to think that all 4-d scans look the same?

(66 Posts)
HeadFairy Fri 11-Sep-09 15:10:18

Am I missing something? They all look identical. Has anyone had one and been able to actually say "ooh doesn't he look like grandpa?" or "he's got your nose" or something like that?

My friend just showed me the dvd of her 4d scan and it looked just like every other 4-d scan I've ever seen. She was made up, and it's her money, so I'm sure she's happy, but I'm more curious to know whether anyone has actually been able to see anything in theirs that looks different to any other 4-d scan.

fifitot Fri 11-Sep-09 15:12:38

I don't see the point of them but each to their own I suppose.

Tidey Fri 11-Sep-09 15:13:59

YANBU. Babies in those scans all look identical - smooshed up faces and weird looking noses.

MorningTownRide Fri 11-Sep-09 15:16:43

It's not something I have ever thought about - but no YANBU.

One of dds scans was very sinister. She was facing the ultrasound wand thingy so you could see this little skull face!!

HeadFairy Fri 11-Sep-09 15:19:31

MTR - DDs last scan was just like that.... scary skeletor face!!! At least with ultrasound scans they all look fuzzy and wierd. But 4-d scans are so clear, you kind of expect to be able to see how much your baby looks like Uncle George, but really they just look squashed and wierd too! I'm glad I'm not alone.

EasyEggs Fri 11-Sep-09 15:22:28

Lol! I had one with dd and she actually looked the same as the pics after she was born too, it was quite a clear scan. I am going to have one with this dd tomorrow so shall let you know if it looks just the same as dd1's wink

lovechoc Fri 11-Sep-09 15:22:31

I'm with fifitot here, can't see the point of spending money on 4D scans. Cheaper just getting it done on the NHS.

YANBU.

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight Fri 11-Sep-09 15:59:10

YANBU
I hate how they call them 'bonding scans' - yes, because I am not sufficiently bonded with my baby that I have grown inside me for several months, I need to see an image of this weird little squashed frog baby squirming around trying to get away from the nasty ultrasound prodder thing.

Newborns look weird, babies in utero look weird.

JodieO Fri 11-Sep-09 16:04:40

YABU - why shouldn't people if they want to?

HeadFairy Fri 11-Sep-09 16:04:55

Kat, when ds was born and plonked on my chest I remember super clearly saying loudly to everyone in the room "oh my God, he's the most beautiful child in the room"... looking back at the photos taken at the time he looked freaking wierd!!! Maybe the hormones make you see something other than the reality! I'm pg now, and even though I'm pumped full of hormones I couldn't help thinking "that's one wierd looking baby" when I was watching the dvd, maybe it has to be your baby for you to appreciate it. My friend was so happy bless her!

HeadFairy Fri 11-Sep-09 16:05:33

Jodie, I'm not saying they shouldn't, I was just wondering if I'm alone in thinking they all look the same.

Morloth Fri 11-Sep-09 16:08:56

Meh, I think most newborns look pretty similar. Allow for some size/colouring difference and you pretty much have a squashed looking hairless monkey.

cjones2979 Fri 11-Sep-09 16:12:11

I had a 4-D scan with DS2, and some of the pics are ^amazing*. A friend of mine had one with her twins & they aren't very good or clear. I can honestly say that my baby actually looked like his 4-D scan pics.

Bucharest Fri 11-Sep-09 16:59:23

They give me the heebs. (I should maybe post this on the irrational-things-that-freak-you-out thread. They honestly make me feel sick.
I'd be seriously worried if my baby had come out looking like its 4d scan.
Mind you, I didn't go all gooey and ridiculous over dd's normal ones either. She just looked like a potato for 3 months and then a potato with limbs for the other 6.
Perhaps I didn't have any hormones. hmm

lovechoc Fri 11-Sep-09 17:02:01

bucharest that made me laugh! I also felt a similar way, wasn't all gooey over DS when I was carrying him, or when I saw the scan photos. I didn't get excited until he was born, when I knew all was safe and well. And even then they all look like Winston Churchill.

mummy2be3 Fri 11-Sep-09 17:04:41

I had a 4D Scan done and i can honestly say my baby looks just like his dad grin , and doesnt look squashed up. We got 2 cheeky pictures of him sticking his middle finger up and one sticking 2 fingers up which was funny to watch (not that he will be allowed to do it when he arrives!LOL! ). My scan only cost £80 so i think it was cheap and worth it.

lolapoppins Fri 11-Sep-09 17:04:58

MorningTownRide - we have a pretty sinister skull scan of Ds too. He had his arms crossed as well, it looks like a pirate flag!

HappyWoman Fri 11-Sep-09 17:05:12

I actually do 4d scans for a job - and so i know i am biased. They dont all look the same - some are truly amazing and others are bit more difficult to see.

They are called a bonding scan because they have no medical use and it is supposed to be a chance for you to bond a bit more with the baby.

there is some evidence that shows if mothers (and fathers) have a positive experience during the scan it can help with intial bonding.
Remember the NHS one is to look for abnormalities and so can be more stressful - it is for the sonographer.
During the 'bonding' 4D scan the pressure is off to get a good look at the organs etc and only look at the face.

The quality of such scans is of course dependent on many factors - when the scan is preformed - too early and the baby has too little fat and too late and they will indeed look very squashed up.

It is not for everyone and i am not sure i would have wanted one when i was pregnant - but most of the people i scan say it is a wonderful experience - but again i think i am biased and it may be because i am a wonderful sonographer wink [tongue in cheek].

Bucharest Fri 11-Sep-09 17:08:20

lovechoc and if they don't look like Winnie, they look like Jamie Oliver......

rsr Fri 11-Sep-09 17:19:25

Does anyone recommend a specific 4d scanning company, as when i google there are just so many advertised...

mummy2be3 Fri 11-Sep-09 17:23:38

I had mine done at Babybrite but its in middlesbrough, and the RVI in newcastle do 4D scans.

HeadFairy Fri 11-Sep-09 17:31:10

Happywoman, I had no idea they could be better... perhaps my friend didn't have a sonographer as good as you

moosemama Fri 11-Sep-09 17:31:42

I had a 4d scan done with ds2 because my LHA wasn't doing 20 week scans at the time and at the place I went to get my anomaly scan done you could get a 4d done at the same time for only a small additional cost. That was 5 years ago now and they don't do the offer anymore.

We fot a 30 min dvd of the scan, but ds2 was bring really uncooperative so about 25 minutes of that are hopeless. The other 5 minutes were great though and when he was born it was amazing how much he looked like the scan images.

I don't agree that all babies look alike though. Ds2's facial features were distinctly different to ds1's when he was newborn.

moosemama Fri 11-Sep-09 17:34:08

got not fot, sorry. I am typing one handed whilst feeding dd (7 months) who incidently does look strikingly similar to ds1 as a baby.

Bleatblurt Fri 11-Sep-09 17:40:24

I had a 4d scan with my DS2 and he came out looking like his pic! He was actually stillborn so the 4d scan pics are a treasured item (especially the dvd with him moving about alive and well) and we have one of the photos on our mantle piece and people always comment on how much he looks like our other DS's!

So yabu, as they don't always look the same. But of course my boys are just so stunningly gorgeous that they don't look like other 'average' babies. wink

Flamesparrow Fri 11-Sep-09 17:54:21

All babies tend to look pretty much the same don't they?

Flamesparrow Fri 11-Sep-09 17:54:47

Argh, just read Butterball's post - that is so sad but lovely that you have the dvd

dogonpoints Fri 11-Sep-09 17:59:52

I haven't seen a 4d scan. Am intrigiued.

TheWolf Fri 11-Sep-09 18:00:11

YABU - dd resembles her 4d scan pictures even now at nearly 3yo (maybe we were just lucky? wink)

HeadFairy Fri 11-Sep-09 18:01:20

Butterball, that's so sad. You must be so happy to have your dvd of your ds.

HeadFairy Fri 11-Sep-09 18:04:04

dogonpoints some 4d scans on here click on the links to see them.

dogonpoints Fri 11-Sep-09 18:10:05

wow! Thanks head. I'm going to ask my sister if she's gettin gone

hellsbelles Fri 11-Sep-09 18:17:26

I had a lot of scans in my rather difficult pregnancy so as a 'treat' one of the technicians gave me a free 4-d one. Oh my goodness - my LO looked like a little frog with a big wide nose. I consoled myself with the idea that there was no way a baby would look like that but when she was born she sort of did LOL! But she's gorgeous now of course

blue76 Fri 11-Sep-09 18:33:52

I had a 4d scan done at 32 weeks. I'm now 39 weeks and eagerly awaiting her arrival. As soon as her face appeared on the screen I knew there would be no denying her father. My God, image grin

If you check out my profile pics, the scan is on there as well as a pic of dp, so decide for yourselves!

My friend and I are due babies within 4 days of each other. She also had a 4d scan and we compared them - they look nothing like each other. Good job really as my dp would be in for a grilling grin

Not sure about the 'bonding' thing, but it is lovely to see what baby looks like with skin, rather than a 2d scan showing bones and internal organs wink

cjones2979 Fri 11-Sep-09 18:39:07

Please feel free to check out my profile pics as I have uploaded one of my 4-D scan pics of DS2. There is also a pic of him at 1 day old. Decide for yourselves. grin

SausageRocket Fri 11-Sep-09 18:47:30

The 4d scan foetuses look scary to me. The 2d b&w ones are sort of like a blurry, cute magic eye picture but the odd sepia 4d ones are freaky.

SausageRocket Fri 11-Sep-09 18:52:24

Re 'bonding scan', as far as I am aware the medical profession in general does not advocate scans 'just for a look' (ie no medical or diagnostic grounds), as the long term effects of exposure to the radiation when in utero are not yet fully established. That is certainly what I have been led to believe by quite a few obstetric consultants (I work in a hospital) and midwives (from my own pregnancy and also from speaking friends in the trade, as it were).

Vegemitenotmarmite Fri 11-Sep-09 19:09:37

My 4D scan looked so much like DH everyone thought it was hilarious.

oldraver Fri 11-Sep-09 19:17:51

I had a 4D scan and it DS did look remarkably like his scan when first born, slightly wizzened scrawny thing. I dont like the term 'bonding scan but for me it was like happywomen pointed out, a chance for a positive experience with no pressure to look for problems

I had many scans almost weekly after 23 weeks always with the idea of looking for problems. I had early scan at 6-7 weeks due to previous M/C's, one at 8 weeks due to a bleed, 12 week Nuchal due to my age, 6 scans over 2 days at 20 weeks due to potential problem that appeared at Anomoly scan, Maternal blood flow scan at 23 weeks due to previous Pre-Eclampsia, many many Doppler scans, growth scans. I just wanted something for ME to enjoy without the premise of 'lets see what problem we can find'

HigherThanAWombat Fri 11-Sep-09 19:47:15

Your boys are beautiful CJones.envy

And there's no doubt that the scan is of your ds2.

LoveTheCarbs Fri 11-Sep-09 20:18:13

We got a 4D scan, as in Scotland they don't offer a routine second scan. Admittedly it was a lot later than a normal second scan at 28weeks, but our son looked very like the scan photo. I don't think all the 4D photos look the same at all.

cjones2979 Fri 11-Sep-09 20:19:04

Thanks HTAW

lovechoc Fri 11-Sep-09 20:43:34

SausageRocket you have a valid point, I've also heard a similar story about the radiation. I would only have it done if it was necessary, not just for the sake of having a look.

PDR Fri 11-Sep-09 20:57:24

I can honestly say my baby looked spookily like his 4D scan picture.

They are much clearer than normal scan pictures which I think do all look alike, if you can even see the baby!

They are expensive though and I understand a lot of ppl have better things to spend money on.

Ninks Fri 11-Sep-09 21:11:30

Haven't read the thread and oh I did want a 4D scan. But seeing the ones I saw and yes all the babies did look the same, I still - er, wanted one.

Didn't do it though. And my normal scan pics for DD and DS eerily looked like them not as newborns but as growing children.

DS had very detailed photographs taken in London because of a possible kidney problem and I was not too impressed by the junior doctor telling me that, "it doesn't matter about the length of the tubes because that, see? That is a willy, congratulations!" grin

And I am very confused about the 4D aspect. When I was growing up, (dropped physics at age 14 or so ) the fourth dimension was Time.

trixymalixy Fri 11-Sep-09 22:01:35

YABU, we had 4d scans of both DS and DD. DS quite clearly looked like DH and DD quite clearly loked like me.

2010Dad Fri 11-Sep-09 23:44:14

I did a quick google and it seems that, according to the postcode search, we can get a 4D scan for £95 (in Altrincham, 14 miles away)

I just mentioned it to my wife and it sounds like a great way to pass the time throughout pregnancy and do something than just stay away in a nice hotel a few miles away which would cost the same.

If we do it, I hope she/he moves about a bit!

Elemental Fri 11-Sep-09 23:50:49

I had one and maybe it was luck but we got pictures that definitely look like him, I could recognise my nose and the fact that he looked just like his dad, which is still the case! I loved it.

worley Sat 12-Sep-09 01:23:19

HappyWomen,
where are you based? im now doing my post grad cert in obs and gynae u/s. Feeling it in my arm already!

worley Sat 12-Sep-09 01:25:07

happywoman rather! blush

LoveBeingAMummy Sat 12-Sep-09 07:42:58

Butterball - I'm so sorry, reading your story has made me cry. It must be your most treasured item in your house.

I had one done, just before I was due to have a late scan due to low lying plenta so already knew it'd moved {wink}

It was fab, but did kind of ruin the other scan cause its such poor pictures.

My mum saw the dvd and ran off and came back with my baby pictures and put them next to the TV cause she looked just like me. Oh and she made me put it on about 10 times in a row, even i was starting to get a bit bored of it by then lol.

dawntigga Sat 12-Sep-09 09:14:09

I can't see the point they look like the babies are made out of plasticine.

Wouldn'tWantOneMyselfButEachToTheirOwnTiggaxx

woozlet Sat 12-Sep-09 10:30:43

I really wished I hadn't gone for a 4D scan - DS honestly looked like a goblin. I know you are supposed to think your own is beautiful but I was downright scared. I worried for the rest of my pregnancy about having a goblin child inside me.

He was born and looked totally gorgeous and human.

jellybeans Sat 12-Sep-09 11:25:27

I had them done of DS as we had a very high risk of stillbirth (I have APS and 2 prior losses after 20 weeks) and it may have been the only time we had to 'see him' alive. I wanted to do as much as possible 'just in case' and I also wanted to check my cervix (had a stitch in) as the NHS scans were few and far between even for high risk (monthly).. He did look like an ailien (sp?) but he was my Alien!!! I loved having the pics/video and am glad we had them done even though it was very expensive!!

MaggieVirgoOn Sun 13-Sep-09 09:56:09

I agree, they all look the same and it would be impossible to spot resemblences, but, I can see why some people would do it. (eg Jellybeans)

mumtotwoplustwo Sun 13-Sep-09 11:04:50

I had one done and hoped DD wouldn't look like her scan. Unfortunately she did! She had a really squashy flat nose and this lasted for several months. IfI thought her scan pics would be like that I probably wouldn't have had them done wink

hackneybird Sun 13-Sep-09 16:54:15

4D scans give me the creeps. Mind you, I don't even like looking at our 'normal' scans.

oldraver Sun 13-Sep-09 17:18:12

JELLYBEANS.. Where are you. There is a team in Oxford that deal with high risk PG's and they will scan as much as is needed (I had at least weekly)

annamama Sun 13-Sep-09 21:34:08

Ninks - I too was wondering what the 4th dimension was... Apparently it's movement. So the pictures are 3d and the DVD is 4d.

Just had an idea... I'm going to open a 4d clinic myself and pretend I'm scanning someone while playing back our own 4d scan dvd. That's £80 please! grin

sillysalley Sun 13-Sep-09 23:17:24

We had a 4D scan with DS, it was amazing, worth every penny! We had the scan at 29 wks and when he was born at 38 wks he looked just like the scan photo which was very clear. It wasnt just us who thought so, everyone commented!

I dont see why people have an issue with 4D scans, fair enough if you wouldnt have one, but IMO, it really helped DH with the bonding process.

plonker Sun 13-Sep-09 23:20:07

I have no idea if they look the same or not - I can't look at them - they totally freak me out.

Ninks Sun 13-Sep-09 23:27:54

PMSL at woozlet's goblin. Funniest thing I've read here all night. DH is snorting too grin

Thanks for the clarification annamama.

HappyWoman Mon 14-Sep-09 08:06:37

just caught up with this - and would just like to clear up another point that was brought up.

Doing unecessary scans is frowned upon and we were taught that there should always be a 'reason'.

The clinic where i perform my scans, have chosen to use a lower output - although there is no legal requirement to do so or even use qualified staff (and that goes for private medical scans also). Many obs and gynea consultants have had no formal training in scans and when they do preform them will often use 'incorrect' settings on the screen. (Although this is not always true - the best consultants will employ qualified sonographers for their scans).

It is not radiation that the babies are exposed to it is sound wave energy and despite many studies there has been no adverse affects to the exposure.

However that being said i would not be happy over performing scans.

I do feel that it is generally a happy experience for the parents and does more good than harm.

flowerpot83 Mon 14-Sep-09 10:47:58

I agree they are good for bonding. We had ours done at 27 weeks, and found out at that point we were having a little girl. I know we both felt so much more 'connected' to her, having seen her face. I felt like I was carrying around my baby girl, rather than just pregnant.

She did look quite squished and I'm sure other people probably thought she looked weird, but we were delighted.

And now, when I look at my 7 week old...you can see she's the same baby as in the scan! It's amazing really.

For us it was definitely worth it for our PFB. Whether we'd pay for one for any subsequent babies remains to be seen...

bodenaddict Mon 14-Sep-09 11:28:15

i had a 4-d scan with dd2 who is now 8mnths old it was amazing for bonding and we managed to find out the gender as @ 20 wk scan she wasnt in the right position

AliGrylls Mon 14-Sep-09 14:11:06

My sister showed me her 4D scans the other day. She was so excited about her twins she said "doesn't this one look like me, and that one looks like dh" - I have to say I could not see the resemblance.

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