To think Ivonka Trumps Women Who Work is insincere

(27 Posts)
jdoe8 Sat 12-Nov-16 12:52:05

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWkFPvX3tAI

She doesn't live in the real world, works for her dad that will never sack her and has mountains of money for help.

In the real world you have to deal with reapplying for your job else your unemployed, issues with tax credits and the headaches these cause, having to move away from all your family and friends as house prices are too expensive where you were born and raised. I could go on!

backupbackup Sat 12-Nov-16 13:10:36

Switched off at "mind expanding and all consuming"

Fuck of Ivanka.

backupbackup Sat 12-Nov-16 13:10:45

*off

jdoe8 Sat 12-Nov-16 15:24:07

That is the highlight of the clip!

earlyrise Sat 12-Nov-16 18:14:18

She's been working hard to raise awareness of the appalling maternity leave in the US. Together with her dad I think they've even worked out how to fund an extension to the current period, which is just 12 weeks. Imagine they manage get an amendment passed. I don't care if she's annoying.

Auit Sat 12-Nov-16 18:19:42

Wow jdoe another of your threads hmm

Hows the funding poor poor Hillary going?

PigletWasPoohsFriend Sat 12-Nov-16 18:25:13

jode how much of 'living in the real world' do you think Chelsea Clinton has to deal with?

TSSDNCOP Sat 12-Nov-16 18:47:00

Tell you what if she can do something to improve the appalling maternity leave in the US, they'll be throwing her a parade.

Was that on Hillary's manifesto?

CeCeBloomer Sat 12-Nov-16 19:51:30

She always comes accross really well in interviews etc

minifingerz Sat 12-Nov-16 20:12:58

She's being given a job in her father's administration on the panel selecting those applying for positions within the new government.

So are two of her brothers.

Her qualification for this job is working for her father, being a model, and having a jewellery business which manufactured most of its products outside of the USA (presumably to maximise the profits she needed to make as the child of a billionaire).

The new political dynasty. Jobs for the family.

It's like North Korea.

Arkhamasylumbertowardsthegrave Sat 12-Nov-16 20:18:12

Why pick on her, when two of Trump's sons have also been given jobs?

minifingerz Sat 12-Nov-16 20:19:44

It must be so hard to be a full time working mother like Ivanka who has a nanny, a cleaner, a cook, a personal shopper, top notch private health care, children at private schools, tutors, a personal stylist, the most expensive education money could buy, regular foreign holidays, private air travel, a personal trainer, multiple homes all over the world, no mortgage.

How does she do it!

hmm

annandale Sat 12-Nov-16 20:20:44

I don't want a man of Donald Trump's thin skin getting paranoid and isolated in the White House, so the presence of people he presumably trusts in the team is one factor that could prevent Trumpageddon.

Agree too that if they can make mandatory paid family leave happen in the US, they've done something really great.

peachesandcreamdream Sat 12-Nov-16 20:23:31

It's the patronising tone of the video

minifingerz Sat 12-Nov-16 20:23:39

"Why pick on her, when two of Trump's sons have also been given jobs?"

Absolutely.

Let NO ONE accuse Trump of trying to influence the public into thinking that he's not a misogynist windbag by getting his publicists to vomit out hundreds of stories about his clever and beautiful daughter working her exquisitely manicured fingers to the bone for her family and also serving the nation by taking up a government post.

minifingerz Sat 12-Nov-16 20:25:02

"Agree too that if they can make mandatory paid family leave happen in the US"

I think he wants to reduce the burden of legislation on industry not increase it.

MissMargie Sat 12-Nov-16 20:30:45

Work conditions in the US are pretty ruthless.
Hardly any leave, long days. I knew a lady who took a new job as an admin assistant - new job so she got 3 days leave a year, this was someone with 3 children.
Minimal conditions are possibly due to immigrants accepting worse conditions and lowering the stakes.

Amalfimamma Sat 12-Nov-16 20:33:07

jdoe8 from your previous posts and comments I personally think it's a bit rich that you talk about living in the real world because you clearly don't......

minifingerz Sat 12-Nov-16 20:45:50

"Minimal conditions are possibly due to immigrants accepting worse conditions and lowering the stakes"

Yes, blame immigrants rather than greedy employers and a lack of legislation protecting workers rights.

prettyusefulsometimes Sat 12-Nov-16 20:46:27

In 2004 DT said about maternity leave (on camera), pregnancy is "a wonderful thing for the woman, a wonderful thing for the husband, it's certainly an inconvenience for the business. And whether people want to say that or not, the fact is it is an inconvenience for a person that is running a business. "

Note the classic Trump gaslighting of 'hey, it's other people saying this not me!'
The DT camp were only looking into whether 6 weeks maternity leave was feasible, no paternity leave and it was unclear whether same-sex couples would be included.

Hilary Clinton's campaign was promising to work towards 12 weeks of paid leave regardless of gender and whether the child was adopted or biological.

Ivanka went back to working for her father less than two weeks after giving birth to her last child, and allegedly expected her executive employees to do the same.

Her clothing line and that of her father's is produced in China, Vietnam etc.

Believeitornot Sat 12-Nov-16 20:49:36

Yes, blame immigrants rather than greedy employers and a lack of legislation protecting workers rights

^this a million times

Pretty ironic that the EU is what has given us our superior (to the US) worker rights.

GingerIvy Sat 12-Nov-16 20:51:03

Goodness, the way people go on, you'd think she was the first person to ever benefit from having a wealthy parent. hmm

<yawn>

minifingerz Sat 12-Nov-16 20:57:27

"Goodness, the way people go on, you'd think she was the first person to ever benefit from having a wealthy parent."

It's true that lots of leaders come from insanely wealthy families.

It's why so many of them are fucking arseholes who have no understanding of the lives of 99% of the population who they're supposed to be serving.

MissMargie Sun 13-Nov-16 08:40:31

I didn't blame the immigrants I explained why the nasty employers are able to behave the way they do. Why let common sense get in the way of a left wing rant.
It's the way the US became the richest country in the world - endless hard working immigrants. I'm not just talking about Latinos picking fruit - the whole economy from the gold rush on was based on endless immigrants. Now it depends on highly educated immigrants to run the computing industry.

harshbuttrue1980 Sun 13-Nov-16 13:20:20

I quite like Ivanka. I read her book a few years ago (the first one, she also has a new one coming out), and she was very honest about the fact that she had a leg up from her Dad, but also made the point that he wouldn't have let her have such a senior position if she hadn't been good. Her dad gave her a flat, but she had to pay a mortgage on it, and she is proud that she never missed a payment.

Wealthy people are always going to use their connections - its not fair in a way, but impossible to overcome. I think women can't win - someone like Paris Hilton chooses to float around being a party girl, and she's accused of being lazy. Ivanka Trump chooses to work, and her achievements are put down because of who her dad is. I was born on a council estate and will never have those advantages, but they didn't choose to be born into wealth any more than I chose to be born into a hard-up family. I'm glad that Ivanka is working rather than blowing her dad's money on drugs and partying. Wherever people start from, they should work hard.

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