e-petition !

[mama4life]

Please support this e-petition

petitions.number10.gov.uk/rights-of-mums/

I am appealing to those who would like to see certain values and norms in human society restored & protected , preserved ,and supported by law i.e mother-child bond. This has to be the cornerstone in building the foundation of a civilised society. I am also appealing to those who would like the law to be strengthened so that it is not prone to abuse , manipulation and not used as a tool to exploit the vulnerable .
Also for the legal fraternity i.e lawyers ,barristers,courts, & judges to be seriously(Not merely by their own kind!) regulated and accountable for the services they provide for the decisions they make that affect peoples lives in the most profound & devastating way. (Family) law is applied in the most arbitary fashion.Moreover it is frequently blinkered and horrifyingly perverse in its approach as to the matter of what is in the" best interests of the child" .
Recall a brave compatriot- Caroline Norton(1808 - 1877) who suffered & struggled and whose protests helped achieve the passing of the Infant Custody Bill of 1839. Why has this taken a retrograde step in British family law? How can we say that progress has been made in rights of women as mothers and for that matter what of the rights of children of tender age? Why has motherhood been so devalued in British society, so that not even the law as it stands now recognises its worth and importance in the development of human society? Women, as mothers are seen by some(eg employers) as an inconvenience in this society .At the same time, their are other women who do a disservice to their fellow sisters by using this status just to exploit the welfare system. And then their are those who feel that women as mothers are superflous, (like men with careers-they should have the same priorities) and it is enough to leave the child rearing entirely to the nannies, nurseries and schools as "surrogate parents".
And for some reason men are wanting to compete with women now for "parental status"- not neccessarily for the sake of the child -but possibly as a backlash to the feminist movement.
That is not to deny fathers their parental role , this needs to be recognised too. But the concept of gender neutrality cannot be applied when it comes to child custody. By virtue of their physical, emotional and psychological attributes women(majority) are more suited to child rearing and nurturing. And that is how human society has evolved . This should not be about competition between mothers and fathers/sexes but common sense & what is in the best interests of the child.

[Paolosgirl]

Eh?????

[scottishmummy]

jesus wept woman.what are you on about?that cut n paste drone is hardly inspiring,is it

and my employer sees me as an asset to the society i live in.i am a paid and valued commodity.happy to be a paid employee too

[jasper]

another eh?

[Angelcat666]

"But the concept of gender neutrality cannot be applied when it comes to child custody. By virtue of their physical, emotional and psychological attributes women(majority) are more suited to child rearing and nurturing."

Can I say bullshit on here???

Oh, what the hell..........

bullshit!!!!

[ChickensHaveNoTinsel]

Erm, what is this petition actually for?

[scottishmummy]

oh and i happily use ft nursery.you erroneously call it "surrogate parents"- i call it damn indispensable

[Southwind]

[scottishmummy]

think you are pissing up a close on this one

[FimBOW]

Oh jeez this is the 2nd thread started by the same poster.

[jasper]

can you rephrase it into two simple sentences?

[scottishmummy]

let me,surmise.utter mince

[Paolosgirl]

Should I ignore the loony?

[Angelcat666]

Having read the petition, it seems to be asking for mothers to be automatically granted custody unless proven unfit.

Now I admit it could be me misreading it but it's how I've interpreted it. Maybe OP could tell us differently.

[scottishmummy]

we could have fun and take the piss

[piscesmoon]

I don't understand any of it!
I am guessing that it is saying that the mother's rights come first-if that is what it means I am against it. The DC has the right to 2 loving parents, and the loving parents put the DC first and forget about themselves. (apologies if I have got it wrong-as I said, I failed to understand it).

[Paolosgirl]

I'm also wondering if there is such a thing as British law? I thought we had a different legal system up here?!

It's just too easy to take the piss out of the numpty, isn't it

[InMyLittleHead]

Load of wank.

[scottishmummy]

numpty is a stoating word

[KitKatQueensSpeech]

stoating? will it fit down a trouser leg like tut ferret??

[DollyMessiter]

Oooh, I love a good petition.
Do I get entered into a raffle or somesuch if I sign up?

[scottishmummy]

stoating= gemmy v good but my aunty mary had a canary up the leg o her drawers and it fair stoated aboot

[Angelcat666]

The first bit seems to be saying that the mother-child bond is a cornerstone in the foundation of a civilised society and this should be upheld in law.

The second bit seems to say that the legal fraternity should be held accountable for their decisions and questions that the 'best interests of the child' are upheld by these people.

Then OP refers to Caroline Norton, a woman who left her husband after he repeatedly beat her (this was in a time when men owned women). She lost custody of her children but fought and won access/custody to them, if I remember correctly.

The OP seems to think we've taken a backwards step from this progress and that mothers'/children's rights have been devalued in both society and the law.

Employers see mothers as an inconvenience and some women exploit the fact that they are mothers to claim benefits. Oh, and some think mothers are superfluous and something about leaving children to be raised by others eg nurseries.

Last bit seems to be about men wanting/feeling that they should have a share in bringing up the child (this, I think, means those who are separated)and that mothers are automatically the best parent to have custody of the child.

Now I could be completely wrong but that is how I understand it.

Disclaimer: this is my interpretation not my views.

Now I need a drink

[cornsilkcremeeggspotter]

my grandad had a hamster up his trouser leg once.

[scottishmummy]

was it a big hamster

[memoo]

my sister once had a hamster called spud, guess what it looked like