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to boycott tesco over this?

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Add message | Report | Contact poster By Tue 07-Jul-09 20:25:35
Psst Pingviner - have found your Perch Phaeton dangerously parked....grin
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Mon 06-Jul-09 16:47:21
" earlyriser......My record was a 32 year old mother of 3!!! She was suitably flattered and I was suitably blush "

Kiddiz, hoping that wasn't me? blush

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Add message | Report | Contact poster By Mon 06-Jul-09 16:37:12
on a similar theme.....our local tesco has a big sign up saying it is policy NOT to sell EGGS to under 18s

friends DC went in on PANCAKE day for eggs and lemon juice and they would not sell to them!!

(because of yobs throwing eggs at cars and buses)

I wonder when they will stop selling me eggs when my kids are with me just incase I am going to give them to the kids on the way out the shop and say "there you go, have some fun throwing them at cars but be back in time for tea"
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Mon 06-Jul-09 16:14:59
It is increasingly difficult to judge the age of purchasers. "Think 25" is designed to take some ambiguity away & protect staff from making mistakes with borderline cases.

Proof of age cards are easily available.

"But what would happen if she insited that she wanted the aclohol and the police were called? The customer isn't breaking the law,and as far as I know it isn't yet law to be over 25 to purchase alcohol, and the "over 25" thing isn't a law either. So what would the police do?"

Nothing, except point out that the store is at liberty to refuse to serve anyone.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Mon 06-Jul-09 12:55:42
I think the under 25 rule is because a 16 or 17 year old, if they are tall or they are wearing makeup might be able to pass as a 19 or 20 year old, or even a bit older. But it will be harder for them to look over 25 (why that arbitrary age I have no idea, I expect it's deliberately going over the top to make sure). So if you are aged between 18 and 24 you are legally entitled to buy alcohol, but you may be asked to prove you are over 18.
However, if you are refused the shopkeeper/checkout assistant should explain it's because they don't think you are over 18. Not that they think you are under 25. If that makes sense.
I've worked as a checkout assistant and it was horrible trying to assess people's age. I invariably asked for ID for people who were years past 18.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Mon 06-Jul-09 12:43:24
Sorry, don't have time to read the whole thread so apologies if this has been asked but what happens with home shopping? Tesco frequently deliver wine and beer with my weekly shop and my 11 and 8 year old sons are both home and (very occasionally) help to put the shopping away. Should they be refusing to leave the alcohol under those circumstances?
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Mon 06-Jul-09 12:32:51
don't see anything wrong with what tesco did in the op.
asked the husband for proof of age because they were worried he was not over 18, he couldn't provide it so they refused to serve him, and consequently they refused to allow someone who did have proof that they were over 18 to buy it for someone who could not rove they were of legal age. perfectly reasonable.
i used to work in an off-licence and in the situation i might have decided to sell it when i saw the person they were with was 24,not often you'd have a 24 year old and a 17 year old hanging out together, but that would have been my decision as i'd be the one taking a risk. the checkout person in this instance decided they didn't want to take the risk of selling to someone who they weren't sure was over 18.
I was always told at work that it didn't matter how old the customer actually was, if I asked them for proof of age and they didn't have it, then I could not serve them under any circumstances. This also included anyone they were with because we could not guarantee that they would not be drinking alcohol bought by others. Granted, this was a pub, which is slightly different and because we were also under instruction from the council not to let under 18s in the building at all.
So in essence, I could ask a pensioner for ID, and if they didn't have it then they can't be served. No one else working could serve them either and they would have to leave.
Every month we had to sign the challenge 21 policy, meaning from the perspective of the company, serving someone who looked under 21 could be seen as an act of gross misconduct and I could lose my job. It's just not worth it to take the risk.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Mon 06-Jul-09 00:20:27
I meant "believing that they're".
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Mon 06-Jul-09 00:19:52
It's not illegal to sell alcohol to a person over 18 believing the they're going to give it to a person under 18.

It's not illegal to sell alcohol to a person over 18 who is buying alcohol on behalf of (i.e. as the agent of) a person under 18, although it is illegal for the purchaser to do that.

Read the Licensing Act.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 16:58:24
Saltire I have the same ID issues- do have a driving licence but not photo because I cant find it they want to charge me a weeks income almost to replace it), have no passport and cant afford one so have been refused money by bank and had to offer PA committee rights to soemone else as coulddn't be a cheque signatory in a bank we have a family account in hmm (DID have a passport then but had less than a year remaining FTGS)

Makes me angry too, I can get it from a cashier perspective but thaqt doesn't stop me abeing annoyed. Thankfully I look well past it and the local Spar lady knows me anyhow so I just go there.
Quick hijack - Saltire - answer to your PE kit question on the Forces Sweethearts board!

I'm back in UK next week and will be going to Sainsbury's to stock up on Ginger wine and port which costs a bomb in Brussels. Will have ds (13) with me for trolley pushing and peanut butter buying purposes. Will see if I'm ID'd with interest as am well over 35 with grey highlights!
see, this is another good reason to get your shopping delivered.
hmm, I got id'd the other year at age 29
which was totally bizzare - i was buying some bottles of champagne, about two hundred pounds worth, with a credit card (not a regular occurence sad)
and of course had no ID on me

she did back down when I asked was it the usual practice of the local feral youth to spend several hundred of credit on champagne?

I can understand that the individuals serving have their jobs on the line in this, and sympathise with that, but i dont think theses 21 / 25 campaigns help in allowing people to use their common sense.
After the last thread about this I wrote to my MP (still waiting for reply). I asked him to clarify what would happen if a 30 year old woman tried to buy alcohol and was refused becasue she didn't ahve ID - was she breaking the law? IMO no, she isn't. But what would happen if she insited that she wanted the aclohol and the police were called? The customer isn't breaking the law,and as far as I know it isn't yet law to be over 25 to purchase alcohol, and the "over 25" thing isn't a law either. So what would the police do?
I also asked him when it became a national requirment to carry ID. I have neither a passport or driving licence, but it seems that I am going to need to get one, as I was recently refused money from My own bank account, as I didn't have my passport driving licence and utility bill with me!
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 14:38:31
They have taken this way way too far, I have to take my ID with me everytime I go to my local Tesco express to buy age restricted items.

Despite the fact that the staff there have already seen my driving licence a million times. Apparently they have to have it everytime in case someone from trading standards was in the queue hmm

And I know its not a huge deal carrying id with me, but it is ridiculous having to show it everytime. They don't even bother looking at it now, I pass it to them they pass it back hmm

bloody stupid imo
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 14:35:51
www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/Kent/documents/AE%20factsheets/Challenge%2025.pdf

This is a challenge 25 document if anyones interested in reading it.......again no mention of shops not serving you if you are accompanied by someone who looks underage so its obviously what we knew all along, shops making up bullshit that isnt actually true!
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 14:29:28
this is from direct.gov.co.uk

"It is against the law for anyone under 18 to buy alcohol in a pub, off-licence, supermarket, or other outlet, or for anyone to buy alcohol for someone under 18 to consume in a pub or a public place.

Some towns and cities have local by-laws banning drinking alcohol in public."

No mention of not being allowed to buy it if accompanied by a person under 18......I'd like to point out that challenge 25 is an optional scheme that retailers choose to follow.....its not the law.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 14:24:08
There was once a time when shop staff/call centres etc adopted a "the customer is always right" attitude, now they've gone the opposite way and the customer is always wrong! They need to find the right balance for this. My opinion (not checked anything for a fact) is that stores have to reasonably act within the law, therefore they cannot refuse to serve you any product without good grounds. I have the right to take whoever I choose to a shop with me and I have the right to buy any product I wish to do so if I'm legally entitled to buy it, regardless of who is accompanying me.

There is now a legal age for buying nail varnish removers etc (can't remember if its 16 or 18) but I've never had a shop assistant tell me I can't buy it as I have my 4 yr old daughter with me (who occasionally likes to wear mummys nail varnish) and they would be told in no uncertain terms where to shove their products if they ever tried!
that's the sort of thing that puzzles me Rusty
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 14:09:35
That's true Laurie, however, treating your precious customer as though they are guilty of some random, henious crime as your default position is no way to go. Particularly as the actual nature of the crime is changed on the whim of whomever makes these rules up whilst picking their nose in their ivory tower.

Life nowadays just gets more and more difficult and unpleasant for ordinary people who are just going about their business, and trying to live their humble lives.

I am forever saying to my kids that it was all so much more simple when I was their age.

And if it's unpleasant and humiliating for me at my age to be challenged on the contents of my trolley, how does it make the teenagers feel?

Teenagers nowadays are treated appallingly badly. If I want to take mine to the supermarket to help with my shopping and buy 500 litres of vodka at the same time, then that is my business.
I am personally known to a lot of the staff at our local Tesco - I live a couple of minutes walk away & have worked at the local school for years - so the odds are that the person serving me would know that I had teenagers - so do they refuse to sell to me in case it's for them? Or only after I've been refused because one of them is with me? And if so, at what point can they start selling it to me again - when are they allowed to forget I have teenagers?
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:58:37
it's not illegal to drink alcohol, just buying it
madness!
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:55:42
I was served wine in a Tesco Express, but the cashier then snatched the bag with the wine in out of the hand of my then 10 yo. I'd asked him to help me carry the shopping, but the cashier insisted it was illegal for him to carry the wine. Which is bollocks. They make it up as they go along.

I'm just waiting for someone to challenge me over alcohol when I'm doing a big shop, as I would then just leave all my stuff on the conveyor belt and walk out. I am over 18. They have no right to dictate what I can and can't buy or who I can have with me when I do it.
Stores can refuse to sell you anything for any reason kazzi.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:44:55
I'll openly admit I have been buying alcohol from the age of 15 and have rarely had a problem doing so, its ironic that as a teenager I always looked old for my age (not always an advantage as I had great difficulty getting on a bus at a childs price) yet as a (almost) 30 yr old I now get ID'd. It just shows how times have changed, or maybe I'm just having to make up for all the times I got away with buying alcohol as an underage teenager LOL

I don't see how stores have the right to refuse someone old enough to buy alcohol if they are accompanied by someone underage, as a law student its something I'll check out when I get chance.
yep, if I go out with DS and buy alcohol I don't expect to be challenged, and I'd hope the same would apply in 10 years time. Surely they should either ban the sale of alcohol to anyone with someone under 18 with them (nooooooo!) or they're expecting cashiers to be psychic. And I'd imagine there's a lot of judgement - "chav" mother buying cheap cider with a 13yo is more likely to be challenged than a middle class mum buying expensive wine, also with a 13yo. That's not right.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:41:37
Stealth, I agree some clarification is needed. One poster on the previous thread felt it was OK for the cashier to make a judgement about whether or not the parent was buying the alcohol for the teenager or not, but I'm not happy about the prospect of being judged every time I want to buy some wine. Would be even worse if I was buying for DH as his drink of choice in this weather is cider!
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:33:11
Oh and Kazzi...that has already happened I think!
Would love clarification on the situation where you have children with you - I really can't see how there's any sensible way to apply that
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:29:22
The problem is that they have taken this too far as usual, and now apply the '25' rule to mean that if you are purchasing alcohol and have a teenager within 50 miles of you then you are not allowed to purchase said alcohol without being subject to interrogation that would put MI5 to shame.

And you leave the supermarket feeling totally humiliated and as though you have just committed the criminal act of the century.

And of course nowadays, if you object at all to being treated like a third class citizen in a shop upon which you are bestowing your valuable custom , you are treated to their other 'rule'...the zero tolerance to loon customers who 'abuse' the staff.

Whatever happened to 'customer is king' (or 'queen', obviously)?
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:28:54
wow didn't expect it to get this many responses! ok, admit me boycotting tescos on my own is total drop in the ocean, but it makes me feel better

it wasn't the being initially refused that pissed me off, it was the continuing to be refused after dh had gone! that was just being jobsworth about it...

i see why they started doing challenge 25 (thanks for the link!) but ffs, this policy was not thought out first.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:28:20
I think the look 25 policy is ridiculous! One time I was Id'd the bloke said to me "you look over 21 but under 25 so I need to see your ID" Basically he was ID'ing me after admitting that I looked old enough to buy booze in the first place, not his fault he's just doing his job as told by the barmy people that make the rules! I was 28 at the time and gladly produced my ID but I can't help to think that in another few years some poor pensioner will be refused a little bottle of whiskey (or whatever his preference is) because he didnt produce ID that he was over 18 just because he happened to look under 75!
Eyeballs- no, but if they look under 25 they have to prove they're over 18. The law hasn't changed afaik but "if you look under 18 you have to provide ID" will allow far too many to slip through the net, and the ones who do will be younger. By making the "look" 25, there may be a few 16 and 17 yos slipping through the net, but not many younger.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:19:53
I'm 30 next week and constantly get asked for ID in Morrisons, I happily show it with a proud look on my obviously youthful looking face and off I go with my booze in my bags

As you were purchasing the alcohol (who's to say the 4 pack wasnt for you?) and proved you were old enough to buy it then Tesco are in the wrong! I would definately take it higher and likewise I would take my custom elsewhere.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:11:42
grin thumbwitch
I think YANBU as you had ID on you U18s (but over 5) are allowed to drink in the home so if its part of your weekly groceries why the problem. I haven't been asked for ID in over a year. I'm 28. It's pain in the arse I also passed my driving test before photo licences came in and have only recently aquired one.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:10:09
So when parents start to abandon their shopping at the checkout will Tesco rethink their policy?
when you open the bottle in the shop and give them a swig, FBG! grin

<must leave this thread now, am being too silly>
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 13:05:03
I sometimes shop with my kids aged 4-8 and buy wine. When will I be refused on that basis then?
well exactly - I mean, if you're buying alcohol for an underage teen, you're hardly going to advertise the fact by taking said teen with you, now are you!
Ditto said teen - not going to want to draw attention to themselves!
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:58:21
ahhh now you see none of them have ever followed me into the shop - I have been known to tell the more irritating and persistent of them to f*ck off especially when they ask me before I go in and AGAIN when I come out if I'll go in again for them blush
oh no, I know they do it - our local Threshers actually had to close down because of it (people were being threatened if they refused).
I wasn't laughing at that aspect of it, just the jobsworthiness that would mean you had to prove you were the parent of the sulky teen accompanying you.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:54:20
thumb - you can laugh - but I can honestly say that at least 2 times a week I am asked by random "yoofs" outside Morrisons and the local shop to buy them fags/alcohol. Actually it's been 3 times this week.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:52:30
LOL thumbwitch....one of them is fostered...I can never remember to take a bag with me, never mind birth certificates!!!!

Another thing that really gets to me while I am on this topic, is the assistants in Boots who question me when I want to buy paracetamol.

If I want to buy paracetamol it is no-ones business but mine. I very rarely shop in Boots now due to their fascism.
Maybe you have to carry their birth certificates with you to prove you are their mother and therefore rather less likely to be buying the alcohol for them than some random stranger they've hijacked off the streets just for that purpose?
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:45:54
I have had this several times recently. In different supermarkets.

I have teenagers, and have been refused alcohol purchases within my huge weekly shop because my teenagers are with me!!!

I am over 50!!!!

Said teenagers range from 16 to 19.

It is embarrassing and annoying.

I object to some random person questioning me about my shopping. And it is NOT illegal for my children to have a beer in my own and their home.

Another step along the way to a fascist state IMO.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:44:46
I posted on the other recent thread about this. I was asked for ID when buying wine in Sainsbury's. I had 15 year old DD with me. I couldn't understand what use ID would be as I am very clearly over 40 and I told the cashier DD was only 15. The cashier called the supervisor and she served me but TBH I still can't really see the point. It would seem to imply that if you want to buy alcohol you can't be accomapanied by a teenager.
I'm sorry, at the risk of pissing someone off who is bored with this discussion this is the first I've heard of this, and you're telling me that two 24 year olds can't buy alcohol? Madness.
it seems nuts anyway - even if he is under 25, he is still allowed legally to drink alcohol, and to buy alcohol - it's only if he's under 18 that he isn't - so I really DON'T see what Tesco are on about? Fair enough if you look under 25, ask for ID, but the rest of it is ludicrous.

Can't see any point in boycotting them if it makes life harder for you though. Unless you plan on standing outside with placards demanding justice for the 18-24 year olds.
My DP - who is 27 - had a cashier in Tesco refuse to sell him Ame, which is a sparkling soft drink, because she insisted it was red wine and he looked under 25 to her and didn't have ID (he was without his driving licence as he was waiting for his new one)! He eventually sorted it out with a supervisor, but FFS! Good job it wasn't the really hard stuff, like Appletiser! wink
Ok, there is one thing on this thread I am a bit confused about.

Say I buy wine and I have i.d. with me but I also have dd with me (who is 11) - at one point does the shop not sell me alcohol in case I'm trying to give it to a child?

It seems very arbitrary to say if you have a 14 year old with you, you could give it to them but a 3 year old, not.

I would be furious if I was doing the family shop and someone refused to sell me alcohol because an 11 year old was with me. And then if I told her to wait in the car they still refused to serve it to me even if I had i.d.

To me they are then assuming I would be carrying out a criminal act just because a child was with me.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:28:08
NO ONE will ever mistake me for under 25 (pats wiry grey roots and gets up for smooth on anti-wrinkle creme).
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:25:10
"don't have a driving licence so I have to bring my passport out if I want to go and buy a bottle of wine - this is ludicrous."

no you don't - I don't have a driving licence either but most shops that sell alcohol now have a leaflet you can pick up to get a basic proof of age ID card thingy. (can't remember what it's called as sadly i haven't been asked for proof of age for years).
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:23:14
Basically the law is asking a cashier to use their judgement and then be penalised fairly heftily if they get that judgement wrong. You can't really blame said cashier for being overly cautious even if it is annoying.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:19:07
earlyriser......My record was a 32 year old mother of 3!!! She was suitably flattered and I was suitably blush
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:16:28
Believe me as much as you hate being asked for id, I hated asking for it. When I used to work selling age restricted items (cigarettes in my case) I have been subjected to verbal abuse and threats of physical attack merely for trying to protect myself from a criminal record and a fine which I wouldn't have been able to pay. And I have to say that, in most cases, in my very long experience the ones who kick up the biggest fuss are quite often not old enough.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:15:24
Just out of curiosity what beer were you buying? Just wondering if you had a £20 bottle of wine or malt whisky would that have made a difference?
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:13:34
Yes i just got id'd (?) in tesco and i'm 36 ffs (and look every year of it!) twas flattered but also v glad i had my driving licence with.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:06:35
Something similar happened to me and DH a while back and he was 29!

He was embarrassed at the time(I was pissing myself laughing) but he just laughed it off afterwards.

I'm not sure there's much you can do about it - boycott them if you like.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 12:00:27
I think it absolutely stinks and I hate the "you should feel flattered!" bollocks. I am a fairly, though not stupidly, young-looking 29 and to be able to be refused to do something that is ENTIRELY LEGAL and has been for me for 11 years makes me really angry. I don't have a driving licence so I have to bring my passport out if I want to go and buy a bottle of wine - this is ludicrous.

I don't look 18, no cashier has ever, ever thought I was under 18 but even though they know I'm not, they can still refuse to sell me something? I'm sorry, but that's just a bizarre situation. By all means ID people who look under 18 but 25 is too far.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:58:22
Oh, so we are only allowed to have one converswation about a subject?
Sorry, didn't realise we were boring you
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:54:43
oh god, here we go again.

I suggest you hit search, there have been some debates on this in here recently that cover everything.

I cant be arsed to go round in circles over the law again.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:50:01
See the law is vague isn't it? If someone from trading standards believes that in their opinion it was reasonable to assume that the cashier should have known an overage person was buying the alcohol for someone underage then they will and have prosecuted. Imagine the teenager sending in their older mate to buy alcohol for them scenario. The problem is big supermarkets (not just Tesco btw) then lose persepctive and you get situations where a mother accompanied by their teenager doing the weekly shop gets refused her bottle of wine. The problem is with the law and how, in certain cases, it has been interpreted which is making retailers over cautious...some would say understandibly given that they are being blamed by some for all the alcohol problems in society. The "challenge 25" thing is fairly recent so I think you can probably expect some over zealous application for a while !
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:38:33
But I don't understand this magic figure of 25.
Trying to guess if someone is under 25 is a lot harder than trying to guess if someone is under 18.

So, now we all need passports to go to Tesco to do our weekly shop, as DD is 12 and DS is 19 but looks younger.
so they can refuse to sell yo you if you have your teenage children with you?
yes, so the thing is if you look under 25 you have to prove you are over 18.
Can see the logic - after all there are 16/17 year olds who look like adults, but in the OP's case it would be annoying!
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:26:22
"I even had the duty manager try to tell me that the law prevents him selling alcohol to someone accompanied by anyone under 25 . This is bollocks, the offence is for the buyer to then give the alcohol to someone under 18, not to sell alcohol to someone who is accompanied by an under 25."


You are wrong. (although in truth it's the fact that your dh had no id not that he's under 25 that's the problem) The cashier can be prosecuted if it can be reasonably proved that she had reason to believe you were buying the alcohol for someone underage yet still sold it. As she had asked your dh for id she obviously had doubts and you state that the drink was for him. It could be considered reasonable to assume that a parent accompanied by a young child was not buying the alcohol for them but if that child was a teenager then they should expect to have to prove their age or leave them at home. My ds has been asked for id when he was helping me with the weekly shop. The wine was for me not him but I don't have a problem with this. As it happens he is 18.
I love the way you and others who post simmilar experiences, assume that the cashier has some sort of crystal ball and knows everything about your family. How was she supposed to know you were married and what difference does that make? You can legally marry with your parent's consent at 16. It is incredibly hard to judge someones age...at my age everyone looks young! And the cashier is taking a considerable personal risk. They will be fined and get a criminal record. Yes the store may also be fined/penalised but the cashier is personally responsible for making sure they don't sell either directly or indirectly to anyone underage. I think yabu to expect the cashier to risk a fine and a criminal record to avoid your dh's embarrassment. As it happens in your case she wouldn't have been breaking the law because your dh wasn't underage but as she is the one taking the risk it's her judgement that matters.
Could you not look at it another way that looking young is infact a compliment and just both carry id?
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:25:49
but under 25's are not children
under 18's are
it seems a strange way to go about it
the under 21 scheme has been successful, why not concentrate on that
it is not illegal to buy alcohol for under 25's
it is a stealth scheme to get us all to carry ID
I don't have a driving licence and I certainly don't want to carry my passport around (I don't look under 25 either but that's besides the point)
still think it's barking
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:25:41
such bollocks. You don't even have to be 18 to drink alcohol.

It's all part of an evil Labour party plot to fit us all out with ID cards.
Were you buying just beer? Sometimes this can raise alarm.

If I were you, I would call the store manager, go with DP and have him bring in ID.

Writing to the head office, I can guarantee you will get a letter to the effect that the staff were reasonable in refusing to sell it, and within their rights to do so.

You and your DP obviously look young. smile
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:14:12
heres what its all about challenge 25
Boycott it by all means but Tesco are successful enough for your boycott to be only a hassle for you!
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:08:36
gosh
how pathetic
since when do we have to be 25 to buy alcohol?
ThaTesco that was at fault should have it's licence taken away and the rest of us left to live in common sense land.
FWIW, that part of Blackpool is rough.
25? where does that come from?
YANBU
Boycott Tesco and send a leeter of complaint.
Unworkable policies.
There is a world of difference between a 16 year old and a 24 year old.
The world has gone mad!
I love getting IDed (especially at the moment as my 30th is coming up!) but it does irritate me when I need the alcohol I'm trying to buy - eg. when I dashed into M&S to get it as a last minute birthday present for my cousin - wasn't going to get another chance to give it to her as was on the way down to see her
did he have ID which proved he was over 18?
If not, they were within their rights, but I can totally see why you were annoyed!
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:05:19
I got refused in several places last time I went out and I am 32 ffs!

I just took it as a bit of flattery. Until I was in the pub my friend owns and got refused, I went and hunted him down!

YABU, they will get fined if they get it wrong. Or lose their licence. The pub I got refused in had been caught twice selling to under 18 believing they were over 18.
No you are not being unreasonable - turtle23, neither op or her dh are under 18. I buy alcohol most weeks in supermarket blush accompanied by my 2 year old. Never been refused/prosecuted yet!

Pursue your complaint hopinalways, manager must have completely misunderstood training.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:04:57
i can see why you're pissed off but can't you both carry some id with you in future and be glad that you both obviously look so dewey skinned and youthful?
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:04:25
Did your husband have ID on him to prove he was over 18? If he didn't then yes YABU.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:03:53
writing not unreasonable

boycotting them will not really acheive much. it's like me boycotting Mel Gibson movies because of his mysoginistic outburst a few years ago - I'm sure he's afeard grin
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:01:29
sory I think you;re being unreasonable, I can see why yo;d be embaraased but to be honest just laugh it off. If you feel you want to shop elsewhere then fine but I really don;t think Tesco are going to be that bothered.

How did they know you weren;t from the council testing the if you look under 25 rule.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 11:01:18
if he looked under 25 but PROVED he was over 18 there is no problem surely. The point is he is OVER 18 which is the legal age to buy booze.

Boycott Tesco if you must. But I certainly would be writing a letter of complaint
Yes, you are being unreasonable. There isa reason why this is being done.
www.24dash.com/news/Local_Government/2009-03-27-Tesco-fined-6-000-for-repeatedly-selling-alcohol-to- under-age-customers
Shop elsewhere if you need to.
yeah fucking idiots
yeah fucking idiots
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 10:52:10
I am 24. My dh is 24. the other week our local tesco refused to allow me to by dh a 4 pack of beer because "your husband looks under 25". I had already proved I was over 18, and while DH could pass for 20 if he lied he does not look 17. and I do not look like a cradle snatcher. He was wearing his wedding ring ffs!

I even had the duty manager try to tell me that the law prevents him selling alcohol to someone accompanied by anyone under 25 hmm. This is bollocks, the offence is for the buyer to then give the alcohol to someone under 18, not to sell alcohol to someone who is accompanied by an under 25.

DH left the store in humilation. They still refused to serve me even though I was now accompanied by nobody. A man in his 50s offered to get the beer for me, and this was refused as "we know her husband is under 25 and the beer is for him". They then allowed a women to buy a bottle of wine, accompanied by a 3 yr old (with a very good faked driving license?hmm)

I am writing to tesco HQ to inform them that their challenge 25 policy is being taken to hte nth degree by idiots. This has led to me taking my custom to their competitors, costing them several thousand pounds a year.

AIBU to now refuse to shop in tesco for ruining my dh evening, embarrassing him in public and for generally behaving like morons?
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