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To ask for help with DS maths homework

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Mumski45 · 15/10/2016 19:59

Even though I have a maths degree!
He is 10 and in year 6. I can find a 'cryptarithm solver' using google but need to explain strategy to him so that doesn't help!

To ask for help with DS maths homework
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DixieWishbone · 15/10/2016 20:05

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Mumski45 · 15/10/2016 20:09

Thanks Dixie. I tried simultaneous equations but had too many variables. I'm also trying to think like a 10/11 year old.

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IScreamYouScream · 15/10/2016 20:10

Surely not many 10 year olds would have a change of solving that? It's melting my brain a bit.

NothingIsOK · 15/10/2016 20:11

Careful Dixie, they are both subtractions.

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Rachie1986 · 15/10/2016 20:14

Very hard - way too hard for yr 6 I would think. Secondary maths here.

I think G = 2J.. but can't remember where I got that from!

JoJoSM2 · 15/10/2016 20:18

The way I'd go about it is to order them from the greatest to the smallest. We know g=0, e is greater then c or I ( c+I=e) and just slot the other letters in one by one until you have all of them in order. Then you'll know what's what.

JoJoSM2 · 15/10/2016 20:19

Just be careful about anything being carried over. I don't think the maths is tricky here at all - it's more of an intelligence question.

Mumski45 · 15/10/2016 20:19

I am assuming that there is a 'key' to unlocking it.
Not sure if both should be solved together or not.
In addition to the g=2j I got that A-1=F

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ErrolTheDragon · 15/10/2016 20:25

And so j=1,2,3 or 4

Does j=i+1 (in which case j = 2,3 or 4 and g = 4,6 or 8)

Was you ds given no clue how to solve this? Feel like there must be some trick we're missing.

Dilligufdarling · 15/10/2016 20:26

J is greater than I so can't be 1.
So that counts 2 out for G as well

Dilligufdarling · 15/10/2016 20:26

Cross post!

ErrolTheDragon · 15/10/2016 20:27

Scrap most of that, i could be 0Confused

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ErrolTheDragon · 15/10/2016 20:28

Though if i was 0 they'd have left it blank so forget that...Grin

NothingIsOK · 15/10/2016 20:28

Not necessarily.

If GJ then G=2J

Anyway, it's a horrible exercise, with limited merit as a homework piece. Possibly useful as a class based discussion piece along the lines of "how on earth would you approach this?"

My starting point would be eliminating all the things that can't be zero due to their positions in the values, so J A C F and I

Then deduce A-1=F and J-1=I

Then I'd probably either lose the will to live, or make the deeply clever move of re-writing them as additions to see where that got me

FGDCI
FGHC
---
ABCDE

and

IFGHJ
CDGJ
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JGAEG

Then I'd go and annoy the maths teacher by asking what the intended learning outcome of this annoying shit is exactly?

Starlight2345 · 15/10/2016 20:29

If he is year 6..Not been taught it in school...Send a note he tried didn't know how to do it.

I learned my lesson trying to teach my DS how to do fractions...

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NothingIsOK · 15/10/2016 20:30

Careful alignment of place values lost in the additions above, but hopefully the idea is apparent.

Anyway, is bollecks, and I wouldn't bother my arse doing it.

BishopBrennansArse · 15/10/2016 20:30

How the effing Jeff?

MothertotheLordsofmisrule · 15/10/2016 20:36

It's keeping dh nicely occupied.Grin

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