anyway!

MrsLevinson Wed 19-Oct-11 22:10:20

Now I wondered about that but thought it was the other side of the house?!

ZombieWhirl Wed 19-Oct-11 22:15:15

What about animals in story books that are friends with with animals that IRL they would EAT. Bugs the bejesus out of me everytime.

So second rate; no that fox is not friends with the duck. That duck is toast.

Likewise cuddly polar bears. No, they eat people.


Bousy Wed 19-Oct-11 22:41:18

Brilliant thread. My pet hate is childrens' stories with continuity errors; it's only short, how hard can it be to keep the narrative straight?

When reading 'Look, there's a baby' I always amend the ending to 'Look, there's a baby a bit like you' to compensate for the wobbliness of the mirror.

Hopefully this link should help with the phrasing of The Highway Rat. Ah, Gilbert...

HerdOfTinyElephants Wed 19-Oct-11 22:48:14

AddamsflimFlamily, I think you would enjoy There's a Hair in My Dirt .

I saw a book in a gift shop this week about an owl who lives in the wood, looking after all the small furry delicious animals and keeping them safe. Hmmm...

CaptainNancy Wed 19-Oct-11 22:49:39

The larder cannot be in the place it appears to be, for it would jut out of the house in the pictures of the outside, but it does not.

CristinaaarghdellAaarghPizza Wed 19-Oct-11 23:06:37

I'm going to have to dig out squash and squeeze when I go to bed now to have a look. Damn you all!

ASuitableGirl Wed 19-Oct-11 23:11:14

I have realised that possibly I am not as much of a pedant as I believed as I have spotted very few of these mistakes/inconsistencies for myself blush.

DS always used to get sad at the end of Bear Hunt (think he got moved to tears on more than one occasion).

FessaEst Wed 19-Oct-11 23:14:35

YY to the water issue in "The Tiger...", that bothered me even as a child!

My particular problem is in Room on the Broom, when the bow is returned, and it says that she ties her hair in a bow, and I always think the bow would be much better. Small but it gets me everytime!

MamaMaiasaura Wed 19-Oct-11 23:15:40

Mrs levinson - the green claw is on page with Santa out of chimney and it's very claw like eek

FessaEst Wed 19-Oct-11 23:15:49

& in "The Ticklemonster" - tickly does not rhyme with sticky!

AScatteringofPoorSardines Thu 20-Oct-11 00:21:05

I feel so much less alone grin

We have The Princess and The Wizard by Julia Thingumyjig and it drives me mad that the princess changes herself into a blue fish and hides in the moat where all the other blue fish are and yet the wizard can still find her, not by wizardy recognising magic, oh no, but because the magic book tells him she is a blue fish in the moat. It doesn't tell him which blue fish.
DD- but how does he know which one she is Mummy? There are loads of blue fish.
Me- I think he can tell by her eyelashes
DD- would he be able see eyelashes through the water then? Why didn't she hide in some weed, he wouldn't see her eyelashes then.
Me- this faceconfused

Same with the chicks- there are loads of them, how can he tell?

oxeye Thu 20-Oct-11 00:34:45

oh the claw like hands in Stick Man - I think it is a happy flaw, poor Axel Schaffer clearly can't draw hands - if you look in his other books he always hides them, only he couldn't with Santa so weirdy claws are the result! I like it, makes me feel generally better that he's not perfect

And ::sad person alert:: I once listened to a whole programme on Going on a Bear Hunt - the bear wandering off at the end is a "poignant coda" or some such to the story:
Was he going off sadly alone?
Is he meant to represent the fact that that which we fear has feelings too?
Was he going home after a lovely tea and a play?
Is he merely slopey shouldered, not sad?

All sorts of possibilities, you see? I like to think he's going back to his bear family after a long day playing with the Hunt family grin

I'm with TeamEdward on Bear Hunt - it's a game they're playing. No actual bear!

Doitnicelyplease Thu 20-Oct-11 02:22:06

Can't believe people get annoyed at Tiger came to Tea "drank all the water in the tap" is meant to be funny/silly, BECAUSE we know it is not really possible, how you can be pedantic about that when the whole story is ridiculous!

Also isn't the Bear Hunt story based on a very old marching rhyme/song, sung by cubs? I always thought it was a Dad with his kids and I like the idea that they are in bed telling the story.

sleepywombat Thu 20-Oct-11 04:35:19

Agree, Doitnicelyplease, could never get annoyed with 'water in the tap' - remember finding it amusing as a small child. Never realised 'cocoon' was wrong in Hungry Caterpillar either, but then I gave up school science as soon as I could.

Love, love, love Tiger Who Came to Tea. My main childhood fantasy was going out in my nightie & wellies to a restaurant. So exciting! Still wouldn't mind.

Always assumed big girl in Bear Hunt was daughter (as looks far too young to be mum), but babysitter makes sense too.

Are you supposed to sing 'Monkey Puzzle'? Assume just the bits in italics? I always do, to the tune of, 'Hush little baby', but slip up at some bits & end up repeating/changing tune.

I get slightly annoyed about all the 'jungle' animals lumped together, but a bit hypocritical of me, as when I sing 'Old MacDonald', he has snakes & monkeys on his farm (stick to animals for which ds knows the noises).

Bubbaluv Thu 20-Oct-11 05:14:30

ElaineReece my DS had the same issue with The Tiger That Came To Tea, but I explained to him that they were on tank water so it was indeed possible. Makes more sense if it were set in Australia.

Bubbaluv Thu 20-Oct-11 05:25:14

I have to put on an American accent to read Lama Lama Red Pyjama - otherwise the rhymes don't work properly.

iskra Thu 20-Oct-11 05:44:58

Amazed nobody has mentioned the lack of punctuation in Meg and Mog stories. Not a full stop to be seen, but there is the odd colon!

BridgetBust Thu 20-Oct-11 06:48:48

How are you able to accept that a tiger might come to tea and NOT eat his hosts but get in a tizzy about drinking all the water from the tap? Maybe tiger guests are a frequent occurence in your households ...

VioletNotViolent Thu 20-Oct-11 07:09:15

I haven't read the thread so forgive me if I'm repeating anything



Sorry for shouting. Just wanted to be clear.

Oh, and, by the way, Pluto is not a planet.

ElaineReese Thu 20-Oct-11 09:06:17

Because the point of the story is the juxtaposition of the fanciful (tiger to tea) with the mundane - all the packets of spaghetti and the buns and so on. So plumbing should still work according to the rules of the real world!

birdsofshoreandsea Thu 20-Oct-11 09:08:26

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

mousyfledermaus Thu 20-Oct-11 09:20:37

but pluto was (classed) as a planet until a couple of years ago. publishers can be forgiven for not updating their books, I think.

my ds has a science picture book about the universe and planet earth. they are so full of mistakes, or rather false simplifications. I always have to correct, it really grates.

maybe I should write to the publisher.
has anyone done that and got a reply?

nickelbabe Thu 20-Oct-11 09:49:01

besides which, a lot of us refuse to downgrade Pluto in our minds.
I wouldn't be upset if it said "planet" rather than "dwarf planet"

PootlingAndDoodling Thu 20-Oct-11 09:50:41

What was the one about a rabbit on a motorbike that got turned into a grinch-like thing by a witch - no redemption, no chance to turn back etc. - terrified DS2 when he was little...

onefatcat Thu 20-Oct-11 09:55:20

OHH!! Little Rabbit Foo Foo!! We loved that one- he did have lots of chances to change though, I think he deserved what he got! grin

"Little rabbit Foo Foo, riding through the forest, scooping up the wiggly worms and bopping them on the head"

Ha ha ha!

PootlingAndDoodling Thu 20-Oct-11 10:04:28

That's it - thanks grin

I'd forgotten he was so horrid!

FaithfullBorderBinLiner Thu 20-Oct-11 10:21:32

The Tiger Who Came to Tea - spoiler, it isn't happy...

Judith Kerr lived in Germany pre WWII and the Tiger Who Came to Tea is the story of her family fleeing to London. So the Tiger came took away all the food, nice beer, etc, turned the water off at the mains, etc. Daddy bundled them up and shipped them out so quickly that the little girl had to leave behind her pink rabbitt - but that is another story. The happy ending is that the family prepared for the Tiger coming back but he never did.

Peetle Thu 20-Oct-11 10:33:06

I frequently get requests for Little Rabbit Foo Foo from DT1. We are both bothered by the page with the tigers; the text may say "scooping up all the tigers" but his net/bag is clearly far too small for anything larger than a cub.

I quite like the book otherwise - he gets enough chances to mend his ways and when he doesn't the fairy godmother clouts him with her handbag. A lesson in personal responsibility...

ThePsychicSatsuma Thu 20-Oct-11 10:54:56

re; squash and a squeeze -

her spare teapot?
grin I havent got a spare, considered myself quite posh just having the one...

VioletNotViolent Thu 20-Oct-11 12:16:49

Yeah I'll give you that re Pluto/books published before it was 'downgraded'.

Pluto is not a planet though. If Pluto is a planet there are a hell of a lot of other planets being discovered in the solar system.grin

Anyway it's the penguins & polar bears thing that REALLY bugs me!

frightstick Thu 20-Oct-11 12:19:45

I'm finding dinosaurs a tricky one these days. I finally come to terms with the demise of the brontosaurus but we have a multitude of books, some of which have feathered velociraptors, some scaly. Good for explaining scientific discovery to DS but tricky nonetheless.

I also demand Stephen Spielberg goes back and digitally adds feathers to Jurassic Park.

LegoundertheInstep Thu 20-Oct-11 12:32:43

Nice big plain simple fonts for me, AND the right way up! We want them to learn to read, don't we, so why make it more difficult? I don't mind about the pictures or plot errors though - it give you an extra thing to talk about!

coraltoes Thu 20-Oct-11 12:45:08

Can anyone share how they say peepo? I sound so odd saying it that i switch it to peekaboo.

Most annoying book has to be Wendy the wide mouthed frog. I cannot do a hand puppet, turning pages AND wrestling things out of DDs mouth!

BertieBotts Thu 20-Oct-11 13:22:57

I find "peekaboo" sounds odd to me. Probably because it was always "Peepo" when I was little.

nickelbabe Thu 20-Oct-11 13:27:28

i say peekaboo, but for Peepo I seem to end up pronouncing it "peebo"

I hate those books with the hand puppet - fantastic in principle, really, i do love them, but I can't twist them round without thinking i'm going to rip the cloth off!

Arkady Thu 20-Oct-11 13:36:09

More Tiger Came to Tea. Personally, I'm with ElaineReese on the factual accuracy facilitating suspension of disbelief in fantasy. But not with Faithful about the origin of the plot, as Judith Kerr herself disputed that in an interview in the Guardian this year

When I wrote The Tiger Who Came to Tea, my husband, Tom, was very busy, so my daughter Tacy and I used to get bored, I suppose. We'd been to the zoo and thought the tigers were ravishing. It started as a bedtime story that I made up for her, partly because Tom was so busy, and I think we thought it would be nice if somebody came. It seemed to be a good idea if it was a tiger. Later, after the book was published, people said, was it a reference to the Gestapo? But I never thought about the tiger being dangerous. But I did think that if a tiger came, it would eat a lot.

Kingsroadie Thu 20-Oct-11 13:49:19

Charlie and Lola using "I", instead of "me" or vice versa. Drives me bonkers.

I always think Peepo is based in London at the start of the War so children haven't yet been evacuated...

Kingsroadie Thu 20-Oct-11 13:50:16

Plus actually, children didn't have to be evacuated and some did stay with their parents, so maybe that? grin

mummytime Thu 20-Oct-11 13:52:43

My family we'ren't evacuated, they told great stories about lessons in the corridors, going down to the shelter and putting the door back on in the morning. I really thought of them in those photos (the baby is my Uncle).

mummytime Thu 20-Oct-11 13:55:40

Oh and Peepo isn't that rather American? I did find that odd, I pronounce it peepO.

CristinaaarghdellAaarghPizza Thu 20-Oct-11 13:56:09

My mum and dad both used to dawdle to school (different schools!) in case the sirens went off on the way - as long as they were outside the school gates, they could leg it back to the shelter at home. And my mum and her brother used to chase the paths of the doodlebugs shock

Puts helicopter parenting into perspective a bit grin

Kingsroadie Thu 20-Oct-11 13:59:16

mummytime - the baby in Peepo? That's so sweet! Yes, I say peepO (ie short peep, long oh), but if playing with my daughter I might say peek-a-boo (is that also American?)

Chase the paths of doodlebugs - my word! Just remarkable how different those childhoods would have been to ours and our children's. So brave.

I can't believe that with all the dinosaur pedantry on here, nobody's mentioned the fact that cavemen and dinosaurs clearly should not be able to steal each other's underpants!

Like somebody else (can't remember who, sorry), I hate "The Selfish Crocodile" for completely messing up the ecosystem once the crocodile gets "nice". I also can't stand books that don't scan, or which have really tortured rhymes. A lot of Dr Seuss bugs me because it doesn't rhyme in RP.

mousyfledermaus Thu 20-Oct-11 15:00:34

yes to dr seuss not rhyming. always have to dig out my fake american accent for that. or let the ipad read it to the dc.

brdgrl Thu 20-Oct-11 15:55:07

goodnight moon! every time you see the room, and when it says
"and two little kittens
and a pair of mittens"
the mittens are on a drying rack, with two socks pegged up next to them.

but on the page that says
"goodnight mittens"
the mittens are shown in the close-up detail drawing, and now they are on a rack by themselves - no socks.

annoys me.

ElephantsAndMiasmas Thu 20-Oct-11 16:04:38

Unfortunately Peepo! always reminds me of this.

Bearcrumble Thu 20-Oct-11 16:51:32

In Dear Zoo the grumpy animal is a dromedary. Not a camel. It only has one hump.

WillowFae Thu 20-Oct-11 17:07:36

poster AScatteringofPoorSardines it always annoys me that when the spell is broken and the parents come alive again they wonder where their daughter is. Does the fairy tell them to put them out of their misery? No! She just turns and winks and smiles at the reader because SHE knows what happened!

That bit never really made sense to me.

WhoIsThatMaskedWoman Thu 20-Oct-11 17:20:42

Coming late to this thread, but I thought that it was completely unneccessary for the play of Bear Hunt to have the children saying "I miss Mum" (with the clear implication that Mum is dead). If my DCs had asked I would have explained that Mum is obviously away for the week visiting Aunty Ethel, who is recovering from a hip replacement. Actually what annoys me most about Bear Hunt is the writing credit to Michael Rosen. Ditto Little Rabbit Foo Foo "by" Michael Rosen. I've got a brilliant idea for a rhyming book - it's called "London Bridge Is Falling Down", can I have my cheque now?

Oh and count us in with the Very Hungry Caterpillar haters - I didn't spot the upside-down wings for the first fifty times because I was reading it upside down while DD was in her high chair, but I was FURIOUS when I finally noticed. DH gets genuinely cross about the legs on the caterpillar - it's a bloody insect, how difficult is it to give it 6 legs?

FaithfullBorderBinLiner Thu 20-Oct-11 17:53:17

Arkady - more Tiger

I read this in the Guardian and assumed...

BootyMum Thu 20-Oct-11 18:17:02

This is so funny! I just bought "A Squash and a Squeeze" today!

But cannot see the issue with perspective blush

Surely it is just there is more than one door and window in the house?

But, yes, the teapot does change pattern!

Famous Five: Isn't it George's mother who is a Kirrin, because her family have owned the home for generations. So did George's father take the maternal surname. and which of George's parents is sibling to the other three's parent?

most historical films, including Horrible Histories, set the historical action in Corsican Pine plantations. The trees are all in straight lines! I don't think that's historically accurate; were there any such plantations planted before the 1920s. Or oak underplanted with hazel pre Napoleonic era?

mumofthreekids Thu 20-Oct-11 18:29:08

AblativeAbsolute solved the teapot issue on p12 of this thread

AblativeAbsolute Thu 20-Oct-11 18:54:32

I agree with the upside down wings on the butterfly, but I don't mind the random number of legs on the caterpillar. I wasn't sure why I didn't mind, but I've just found the answer:

"A caterpillar has six true legs on its thorax (it is an insect) but it also has prolegs. These are protruding parts of the abdomen that function like legs (but aren't jointed in the way the true legs are). Different species of caterpillar have different numbers of prolegs."

This is why caterpillars can often look like they've got lots of legs.

mousyfledermaus Thu 20-Oct-11 19:10:46

twocute when we were holidaying in crete, we visited some roman ruins in an olive plantation. the ancient trees were standing in lines, just like a modern orchard.

desertgirl Thu 20-Oct-11 19:13:31

Bearcrumble, a dromedary is a type of camel, not a separate species.

I live in the Middle East; there are a lot of 'dromedaries' out here and nobody ever, ever, calls them anything other than 'camel' or the Arabic equivalent (jamal).

The two humped camel is a Bactrian camel, but I don't think it gets called that terribly often either.

stickylittlefingers Thu 20-Oct-11 19:16:29

What do you call a camel with one hump - a Dromedary

What do you call a camel with two humps - a Bactrian

What do you call a camel with three humps - Humphrey!

Sorry, saw desert girl's post in active condos and it reminded me of DD's favourite joke...

WhoIsThatMaskedWoman Thu 20-Oct-11 19:17:18

Ah now, I've looked at the book and remembered the details of DH's insanely petty objection. Eric Carle has given the caterpillar two pairs of legs at the front and one at the back, when he should actually have given it three pairs of real legs at the front, then some prolegs on the abdomen and maybe a pair of anal prolegs right at the back.

He wishes to point out that he's not an entomologist; he just gets cross easily.

I say peepo changing intonation, so pee is high and po is low- but it sounds more like bee- bow

Indaba Thu 20-Oct-11 20:10:19

Charlie and Lola are feral children. Their use of the English language is an abomination.

And they don't eat their greens.

Nuff said.

hackmum Thu 20-Oct-11 20:28:33

@`Whoisthatmaskedwoman. "Actually what annoys me most about Bear Hunt is the writing credit to Michael Rosen." Yes! I remember a group of boys used to recite "We're going on a bear hunt" story (though they called it "We're going on a lion hunt" on a school bus in my teens. They would all fall about laughing when they got to the bit where they said, "It's a lion - aaargh!"

onlyaname Thu 20-Oct-11 20:48:24

I agree about the house in a Squash and a Squeeze. But the one I have really studied is Each Peach Pear Plum. I refer back to the drawing on the inside cover to check where exactly the action is taking place. It's pretty accurate!

As for The Smartest Giant my DD turns the page before I can even start singing!

I hate the rhyme on the last page of Giraffes can't Dance. Too many words in the first lines and it doesn't scan. I hate reading it.

ninjasquirrel Thu 20-Oct-11 20:53:26

Having read most of this thread I can't believe no one else seems irritated by the way half the lines don't scan in Squash and a Squeeze. I keep having to put words in or take words out!

YY to upside down butterfly though.

BlathersFright Thu 20-Oct-11 21:07:18

I used to get narked at the Dromedary in Dear Zoo too until I looed it up and realised that it was just a type of Camel - a bit like a Dalmation and a Labrador are types of Dog. I now just call it a Camel.

The snake has to be too "slithery" though as I don't want the DCs assuming Snakes are scary.

ItchyChin Thu 20-Oct-11 21:09:07

Fantastic thread. Yes I do find A squash and a squeeze doesn't scan well. Yes I spent at least 10 minutes searching for the ladybird on EVERY page in What the Ladybird Heard.

I used to think I'd not read The Tiger Who Came To Tea as a child but the frisson of excitement imagining going out to tea IN THE DARK (!), and in a NIGHTIE (!) is coming back to me.

My Smartest Giant in Town song is a very similar tune to the youtube link - hurray!

Currently reading The Cat in the Hat Came Back - as a bedtime story every night! Bit of a marathon! Also have to pronounce 'zed' 'zee' all probably very confusing! Also anyone else pretend they are on Cbeebies or Jackanory (shows age) when they read stories and try not to stumble?!

Underconstruction Thu 20-Oct-11 21:17:03

When DD1 was into counting everything we started counting the "ten little girls in two straight lines"... turns out old Ludwig wasn't very good at keeping track of his rows of little girls (or boys)... sometimes he loses a couple, sometimes he gains a couple. (What would be worse on a school trip, losing a couple or gaining them?)

Mummytime - Peepo is English, peekaboo is American... very clumsy in my opinion!

ThePsychicSatsuma Thu 20-Oct-11 21:29:33

it's not fair. Both Pluto and Goofy are dogs...yet one is a pet and one is a man...

ThePsychicSatsuma Thu 20-Oct-11 21:30:11

and for the love of crackers what animal is Pete?
cat? wolf? yet another dog? some kind of boar?

Itchy I do the pretend CBeebies bedtime story thing!

I'd be rubbish. They would not hire me. Fortunately, I am not a professional actress...

leftangle Thu 20-Oct-11 21:31:11

DD thought she spotted an error in an first bible stories book
...and Jesus told them to walk on the good road...
They shouldn't walk on the road that's for the cars, they should go on the pavement. I'm struggling to explain that one to her.

We have a book where the rabbit farmers keep chickens and have eggs and bacon for breakfast.

MuddlingThru Thu 20-Oct-11 21:35:37

Cat in the Hat - it clearly states 'our mother was out of the house for the day', there are clearly no other adults within the house. Makes me want to call Social Services everytime I read it.

northernrock Thu 20-Oct-11 21:45:46

Bear Hunt is SO obviously a man with a bunch of kids-his kids! I don't get why some on here find that so hard to understand!!??

Elmer the effin Elephant gets right on my tits. So, Elemer is best buds with a lion, a tiger and a rabbit..?
In fact I hate the way almost all books for under 3's are about pissing Jungle animals. Who don't eat each other. Grrr.

AblativeAbsolute Thu 20-Oct-11 21:52:08

MaskedWoman your husband sounds fab smile.

brdgrl Thu 20-Oct-11 22:02:06

This is not an error.
But DH bought Each Peach Pear Plum for DD when I was pregnant. She's never seen it, though, because of the hunting scene.

Why does this bother me so? It's not as if I intend to conceal the existence of hunters, real or fictional, from her forever. Anyone else find it off-putting?

ItchyChin Thu 20-Oct-11 22:04:51

Pete is a cat - I know because they tell me on Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. He however looks nothing like a cat.

Iggly Thu 20-Oct-11 22:26:58

I find squash and a squeeze does scan - didn't at first but does after a few reads. The house thing did bug me!

I bought DS a peppa pig book the other day and there's a stray "very" in a sentence - unfortunately the book is in DS's room so can't check

Someone mentioned brown bear brown bear upthread because of the blue horse. It also has a purple cat??

As for Meg's Veg - no plot hole but Meg and Mog books in general are a bit loony especially Meg's Castle?!

LibraryLil Thu 20-Oct-11 22:27:52

We've bought some sets of Disney books published by Parragon Press, and in September I wrote to them offering my services as a proofreader. I was appalled to find that in 13 books there are over 60 typo and grammatical errors (e.g. whales' tales instead of tails in an Ariel one; painted roses instead of planted in Alice in Wonderland; lead instead of led in Snow White) including inconsistencies of upper and lower case, types of spelling, etc. Did they reply? No, they couldn't be bothered. So I wrote to Disney - and they haven't replied, either. They obviously don't care about the readers, or care that they're setting a bad example to children; they just want to take our money and run ...

Another thing that I'd like publishers to think about is that some of these books are being read to children while they're in bed, so while black type on a dark brown, green, purple or black background might look dramatic in daylight, it's practically impossible to read in low light levels. Luckily as my daughter likes me to read the same book over and over again until she knows what's coming next, it isn't long before I can more or less remember what I'm supposed to be reading!

MsMarple Thu 20-Oct-11 22:45:04

Not an error as such, apart from maybe an error of judgement, but if I have to read the words "Stickman, I'm stickman, I'm stickman, that's me" one more time I may have to screeeeeeaaaaam.

In fact I have hidden it at the back of the bookself to lessen risk of picture book induced meltdown occuring.

Call me an old cynic, but did she run out of new words to fill the pages with, and resort to repeating the same sentence over and over?

traceface Thu 20-Oct-11 22:47:48

we also have the non-mirror version of the bookstart book!
And the Lucy The Ladybird "I've learn't to fly" really annoys me.
Also, in the peppa pig annual, there's a story where dad and mum have to work so Mrs sheep takes Peppa and Suzie to playgroup, but then it says george is there too. Then Daddy pig picks up peppa and george, but the picture shows peppa and suzie in the car and no George, then when they get home, george is already there, playing Happy Mrs Chicken on the computer with mummy pig! Trememdous time travel going on grin
Not a story book, but the DIngle Dangle Scarecrow should surely shout very loud*ly*, and whsiper very softly I can't actually sing it without adding a whispered "ly" blush

backonthedecaff Thu 20-Oct-11 22:53:52

Iggly, no need to disturb DS - there is a stray 'very' in the Peppa Pig book. Have been close to taking the tippex to it.
Also hate, hate, hate last few rhymes in Giraffes Can't Dance - they don't scan and I can't find a way to make them no matter how I try. Thankyou to all for clearing up the familial relationships in Bear Hunt; will sleep easily tonight.

bumpertobumper Thu 20-Oct-11 22:54:53

The Elephant and the Bad Baby!!!
Baby in trouble for not saying please, while the elephant goes round stealing things!!!

NonnoMum Thu 20-Oct-11 23:00:22

Just had pointed out to me that at the end of the Gruffalo's Child, it's just the Gruffalo, and not said child, who snores and snores and snores...

So, Gruff child could still be awake and carry on wandering about in the dark

<shivers down spine emoticon>

mamaduckbone Thu 20-Oct-11 23:13:26

Love this thread! DS2 thinks the older girl in Bear Hunt is the mummy but I'm going with older sister.
Buster bugs me, although I do like some of the stories. In 'Buster gets dressed' he puts on his shoes - 'Buster can tie his laces' - he's meant to be about 2 FGS.

Bubbaluv Fri 21-Oct-11 00:34:37

The Minosaur really annoys me. It seems clear to me that it was originally going to be a rhyming story, but the author just gave up and left it half and half.

mamandeouisti Fri 21-Oct-11 00:42:13

LibraryLil - know exactly how you feel about offering your proof-reading services! However, I thought in Alice in Wonderland they actually did paint the's been a while so I can't remember. My personal hates were ALL Mr Men books (DS knew not to ask!) - just SO dull. Thankfully I was never really subjected to Thomas et al. All time fave is Room on the Broom (not caring at all whether it's a bow or the bow)!

WanderingStar1 Fri 21-Oct-11 01:38:39

Peetle - I agree totally about the three little pigs! I also insert that line about the 'chinny chin chin' and my three year old twins recite it dutifully whenever they 'read' the book to themselves! It's a good job we grown ups know better than the book authors.... smile

kipperandtiger Fri 21-Oct-11 02:13:58

I am guessing that in The Cat in the Hat, the mother wasn't really gone for that long and wasn't actually that far away-she could have been in the garage, sorting something out in the garden, or even just in the cellar/kitchen, as a lot of the timings and realities (like the fish being thrown and balanced) in the story are distorted too. I think it's all in the child's imagination that it was a very long time. Children often think their parents are gone for ages when it's just half an hour and they want that parent's attention. I do admit finding it very odd when I first read it at face value and got to the bit where "mother was out all day", and told the 2 children just to "sit", with nothing else to do.

I actually find it painful reading the double negatives and extra hyperboles in "Charlie and Lola" as they seem to mean the opposite of what the story says. It doesn't seem so strange watching it on tv.

I don't mind the "artistic licence" in the pictures, but I really cannot bear poor grammar and poor spelling, which I've seen in a couple of publications - ending up altering it when I