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Isn't the Head of State also the Head of the Anglican church?

Sorry - but it is. Yes, as a general rule (past the BNP or such!!) other religions and cultures are welcomed/accepted, but it is a majority Christian country, Queen and PM are both 'heads' in some way. Don;t agree that other religions should be disallowed though - totally bigotted.

My problem is less that it is a primarily Christian country, that I accept. But that it always was strikes me as a little imaginative

It's nominally a christian country. However, churches are getting sold off to build luxury flats left right and centre because people of 'christian heritage' aren't going anymore. It is still the majority religion according to the census.

I just wish people would stop seeing other religions as a threat to their own. This is 2009, it isn't the crusades a few extra muslims/jews won't stop people going to church if they wish, nor will it ban christmas or set a mosque with the call to prayer on every street corner.

Sorry, should have phrased my OP better, looking back at it.

"always" - well, best part of something like 1,800 years or something close? Am a bit vague on when Emperor whathisface converted, tbh. (Constantine?)

This is true, I've never said it hasn't been primarily Christian for a long time. But "always" is untrue and so annoys me. Yes, I'm a little on the pedantic side, especially when it's being used to suggest no other religions are allowed here.

England is a Christian country - as Morloth quite rightly pointed out, the Sovereign is the head of the Church of England.

Really wish I could change the title to reflect the OP better.

So again, yes it currently is a primarily Christian country. No dispute from me here.

But no it hasn't always been. And yes other religions should be allowed here. Unless of course the religion is forced upon all (which incidentally is how Christianity became the main religion, and is how the Sovereign became the head of the CofE, but that's a whole new thread)

Well "always" is clearly nonsense so on that score YANBU.

However at the moment yes it is, and what kat2907 said.

I think it unreasonable for anyone to say that England is NOT a primarily Christian country albeit one which grants those of other faiths freedom to practise their religions.This freedom is denied to many Christians in other countries.Obviously there was a time when Romans,Vikings and others brought their religions as part of their invasion package.Other religions are allowed here as far as I know.

It is a Christian country but IME the people that go on about it havent set foot in a church for years. They are the ones that object to any Christian influence in their lives, laugh at those with poofy ideals and cross the road if they see the Sally Army shaking a tin.

But those bloody Islams better not try and ban Christmas!!!!!!!

(and the Christians better not try and spoil by talking bout God and stuff)

My problem is with people who think other religions shouldn't be allowed here, and that to come over here you should accept the Christian religion as your own.

I have zero problem with it being a primarily Christian country, and love that other religions are accepted here (especially as I'm not Christian)

Should I ask for this thread to be deleted and start again? lol

I was obviously suffering severe foot in mouth at the start of it.

well yes - wanting to 'physically knock sense' into people is totally unreasonable. Why is it such a big deal to you?

seeing as you have performed pretty much a volte face Kaloki yes, I'd get it deleted.

Mainly because not being Christian it really gets on my nerves when I'm told that I should be Christian in order to be allowed here.

Obviously I wouldn't actually hit someone to get my point across. Sometimes it's tempting though (says the girls who's never been in a fight in her life)

I haven't changed my mind, just realised I phrased it badly.

Is the majority of people in this country Christian? Is that a clearly proven statistic I mean? In my experience at least most people I meet seem to be atheists, very few Christians.

yes - extremely badly.

megapixels - at the last census christianity was still the major religion, yes

but many of those claiming to be "C of E" only ever go to church for weddings christenings and funerals!

I am seriously missing something here...

How are you not allowed here, Kaloki?

If you are an immigrant, there is nothing on the application forms that ask about your religious adherance. There are strict criteria about who can come here, but religion is not one of them.

megapixels, yes, see here

i dont know any Christians who think that you should become a christian if you move to this country. and Ive been a christian as long as I can remember and a member of many churches.

I do know a few narrow minded bigots who think that foreigners should not be allowed because "they are taking our jobs/council houses/benefits" etc - nothing about their religion or yours, just they are bigots

I think it has been a primarily Christian country for 1500 years or so (give or take a bit of paganism).

I don't think it is now - I think the majority are not Christian - they are atheist, agnostic, muslim, hindu, jewish, sikh etc - Christian is probably still the largest religious grouping - but I think the majority are probably secular or non-religious now.