Who the hell resurrected this thread?!

How BORING!

"And f*ck you if you don't agree" - what a sweetheart. You'll go far with that kind of attitude I'm sure.

Ooooh - night of the Living Thread!

THis thread is two years old....

Sorry I shouldn't have commented. I totally know that the OP is flippant but it hurt for a moment then. Sorry.

Will fuck off.

Yes, because having health problems make you really interesting don't they

I'm so dull I've replied to the water in the bootom of the fridge thread

[yawn]

as someone whos had to resort to incontinence underwear cos when the urge comes i have to go like within minutes and get freek by loo cues. it realy isnt funny. but if you think about the amount of products boots and tena etc sell its not unusual either. weird though how you can sit over coffee and discuss hay fever. but bladders generate so much embarassment and taboo. we need to see it as a normal part of life and get less hung up

i luurrve vol-u-vants, or whatever they are called. Oh and those looooovely dips from tesco with bits of curled up carrot. Oh and dont forget the sausage rolls and mini scotch eggs - nice!

Canapes? any good spread has vol-au-vents, chicken legs and galric bread. GARLIC BREAD!

have a good flight talula, remember to lead them all in the birdie song and agadoo, dont try and deny it, you'll be there, dancing with your dodgy aunties and berating the canapes.

Zipping in and out today, supposed to be working...
LEM, I didn't find the M&T thread boring. Hope I wasn't supposed to. I found it reassuring, funny and brave. I am not alone - sometimes I just feel it! I have done my years of M&T, I am an old hag who may or may not be pre-menopausal, I avoid tiny people at all costs.
On a boring note, as much as I have fought to stop the onslaught of bore over the years, I now know that in every household some poor b**r has to deal with the boring stuff. Life is much easier when you deal with the boring stuff, it's a grave mistake to ignore the boring stuff. It has to be dealt with. So whilst I am aware that people are dealing with life/death and everything in between on other threads (and sometimes I could cry for them) the boring, some might say silly, stuff is also important.
As the long lamented (or at least his bum is) Michael Hutchence said:

"Say I'm crying, looking at
What's on TV [or on mumsnet]
Pain and suffering and the
struggle to be free,
It can never be denied, nor
Will I ever ignore
But when I see you [lot] coming
I can take it all"

oh yeah, alot of people addicted to bb. probably ok 1st series, but now its become a freak show, with loonies just wanting their 5 minutes of fame. but its all that sitting around they do, and the camera stays on one person for like 5 minutes and their just sitting there! whats that all about?
no, im more into xfactor. much more upmarket anyway lem, you'll be pleased to hear that tm and little tm are flying out of uk tonight for a family wedding. will be gone 10 days. when i get back i hope to find the topics on here suitably boring or i'll be bloody f**king well miffed!!!!
great talking to you lem, you better be here when i get back.

i do now, i used to be addicted to it, but i have got some really intelligent friends, freakishly so and they are addicted

lem; lol! know what you mean. most members of mn have had some sort of go at me, but you, lorayn and maybe one or two others are so seriously cool, you read between the lines and know that im as boring as the next person, ( actually would rather talk about the fruit fly than toasters) i'll never read the good housekeeping section,
really will lose the will to live!

btw; never really been into big brother, find it all a bit......... chavvy x x

TM - i could talk for hours on the nervous system development of the fruit fly, but you might find that more boring than toasters to be honest.

The thing is, alot of design and engineering goes into designing toasters, there must be a little man in a dark room somewhere wracking his brains as we speak trying to think of a new concept in scorching bread.

I think you should take a look at the good housekeeping FLY threads if you want a good laugh - now that i've never understood,. But thats just me, i'm not very domesticated.I would have thought there plenty of ammo for you there Bit suspect of the style threads too - its all i have time to do to tie my hair back in a dodgy looking pony tail in the mornings (thats not parenthood, ive always been like that), i dont look at lots of threads because TO ME they are boring.

Nah, i'd rather spend my time baiting you

Vikkin - if you think my M&T thread was boring, you should actuaully go to M&T - lol.

Seriously though, this is why im so bloody addicted to mumsnet, because, just like in real life, when you are with a group of people you feel comfortable with, you do discuss lots of inane rubbish as well as the serious stuff. I can remember some very heated conversations in our tea bar at uni (now we are talking serious tefal heads here) about the latest goings on in big brother. I dont watch it anymore as i dont have anyone to discuss the boring complexities of it, you know, like, did she really fuck him in the swimming pool? What a slapper, that sort of thing.

lorayn; miss you too. x

I thought you were leaving. You will not be missed.

lorayn; fgs lighten up!

Gosh tm, I really hope you never have any troubles, how the heck is incontinence something to laugh about?? It is rare for the threads on here to be piss takes believe it or not. And btw, I never talk to strangers on the bus.

completely agree, read a thread last night about someone that keeps wetting herself. not sure if she was taking the piss ( if you pardon the pun) but really is time tm left the building. will leave you to your topics on incontinence and toasters. god knows what you'll be talking about when your old, just hope im not sitting next to you on the bus.

well said lorayn!i think valum might help slip it in the pot noodle!!

we arent saying you were a name changer, maybe schizophrenic or suffering from a multiple personality disorder though

It really isnt nice or good manners to keep telling people they're boring, if we want to talk kitchenware, we will.

Maybe you should take your own advice 'if you cant think of anything interesting to say, just say nothing' Cos tbh, constantly berating our topic of conversation certainly isn't interesting

Good cop, bad cop, all in one neat package

still cant understand why you dont think im real ? what am i then, something fron outer space. i meant everything i said in original op, and the only difference between me and the talula you thought i was, is the amount of children i have and the fact that i have a dh, big deal! and can i say this for the last time, i am not a name changer. do you really think id still be carrying this on

of course i give my kids pot noodles, whats wrong with that. at the time of original op i never mentioned anything about how many kids i had or wheather i was married or had a FB. infact the only fibs i told was about just having one child and being a single mum, which really didnt have any baring on outcome of thread as a whole, or maybe it did.? maybe thinking i was a single parent gave some of you a bit more ammunition. it was interesting.

Gwad?

break it up folks

<races back into room>
Oh Gwad, you're at it again. This is just NOT what boring people do.
Just spent ages reading an old thread about losing your sex drive.
Am now going to re-read that thread from a couple of weeks ago about the M&T groups, remember that one LEM. What a laugh.
Am I boring you yet?

lem; never be boring. how can you carry on if your chatting and people start falling asleep! believe me 99% of people dont want to talk about kitchen appliances. if you cant think of anything interesting to say, just say nothing. you've got plenty of time to talk crap when your 60. and i mean this in a nice way, cos i know your really a talula underneath.

Actually you told lots of fibs, you said you had an fb, no dh, you only had 'talula', I could go on an don. No-one ever mentioned where you lived btw.

I think also, if you read back the threads loads of us said at some point 'is she for real' which obviously you weren't.

Please tell me the Pot Noodle bit was real, though

lorayn; lucyellensmum had me sussed from the start but actually not really a wind up. 95% of what was said was true. it was just interesting to see how people reacted to information. most didnt get my jokes within jokes, but no, not total wind up. i do shop in iceland, but i also shop in john lewis. i never actually mentioned where i lived, i left that for you lot to decide

Oh believe me, if im offered boring or turbulent, i'll take boring over and over and over until im bored. I like being boring, if other people think i am boring thats fine, but im not bored, just boring.

This thread is the best ever, dont you forget it. But seriously apparently talulasmum was on a windup.

lem; actually i do have a toaster, and its a very nice one.

but one thing im not is boring, call me bonkers, crazy, and the million other things ive been called, but not that. the day i buy a le crusty thing i'll admit defeat.

As much as I WANT to do the pans again, I have turned over a new leaf and am trying to be less boring.
Now dh has gone back to work for an hour (I know, how boring) I've been scanning the threads and have found that - some people on MN live a very different life to my boring one.
Someone's having a rat problem.
Someone's dp has been at the webporn again. It's all happening out there.
I am never sure whether this thread is going seriously tits-up again, are y'all just gently teasing tonight?

she wont buy le creuset though.

well vikkin, it turns out, that talula, does not in fact have a dd called talula (theres a surprise) and she lives in suburbia, with a posh toaster (well not quite sure about the toaster) So she is as boring as the rest of us.

Good lord, are you all still at it? I never got anywhere near MN after our giggles on Friday night.
Are we any nearer a conclusion on the pans, or shall I just bog off?
What are we finding boring just now?

me too sue baroo- maybe it is all in the name?
What i dont' understand is how people can be so strident in their views and cannot seem to accept that we are all different. The confrontational nature of some of the postings is quite shocking- what happened to female solidarity? Or are we really always just trying to score points off one another

I'm very, very boring, and I usually only come on MN when I'm having a crap time, because I know folk will be about and someone will acknowledge my existence.

*prepares for thread death in 3...2...1...*

Ha, yh, I have been on a couple of threads like that, one about a woman shouting at her newborn baby (understandable totally, but when one person said it was unreasonable, everyone went doolally) and another recently about a pregnant girl applying for a job but not telling the employer until she had been offered it and had the contract in her hand (which I said was underhand). You end up deciding to just leave it be even though you know what you're saying makes perfect sense!!

And as for the benefits one, I guarantee a lot of people on that thread break the law or see someone else break the law regularly, but there is no way on earth they would have admitted it to you.

i know what you mean, sometimes you want to just give your opinion and walk away, but then you see some arse has tried to make you look an idiot, and you just have to tell them to f**k off! (well i do anyway!) just had to forget the benefit fraud thread, too many wankers on it.

I am on a thread atm (in breast/bottle feeding) where I cannot simply hush my views, sometimes I find it really hard not to just say OMFG ARE YOU SERIOUS???

Other times I start to write a message and just close the window cos I really can't be bothered

I just think that we start the whole AIBU threads because we don't have our friends to rant at, i mean, you may say it if you were sitting next to them but the computor is the nearest we have - lol. I love the AIBU threads as some of them are good for a giggle, the others do get me rather wound up, i do TRY not to get drawn into it, but sometimes, as in RL i just can't keep my mouth shut

lorayn; oh yeah, some of them i read just for a laugh, but i think oh for god sake get a life. no one, i mean NO ONE can be that boring, but all life is on here, which makes it great.

TM, there are soo many threads I just totally bypass, but some arghhh, they get me really het up and I end up telling DP the whole story, I'm surprised he hasn't made his own mn name!!

oh yeah, think its great if you need some support, and if you want to talk about something you think friends/family wont understand or just not be interested in. also some of the subjects on this section are really interesting, but will never have time for the "aibu to be upset because someone looked at me a bit funny" but it can get a bit addictive. as for the online affair, nah, rather talk to you lot.

Ha, TM, my DD is at school, DS is nearly 3 and loves nothing more than lego, so he is normally quite intent on ignoring me!! I am rarely online weekends for more than about ten minutes, same goes for after about 2pm, but just lately DP has been having an affair, with a PS3, so I am an oblivionwidow

i spend far too much time on here, its actually a problem!!! I tend to hop on when dd eating brekkie or having her nap, she has three hours a day, but always feel as if i have wasted my time tbh. Saying that, there are some serious topics and posts and i have recieved a lot of support on here for which i am grateful. I think we all just crave adult company. My DP i think would prefer if i were having an online affair, i mean, at least that would be a bit more exciting and i might be a tad horny afterwards

ps; sorry about crap spelling again, trying to do 3 things at once!

lem; no other alias, really have'nt been around that long have'nt posted before as nothing to say really. but what i found strange is the topics you chat about hence original thread, also how do you get the time! my kids are all at ft school now so ive got a little bit of spare time but when they were young i didnt have time to go for a s**t. ive spent alot of time on here this past week, dh things im having an online affair (seriously1) kids think its great as im neglecting their homework etc. honestly, dont know how you do it. maybe its an art?

TM was on another one I am on too, about grassing on a benefits cheat.

don't worry TM, thickness transcends the class barrier!!

One thing puzzles me though, i've not seen your name crop up on other threads, well only if they have boring in the title. It makes me wonder if you have another alias.

Lorayn - your Sunday, sounded blissfull, im quite honestly, sounds like a perfick day.

Nooooooooooooooooooo, talulasmum, you can't be!!!!!

I was going round all the local argos' trying to find you

lem; well, i did try and give it away half way through original thread, but no one noticed!....im happily married (10 years) and i actually have 4 kids! 2 ds & 2 dds. but i am very working class and a bit thick!

Oh what a wonderfully boring day I'm having!!!
I have been to the market to get some veg and fruit, played scrabble, been blackberry picking , cooked a roast, played jenga and am waiting for my crumble to cook so I can scoff yet more food
Then it's time for a nice hot bath, and maybe some more scrabble.

I LOVE BEING BORING!!!!!!!

yep, totally!!

So, tell us, what are you REALLY like, how many children do you have etc, are you a SAHM? Married? Living in sin? or do you just have lots of FBs

its "cathkidston" and she does very nice tea towels.

lem; so, sussed from the start was i

The thing that got me talula, is that in my dd's maisy book, its spelt tallulah!!!! i thought, hmmmm But yes, very entertaining.

Me? I live in a ramshackle terrace in a very trendy town. I can't be doing with cath kidson or however you spell it. Le crusuet? Nah, too heavy. But i still want that toaster!!!!

lol talula

3andnomore; no not a name changer, get into enough trouble being one person let alone two!

oh talula...are you a name changer though ???? ;)
Your post made me lol...what are you like...

lem; actually cover is starting to get blown. i must admit, i live in a nice semi in a (fairly) posh london suburb, it has a very large garden with apple tress and everything! i admit to having kathkidston handwash in the bathroom, and to buying bedding from the white company. but..... i have NEVER owned a le cruestty thing, and never will. its been a real laugh this thread, and an eye opener if i must say! but one thing ive learnt... your not boring at all...in fact... your all fantastic, and i hope to bore (opps sorry,) chat along with you for many a year.
x x x

And join scrabulous!!!

i have a pretend metal fridge freezer!!!

Talula, you can only be me if you give up the inverted snobbery and admit to being the boden wearing, le crusuet owning, times reading, middle class alpha mummy that i aspire to be.

You try saying that when you had to go out and buy everything again, in white, thank god I didnt go for the cheap grey (pretend metal) that came out in its place.

WHITE goods are called WHITE goods for a reason

lem; lucy..am i you... are you me.. are we the same?

Its better that way lorayn, cruel to be kind!

Yes, I had everything in dark green, my kettle, my toaster, my fridge freezer, my pots n pans, my sandwich maker,my microwave, my tumble dryer, and when I went to buy the washing machine.............
THEY STOPPED FLIPPING MAKING IT!!!

my daughter calls the argos catalogue, the laminated book of dreams, in a strange wistful voice, i think its a bill bailey take off, but anyway. Weren't argo guilty of making everyone have dark blue or green kitchen ware? nice

lem; omg lucy, please dont tell me ive become.........boring!

oh btw, i actually looked in the argos catalogue today for one of those le cruset things and i couldnt find any. so if argos dont sell them they cant be that good, because argos sell EVERYTHING.

ROTFL - i believe thats 1:0 to ME then because I was joking so ner ner ner ner, you dont get ME, or maybe i get you better than you think mwaahhh

fb i like it !

lem; it was a JOKE lucy! why is it after all this time you dont get my humour!

You see thats the thing with people, because believe it or not, some people, would find that really, um, how can i put this.............................................boring!!!

oh lucy, i love you! lol "fb" do you think munsnet would allow it!

you bet baby! 3 times a week, meet up & fuck each others brains out. works well for both of us.

There you are, i've introduced a new acronym - FB = !!!!

ooh TM do you have a fuck buddy?

lucy; lol shame about the polish guy, but actually i am "involved" with someone. he doesnt live with me so dont refer to him as my dp. not sure what you lot would call him.

lucky, some would say !!

oh and the guy next door? nah, bypassed by the sexy gene im afraid. Hey ho.

whats wrong with that thread talula, i havent seen it though, i would have been straight in there. There is a very fine line with tea and coffee for me, i dont like it too hot but once it goes too cold it makes me want to vomit.

I have been thinking about starting a thread entitled AIBU - to want to have a shit in peace? Now dd is potty training and clingy i dont even get to do that in peace anymore!!!!!

sugarmatches; back to your original op, ive never owned a pair of sequined thongs in my life thank you very much.
btw; theres a great one on here today.
aibu; "to want a cup of tea that isnt cold"
oh god bless you all

I dont have asda, we only have tesco in town, about ten of them, but the parking is terrible, and DP prefers the pasta salad from sainsbury so we go to the next town.
We do however, have argos.
LEM, I love some country music, dolly parton is wicked!!
I also have some more recent alt-country like mary gaulthier and lucinda williams.
Actually I love a bit of anything really. My last.fm is always filled with totally contrasting stuff.

sugarmatches; tottenham.....fucking hell even i wouldnt live there!

lem; is the polish guy good looking?

I don't think it is a proper Asda though. And tbh, there are probably loads of places in London that have those 2 shops together

There is an Asda and an Argos near me too...in Tottenham.
Are we all neighbours?

ooh you lucky girl!!!

fuck me talula, have you thought, we could be neighbours!!! But hang on, my neighbour is a single polish guy, well??????

lem; my asda is next door to an argos too! these town planners are bloody cleaver.

nite nite x x x

mrsweasley; you've got some strong competition here mate! stepford wives have got alot to answer for!!

i dont know about where you are T but i just cant be doing with Asda, the acoustics are terrible. No, really, its just so loud, everything echos. Oh, thats just the building then. But it is just over the car park from Argos. But anyway, im going to stay home and wait for my betterware catalogue to plop onto the mat, it'l be kleeneze on monday, and then, ooooh Avon on tuesday wooooo

I do boring really well

lucyellensmum; lol not into country music. i just find it a little bit... (how can i put it)........boring. ps. im going to asda in the morning do you need anything?

They sure do honey, they sure do

that is fantastic!!!!
btw I always have something by Dolly on my mp3 (usually Jolene). Everybody needs a little country!!

Being Boring

If you ask me 'What's new?', I have nothing to say
Except that the garden is growing.
I had a slight cold but it's better today.
I'm content with the way things are going.
Yes, he is the same as he usually is,
Still eating and sleeping and snoring.
I get on with my work. He gets on with his.
I know this is all very boring.

There was drama enough in my turbulent past:
Tears and passion-I've used up a tankful.
No news is good news, and long may it last,
If nothing much happens, I'm thankful.
A happier cabbage you never did see,
My vegetable spirits are soaring.
If you're after excitement, steer well clear of me.
I want to go on being boring.

I don't go to parties. Well, what are they for,
If you don't need to find a new lover?
You drink and you listen and drink a bit more
And you take the next day to recover.
Someone to stay home with was all my desire
And, now that I've found a safe mooring,
I've just one ambition in life: I aspire
To go on and on being boring.

-- Wendy Cope


This is honest to god, my favourite poem, i am definately aspiring to that sort of boredom after a rough couple of years

oh ffs girls, what is going on, how can i join in a conversation about music when i have the greatest country hits plugged into my cd rom.

Do i think your chavvy talula, well no of course not, im just miffed you didnt offer me that lift to argos.

lorayn; ps; congratulations on pregnancy!
hope all goes well

lorayn; not really into pete dochertys music ( when he makes any) but libertines were ok.

No, we have a ps3, halo is for the xbox, atm there arent many ps3 games, dp just got oblivion, but next year loads of crappy ones come out

Not Halo 3?!
Thank God I talked dh into the Wii, there aren't that many games!!

Can't get to the television, Dp is too busy rescuing the world from Oblivion.

oooh QI!!! luuuuurve Stephen Fry. Luuurve Alan Davies.

I love Linkin Park. My nephew in the States has met Chester! He was a huge fan, but now his favourite is My Chemical Romance.
Kids today, eh? No loyalty.

At this point I think I should let you all know that QI is on at 10pm

Its usually Quite Interesting but after this......

I meant sober

You'd get on well with my DP talulasmum, he loves massive attack/muse and linkin park, I'm more of a libertines girl myself. Seeing babyshambles in november and cannot wait, although I'll have to be sover as will be 6 months preggers!! Bloody gigs, was sober when we went to see Lostprophets in april too, cos DP drove.

actually, im not really into keane, think their borderline shite, but "this is the last time" is a good song, down load it onto your ipod and listen. coldplay are rubbish agree. im more into muse, massive attack, but also think linkin park are awesome. im also london born and bred, but that doesnt mean i dont think about lonely women in scotland.

i've always been all or nothing though!!! So either blatant slut or TOTALLY mind numbingly boring!!!

I dont think I was ever a blatant slut, more of a kinda-obvious after a few slut.

Boring is the new black don't you know...

MMM, biscuits. I actually ate frosting out of the tub the other day. I almost vomitted, so i do not recommend it to any of you. I saw it in Waitrose and I thought it was the perfect solution to my laziness over making dd a birthday cake. I can do the cake, but I cannot do frosting. So I buy the tub and end up eating 2 spoonfuls of it. How disgusting is that??

I will hang my head in shame while you all judge me.

after years of being rocker, goth, punk, biker, blatant slut . . . i am now truly happy being .. . .. .boring?

Totally boring misty, It's so middle class, I love it!!!! I have had to be preggers, and put up with 10 weeks of non-stop vomitng for my le creuset!!
We only take card here dahling.

Misty, I can honestly say that is one of the most boring posts on this entire thread!

thanks. but is it 'boring' enough?!?!?

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he's been a &*(% all week and instead of whining shouting or moaning I've just upped the ante each day by doing more work (don't shoot me down til I get to the good bit - I'm no doormat). Last night i practically collapsed with exhaustion (In seriousness i've had nasty nasty cold which historically have put me in hospital). He gor very very worried and felt really rather guilty. Hence credit card, bottle of wine, fry up (mmmm next time fry up in le creuset!!!) many many cuddles and the biscuit tin is firmly in MY lap!!! (I may even get lucky tonight!)

ooo misty, go you!!!
Put a rechargeable battery in the toaster, then turn it on, it will fuse your house and blow the toaster, then you can say you dont know what happened, since the house fused the toaster has stopped working, DH will think it was just the electrics in the toaster.
Btw, I know this from experience, DS did it to our toaster, little shit!

i would love one of the kettles that changes colours but i have to kill the tacky lava lamp loving voice in my head and be a grown up

Not sure doodle, but I think you use one of those glass boilers in a pan.

just ordered my le creuset from the amazing discounted prices from amazon. (Even better than a discount - dh gave me his card - without me asking!!!). Woo hoo.

Sounds like MN Lorayn!!

Just a teeny joke... <whispers "not it's not">

I am being serious here, though I really hate to have to qualify that, but I really want a dualit toaster. There is a really pretty pink one that does 4 slices. I just really like it sooo much and wish that I could tamper with our toaster in some way to break it without dh being any the wiser.

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lol sugar, we seem to have a farmer who has little cliques, there are four cows outside our house, but half way up the road, there are some more and if you drive round the other side there are another 4/5. They don't seem to get on.

lol lorayn!might just be worth investing in if that doesnt work i could always blame the oven

very sly amy.
I could learn a thing or two from you. I just tell everyone "look, I am a crap cook!". Thanks to my LC (Le Creuset will be known by me as LC in my sad attempt to be exclusive) I have no excuses.

Vikkin, I live in London too!!
We have cows outside our window as well Lorayn, but the ones we have are dressed up as tarts and are stumbling out of the pub.

Just popped back in what I insist (just to wind up dh) on referring to as 'the interval' of the rugby. I am resolutely ignoring any elements of this convo that are not to do with pans and/or other cooking utensils. LEsmum... perhaps if your rabbit could double as a whisk for whipping cream or egg whites (e.g. to make tiramisu - my speciality) then it might be worth the money. Otherwise I'd go for the toaster. (But then I am quite food-motivated... )

lol but amy, if you burn the Le Creuset, you can say, oh its okay, its the iron, not me and then tell DH about the lifetime guarantee.

if i buy expensive pans and burn them i only have myself to blam if i buy cheap ones i can hold my head up high whilst saying cheap piece of crap ruined our dinner hehe

lol, amy, we must pan research together!!

I like my village, I have cows outside my front window.
And no-one is missing anything about keane, they are like a happy shopper version of snow patrol, minus the nice voices and guitars.

i am nice wasnt being sarky am loving the relaxed chat here today

Just for the record.
Over the years I have invested loads of money is all sorts of parenting books, from Miriam Stoppard to Steve thingummyjig. They were quite interesting, especially some of the pictures in Miriam's pregnancy and birth books.
However, I come to the conclusion that small persons are just plain strange. You just have to muddle through until one day you realise they are not acting so strange. This is a definite sign that they are growing up.
I'm sorry to confess I don't know much about Keane. I suppose I am not keen on Keane. I don't know what this says about my social standing and quite frankly my dear I don't give a damn. I am not a sheep (though some may say I look like one) I have no need to follow.
I don't live on a croft, or in a remote village, or in a small town. I am London born and bred. Never lived further than 12 miles from No 10. But my observation is that it is possible to feel very isolated in the city. And if I have to feel isolated I am sure it's nicer to look out upon the bens and lochs than the druggies and muggies.
Cor, look, I can be serious.

amy! surely you arent going to cause trouble and make it 'kick off' you seemed like such a nice lady

everybody smile before it kicks off on such a nice little thread although you lot have made me rethink my black bottomed pots

Wipsa bar??
Sounds intriguing.

I'm fine sugar, watched abit of 'stenders, had me chip shop tea and am now ordering..............

















wait for it....................
















WIPSA BARS!!!!

Just popped back on and OMG!!
Please...

The latest le Creuset conversation was not even a joke, as far as I was concerned anyway. Lorayn is going to buy some and we were just giving advice.

Talulasmum - just to let you know, as you are new and may not know, there is a lovely parenting section that is filled with MNers who would probably love to discuss this topic at length. Just click "here" at the top to start a new thread. You will probably get much more enjoyment out of chatting to people of like minds who regularly post on the parenting/behaviour/adult non-fiction threads. Of course, some people here tonight do post on them, but this is not really the right thread if you want to get the most out of what you want to discuss.

on the whole "just to stir things up".

I am honestly finished being offended by any comments made on this thread. Say whatever you want and I shall just

Lorayn, I have not left you alone with all of this forever, just had my dins!!

I think my pans mostly came from sainsburys but at least a decade ago and they are still perfect.

I love teflon pans (NB... why among the emoticons isnt there a little heart?).

Mine are all aquired from supermarkets. All bloody wonderful... I actually enjoy washing them up as it all just comes off with a swish. Teflon wok is brilliant.

I have a parenting book called something like How to help your procrasting child. I'm not 100% sure because I never got round to reading it.

Phew, you lot are back.
Truly Doodle have a look at the Tesco Finest. The milkpan is non-stick but the larger ones aren't. But they clean up really well. I am known to be very heavy-handed with my cookware but these are at least a year old and they're doing really well.

exdp is defo a chav, he had keane as his ringtone.

Whats this circulet thingy doodle?

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Clearly I have missed something (or a pertinent thread or two) here.
I resign.
What's with the sudden a*holes and chavs talk?
Is our 'boring but it turned into fun' thread being hijacked.

i get the sneaking impression you are still taking the piss. i try to change the conversation, as i thought the le creuset joke was getting so old it was growing mould. but never mind.

lem; whats wrong with daytime tv, is it chavvy? i dont get why you still think im a chav, no self respecting chav has heard of "keane" i think youll find chavs are into 50cent, that sort of music.

Sausages are full of holes...

earholes

eyeholes

and

arseholes



I still eat them though

Now we're getting there ladies. We've got LEM's dog shaking all over after eating the RR, and Lorayn's dh and his sausageballs.
Now that's a Friday night.
<looks at own dog and dh both slumped asleep on sofa. No chance..>

an underwater toaster????
WTF

Vikkin, ive had two, even an underwater one, the dog ate them

I love making sausage plait and toad in the hole, plus DP makes some pasta thing with sausagemeat balls, so we use quite a bit of it, Just wish it was nicer

But LEM then you'd only have to feed the rabbit...
It's all money innit

Vikkin, i went to an ann summers perty and i won slut of the night, i lost out on the lipstick buzzer though on a sucking pea through a straw competition with my equally slaggy mate. Of course that was all KBL - life before lucy Now i would be prudishly sitting on the corner of the sofa screwing my nose up, thinking, oooh you could catch your death in those undies.

Sausagemeat is horrid.
The problem is in the amount of rusk added (as well as all sorts of weirdy e-numbers and anti-blahblahs). A good sausage has a high meat content but TBH my kids hate sausages with a high meat content, they find them too chewy.

Ellbell, i would if they would let me have one on trial lol. But really, i could buy a rampant rabbit with that money

at uni, they sold a t shirt, i never got round to buying it, up to my eyes in fly food (god im so sad) it said: The more i study, the more i know, the more i know, the more i forget, the more i forget, the less i know, so why study!

Lorayn... If you can find a farm shop or butcher who makes their own sausages I bet they will sell you the 'innards' without the sausage skins. (Haven't tried this, but am willing to bet our farm shop would do it.)

LEsmum... If you don't cook much it might be worth forking out [ahem... no cookware pun intended] for the Dualit. You can't go wrong with toast, can you?

Just noticed the mention of Tupperware parties. I remember them!
What do you think of the sort of parties you get invited to now?
I went to a Virgin Vie one where we all had to paint our toenails together in some sort of group therapy thing. I didn't like that.
I went to an Ann Summers one, nuff said.
And I do remember a pottery party that was just dismal.

that about sums it up doesnt it, previous life sob, even THAT is more interesting than i am now. My dp cant wait to buy scalectrix, ive told him he has to wait until DD is a bit older!

Ha, yes scrabulous, I am so rubbish at it though!! I get long words that dont score or short words that dont fit!

TM - I agree with you, the more you know about someone, the more confused you can become.

People are often very complex and contradictory.

Vikkin, maybe you can help me with sausagemeat then, I can only ever seem to find one type of it wherever I go, and as I use tons of it, I want good stuff!!!
It always looks so horrid before I cook it.

Scrabulous???

YEah iom the same with the dualit and im a shit cook so cant be spending on the cookware either.

Talula - you watch homes under the hammer?? Thats, um, choke, daytime telly - next you will be telling me you watch jerry springer!"

Blimey, you just go off for a quick Scalextric and you come back to this. Chill, it's Friday night, it's been a blooming hard week...
The Tesco Finest stainless steel pans are lovely. They're still stainless. It's about £18 for a middle sized one. I have three. They were well worth the money.
However, I still have the very large saucepan my mum bought in about 1985 in Brixton market. It's still going strong.
Lucyellensmum - your previous life sounds very interesting. My dd may follow your career path, she has a strange legless collection of dead insects on the windowsill. My own previous life involved being very serious in Whitehall about the fat content of spreads, and the amount of meat in a sausage. Now I know the truth, the cheaper and nastier the sausage the more likely it is the child will eat it.

Oh gawd... did this get serious when I wasn't looking?

Toasters (though I do love my toast) are all singularly crap. They last about 5 minutes before breaking. Unless you buy a really expensive dualit one, but I've never managed to bring myself to spend that much on a toaster. (My Le Creuset was all given to me, btw, so no double standards re. pans/toasters!)

lucy; i love location location location. i also like homes under the hammer.

ha, ok lucyelensmum, I was kinda lost, wondering if you had missed a word or something, solitaire, hmmmm, might go play scrabble


talulasmum, tbh I have no problems bringing up my children, I think its mainly common sense and love. If I ever need any advice I will be sure to remember your offer.
Btw, Le Creuset isn't 'naff' it's rather bloody good.

lorayn; thats where your so wrong. the more information we have sometimes the more confused we become.

just a joke lorayn, lol, dont let tallulah grind you down. Meant in good humour. this is much better than playing spider solitaire isnt it

talulasmum on Fri 28-Sep-07 19:24:49
but you shouldnt have to read a book, or watch a tv programme. a mum living in an isolated farm house in scotland, with out a tv maybe, and no wh.smiths down the road, just gets on with it.


Well if she is there she probably gets her baby books from the mobile library, as she is probably a city girl "experiencing the good life type of lifestyle for real" and was sent there by phil and kirsty, as the air is so healthy to bring up her children. And posh girls dont do smiths, they do waterstones!!!

lucyellensmum I didnt understand 'dont take on so'
And re the woman who lives somewhere remote with no tv or books, she probably had a million times when she paniced and thoguhth 'ah, I cant do this' just like the rest of us, difference is we can find a book/tv programme/mumsnetter with experience to help us.

lorayn; thought it was an interesting topic as we're all parents, and maybe i could save you some time and money by telling you how to bring children up happy. but if your not into all those books, well done. if you'd rather keep talking about naff items for the kitchen, carry on.

Times never do change do they, here we are talking cookware, does anyone remember my toaster thread, probably not, i still dont have one, cant bring myself to spend the moeny, also cant bring myself to buy a cheap one! But i was just thinking that my mum was terribly exciting when she allowed me to go with her to a TUPERWARE party!

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lorayn, dont take on so - anyway, the theory was that in cave men days wasnt it the women who went out and hunted?

But anyway, ive never ever read a parenting book, i think they are responsible for a lot of unnecessary worry and self doubt.

But then i bet i'm the most boring person here - i have a phd in fly genetics and spent three years of my life counting flies and pulling their heads off!

but you shouldnt have to read a book, or watch a tv programme. a mum living in an isolated farm house in scotland, with out a tv maybe, and no wh.smiths down the road, just gets on with it.

Oh (and since we are talking 'what's for dinner') my caveman dh has made a hu-u-u-uge (Le Creuset) casserole dish full of bolognese sauce (some will be frozen) which we are about to eat. Yum!

This is how exciting I am... My (new) book is on sale today on Japanese Amazon (but oddly not yet available in the UK).

But anyway... let's talk Le Creuset... I always feel that after draining some veg and maybe a panful of pasta I've done the equivalent of a workout on one of those arm-muscle machines. So... yes, they cost a bomb but they save on gym membership!

See you lot are blanking me.
You've moved onto cavemen (well, not literally). I'm still on cookware.

We went to the chip shop and got saveloy, battered sausage, fish cake, chips and curry sauce for tea.
I'm pregnant though, it's allowed

I have fed the children to the dog. No, No, No, sorry I got carried away.
I have fed the children sensibly but I myself am now tucking into a plate of nachos with all the trimmings. It is Friday night after all. My Le Creuset remains spotless & shiny.
I am also listening to the velvet voiced Marc Cohn. Lovely..
But I do have to go and take part in the Friday night Scalextric tournament on the floor over there.
Back to bore you later. I also have some Tesco Finest saucepans I want to discuss.

Oh and I almost forgot, didnt cave men drag their women round by their hair
Is that what you want for talula?

yawn

Erm, talulasmum,
a)I've never bought a parenting book in my life.
and
b) you should look at how this place gets going on supernanny type shows, especially bringing up baby.and
c)If you can't make your mind up whether youre going to play nice or slag us off, how about not playing at all?

cave people had the experience of the whole community to call upon, unlike our increasingly isolated selves

actually it is all getting a bit boring, time to spice things up a bit. correct me if im wrong, but i bet you lot have bought every "parenting" book on the shelves. you probably watch all that supernanny, & "how to bring up baby" load of rubbish. im the thick one around here, but i never watch/read that rubbish. parenting should come naturally. did cave women have supernanny books? no of course not, they just got on with it.

My dd just made me a lovely drawing of a rainbow. She must feel like an orphan now that I have found MN!!
I did just ordered Dominio's (online) for the child, what else does she expect??

Seriously, I sent dh for Wagamama noodles and I am quite excited...I am starving and really couldn't be bothered to cook. I was when he actually agreed!!

Well, I am off to eat and maybe play a game of Cluedo Junior before bedtime. Who stole the chocolate cake?? Love it!!

does? or did I mean do?

odd

I thought Lakeland does cookware

Well cod, the title did warn you.
We are boring in this thread. We sitting around talking cookware and it is wonderful

<pins cod against wall>

Come on girls, I have her trapped...lets talk le creuset at her until she caves...

oh how boring

ive got a smoothie maker and a george foreman grilling maching. plus an aunt of mine had a bread maker once.

lol...it was like it when you got there...honest

im incredibly boring too. i kill interesting threads without even making one agrressive comment.

Neither did I, missus.

I can see that maybe some people on MN cannot appreciate our brand of immaturity.

DEAR MN GODS...I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT THREAD!!

Oh dear, I think it's going a bit pear shaped on the Dolly Parton thread.....

<Says waitin as if she is a Country music star!!>

Still waitin vikkin...

here mumsnet.com/Talk/1375/396798?stamp=070928175750

<boring lurker sidles in>
Where is the thread Sugarmatches? I thought of a really funny thing I could've put on it about Dolly Parton, but I can't find where to put it.
<now I've forgotten the really funny thing...> <boring lurker sidles off again>

oh god, thread got funny when i wasn't looking! Will now disappear inot the kitchen to commune with my pans

I am going to be really dull now...
LOVE my le creuset griddle. Dont like the frying pans/saucepans- prefer SKF- a little lighter and less likely to burn your food. They also go in the oven, including the frying pans. Only down side, they take a little longer to heat up.

haha, you better keep it up!!
Thing is I never look that far down the page!!
Hence I always post in AIBU

I am laughing so hard I really did almost wee myself.

She has balls, our doodles!!

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Yay, waits for doodledotoos new thread, and wonders if she will use a namechange.

Ooooh the excitement!!

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I think doodledotoo should do it.
Doodledootoo, I dare you!

oo op, I like your final sentence. Maybe you're not boring at all.

OOH, I am too scared...
Do it, seriously...do it!!!!!

Lol sugar, I think we should try it for an experiment

Doodle, I am the ultimate "thread killer" so don't worry your pretty little head.
We all suck a little bit some days.

TBH though, some of the more popular MNers post some right old tosh and get hundreds of replies. I could post a "my dd banged her head and now she thinks she is Dolly Parton...what should I do?" thread and I will get twelve responses!!

It is a crazy world!

But it is really easy to clean and food does not stick to it. It cooks food on the ridges and the heat rises up. It does make black marks on what you are cooking from the ridges, like any grill does.

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Apparently the grill thingy isnt non stick.

I am not sure how they do it tbh...magic???

Le Crueset is non stick, but it is not that teflon crap that you usually get.

sugarmatches, do you have the stuff that isnt non-stick???
Le Creuset say non stick isnt needed cos it just burns off and fucks up your food.

Umm, i am a bit scared too.

Cookware, shinyhappypeople

It's a saucepan is it??! Christ.. long may I remain UNknowledgeable..!

But I bought this in black and I love it. it looks so nice in our room. It was a bugger to put together though, I felt so bad for dh...I almost got up to help him

And what the bloody fuck IS a Le Crueset or whatever the bloody hell you mad wenches are banging on about further down!

No wonder I am worried about coming to the meet up! [scared emoticon]

I know what you mean about Ikea. Dh and I went at 10pm on a Monday last time and it was absolutely heaving!!

Ellbell is bloody NOT tedious.. she is one of the most interesting people I know!!

I wish my life was boring. It's not exciting either.. that is entirely the wrong word.. in case anyone's envious!

Ah mytwopenceworth, come on, do you think with a real life you would be so knowledgeable about saucepans????
It has it's pitfalls I agree, but socialising via the net I can look like sienna miller, sing like whitney houston, cook like nigella lawson and keep a house like anthea turner, all whilst eating big fat slices of jam on toast in my pjs with last nights make up still on. It's great

We got this and it has been the most used item in our kitchen. Seriously, we use it every night. You can fry in it and then put it in the oven. Also, get a grillit because it keeps the fat out of your fried foods.

.. on the other hand, I am extremely exciting.

It's just my life that's dull ..

I am unbelievably boring....let's face it, I was never going to be a wild ride since I spend much of my day chatting via a computer screen to people I've never met....screams No Life At All. <sob>

but i cant stand ikea, i hate it, i do, it brings me out in a rash - i hate the whole concept of having to effectively be my own warehouseperson. Spending hours trying to find something that inevitably comes in two boxes on separate ailes, then having to queue for AGES. The disinterested staff, the ludicruous delivery fees, the fact that i can't buy online, oh and that their stock checker is about two days behind. Oh and those poxy bloody meat balls, Yep - i'm itchy just at the thought of it - bluuuueeeghh

Talula, can a cadge a lift to ARGOS?

Lorayn, make sure you shop around a bit.
Debenhams sell it and they often have a sale. There are also some cheaper places on the internet.
They are really brilliant though and are so easy to clean.
Get them

I feel so MNish, I am on multiple sites, boden and lakeland LOL

don't bother with frying pans...to bloody heavy...casserole pans are fabulous and so are those 1 handled ones, imo...

Ha, sugarmatches, being pregnant we have saved a fortune on wine, might as well spend it wisely.

It's only 150 quid for a couple of pans

we bought our le cruiset in france, as it is cheaper there...obviously, lol...we got married in UK but had to go back to germany , and went by ferry and via france anywya...so, bought it from teh wedding money on our way home

Le Creuset pans are great for getting rid of bingo wings. Saves hours down the gym.

I had never heard of le creuset til today but DP agrees that they are great value so I have his credit card in hand
YES, I DO NEED ALL OF THOSE PANS AND DISHES.

Any more recc's before I go ahead and get these??

Btw, Ikea do a knock off version and it is a really pretty green colour.

I am going to admit that my dh has an aunt that gives us a piece every Christmas. We have bought a few things on our own, but there aint no way I am ever walking out of John Lewis £100 poorer and carrying a frying pan!!

I did splurge and buy a cute red heart shaped casserole dish one year for Valentines day, but I reasoned with myself that cooking a cheese souffle would be cheaper than going out.

oh talula, come off it, im as common as muck me, but even i walk around department stores looking at stuff i can't afford. Le crusuet are those hideously expensive saucepans in all colours that give you muscles like a weightlifter if you have them.

now seriously girls, i actually DO need new saucepans. I dont want non-stick. I like the look of le crusuet, but bugger me they are so HEAVY! Any thoughts?

sugarmatches; honest to god i really dont know what a le creuset is? is it something like a frying pan?

BOOOOORING!!!!!!!!!!! said in an immature teenage voice

No wonder you skydive Custardo, you won't be able to walk having done it 9 times a night .

I told dp about it earlier, he was sold when I told him about the lifetime guarantee
<grins smugly as she looks at the le creuset on amazon>

okay, what the f*ck are broing people???

Oh talulasmum, that was a joke and only made after a personal attack on me (by you).

I think it is great that you come on here and share your experiences with other mums. But if you are going to say rude things, don't expect people to just let you say whatever you want. Even broing people wont let you get away with that.

As far as I can see, it is all water under the bridge now anyway. We are all playing nice now and it feels bloodt brilliant!!

Might I just add that Le Creuset does not burn milk and if you get a milk pan it pours so easily into the glass.
Damn, can't even go five minutes without being dull.

lol...

I don't care neither...I mean, I don't care either...I think...where are the pedants when you need one

Dont be silly 3andnomore, no-one in the world is witty, except mumsnetters

custy you show off

At least you're able to come along and keep posting talulasmum, even if your threads did shake us out of our boredom a little. As for the thesaurus, didn't you get my online link? (btw thats a jokey wink, not a pisstake one)

talula don't let it get to you...people are only teasing now, I think
Anyway, I really think we had a lovely chat the other night...!

Oh, and I know I am a real bore...but I don't care neither...someone has got to be right? I mean, we just can't al be wiitty...and I think that is good so...because, well, it would be complete madness if everyone in the world was witty

i piy you all becuase by day i am a sky diver extroidinaire with the sas

and by night i play poker in vegas and have sex 9 times a night.

my original thread was meant as a bit of a joke, but turned out to me mn version of big brother. i really dont care if your boring, im boring, just in a more interesting way. to someone called cherrypie or something, i never once said i didnt like mn, in one of my posts i actually said it was brilliant, with lots of fantastic mums sharing experiences. i'll never be a hardcore mumsnetter, but id like to think i can pop in for a chat now & again ( once ive bought me thesaurus of course)

50% off Le Creuset on amazon.co.uk atm!

OH I am right at home on this thread. Snooooze. I love my le creuset (especially cooking casseroles in the huge one, feel like a witch). Dh and I have exceptionally normal jobs, dc (one of each of course) are perfectly lovely, balanced children. We have ups and downs. Lots of lovely friends. What more can I say. I like my quiet life but I find it interesting even if other people don't!

You can't be boring if you live in Windsor. (BIG assumption) It's posh there, don't you know?

I love my Le Creuset. Makes me feel like I have somehow arrived. Though I'm not sure where.

Surely someone's got to be the middle of the road?

HappyDaddy, we could celebrate.......

With a cup of tea, sugarmatches may even boil the water in her non-stained Le Creuset pans for us

I'm actually much more interesting in rl than on here

Am I being unreasonable for pronouncing the OP as a blatant liar!!! (In a good way) She's not boring she's actually a spunky little minx (and good on her too!)

I'm so boring that I have no clue what a Le Creuset is.

Boring is great, we'd celebrate it if we weren't so...boring.

No such thing as a boring person, sugar! I have never yet met a boring person. You might have to dig a bit deeper but there will always be something interesting about them. If someone dismisses another person as boring then they have something seriously lacking in their own personality.

I'm boring too apparentley I'm that boring I should be classed as a hermit

I am also classed as a snob even though I live in a council house on a rough estate
The reasons why

1) I except my children not to swear or ride on the back of a quad from the age of 3

2) I cook

3) I refuse to go to bingo

Apparentley that qualifies me as a snobby hermit!!!

I am quite boring but have a busy life. Personally i dont do much out of the ordinary, but have had very hard times, and a difficult life in general.

I agree sugarmatches, people boring, desperate or needy or stressed should be able to post or start threads on whatever they feel they want or need to.

There are choices for the rest of us, to post or not to post or to open or not to open specific threads. I avoid style and beauty and poss religious threads. But love to read and join most other topics.

Fimbo, you are most definitely not boring, you are the only thing that makes my DS want to wear his stripy socks, so he can be just like you!

I am so boring, I kill every thread I am on [don't care, will continue being boring emoticon]

It is grim for children as they grow up to have parents who are not boring, who think they are oh so cool and down with the kids. It's our duty to be boring so that when we have teenagers they can feel cooler than us.

I like MN because I can feel free to air a boring question (or indeed reply) - and if there is someone out there who is challenging the sanctity of MN's boring department (haven't been keeping up) then I agree, bolleaux to them.

Does Le Creuset burn milk??
My saucepans do, anyone would think it was my fault the milk stuck to the pan after breakfast every morning.

PMSL at you lot being competitively boring

I need a link to the Fenwicks Car Park Argument Thread please {grin}

I am definitely more boring than you. I always seem to be posting replies on the money/legal bit, re capital gains tax, credit cards etc.

However, I may be boring, but I am actually quite happy and content wtih myself - OK my life may be a bit too boring right now due to being stuck in the house too much with a 3 year old but this is just how it is right now. I always think I should be going to the pub/pop concerts etc., but then think actually I don't like doing that!

I have no idea what the other thread was about but am PMSL at the bodily fluids and sequinned thongs!

So...what people do you regard as interesting? I don't know that many people that do anything other than boring stuff. Majority of people get up, got to work, come home, go to bed THATS IT - I'm probably more boring than you as it turns out!

phew, you have all put my mind to rest, now I can go to sleep without worrying about my pots

if the arse of the pot isnt a tiny bit on the burnt looking side your not using it right!

unstained cookware means you actually eat ready meals and just have that stuff for show.

Stains don't bother me. The bit where I've managed to burn the wood on the handle so it's now a wee bit loose bothers me though, as the pans are so heavy that I'm scared the handle might eventually come off. Oooh, the angst, the angst. [Middle-class emoticon]

yes but the stains don't really affect the quality of the food you cook in the le creuset (have I put anyone to sleep yet?) do they?

is it that the stain bothers the middle class psyche, is it an aesthetic issue?

Indeed, Kristina!

30 degrees works

except on my DDs knickers. I think I might start a thread on 'the understains' as the old advert put it.

Its MUMS net.

part of job description is to deal with boring stuff. cleaning loos. laundry.

part of it is to be bored out of mind (oh no not that pretend game again DD....)

I have a very interesting job but just now have to write documentation of stuff I didnt develop and that is bloody boring.

your boring post is less boring than some of that. Truly.

ellbell - as my granny used to say

"husbands come and go but a good set of saucepans will last you a lifetime"

LOL at "but I buy mine from M&S and they are machine washable at 40 degrees."

Now, does 40 degrees work????

Ah, sugarmatches, I salvaged my Le Creuset from the wreckage of my first marriage. I love those pots still and they are as good as they day they arrived in my life (if slightly stained). The same cannot be said of my first dh. Le Creuset definitely out-lasted him.

another bore here!!

Aefondkiss, apparently you don't! But you can have i repainted.
LC has a *lifetime guarantee* people, ffs why buy anything else?

Yeah, how do you?

(also veeeeeeery dull)

<waves at Fletch>

.....so how do you get stains out of your le creuset?

I put people to sleep

Don't know the thread of which you speak

<waves to Starry>

I dont. My pots are a boring collection of some Argos, and some Ikea. Not even my pots can aspire to be middle class.

I am incredibly tedious. (And I have stained Le Creuset...)

I am as boring as they come. Totally

I started this because it was me arguing in the Waitrose (actually Fenwicks) car park mentioned in another thread.
I was going to hang my head in shame, but decided not tonight, baby!

Hands up, I am a boring person.
My life is a bit dull and I don't really do many interesting things on a daily basis. My dh is nice and normal, my dc are lovely and have no health problems and my family are on the right side of crazy. We have a boring car, go on boring holidays and have boring friends (whom I love, btw!).

So what??

If I want to post a thread asking how to get stains out of my Le Creuset, I am bl**dy well going to do it no matter what anyone says. If I had a more interesting life then I might ask advice on getting bodily fluids out of sequins thongs, but I buy mine from M&S and they are machine washable at 40 degrees.

I know that there are so many people on MN who have really difficult things to overcome and who are still nice, friendly and helpful to us boring posters. That is how it should be I think. And F*ck you if you don't agree