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How long would you wait to be reimbursed for vets fees?

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Babyblade · 06/12/2016 09:15

Over the last couple of years we've looked after guinea pigs for a "friend" while she's been away working in Europe - it's contract work and we've had them for up to 8 weeks at a time. To begin with there were 3 guinea pigs, but then it was just 2.

We looked after the 2 guinea pigs during September. During that period one of the guinea pigs became unwell, so we took them both to the vet but the unwell guinea pig passed away. Our "friend" reimbursed us within a week for the fees we incurred, which was fine.

She then asked us to look after the remaining GP again in October. The return date was unclear, but possibly up to 3 weeks. She was at pains to emphasise that the one remaining Guinea Pig would need extra attention because his friend had passed away and he might be stressed/lonely.

After 2 weeks of eating happily, the Guinea Pig stopped eating. In order to avoid a repeat of the previous fatality, we whisked him to the vet for a check-up. The vet gave him a clean bill of health, and the following day he was back to his normal self and eating happily. The whole event was incredibly stressful.

In the week that followed I finally had a text from the "friend" who informed me that her contract in Rome was being extended for another 4 weeks - was that OK? By this point I'd had enough - the Guinea Pig was living outside in (sometimes) sub-zero temperatures, it was stressful for me and unfair on the animal (he was used to living indoors) so I asked her to make other arrangements.

Finally, after a lot of fussing about and her calling in favours from other friends, the little beast was collected. I sent her an email requesting reimbursement of the vet fees on the 20th Nov ... and I waited. I sent a reminder on the 4th Dec ... and I waited.

Am I being unreasonable to expect payment within 2 weeks? ... or if nothing else, at least an acknowledgement that she's going to pay me back?

Further frustration is that although she provided initial bedding and dry food, the fresh leaves and carrots were always at my cost. I've not once been paid back for these costs in the 2 years we've been looking after her animals ... I feel like a mug Angry

WWYD?

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OhSuckItUpDucky · 06/12/2016 09:20

Not a mug , just kind
I'd text her stating that I've been waiting since X date , sent her various texts on X dates and need the money by X date
Be blunt , she's trying to brazen it out

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Babyblade · 06/12/2016 10:25

OK - so I've now texted her. Here's the conversation ...

ME: Hi D, I trust you're well. I sent you emails on Sunday 20th Nov and again 4th Dec but I've not heard back from you. Please can you reply and let me know when I might expect to be reimbursed for Marlowe's vet fees. He was taken to the vets in good faith as we were genuinely concerned about his well-being. It is not fair that you sent to be withholding payment. If you could please update me on your plans it would be much appreciated. K

D: Hi K, I've not checked my email yet. A bit tired with travelling, work, find another carer for Marlowe, my Dad's cancer, get the locks at my house changed, ensure Northern Chris gets the key, arrange for heating to be sorted etc., etc., it's on my list of things to do. D

ME: OK, but you sent out your Commonwealth email on the 29th Nov, so have clearly had access to the account during that time. As an IT professional & contractor who (I imagine) relies in email as a means of communication to secure future work, your excuse doesn't really make much sense. I realise that you've got a lot going on, but I've waited for more than 2 weeks for a reply, I'm not being unreasonable. I'm not even requesting immediate payment, I just want some kind of acknowledgement and ETA for payment.

D: Then sms me like you have. I've noted you want reimbursement. I lately stay away from logging into email given some of the aggravating emails I receive from some people, and yes, as an IT professional I receive on average 70-80 emails per day.

So - how would you reply to that? I can't think on anything that's vaguely polite ...

(For info - she likes to send out lengthy round-robin type emails to her "friends" to keep us updated on her travels and political views (yawn)... the Commonwealth email referred to on the 19th Nov, was one of such emails)

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lunchboxtroubles · 06/12/2016 10:27

Dear X, I'm afraid I can no longer look after your guinea pig. Please find someone else to come and get him with one week. Yours, ex friend.

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JE678 · 06/12/2016 10:29

Just let it go, is it worth the aggro? She has said she'll reimburse. If she doesn't you can take it up again but a game of passive aggressive text ping pong won't help anyone.

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MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 06/12/2016 10:32

I'd leave it for a bit. I'm afraid I don't think you've handed it well. The tone of your messages is accusatory and quite rude.

If you had been less aggressive that might have been helpful. I'm not saying you should be a mug but I don't think stroppy emails helps anyone.

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TwoGunslingers · 06/12/2016 10:41

Agree with PP your emails were a bit inflammatory and possibly rude. When looking after a friends dog I once had to go to the vet, who put the charge on my friends account and settled it directly with them when they got home. How much are we talking about for a check up on a GPig?

How much is a bag of carrots? £1? You sound like you resent doing this favour for your friend, so best all round if you don't look after them again.

I feel a little sorry for your friend to be honest Sad

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Patriciathestripper1 · 06/12/2016 10:43

You are no longer useful to her so you are no longer on her radar, that's why she hasn't reimbursed you.
I had friend like that and we used to look after her dog same story really just bigger animal. It's very stressful the whole responsibility of it actually,and it was as though it was 'expected' that we would keep dog as long as she wanted.
id send polite txt and an email just say ok thanks for you last email, I shall expect reimbursement by ........ and give her a date a couple of weeks from now. Bet she paid people who changed her locks???

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Babyblade · 06/12/2016 10:43

Fair enuf ... I'll leave it be for a while and shut up. Seems that my request is reasonable, but my tone less so.

This person just winds me up and seems to lie to me, hence my barely polite tone.

For example - She'd known on the 11th Nov that her contract was going to be extended (said so in a Facebook update), but then didn't contact me until the 17th, at which point she said she'd "only just" found out ... then again during this conversation she said that she'd not been onto her email, when she'd managed to send a lengthy round-robin email out.

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FeliciaJollygoodfellow · 06/12/2016 10:46

Disagree with Moving. I don't think it's in any way rude to ask when it's reasonable to expect payment, but the response about 'oh poor me, I'm so busy' bollocks seems like it's intended to point out that OP is clearly at the bottom of the list when it comes to consideration. It takes what, 5 minutes to send an online payment? Maybe ten to call your bank and do it?

Why does she even have pets if she's not even looking after them for half the year? She's taking the piss and she knows it, she also knows she's reached the end of her goodwill with you and now she's got all defensive.

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Babyblade · 06/12/2016 10:48

Thankfully it's just £30 - no a big deal.

Patricia - I think you've got it nailed. I'm no longer useful so I'm not a priority.

And OK - a bag of carrots is only £1.00, and a few salad/spinach leaves adds up to about £5.00 per week. None of it will break the bank, which is why I've not asked to be paid back but I do resent people taking advantage. Why should I be out of pocket when I'm doing her a favour?

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FeliciaJollygoodfellow · 06/12/2016 10:49

'How much is a bag of carrots'

Well, one bag of carrots might be £1. Ten bags would £10, plus cost of hay (I dunno, bedding stuff!) plus all the other stuff guineas like. Why should OP pick up the cost when she's clearly saving her friend a shed load in travel and animal passport costs, or kennels - if such things even exist for small animals? Or does generosity and goodwill only go one way?

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Patriciathestripper1 · 06/12/2016 10:49

two why should op pay for and look after someone else's pet who is away for weeks on end?
If she wanted the hassle of pets she would have her own. Why should she bear the responsibility of soneone else's sick animals?
Where I live vet checks have all the same standard charge wether it's a stick insect or a pony. That's not the point if someone is put on enough they will eventually become resentful. Don't have pets if you are not around to look after them.

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TwoGunslingers · 06/12/2016 10:50

She has paid you for the fees before so you had no reason to assume she wouldn't again. She's peeved that you said you'd look after her animals and then changed your mind and left her to sort out their care remotely. Unless you're struggling for the money or it's a massive amount (which I can't imagine it is) I probably wouldn't have bothered to ask about it at all given that she clearly has bigger things to worry about.

Maybe you could send a little apology message if you want to preserve this "friendship" - "sorry if you thought my messages were a bit snippy, I have a lot on, and coming up to Christmas I could use the money. I know you have bigger things on your mind and hope you're ok"

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Babyblade · 06/12/2016 10:52

Thanks Felicia ... my original emails (not posted here) were perfectly pleasant. It was only in these txt messages that I got a bit more stroppy.

It has baffled me for a long time as to why she has pets - it's bonkers ... and so is she! I'm just grateful that she's got Guinea Pigs and not something larger.

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TwoGunslingers · 06/12/2016 10:53

...no one told her she had to look after them. Presumably she volunteered to do it. I don't understand why people get so precious about these things.

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ChicRock · 06/12/2016 10:53

She's a twat.

I'd text her "my bank account details are xxx xxx, I will require the payment of £x by x date".

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YelloDraw · 06/12/2016 11:00

Maybe you could send a little apology message if you want to preserve this "friendship

Ha ha ha - are you the OPs friend??

OP has done nothing wrong. She agreed to look after the animals as a temporary thing!!! And is out of pocket in doing so.

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Babyblade · 06/12/2016 11:02

TBH, I think this friendship is past saving.

£30 isn't a great amount but I'd rather spend that on my DD for Christmas rather than have it loitering in her bank account.

I was concerned that she wouldn't pay because now I'm no longer useful to her, she's got no motivation for keeping me on side.

When she delivered the Guinea Pig for his final stay she was vague about how long it would be for- in hindsight, perhaps she was trying to avoid giving me a firm date. When asked a direct question she said it would be either the 12th or 19th Nov ... she only contacted me on the 17th Nov when she wanted to extend the stay. I'd had no other contact from her to find out how he was doing up until that point.

He finally left us on the 20th Nov - I didn't let her down - I looked after him for as long as I had said I would but said no when she wanted to extend the stay until the 15th Dec ...

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TwoGunslingers · 06/12/2016 11:03

Fair enough. I think if my friend was dealing with so much stuff I would endeavour to find some compassion. But obviously we all have our own ideas of friendship.

I hope things resolve for you OP Flowers

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Katy07 · 06/12/2016 11:07

She's peeved that you said you'd look after her animals and then changed your mind and left her to sort out their care remotely
Er no, she'd looked after GP for the time she'd agreed, the friend (I use the term loosely) then extended that by 4 weeks, so more than doubling the period of care.
And the first text wasn't that bad. The second, well maybe but then the friend had come out with a list of excuses - NO apology.
Sorry, I think another text with bank details and amount and a due date is perfectly reasonable.

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Babyblade · 06/12/2016 11:10

Gunslingers ... 2 years ago when this arrangement started, I admit that I "volunteered" to look after the animals - my DD wanted a rabbit/guinea pig, so it gave her the opportunity to experience animal care without buying one of our own. After 2 weeks DD realised that she didn't like cleaning them out - during that period we had them for 8 weeks.

Since then, "friend" has kinda assumed that I'll look after them, which was generally OK.

After the death of the companion Guinea Pig during the penultimate stay, I said that I would only look after the remaining Guinea Pig if there was no-one else ... I had intended to say a firm "no" if asked again, but she then bypassed that by asking to extend the final stay.

I didn't want to drop her in it, but neither did I want the arrangement to continue.

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user1477282676 · 06/12/2016 11:11

I sympathise as I've also done it...I cared for my brother's crazed dog for 8 weeks and he never bought us so much as a bag of dog food or said thank you! It's annoying...people get spoiled when you do too much for them.

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Katy07 · 06/12/2016 11:12

Dealing with so much stuff?! She's a bit tired with travelling?!!! Grin Yes it must be exhausting taking advantage of a friend. Yes, her dad has cancer - but it's not stopped her having an extra month in Rome has it? And she has no idea what OP has going on. She's taking the piss and the OP is better off without her "friendship".

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ChicRock · 06/12/2016 11:15

I think if my friend was dealing with so much stuff I would endeavour to find some compassion.

What - "dealing with stuff" like composing a round robin email pontificating about her views on the commonwealth? Only twats do that Grin

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Babyblade · 06/12/2016 11:22

Katy07 - thank you! Smile

The lack of apology is certainly an issue. I've had a couple of boxes of chocolates (last year) when looking after them, but nothing recently.

She barely tolerates her parents, so contracting in Rome (before that Switzerland and Germany) suits her just fine.

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