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or more am I being stupid?

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stressedatnetball · 24/03/2010 06:06

I am in a nasty situation at the moment whereby I have found myself arrested and I am currently on bail for an accusation of fraud by position because I paid for my old netball teams affiliation on my credit card and then when peoples cheques for their contribution were paid into netball teams bank account I took back money to pay off my credit card which was agreed as a team this is how it would work but one malicious woman has told the police she did not agree etc etc so as treasurer i have now been framed. I have not slept for last 10 days or so whilst all this is being investigated as even though I have done nothing wrong I feel unsettled.

I am a childminder. On monday I lost my full timer as her mum left college, Yesterday I had a lot of stress as the parents often bring sick children to me e.g. sickness & diarrhoea anyway yesterday I felt enough was enough as two children came in like that and the mother lied to me so I gave notice to all my under 5's as I can't afford to pay my assistant anymore and I just felt it was more stress but have I been stupid whilst so much else is going on in my life?

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violetqueen · 24/03/2010 08:38

Oh dear ,I'm so sorry for you .
I've been arrested and cautioned as a result of one person'e vindictiveness ,so I really feel for you .
Can you get some legal support ? Or advice from CAB ?
I think sometimes house insurance carries a clause covering you for some legal advice .
Or you might get legal aid ?

With regard to giving notice to your under 5s - maybe that was unwise ,although understandable in circs.
Although if you are a member of staff down ,perhaps you had to reduce numbers anyway ?
Can you manage with slimmed down business and presumably cash income for a bit ?
Give yourself a bit of a break?
Hugs .

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stressedatnetball · 24/03/2010 08:56

I not sure what to do about work I may ring Ofsted today and see if i can keep 3 of the 4 children on as a variation request I have got my network co-ordinator due in a minute so will tell her everything in length and see what she advises. I am unsure whether to tell Ofsted yet as if I do and no charges are brought I may have jepordised my career unnecessarily obviously if charges are brought I will have to inform them and see what the say

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violetqueen · 24/03/2010 09:43

Good luck ,hope the co ordinator can help you .
Things will get better.

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SPBInDisguise · 24/03/2010 09:49

you poor thing - i assume you're talking about the equivalent of paying a full bill in a restaurant on card andv then keeping everyone else's cash??
Spiteful woman!
Can the others explain that everyone had agreed this was how it'd work?

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violetqueen · 25/03/2010 16:25

How's it going ?

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Mouseface · 25/03/2010 16:37

No advice really. Just sorry to hear you are having such a sh1t times of things.

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stressedatnetball · 25/03/2010 17:15

still crap no news not coping too well got to return for bail next tuesday not sure bout work organised meetings with parents

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violetqueen · 26/03/2010 14:42

Have you had any legal advice ?
Try and keep strong.

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stressedatnetball · 26/03/2010 16:10

solicitor telling me to try and not worry and they don't think the cps have a case but i can't live like this i am scared to death

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violetqueen · 26/03/2010 17:00

Well that sounds good from the solicitor .
I'm sure they wouldn't say that for no reason.

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GnocchiGnocchiWhosThere · 26/03/2010 17:06

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chippy47 · 26/03/2010 17:11

I cannot see a case to answer from a common sense point of view. You paid the netball affiliation from your own pocket then recouped the expense from the company account. This is how may companies operate expenses accounts when they do not provide a company credit card (the employer pays and then they claim it back).
As long as you can demonstrate the figures equate to a net zero balance for money paid and money taken then there is no fraud. and request that a member of the team who was happy with the arrangement provides a written testimony to this effect.

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chippy47 · 26/03/2010 17:12

Employee pays even

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stressedatnetball · 26/03/2010 19:48

chippy 47 I am still owed £15.12 that is the irony

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SloanyPony · 26/03/2010 19:52

If you end up before a magistrate, they will look into the whites of your eyes and know that you are undeserved to find yourself in this situation.

Dont worry.

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TottWriter · 26/03/2010 20:05

I saw your other thread about this, and I wouldn't say you are being stupid at all. Yes, you will lose income from doing this, but you have to balance that against the damage the stress is doing to your health at the moment what with everything else.

I will repeat what other people have said and say I don't think this spiteful woman has a leg to stand on with her accusations. I know you're going to feel stressed an anxious anyway, but I have to add my voice to the chorus.

WRT to the money you will lose out on, as I'm fully convinced that her accusation will come to nothing in the end, go to your doctor and tell him about your health problems and the fact that you've had to considerably reduce your workload because of this woman - you'll have a good case for compensation of your loss of earnings to file against her so you can try to recoup something from all of this.

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stressedatnetball · 26/03/2010 20:36

trying to remind myself constantly that I am innocent I have spoke to police station today and found out the two pc's dealing with this are both off til tuesday so trying to sit tight and stop my mind going into overdrive 4 days to go til i should know if i going to be charged

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violetqueen · 27/03/2010 07:32

Streesed - are you sure you'll find out on Mon whether you'll be charged ?
It can't really be down to the 2 PC's ,can it ?
I'd ask over on the legal thread ,someone there might know .
Or what does your solicitor say ?
Can't bear to think you of you pinning hopes on finding out on Tues if going to be another step in the proceedings .
Have you thought about advice re going to GP ?
Take care .

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stressedatnetball · 27/03/2010 08:54

the police won't tell me anything they say I can only speak to these two pc's who are both off til tuesday I rung yesterday and told the police how desperate I was feeling and they told me the duty sargeant would phone me but he hasn't if truth be told I am scared to death that because they are not there when I go on tuesday I will be rearrested and if that happens I do not know how I will cope I have spoke to doctors twice but they can't really help me other than keep an eye on me

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stressedatnetball · 27/03/2010 09:08

I have rung police station again they don't care how depressed etc it making me they have pretty much said that I am silly for even thinking about it and losing sleep over it as the pc's are off so nothing will change til tuesday and i will be updated when I return for bail my brain is in overdrive thinking that I will be rearrested and therefore not able to get home to my children and not able to work wednesday and possibly thursday or friday i don't know what to tell parents I childmind for as it will leave them in the lurch at really short notice and that is not how i want to run my business and will ruin my reputation i have worked hard to build up

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MuthaHubbard · 27/03/2010 09:13

i think, the officer in the case will put a file together and consult with cps before you attend to answer bail. they will then tell you whether or not you will be charged or not (as no case to answer). i doubt you will be re-arrested if charged, just bailed to attend court on a date in the future so they can get the case/evidence together.

obv i am not a solicitor so the above may not be correct

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violetqueen · 27/03/2010 09:26

Oh stressed .I feel for you so much.
Try and take a deep breath and imagine what you would say if this were happening to someone else .
There's no reason why you would be rearrested is there ?
It's so unlikely ,surely ?
And post these queries - about what you should expect on Tues - on the legal thread .
There seem to be people there who have more knowledge .
( no offense to Muthahubbard )

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violetqueen · 27/03/2010 09:27

Oh sorry ,see that you have .

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stressedatnetball · 27/03/2010 10:01

thanks MuthaHubbard sargeent just phoned he has explained possible courses of action apparently will be one of three

1)no further action

2)charged after further interview

3)bailed to appear in court

he has told me to try and stay calm and remember I am innocent so the likelihood of being charged or rebailed are slim he thinks it likely to be nfa but obviously can't tell for definite so prepare that I may be there for few hours while it goes to cps

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violetqueen · 27/03/2010 10:13

Well if he is saying only slim chance of being charged or re bailed ,that has to be good .
Hope Tuesday comes quickly for you and that this can soon all be over .

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