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to have a smoke when DS is safely in bed?
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ok so i'll just come right out with it and ask the question! i have a joint a couple of nights a week when my ds is safely tucked up in bed. do other mums find this unreasonable??
I dont drink, dont go out, dont party etc. i see myself as a bit of a hippy and always have been. ok i know its illegal, but to be honest its far safer than alcohol. and at least if something happens to ds through the night i could take him to hospital safe in the knowledge that i wouldnt reek of dope like some people do of alcohol. i'm not hungover in the morning, and actually get a better nights sleep if i've had a smoke. some people have a glass of wine a night to relax, i have a joint..is it really that bad???
i'm fully prepared for the onslaught of "your a terrible mother for having illegal substances in your home while your son is there etc etc. but he never sees me doing it and its safely stashed away once i go to bed so he cant find it.
AIBU?
Just read the OP, my initial reaction before reading it was "YABU" i thought you were talking about ordinary cigarettes - having watched my father die from lung cancer caused by smoking, i think every parent has a responsibility to give up the evil weed.
Funnily enough i dont think you are being any more unreasonable to smoke a bit of dope. I did at first and i thought, yep, out of order, bad mother - then i stopped and thought, hang on one minute there - I like a glass of wine in the evening, and last night i polished off a whole bottle (Minus the big fat glass DP had).
So yeah, YABU give up smoking - its bad for you!
Firstly, why ask if everyone who disagrees with you is wrong and clueless? Attention seeking, or deep down you know it's not a good situation?
Secondly, that child of yours, you know what? Soon he won't be 11 months old. Soon he'll be two and three and four... geddit? Are you going to stop then? And if not, what excuse will you use to cover up the stink?
As I said before, I don't give a toss what you do. But stop kidding yourself.
Surely, if you are doing it on the odd occasion, the effects would be quite strong, meaning you would fall into quite a deep sleep, I would be worried that you would sleep through if your dc woke in the night.
OP, you asked whether other mums find this unreasonable, it seems the majority do, why ask for an opinion and then say, if your partner is ok with it then that's all you need, seems a pointless post to me.
finally getting around to answering all these posts..firstly i'd like to thank the few who don't paint me as an aggressive stoner who cant stand her own company <chukkles out loud>
i'm aware of the legal highs described like salvia divinorim which makes you hallucinate, not my cuppa tea thanks very much! my brother smokes himself, he gets it for himself as well as me and a 1 other person...he would hardly drive 85 miles on 1 of the most dangerous roads in scotland just for my benefit.
my child is 11 months old, so really doubt he knows that i'm smoking dope lol..
of couse i'm going to tell a very arrogant poster to fuck off when they say i'm not emotionally "there" for my child..how dare they..they dont know me, or how i interact with my baby, that comment was totally uncalled for, i wasn't smoking anything when i started this thread or replyed to these comments..and am not now, and haven't for 4 weeks!if i was an addicted stoner this wouldn't be the case would it??!!
i dont need anything to enjoy my own company thank you, i'm home most evenings on my own with a nice cuppa which is all i need..i get a quater of hash a month and to those in the know will agree that is a little amount. i dont need validation for my choice to smoke dope..if my partner is ok with it then it then thats all i need! i was merly asking the question not looking for approval.
Ahem, is this a real thread?
Where's the OP?....
Off smoking a fat one?

coteDAzur, psychologically is what I mean by mentally I suppose. Yes you can be 'addicted' to an ex, you can be psychologically addicted to anything. Doesn't (of course) mean you should outlaw love. I didn't say outlaw cannabis either, perhaps someone else did.
The amount you smoke and how dopey you are depends on the person, although you can build up an immunity to things like cannabis and function ok on ridiculous amounts, the point is it's messing you up in one way or another however much you smoke imo
I think it's probably no more harmful than a few glasses of wine now and then.
However, the two things that worry me with the OP are:
- needing to do this several times a week to de-stress. OP mentions having two joints if it's a particularly bad day. Relying on something that is harmful just to unwind at the end of a typical day isn't a good sign - and that would be the case if it was a few whiskeys or a bottle of wine as well. Find better ways to de-stress which involve no risk eg long hot bath, exercise, good dvd, sex.
- the most worrying thing of all however, it realising it's possible to do a degree in 'addiction'. Blimey. We did proper subjects in my day.
sorry I also want to add,
do you trust yourself enough for your 1 joint a couple of nights a week not to turn into 2 or 3 joints a couple of times a week, or every night?
Because there will be a big difference in your behaviour if you start doing that.
I went out with a guy at uni who would smoke several every night (why I went out with him I will never know) and he regularly used to just pass out and leave me to walk home from parties alone. Nice.
I'd hate to think how that would translate when looking after a child.
Ok this is what I think.
I don't believe that smoking pot is less harmful than cigarettes or alcohol. As was mentioned by a previous poster, it can bring on underlying mental health issues such as schizophrenia.
Sadly I know this because a very close member of my family was a regular smoker and it all ended very sadly (dont want to say more but I'm sure you may guess what I mean)
Anyway, my questions to the OP are:
When, if ever will you plan to stop? Your DS may be young now and not know what's going on but what if he catches you in a few years time? Would it bother you when he is a teenager if he also wants to have the occasional smoke and feels it is ok because you also do it?
How would you feel if you left your DS for the night with a babysitter and came back to find them puffing away in charge of your DS?
If the answer to both of these is that you would not mind then you may as well carry on. If not then you probably need to rethink what you are doing.
If you keep smoking (more than one a day - one in the morning, one in the afternoon, for example), then of course you will be dopey all the time. If you smoke one in the evening, effects wear off by the time you wake up in the morning.
There Is No Withdrawal Syndrome With Cannabis.
With some other hard drugs mentioned on this thread, as well: There Is No Withdrawal Syndrome With Ecstasy And LSD.
You can go on about how
you think differently, but it just isn't so. This isn't a subject you can arbitrarily have an opinion on. It is scientific fact. There is no physical addiction to these drugs - it just doesn't exist.
"Mentally you can be addicted to all sorts of things"
Like, an ex? Should we then outlaw love?

I'm guessing you people want to say "psychologically" when you refer to "mentally". In that case, it is the person in need of a crutch in his life who wants to keep doing something - smoke cannabis, eat chocolate, gym every night, etc. It is not the gym that is at fault here, nor is it cannabis. I really hope you can see what I am talking about here.